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  • Hi, I have an idea. Go FUCK YOURSELF. Presentation. Do I want a presentation? No, I want fucking mines of moria from goddamn fucking movie. Nothing else. Not an interpretation. Not your stupid fucking presentation. I want the movie, and ALL I SEE IS PRESENTATION [insert number]. I don't care what your presentation is. GO FUCK YOURSELF. YOU WILL NEVER AMOUNT TO ANYTHING ANYWAY. FUCKTARD.

  • @CthulhuMessiah stfu noob

  • does anyone know what the 'one ring" looks like in the collectors edition?...im goin to buy it this weekend but im really anxious and cant wait i just want to see it..if anyone has any video or pictures showing it id like to see...plus you get that kick ass cloth map and poster of moria...freakin sweet!

  • lotstactor1988 i play wow for 2 years now i play lotr shot up it will never bee a clone of wow and it isn't

  • will we still need to buy lotro shadows of angmar gamecards to mines of moria

  • yes,there is no mines of moria gamecard,so you'll pay as usual,sorry for being late.

  • can't wait

  • lotr is the best mmorpg game since AC2 fallen kings /moose

  • LOTRO FTW BEST MMORPG EVER

  • Also to an ealier comment about WoW vs LotRO PvP...ARE YOU HIGH? dude wow pvp its just random killing, no stradegy, people just run into battle and dont even give a shit about whos on their side. On the other hand, LotRO has 3 Castles , a mine and a lumber camp up for grabs in the war. there is much stratedgy in it (even though almost all of the raid leaders say "fall back" and 1 VS are raid!! RUN!"half the time) it still a very fun look at mmo pvp. Hell they even have quests inside the PvP!!

  • So LotRO is like how blizzard took EQ and made WoW but instead Turbine took WoW and made it better, into LotRO, The only reason WoW has so many players is its crappy graphics quality...you can play it on a computer made before 2000. Also ive recently gone on wow and checked out if its improved , as a former player it hasnt, anyways no one i met had even heard of LotRO. If turbine kicked up its marketing it would be a threat to WoW. And finaly there are just loyal fanboys of blizzard.

  • when will the expansion will be released?

  • this will be a great expansion. really looking forward to it. i have no idea why some WoW players need to feel empowered by the mass of people that plays along with them. just because a game isn't selling millions it can still be a successful game and lotro is not doing bad at all. otherwise they wouldn't be putting out free new content every two months - costs some to do this after all eh?

    it's a thing with our society i think...quantity over quality...

  • ummm, ok wtf? people fighting in comments about mmo's? who the hell cares? they're games that u play 4 fun, fanboys. if u aren't making any bread off either of these games, then y bother bickering about whose better?

  • the least players that play this game the better in my opinion, I enjoy the egame with the amount of players it has, you can't go 2 feet without seeing someone in WoW I'd rather it not like that in Lotro

  • pvp is better on wow thats all. lotro beats wow in pve 1000 fold

  • And let me add....MMO Of The Year!!

  • not yet thx but beleive me when i say that they are HARD at work in making it happen right now its just eriador their adding the rest of the misty mountains and taking us out of eriador next what i hope to see is the east of the misty mountains and then gondor and rohan and then a climactic ending where they let players into mordor but thats not for a VERY long time

  • In the original LoTRO can you travel outisde of Eriador? like could i go to Gondor, or Rohan?

  • im sure they will expand the game , i hear by 2012 they will have made the ful middle earth

  • year 2013

  • When can we expect to see Arda completed?

  • Hdro rockzzz and Mines of Moria will own all!

  • i like the rohan places more

    i like Helms deeps and it will be cool if that was a raid of instats

  • THIS GAME OWNZ :D

  • OH I CANT WAIT FOR THE ELF PLACE!

