Jeep Grand Cherokee Diesel

[silac1993]

Wow, I never knew that past version of this Grand Cherokee came with a Diesel engine! That's pretty cool!

[chinchillawrangler]

yeah i remember my dads old 2006 ram 6.7 cummins 3500 crew cab got 19city and 20 somethin on the highway. (calculated it out by hand) so a fulll size truck getting pretty close to this smaller suv is pretty sad...cummins should build a smaller cummins motor for their chrysler

[ashman8717]

4WD is better

[Paulpunkrocks]

I'm really waiting for a diesel tacoma to come to america that gets 30+ mpg hwy and is a 4x4

[FUCK202]

i just love the way in america they have these promotional videos exploring the diesel engine with these eco stickers on the side of the promotional cars, whereas most of the rest of the world is dominated by the diesel engine.

[mikeasdf12345678]

Hey chillibeans2 where u getting that it's 2 wheel drive. It's all wheel drive and still has optional transfercase for low and high real 4wd. Check ur stats before u type jibberish

[Dj3Dub]

Is urea needed as an additive?

[erk409]

i really think there is so much room for improvment for there fuel miliage numbers. my ram 2500 weights 8800 lbs and it gets 18.5 to 20 mpg stock.

[bmwjohn]

22mpg LOL jeep should have put a cummins in it. 4bt or 6bt

[jeep4jeep]

@bmwjohn

Thats US mpg... in the UK I get 24 to 25 city - Highway/Motorway varies 27 to 34MPG UK..... Mate with Audi A4 2.0 Diesel gets 29... which is a lighter car and smaller engine...

(oh and the Audi keeps breaking down-same year as my jeep - same mileage)

[Tb2x]

@jeep4jeep What kind of problems did it have?

[CincinnatiArmory]

i bought an 04 gc and i specifically asked the salesman is there a diesel coming out and he said no way not in the us. I will never buy another jeep again because I would have bought this truck 6 months later and loved it instead I got garbage that always has problems next time it's toyota 4runner I recommend you all do the same

[cowmilky]

@CincinnatiArmory Well you were the one that asked a saleman, they barly know about whats on the lot, you aked if something is coming out that the owner of the dealership would not even know!

[xxwillfirexx]

@CincinnatiArmory well sorry for your troubles but I dont have a single thing wrong with my zj that I cant handle maybe you don't know what you are doing or you dont have a good jeep just remember one rule built not bought if you know what you are doing you can make that sheet metal into the shiniest piece of gold you ever seen.

[wppd2001]

This video prompted me to post my first post ever on here b/c the people who posted comments about other diesel vehicles that are both 20yrs old and have larger engines getting better mpg are 100 percent correct!!! This cherokee should do much better on mpg!! I have a 1987 chevy truck that has a 6.2L v8 diesel and it gets 24mpg on average/ not only highway driving! I can set the cc @ 74mph on the interstate while pulling a loaded car and still get at least 20mpg all day long!!!no bs!

[MrChris1316]

o excellent 21 mpg ..wow iits doin the same figures as a v8 petrol was supposed to 20 years ago...!!!!!!!!!

[eee172]

man this edition from jeep is fucking unbelieveble but the 2011 is the dream of all 4x4 and SUV s cars.

[Seattlecarnut]

That is impressive for an SUV. One doesn't normally expect a 4wd SUV to return more than 20mpgs in either city or highway driving. Despite the stigma surrounding the diesel engine, I don't believe that diesel is, or has ever been as bad an option as we've been lead to believe in the past 30 years.

[FORDRANGERRACER]

I hope you're joking about the tires, my Ranger got 75k miles with them on and there was still 1/4 tread. Ford was the first, and WILL be the last

[durgaisiva]

Mercedes E300D had a 36 mpg rating. Merc suckers stopped producing those vehicles. E-class are quite heavy, I wonder what an SUV is apart from being heavy.

[laxwarwick22]

i want a diesel jeep! and i would increase the boost for even better mpg!

[Rabiesthecat]

they already get 23 mpg

[Kapnatui]

This is what we have in Kenya,We have the right hand drive Jeep Grand Cherokee Diesel's

[willdog3]

for a big SUV with a V6 and that much horsepower, 22 highway MPGs is not bad.

