@neoc03 Well, really what's important here is the mass, not the "weight" of a car based on downforce. The F1 has half as much mass as the M3 regardless of how fast it's going, so it has half as much momentum (mass * velocity) at the same speed, and momentum is what the brakes need to overcome.
@Master1906 No, it is the momentum, if you have twice the momentum you need twice the braking force to stop in the same amount of time (and since they are going the same speed, same time means same distance)
@TheGyldenlove You are judging your theory based only on what you see on screen. Please don't argue with me. I am studying undergrad physics. I think I know. momentum is only useful when determing the relationship between 2 colliding objects and how one will impart some of it's momentum to the other. It is called the conservation of momentum. It has no relationship with the kinetic energy required to stop the vehicle in 'Joules' and is determined by many factors like normal reaction force etc.
@TheGyldenlove I could write you an essay about this. Yes, the car stops twice the distance. That has no meaning without. You said 'Braking force'. Why would you say twice the braking force when the bmw clearly weighs 2x as much maybe more. Even with 4x as much braking force, you haven't thought about friction, reaction time etc... in short, do not come to a conclusion without thinking through the issue clearly taking into account all the factors and a little bit of intelligence will help.
@esukem i did the calcs in 5 secs in my head when i was drunk dufus. and the last time i studied physics was when i was 14 .. why dont you take the calcs further genius and map the exact difference for a hypothetical non-downforce supercar with normal road car tires with a friction max of 1g stopping from 300kph compared with a 2010 spec red-bull rb6 with recorded max braking neg. acceleration starting at 6.5g's at 300kph ?
The difference when braking from 200mph would be even greater , f1 stopping force is proportional to downforce and downforce squares with speed. So there is 125% more braking force or thereabouts from 200mph for only 60% more speed
wow i was excited about getting my driving license soon until i watched this video, im a man f1 fan and i doubt that i will be able to put my f1 skills to use on public roads unless someone can happily donate me an f1 car :[)
Pointless test, the non F1 car is an M3, a £50k sports car, out of price range of probably 90% of the population. It has massive brakes. Why didn't they use a normal hatchback with front disc and rear drum brakes? Like a Punto or a Ford Cmax or something. A car most of us will actually be buying.
@CainG88 Because everyone knows the Punto or Cmax will get destroyed and do terribly. M3 is a car that everyone renowns for its performance and handling. So pitting it against an F1 car shows how good F1 cars brake. If you put it against a cheap P.O.S. you will have skeptics saying the M3 or some other high end sports car would do better. You can imagine the Punto would do MUCH worse. You already have someone saying a Pagani might do better... lol
@CainG88 It's not a pointless test. That car is the same year as my bmw 330ci and its very very affordable, the m3 is about 3k more than what i paid. Plus i'm far from being rich.
@Squawkerd You don't have to understand down-force to appreciate how lightening-fast these things are. People who have ridden in a two-seated F1 car have said that the most impressive part of these cars is not the top speed. It's the breaking into corners and then acceleration out of them that blows people away.
If the tires don't get hot enough they will not stop nearly as well. I imagine if you could keep the engine running at 40mph long enough to do the test, it wouldn't be all that impressive.
That's not a M3 in any form. It's a M-sport E-46 coupe, More than likely a 330ci. The M3 distance and time would be shorter again. You can tell by the Bumper and the wing mirrors, Alloys are different too those are the MV2 spoke alloys (standard from 2002 onwards wth M-sport Trim)
Oh it is. HANS is designed to prevent basilar skull fractures though; it offers no assistance when dealing with the comparatively small braking G-forces in an F1 car (they max out at around 4.5G's of braking force). Skull fractures tend to occur at slightly higher G numbers/changes of momentum.