  • Hehe ^^

  • one thing i dont get tho! how the hell r we suposed t kill a Balrog if even Gandalf the white, the greatest wizard! conquorer of Saruman, could not! -.-

  • um he did

  • Note that only Gandalf was fighting Balrog but with a fellowship you can overcome the shadow

  • he did kill the balrog

  • He did, there was nearly 4 pages in the book talking about it, and anyways Rift balrog isnt the same as Moria one, and on top of that you have an elf with you who deafeated him before (even thought she is a bother during the raid)

  • OMFG i so get the shivers when i check that video o.O aaaaa cant wait! =O

  • lol bloody same

  • OMFG i cant wait for Mines Of Moria!!!! im a noob but im a level 10 elven champion on brandywine im trying to level fast...so if anyone can help me add me!! and omg BALROG!!

  • the balrog is alredy avalable to kill in the rift lol

  • my heart pulse is 10 times higher the usoal when i hear this o.O i cant wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Turbine i love ya all!!!

    /not gay like but huge LOVE!!

    ur more then gods to me xD

    hurry hurry hurry xD or ull have a dead teenages on consience :P (joke) :P

  • well lotro its going to be the second-world best rpg.the first 1 as we all know will be age of conan:p.But both games are good and whatever you prefer.but also both games have 1 drawback.you need a very good pc to play them sth that many people cannot afford:P.

  • I think you mean Lotro will be the third biggest MMO then if you think AoC will out sell it?

    WoW is number 1 atm, and will stay number for two reasons.

    1.) It already has a huge 12 million player fan base.

    2.) Like you said, the draw back to Lotro and AoC is that you need great computers, WoW doesnt require an amazing computer.

    I play Lotro mostly, WoW about 2 days a week. Won't even bother checking out AoC. But Warhammer online I will get, I hope that out does WoW :)

  • 7.5, My friend Mike Venessa was forced to put that we had (When I mean we i mean Blizzard) 10 million, the truth is, we have 7.5.

  • It's very clear you don't work for Blizzard, or you would not be giving the game you work for a bad name.

    You friend "Mike Venessa" does not even decide what get's put up on the site, he has a part in the decision but so do a lot of other people.

    It's illegal for Blizzard to lie about the number of subscribers, if it wasn't then asda could put on there site's or adverts "Asda cheapest Store in the World" except it can't because it's not. If it did put that then they would be sued.

  • Well, when I mean forced I mean he would lose his job... Not torturing him... He doesn't own the website! He's part of a division where they are told what to put on the website... His only freedom was to design the website! The company, not the WHOLE company but the part that owns WoW, tells him what to put on the website. And if it's illegal then is it illegal to lie about your age on T.V.? The ONLY thing that's illegal is to say that another company sucks without a reason...

  • Like saying the Taco Bell causes cancer, that's illegal but you can lie and say that Blizzard has 10 million... And even if it was illegal, they could put in these fake subcribers which we haven't... So is ASDA puts Cheapest store in the world, so WHAT? The ONLY thing you can be punished by the law is if you mislead other customers like saying something is one dollar and it turns out it's 100 bucks... Anything misleading is against the law... Are YOU mislead that we only have 7.5 million people?

  • When Blizzard says they have 12 million subscribers they are in fact making other company's look bad, they are telling people they are the best, otherwise they would not have the ammount of subscribers they have.

    You don't work for Blizzard, a Blizzard employee would not bad mouth the company they work for. Well, not on youtube anyway for a start, espcecially on another MMO video.

    Your a Lotro fan boy who can't stand the fact that WoW is and will be forever bigger than Lotro.

    Kkthnxbb.

  • Yes, if they say that! But there has been NO lawsuit against WoW except by the fact when we copied the races off of Warhammer. We won btw. Anyways, are you mislead that we have 7.5million subscribers and we are saying we have 12 million??? I bet not... BEcause if you were, then you could sue us, but why would you sue us if you only get to play with a limtied amount of people on a server? So you sir don't know the law and if any oned sued they WILL lose because they are not mislead...