[starmanskye]

17/22 mpg STINKS!!! In 1987, Jeep sold a very few Cherokees fitted with a 1.7 liter Renault turbo that delivered 35 mpg hiway. This is 20 year old technology, folks! WTF has Detroit been DOING for the past 20 years, designing, building & selling gas-hogs fitted with a bunch of luxury options that aren't needed & that break-down requiring expensive 'factory-trained' technicians to fix. BULLSHIT! Non-computerized systems are often more reliable, inexpensive & efficient.

[unimogman404]

@starmanskye : Actually, the Jeep was available from1985-1987 with Renault 2.1L 4cyl. Turbo Diesel - 85 hp @ 3750 rpm, 132 ft lb @ 2750 rpm .

[ss0rca]

@ starmanskye Why do people always blame Detroit for EPA and NHTSA mandates. Why don't you think it through before you post it.

[tpvalley]

the mpg isnt very good, I had a range rover did better mpg than that!

[Rabiesthecat]

at 23 mpg the mileage on the jeep is damn good

[tpvalley]

no its not! not for a 2.5td.

My range rover could get as much as 30-35mpg from a 2.5tdi and it had same power and torque!

[Rabiesthecat]

yes but because of all this EPA bullshit and what-not we get over here in America (I don't know where you are located) we get worse MPG

[tpvalley]

so the stuff to reduce polution makes engines less efficient?!

I know when cold, catalytic converters pollute more but thats wierd.

what have u got? EGR, catalytic convertors and dpf (we have these in uk), what else? these r common rail arent they u should still be getting 30mpg, we get nearly 40mpg from a common rail 3.0tdci ford!

[Rabiesthecat]

well to an extent yes

they only had the liberty diesel's for a year here in the US (which is what I've got) and it has all that standard EGR and what-not like you said.

but the Cherokee diesel came out for 3 years (07-09) correct me if I am wrong

but the fact is you drive by KM we drive by miles

meaning we use more diesel than you do because we go faster

[tpvalley]

nope, in the uk we drive in mph and our roads r fast and twisty so should use more fuel, plus our moterways r 70mph, even the tiny roads r 60mph, the slowest we go is 30mph in town whereas in usa u do 15 dont u?

an english gallon is slightly bigger though, there r 0.8 american gallons to a british gallon I believe.

oh and in europe on some roads no speed limits at all exist apart from minimums! u get nutters in mercedes cruising at 150mph!

[Rabiesthecat]

@tpvalley

hmm ok

the in-town speed limit is 25-35 mph

if only america had roads with no speed limits

:D

[jeep4jeep]

@tpvalley

Thats because a Mercedes is designed to do it...

mine site very happy at 145mph on the Autobhan....

We're not talking about Kia or ford build quality here where the thing shakes to pieces as it gets near the redline at 100mph.

My Mercedes is only 3000rpm at around 100mph!

[tpvalley]

correction; the bmw inline 6 diesel had 134bhp @4400 and 199lbft at 2300rpm.

the older vm diesels that were also used in some earlier jeeps but blew up left right and centre due to head faults had;

2.4vm 112@4200 183lbft@2400rpm

2.5vm 119bhp@4200 2.9lbft@1950rpm

oh and the tdv6 had174-188bhp4000rpm

288lbft@2000rpm to 325lbft@1900rpm, the tdv6 is on late models, they now have a tdv8.

[jeep4jeep]

@tpvalley

Our roads not that fast, city average is around 11mph... Ignore what the limit says!

Have an on board computer that works it out for you.

[jeep4jeep]

@tpvalley

Ford Mondeo weight is only 1200kg + more aerodynamic.

Jeep weights 2250kg and has a fulltime 4wd system, and is less aerodynamic.

Ford will be scrapped a long time before the Jeep.

another example from my own experience, things like tyres wear for 20-25,000 on a road car at best. Jeep typically for about 40-60,000 miles!

There is simply no comparison!!

Close friend has audo a4 on a 55 plate 2.0tdi, city 29mpg & motorway mid to late 30's.