@Stitch216 You should see a TOp Fuel drag racing brake. They can go from 300mph-0 in so short a time that they generate 6 gs and can pop your eyeballs out of your skull. A Dude had to retire because he did that
aw man... & that's a bmw M3.... I dare you to put up my car... you'd need a new track. it takes my toyota avalon over 450ft to do this.... lmao. I hate my car so much anyways.
yes sander6san this time of 4s05 to do 120mph-0 (192 km/h-0) for a stock M3 is not believable... how can a M3 stop at 192 km/h faster than a Zonda Cinque, wich one does 200 km/h-0 in 4s40 (search on google to confirm) and is about 300 kg lighter, and has much more powerful brakes, etc etc?? so strange
Impressive from the M3. Given that a stock M3 62-0 is around 36m to 37m and additional 32 meters for 120-0 is not believable. Surely must have race brakes, upgrades, etc??
obviously, yes. no need to be a know it all. just pointing out to the guy that tyres play a far more important part in braking distance than the brakes themselves on a road car.
I can even stop faster in my Smart Forfour. By hitting a tree.
rvind92g 5 hours ago
that aint an M3!!!!!!! :P
nikhiltcr1994 8 hours ago
bla bla bla who gives a shit
tiasboi3able 4 days ago
That is not an M3!
CarleeSWE 1 week ago
thats not an M3, M3 has the air vent on each side, thats just a normal 3-series
gtino195 1 month ago
The Formula car is obviously going to stop quicker because it's a lighter car.
Nanospark5 1 month ago
did he say wanker at 0.14????
tractorboydavidbrown 1 month ago
As an M3 driver I suddenly feel very worried about my brakes now.
skaterkid901 3 months ago
32 metres, is that all :- (
Da2faan 4 months ago
The F1 car locked up the brakes. He would have stopped quicker if he hadn't.
jnm98f 4 months ago
I can just feel the gforce, that god awful feeling that your insides will pop out of your chest
Spoksy 4 months ago 3
Question how much more weight does the M3 have over the F1?
gitrdonedavid 5 months ago
@gitrdonedavid F1 car weighs 600 kg, whereas M3 weighs 1300 kg
manneredrock 4 months ago
@manneredrock - an F1 car at full speed weight almost 8000 pounds because of the downforce it generates
neoc03 3 months ago
@neoc03 but as it loses speed, the weigh disappears
manneredrock 2 months ago
@neoc03 Well, really what's important here is the mass, not the "weight" of a car based on downforce. The F1 has half as much mass as the M3 regardless of how fast it's going, so it has half as much momentum (mass * velocity) at the same speed, and momentum is what the brakes need to overcome.
ImTheSecretSquare 1 month ago
@ImTheSecretSquare No it isn't. It is the kinetic energy not the momentum
Master1906 1 month ago
@Master1906 No, it is the momentum, if you have twice the momentum you need twice the braking force to stop in the same amount of time (and since they are going the same speed, same time means same distance)
TheGyldenlove 2 weeks ago
@TheGyldenlove You are judging your theory based only on what you see on screen. Please don't argue with me. I am studying undergrad physics. I think I know. momentum is only useful when determing the relationship between 2 colliding objects and how one will impart some of it's momentum to the other. It is called the conservation of momentum. It has no relationship with the kinetic energy required to stop the vehicle in 'Joules' and is determined by many factors like normal reaction force etc.
Master1906 2 weeks ago
@TheGyldenlove I could write you an essay about this. Yes, the car stops twice the distance. That has no meaning without. You said 'Braking force'. Why would you say twice the braking force when the bmw clearly weighs 2x as much maybe more. Even with 4x as much braking force, you haven't thought about friction, reaction time etc... in short, do not come to a conclusion without thinking through the issue clearly taking into account all the factors and a little bit of intelligence will help.
Master1906 2 weeks ago
@esukem genius*
HiWd2 5 months ago
press 2 and he sais fucking formula! LOL
harrymilzy 5 months ago
lmao and that's on the grooved tires. Imagine with slicks.
devilselbow 5 months ago
holy shit gforces
district37nl 6 months ago
@esukem i did the calcs in 5 secs in my head when i was drunk dufus. and the last time i studied physics was when i was 14 .. why dont you take the calcs further genius and map the exact difference for a hypothetical non-downforce supercar with normal road car tires with a friction max of 1g stopping from 300kph compared with a 2010 spec red-bull rb6 with recorded max braking neg. acceleration starting at 6.5g's at 300kph ?