  • You wouldn't know that we have only 7.5 million people because a server doesn't allow 7.5 million people to play on one server! So it is impossible to be mislead! NOw if there were no servers that would be a problem! So you need to just learn something from this because what you are trying to prove that Blizzard will get sued will NEVER happen... Unless you felt like you just learned the truth that they lied and you are just sueing them because you were mislead which I doubt won;t happen...

  • Oh, here's a quote by you, "Your a Lotro fan boy who can't stand the fact that WoW is and will be forever bigger than Lotro." Well, if it's bigger then WoW how come it is losing 4,000 people a day? Ever since June 26th of last year we were losing 4,000 people a day, and on christmas we lost about 85,000 and we stopped losing people until january 15th of this year and then we started losing bunches.

  • But we USED to have 10 million people! until June 26th... And guess what? We interveiwed Tubine and guess what they said? 3,500- 3700 people were joining lotro a day... So that quote you said is about to become FALSE... :)

  • It's very very clear you don't work for Blizzard and never have.

    For a start Warhammer did not try and due warcraft for copying races. Especially as Warhammer copied them from Tolkien, who actually INVENTED orcs and hobbits.

    Secondly, by saying WoW has a certain ammount of players does attract people to the game. They don't know how many people a server can hold do they?

    WoW will lose it's tital eventually, but not to the MMO's that are soon to come out, a very different one will takeit

  • But as we copied Warhammers race and calling them Night Elves, or the orcs and making them green just like the ones in Warhammer (The only two races we got sued by)... Yes, they don't know how much a server can hold but certainly can't hold 7.5 million so it won't be laggy. But in the Federal Trade Agreements it says that you can say ANYTHING AS LONG IT DOESN'T MISLEAD PEOPLE.

  • 12 Million people is miss leading people.

    Warhammer did not have the right's to sue Blizzard. For the reasons I said before, Warhammer did not have them copyrighted, because they were and still are available to the public domain.

    Tolkien should have copyrighted them, then companies like Blizz and WAR would have had to create complete new races up or buy the rights from Tolkien.

  • ... Yes, Warhammer did copy from Tolkien, but WAR redesigned the races COMPLETELY so they didn't have to buy rights. The only ones they compied were Elves, orcs, and dwarves, but it would be copyrighted if they put a name for a dwarf as Gimli, so yeah, but when we copied alot of there races and having the same idea for the game with the alliance vs Horde they had the EXACT same idea. We also copied the idea of Orgrimmar also but during the lawsuit that wasn't the topic.

  • No, we haven't had one lawsuit against us for having 7.5 million players and saying that we had 10 million, so, we still are getting away with it! :)

  • No, Blizzard don't have a law suit against them for saying they have 12 million active accounts because they do.

    Who are you trying to fool on youtube m8? It's very very clear that you don't and never have worked for Blizzard.

    WAR have never tried to sue Blizzard.

    It would be very stupid for any company to try and sue them, as Blizzard is the third biggest grossing game company in the world.

    Companies realise if they upset Blizzard they upset Blizz fans, reducing their sales.

  • But we don't we have 7.5 million players... And you would NEVER know that because one server can't hold 12 million players! So you can't count how many people there are on one server because you would never know!

    They did! The sued the Wow series not WoW! Sorry if I wasn't clear. But the sued them because they were both strategy games with alot of the same races... Night elves too!

    They did after that law suit...

  • You don't and never have worked for Blizzard.

    World of Warcraft does have 12 million active accounts.

    Warhammer have never tried to sue Blizzard, that was a rumour.

    Above are Fact's, not opinion.

  • I understand why you don't believe me since this is the internet.

    You do not know if that is true, I don't expect you to believe me that WoW has only 7.5 million people and dropping...

    Warhammer did, they sued the WoW series, Warhammer has been goin' since the 80's and we copied Night Elves, Orcs, Dwarves, and Goblins. The trial was short and wasn't considered a "Popular settlement". :)

  • WoW lose up to 7k members each week since the launch of LOTRO.

  • lol, I don't think so.

    If it was lotro's fault that WoW is "supposedly" losing members then why does Age of Conan have more members than Lotro?