My 3.0 Jeep 24 city and normally 33 motorway.

[jeep4jeep]

@tpvalley

Range Rover never had a specific tdi emblem on it, AND it is NOT EU4 emissions rated.

The Range Rover will have one of two 2.5 diesels, either the old school 2.5 Land Rover diesel, or slightly newer 2.5 straight 6 diesel from the BMW. That BMW M51 Diesel is between 114 or 141, age dependant, it delivers 164 ft.pounds torque.

Thats a far cry from the Mercedes CRD Diesel, delivering 215hp and 376 ft.pounds torque and is EU4 rated, which restricts the engine a lot.

Maybe check ur figs

[tpvalley]

the range rover classic (origional shape but 5 doors) never used landrovers old 2.5 diesel even in turbo form, it used the VM2.4 then 2.5td then used the 200 and 300tdo which had 111bhp and 200lbft torque, the later range rovers had the bmw inline 6 but the torque was more than the TDI not 164, still a weak engine.

I didnt give any figures btw apart from mpg.

oh and my dad has an a4 2.0tdi 140bhp, that does 55mpg on a run and weighs about 1200-1400kg although the trip meter thing says 29town

[tpvalley]

In fact even the landrovers with the buick/ rover V8 petrol get 25mpg!! and thats a 3.9 litre!

[tuulariboi84]

it's 215 hp and 376 ft lbs

[mtb416]

250hp and 376lbs?!

[taleel22]

get the dam hemi. more power and when u are not using that power it has a cylinder shut valves..........

[732lover]

taleel22 I so agree with you my friend =) I've got a5.7L hemi grand cherokee, and half the time it runs on four cylinders, and it does 24ish mpg

[jonesd5o]

u sir are a dumb fuck the diesel gets way better than any gas engine always will be

[terruco20]

Ha ha yeah, only dumb ppl could buy a 2wd version of grand cherokee

[FordCopChrist1995]

I find it funny people buy the 2 wheel drive version of the Grand Cherokee.

[tpvalley]

Thats not very good mpg.

U can get an easy 30mpg and more from a tdi landrover!

[rudolphna54]

Are yoi kidding? LAndrovers are THE most unreliable brand out there.

[tpvalley]

If they were that bad the military wouldnt use them.

Jeep diesels used to use the VM diesel BTW, a terrible engine, kept blowing head gaskets although land rover tried same engine for a short while and rejected it!

[rudolphna54]

the military DOESNT use them.... They use the original Humvee. And I havent heard any reports of lots of blown head gaskets on the Liberty CRD

[tpvalley]

There r countries beside USA u know!

The british military use the defender wolf landrover.

The CRD isnt a VM engine is it!?

Pay attention.

Land rovers have been used on epic world trips, they r the most commonly used due to them being easy to fix by anyone with limited tools and good on fuel.

The new ones r just like anything else modern though, to much electric trickery to need computers to fix.

Most reliable 4x4 is toyota landcruiser, the UN have over 60,000 of them.

[madmax3078]

Haha I have not heard any good things about land rover recently. My friend has an 87 Range Rover Classic (160k mi) and it breaks down more than my 89 cherokee(208k mi)

[tpvalley]

The range rover petrol has an american design engine u know.

[madmax3078]

is that a reply to me? Cant tell. my friends RR has a 3.5ltr v8 or something. . . Freekishly small and WAY underpowerd. But the engine has had no trouble(fresh rebuild). But the chassie, interior, and exterior are kind of in rough shape(he uses it offroad). All the springs are sagging BAD! There like an expensive cherokee. . .

[tpvalley]

underpowered?!

He must have a lemon.

[madmax3078]

What power numbers would you expect a n/a 3.5ltr v8 to put out? It also has to push a 5400lb vehicle. My 4.0 cherokee motor would push that thing better than that v8. They put way to small on an engine in them at that year.

[tpvalley]

165bhp and 207lbft.

upto over 200 depending on model.

They used to use engines with about 60bhp!

in low range u dont need any more power in high range they re pretty fast.

police used them.

[madmax3078]

At what RPM does it make that power and torque?