pvtdangles 6 months ago
pfttt, thats nothing I once had a friend that went from 90mph to 0 instantaneously.....
mind you he did have help from a tree.. and wasn't around afterwards to comment on it....
bidefordrfc 7 months ago 6
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pvtdangles 7 months ago
The difference when braking from 200mph would be even greater , f1 stopping force is proportional to downforce and downforce squares with speed. So there is 125% more braking force or thereabouts from 200mph for only 60% more speed
pvtdangles 7 months ago
Well, road car not exactly, my car will brake in more than100m of distance , tha M3 have very good brakes.
madjh8 7 months ago
wow i was excited about getting my driving license soon until i watched this video, im a man f1 fan and i doubt that i will be able to put my f1 skills to use on public roads unless someone can happily donate me an f1 car :[)
BrotherYounis 7 months ago
they should have done from 186mph to zero then ya would really got your eyes open
rottepung666 8 months ago
its not m3, ok!!!
cvz1999 8 months ago
Wanna see the difference between a Pagani Zonda Cinque and a F-1 car.
Wasn't the pagani the fastest braking road car?
pmlopmlop 9 months ago
@pmlopmlop yes bit it still wouldnt out break an f1.
Lemon0Tart 7 months ago
@Lemon0Tart
I think it'll be rather close.
pmlopmlop 7 months ago
Pointless test, the non F1 car is an M3, a £50k sports car, out of price range of probably 90% of the population. It has massive brakes. Why didn't they use a normal hatchback with front disc and rear drum brakes? Like a Punto or a Ford Cmax or something. A car most of us will actually be buying.
CainG88 9 months ago
@CainG88 Because everyone knows the Punto or Cmax will get destroyed and do terribly. M3 is a car that everyone renowns for its performance and handling. So pitting it against an F1 car shows how good F1 cars brake. If you put it against a cheap P.O.S. you will have skeptics saying the M3 or some other high end sports car would do better. You can imagine the Punto would do MUCH worse. You already have someone saying a Pagani might do better... lol
jctevere 8 months ago
@CainG88 It's not a pointless test. That car is the same year as my bmw 330ci and its very very affordable, the m3 is about 3k more than what i paid. Plus i'm far from being rich.
robbie1490 7 months ago
crazy how much distance 2 seconds are in that difference of time.
braceyoself777 9 months ago
BMW M3 is my dads car
Brylerce 9 months ago
god them brakes are good
toonarmy4ever1021 9 months ago
its looks like 120km/h
janssen70 10 months ago
you couldn't stop that fast if you hit a wall!
cjwalsh7 10 months ago
wasent even a m3-.-
nazymann 10 months ago
@nazymann ya thats true
PATTYZ102 10 months ago
So.. to improve road safety.. we should all drive.. F1 cars?
superhornet59 11 months ago 108
@superhornet59 lol, yep, i vote for you.
Slipvayne21 11 months ago
@superhornet59 count me in, lol
machvelocy 11 months ago
@superhornet59 awsm idea!!!
nowheelspin 2 months ago
.... lol now compare that to my truck lol... Drum brakes ftw.
lifeisgood070 11 months ago
It takes it 2 seconds to get from 120-0. That's absurd! Anyone who doubts F1 as being the fastest and quickest is either ignorant or blind.
shumey7 11 months ago
@shumey7
Generally ignorant or proud, people don't understand downforce.
Squawkerd 11 months ago
@Squawkerd You don't have to understand down-force to appreciate how lightening-fast these things are. People who have ridden in a two-seated F1 car have said that the most impressive part of these cars is not the top speed. It's the breaking into corners and then acceleration out of them that blows people away.
shumey7 11 months ago
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rishibose218 5 months ago
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@Squawkerd welll said... totally agreee.e......
rishibose218 5 months ago
i want a f1 to drive with it to work if i have only 5 minutes remaining xDD
HerrenbachStyle 11 months ago
Vtec kicked in for f1
SuperRockstar206 1 year ago 2
in traffic. "Oh shit, woman in front of me on the phone just dropped her coffee, BRAKE."