    If any game was causing WoW to lose members it's AoC.

    Anyway, don't worry about wow, it's losing no more than a hundred or more subscribers a week.

    Lotro lost 27% of it's subscribers when AoC was released, more than any game has ever lost.

    Just wait until Wrath of the Lich king. Bye bye Lotro.

  • your a idiot. if u hate LOTRO so much, stop watching our videos. your a pathetic scum bag that watches night elves strip on WoW and ur just pissed off that LOTRO is far superior. and AoC sucks. a ton of my buddies that left for it are BACK. so shut the hell up

  • I don't hate Lotro, but you hardcore "fan girls" annoy me when you think that it is beating WoW.

    I play both games, but like WoW a lot more. Gameplay and people who play it are better.

    Oh, how is the Lich King a GW character? WoW has had the Lich King for 10 years, so get your facts right before replying to me, idiot.

    Also, if you think that the Lich King will be an ant compared to the Mine's of Moria then you really need to crawl out of your hole for a second and see the light.

  • I wont be very long... But Lotro is beating WoW. Say what you want but it is.

  • WoW has been losing up to 7k members a week since the release of LOTRO. Gameplay? LOTRO keeps beating it each time it releases a patch and people who play WoW are perverts which cybersex on an MMO. Let me give you a good example - if any of you stil remember the "Oh you touch my talala" video. LOTRO has proven time and time again that it has the mature players. I have never even heard the term noob in that game. I just laid a path to THE light in front of your eyes son.

  • WoW losing 7k members a week is a clear lie! I can't believe people believe that shit.

    Lotro will never have as many subscribers as WoW, mainly because most of the Lotr community didn't like how the game turned out.

    Also you can't say the whole WoW community are perverts because of one FUNNY video, get a sense of humour.

    Also when has Lotro ever proven it's mature?

    Anyway, wait until Wotlk, Lotro will die out even more. It has it's years numbered.

    There's the light sweetheart :)

  • "WoW has been losing 7k members a week since LOTRO's release. It's unbelievable." - WoW Game Maintenance Clerk

    LOTRO and GW2 will kill WoW. Believe it. It has already started. And yes, LOTRO has the most mature players. Since half the WoW players (noobs) only log on to see elf tits. The light is still in my posession son.

  • Sorry to correct you again, but WoW has NOT been losing 7k subscribers, that's a lie not the light, idiot.

    Gw2 won't kill WoW because it is just WoW, but with Guild Wars themes. Lotro won't have any part in it's destruction either, or it would have done some big damage by now.

    I know an MMO will beat wow one day, but it will have to be a complete, new, creative mmo that no one has ever seen before. Not WoW clones like GW, Lotro, AC and WAR.

    The light is mine :)

  • Clones? So by what you're saying, WoW is an EQ clone. Why clones? Because there is grinding in all of them? Dude, that is the basis of all MMOs. GW and LOTRO already did big damage as they are and LOTRO isn't fully released yet. Go and figure out the subscribers of WoW at the time it ruled by itself and the number of subscribers today. Where both games continue to beat WoW out of its dignity. And GW isn't even an MMO yet xD. You may have the "light", but I am Apollo. The 7k is a FACT, idiot.

  • I've actually looked up the 7k loss of subscribers a week, no Blizzard offical actually ever stated this, so no, it's not a fact. Maybe you should have looked it up before lying?

    Also, Lotro and GW are Clones of WoW, same game play, same quest types, same everything. WoW took a lot of it from EQ yeah, but made it better.

    WoW did it right, that's why it's still the biggest MMO by FAR! 12 million subscribers to Lotro's 2 million haha.

    40% of people who left wow came back, fact. Look it up :)

  • That's where you're a tad wrong. Take it like this example: PS started PS3's basis, but PS3 is actually far better. The same with LOTRO and WoW case. LOTRO simply did it better than WoW. Graphics for instance! LOTRO still does baby steps only 1 year alive and it already as you said has 2 mill and MMO of the Year.