[tpvalley]

4750rpm, similar to jeep..

peak torque is at 2800rpm

for the same model year they make the 3.9 which is 182bhp and 231lbft.

jeep is more or less same size and weight isnt it?

The wrangler jeep has to be the best jeep.

I saw a cherokee with a 2.5 petrol I4 for sale! thats gotta be slow.

[madmax3078]

2.5L I4 carburated - 105 hp @ 5000 rpm, 132 ft lb torque @ 2800 rpm - used in 84-85 models

2.5L I4 TBI (fuel injected) - 117 hp @ 5000 rpm, 135 ftlb @ 3500 rpm - used in 86 and updated in 87-90 to 121hp

2.5L I4 MPI (multi-port injection) - 130 hp @ 5250 rpm, 139 ft lb @ 3250 rpm - used in 91-00

GM 2.8L V6 - 115 hp @ 4800 rpm, 145 ft lb @ 2400 rpm - used in 84-86

Renault 2.1L 4cyl. Turbo Diesel - 85 hp @ 3750 rpm, 132 ft lb @ 2750 rpm - used in 85-87

[madmax3078]

Italian VM 2.5L Turbo Diesel - 140 hp, 236 ft lb torque - used in overseas XJs

4.0L I6 EFI "Power Tech" - 177 hp @ 4750 rpm, 220 ft lb @ 4000 rpm - used 87-90

4.0L I6 MPI "Power Tech HO" (High Output) - 190 hp @ 4750 rpm, 220 ft lb @ 4,000 rpm - used in 91-95 and updated in 96-01 to 225 ft lb torque @ 3000 rpm (00-01 models use a distributorless ignition system)

[madmax3078]

So ya it does come with some freakishly small engines. . But the I6 is the most common and most reliable by far. I have one in my 89 and it scoots allong considerign it has 33" tires and steel wheels.

[madmax3078]

Curb weight 4wd = 3,057 lbs - 3,386 lbs

[tpvalley]

R u sure the vm wasnt 120bhp?

a 2.1 renault engine! thats an old one, they destroy cylinder heads!

Must be dam slow!

U didnt mention the blutec engines (or something), mercedes diesel engine?

[madmax3078]

Pretty sure. Never heard of the 2.1 destroying cylinder heads. How does it happen?

Don't know what about a Bluetec engine for the cherokee. I'm not the all seeing. With some of those engines it would be slow. But you would be surprised how peppy a 4cyl can be.

Then again i havent seen a cherokee with anything but the 4.0. . . Would be a rare find.

[tpvalley]

the water galleries in head collapse!

They bored and stroked that engine to 2.3 then 2.5 for use in fords and vans, the 2.5 was terrible.

Have u ever heard of the ford 2.5Di engine used in vans, thats a good engine.

[madmax3078]

what makes them collapse? Thats strange. Nope never heard of the 2.5DI.

I have a few project motors. and a few complete. All V8's Not to much into the smaller engines yet. I want a small motor to put in an fl350

[tpvalley]

Dont know, it may be only the larger bore engines come to think of it.

I want a 7.3idi engine in something, like a rwd european car!

[tpvalley]

Whats the bhp of the 4litre 6?

[madmax3078]

'87...... XJ: 173hp at 4500rpm, 220lbft @ 2500rpm, redline 5000rpm So its not much better but still. 8 vs I6 (inline) But still 200lbft for a 5400lb suv?

[lictor313]

finally an american car actually worth considering...

why not have this powerplant in the commander?

[BoonDocker77]

This puts out the equivelant torque as a Hemi

[lucasfan18]

Mercedes 3.0ltr crd diesel with 5 speed box putting out 510nm an awesome beast and a force to be reckoned with. Am proud to call my car

[suzukihayabusa73]

I am proud to call it my car as wel, and had it chiptuned and it has 625 nm and 275 bhp topspeed is 225 kmh, 0-100 is just 7 seconds and the feull consumption is a lot less

[volvobobben]

diesel is very commen i europa

[crownvicburnout]

thats a mercedes sprinter engine out of the big van

nice

[knsc21]

it says it gets 26 city and 31 hwy