"Geico squirrel in the middle of the road, BRAKE."
"Gotta get home b4 the game start, RED LIGHT CAMERA, BRAKE."
scginda803 1 year ago
That is why F1 drivers have to wear helmets - to prevent their eyes falling out...
2oldnot2 1 year ago
Or maybe it would be safer if cars came standard with f1 tires and brakes
ASDFortuna 1 year ago
@ASDFortuna You would also have to shave another 400kgs off the car as well as creating extra downforce. Its not just the tyres and brakes.
PS If you were just being sarcastic, I'll slap myself now :-)
VEVeight 1 year ago
Only for Imagine,
A Porsche 911 stays from 100Kmh (60mph) to 0 in 32 Meters.
A DTM Car stays from 100Kmh (60mph) to 0 in 18 Meters.
kallo182 1 year ago
all i can say right now is " sacrebleu " lol
bark1986 1 year ago 2
I would drive an F1 car but where do i put my grocery bags?
a10fjet 1 year ago
lol...
joyfulvulture 1 year ago
Mabye it would be safer if everyone drove f1 cars???
rossesc 1 year ago 16
@rossesc
If the tires don't get hot enough they will not stop nearly as well. I imagine if you could keep the engine running at 40mph long enough to do the test, it wouldn't be all that impressive.
tkelly27 1 year ago
That's not a M3 in any form. It's a M-sport E-46 coupe, More than likely a 330ci. The M3 distance and time would be shorter again. You can tell by the Bumper and the wing mirrors, Alloys are different too those are the MV2 spoke alloys (standard from 2002 onwards wth M-sport Trim)
davetupps 1 year ago
flat spot, sorry I mean pointless
stoopefy 1 year ago
F1 brakes for everybody in the world please :)
LinkinPark9EVER 1 year ago 3
@LinkinPark9EVER If you pay^^
dalilrafi 1 year ago
@LinkinPark9EVER or a 500 kg diet :)
christofer128 1 year ago
and that isnt a shit car either.. imagine a shit car vs f1 car
paulio2293 1 year ago 4
the F1 stopped right away
kfaslf 1 year ago
wow
alexkvaskov 1 year ago
My car can't even get up to 120mph =[
kevincolvin 1 year ago 184
@kevincolvin XDDDDDDDD
Rocket432101 5 months ago
@kevincolvin omg, i REMEMBER posting this!
kevincolvin 3 months ago 3
@kevincolvin My car can't even get up to 120kmph
darijopotter 2 months ago
I think what he is saying in french is "I Surrender I Surrender"
magnum9987 1 year ago
@magnum9987 LOL!
Claymore2408 1 year ago
They should have done this top speed to 0, you should then check out the distance, it would have been phenomenal
TheGel73 1 year ago
WOW!!
bigcomputer 1 year ago
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FAKE !!!
MrJamDiaz 2 years ago
36m!! That's insane, that's a stopping distance for my golf at about 33-40mph!
ScarTissue1990 2 years ago
thats gotta be painful on the neck. i think they wear hans device anyway.
checkfoldcallraise 2 years ago
Oh it is. HANS is designed to prevent basilar skull fractures though; it offers no assistance when dealing with the comparatively small braking G-forces in an F1 car (they max out at around 4.5G's of braking force). Skull fractures tend to occur at slightly higher G numbers/changes of momentum.
Stitch216 1 year ago
@Stitch216 You should see a TOp Fuel drag racing brake. They can go from 300mph-0 in so short a time that they generate 6 gs and can pop your eyeballs out of your skull. A Dude had to retire because he did that
magnum9987 1 year ago
@magnum9987 top fuel cars also use parachutes, and the braking zone of a drag strip is uphill. Not a very fair comparison.
adrenalineboyzryan 1 year ago
aw man... & that's a bmw M3.... I dare you to put up my car... you'd need a new track. it takes my toyota avalon over 450ft to do this.... lmao. I hate my car so much anyways.