  • WoW had 4 million players by the end of it's first year, also isn't this Lotro's second year? Hmm..

    I think Lotro has had the worst reception out of all the major MMO's, by major I mean WoW, GW, EQ and AoC.

    Oh and the "Better graphics" part is up for debation, because I like the "cartoony unrealistic" graphics of WoW, helps me leave this world easier, unlike the "wannabe too realistic" graphics of Lotro.

    Oh and let's not talk about awards, WoW won MMO of the year and PC game of the year

  • True about the 4 million but when WoW was released, it was bigger than LOTRO's Eriador. Bliz decided to release the full world (despite expansions) in one splash unlike LOTRO who actually cares about its fans and lets us become more prone to excitement by releasing the world bit by bit. Can't call it a wannabe, I know that you know that GW and LOTRO's graphics are the most dominant. Take awards this way, whoever wins MMO of the Year, is the next big thing = LoTRO.

  • Lotro a WOW clone?

    Never... I hate Lotro and love Lotro... so there must be something differnt don't you think? More adult players... more believable world... more intense and epic storyline... I could just spend hours in there looking at the lovely world (not only the graphics... also all the small detail that show how important the books are to the creators of the game).

  • Are you kidding me? Wrath Of The Lich King? Lich King? A GW character. Speaking of GW, GW2will also play a big role in the demise of WoW. And back to topic, Wrath Of The Lich King? It is an ant compared to what's going to take place under the mines.

  • My comment below is meant for you too.

  • I FUCKING WANT A NEW PC so I can play lotro:P

  • wow... im big on graphics and the dynamic lighting and player lights.... mannnn!! they arent only making the storyling and gameplay better but graphics too? nice, maybe we can expect them to keep up with the technology graphics wise thro 2015? like uhh... DX11? lol

  • This looks really good, the ad is a little brief and if anone wants better quality of it sign up for the minigames and you automatically get the video. Erigion looks nice, hobbies? dont care that much lol level 60 sound good, and the orc defiler sounds brilliant, a real enhancement to monster play or so it would seem.

  • So Erigion is just another free update? For it said summer 2008 while mines of Moria said fall 2008.. Btw. They're working very quickly, if they continue to do so, we'll be standing in Mordor within 4 years :O!

  • They say it will take until 2015. Can't wait.! :)

  • If there's one thing I've learned from playing lotro, it's I'll never play any other game :D I'm addicted to lotro, and I'm proud of it :)!

  • Nah man take a lot longer, i think theyll go north towards Lonley mtn as well, id give the game another 6-8 years before they have most of middle earth done , another decade atleast before they perfect it

  • 2018 is when they will release Lord Of the Rings Online The Battles of Mordor!

  • world changing instances.....interesting...

  • is this a free update cause i play lotro does it auto do it or i ahve to buy it?

  • Its an expansion pack. You have to buy it.

  • now lotro is my official favorite game

  • Me too

  • Probably will be until 2015! :)

  • Ancient Dwarven Treasure = Killer Loot! Lolz

  • Product not yet...

    Rated.

    I love that! That was funny when they should the Mines of Moria trailer at the end lol

  • Product not yet...

    Rated.

    I love that! That was funny when they should the Mines of Moria trailer at the end lol

  • Best MMO EVER!

  • epic and love the halo thing at the end of the trailer

  • There is only one word man.....Awsome!

  • i have been lvl50 for about a month since lotro came out god i was nearly crying when i heard lmao

    conodir

    eldar

  • OMG this is just soo awesome

  • OMG i cnt wait for this

    Lotro is getting better and better all the time.

  • do u have to play for the updates??

  • not the updates no only thing u have to pay for is the mines of moria expansion this fall

  • For the book updates, No its epic!

    The mines of moria paid expansion you will have to pay for. If you have any questions send me a message.

  • k thx both

  • Mines of Moria will include 6 book updates free content things ;)

  • WOOHOOO! :)

  • Oh my god... :O so...awesome...

  • OMG AWESOME!!!!!!

  • looking forward to this!

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