lifeisgood070 2 years ago 6
yes sander6san this time of 4s05 to do 120mph-0 (192 km/h-0) for a stock M3 is not believable... how can a M3 stop at 192 km/h faster than a Zonda Cinque, wich one does 200 km/h-0 in 4s40 (search on google to confirm) and is about 300 kg lighter, and has much more powerful brakes, etc etc?? so strange
matheusgvb 2 years ago
thats a BMW M3 CSL :)
xcroatiaboyx 2 years ago
Impressive from the M3. Given that a stock M3 62-0 is around 36m to 37m and additional 32 meters for 120-0 is not believable. Surely must have race brakes, upgrades, etc??
sander6san 2 years ago
They should have had the M3 running behind the f1 car, see who stops first then.
DarkRoseProductions 2 years ago 2
LMAO!!!!
wilatemodel 2 years ago
man its not to compare, how heavy is the car? and the f1 ?? the most light witll stop more easy its clear.
thytum 2 years ago
thats the point ... showing the difference
Harber3 2 years ago
Tadi tyuah tyuah tadi tadi
lol - german
ManOfMeans 2 years ago
Really wouldn't like to be in the skin of that F1 driver, that must be fucking painful.
inurkiewicz 2 years ago 59
@inurkiewicz are you kiddin..i'd sell my kids to be that driver
chilby00 1 year ago
@inurkiewicz Yeah, your eyeballs would be smooshed against the visor :P
Slashbag69 9 months ago
i wanna see this demonstration with my buick instead of the bmw- 4 wheel drums, no power assist xD
yutubehero 2 years ago
lol the F1 weights about 600 kg and BMW is about 1500kg , its normal difference for these machines.
tzurka 2 years ago
Where can I get those brakes
ed200007 2 years ago
its where you can get the fucking tyres, not the brakes dude
racefactory900 2 years ago
It's a combination of everything. Light-weight chassis, rotors, pads, calipers, aerodynamics and yes, tires.
michaelthepsycho 2 years ago
obviously, yes. no need to be a know it all. just pointing out to the guy that tyres play a far more important part in braking distance than the brakes themselves on a road car.
racefactory900 2 years ago
The way you said it, I had to do it :D Obviously, I understand you know your shit...
michaelthepsycho 2 years ago
那没问题!呵呵。
racefactory900 2 years ago
fuck well no shit but of course the f1 would brake far less distance than a regular car
golfinguy55555 2 years ago
The only way you'll slow down sooner than that is to hit a brick wall
thetourle 2 years ago
haaha lets puts f1 brakes on all our cars so we never have too be afriad that we dont stop on time haaaha
DORUKOZKAN 3 years ago
fark.....u see f1's sliding around like crazy sometimes this is awesome stopping powa!!!1
Dupster1234 3 years ago
lol i thought u said fake, i was about to be like wtf
damo1128 3 years ago
That's stopping on a dime!
compdude47 3 years ago
but thats not a m3
burritomaker69 3 years ago
DAMN!
Melo15xSTAT1 3 years ago
That's awesome!
I like how the M3 just keeps going long time after the F1 already have stopped. - but is the speed really 120 mph (193 km/h)?
The BMW M3 stops in 4,05 secs - that's an average deceleration of 13,3 m/s² (1,35 G)
- that seems very fast for that car
If the speed is 160 km/h (99 mph) - wich is a common speed used for brake and acceleration tests.
The average deceleration of the M3 will be 11 m/s² (1,12 G) and for the F1 21 m/s² (2,14 G) - seems more correct.
C20rules 3 years ago
alright showoff
safeting123 2 years ago
that's right man, 1.3g is too high for a road car, either the speed is wrong or it must have slick tyres which might pull something close to 1.35g.
I'd be surprised if that car, road legal would get more than 1.1g. 1g for the tyres coefficient friction and .1 for aerodynamic drag!
nice work! I think it is 160kmh too...
racefactory900 2 years ago
great
champiforest 3 years ago
good braking man hehe
melok2 3 years ago
Impressive
Poutross 3 years ago
ow!!!
shckar 3 years ago
amazing!!!!!!!
yoman2002 3 years ago 2