…picked on in high school. Rummage through an atheist's emotional baggage and you will find a pile of leftover teenage angst, a few cases of repressed rage at mommy and daddy, and an overpowering urge to feel superior wrapped around a stupendous amount of self-loathing. But hey, no disrespect intended.
@Redskin1040 What as opposed to the emotional baggage of religious people who can't put aside childish fairy stories. An 'all knowing' deity plus freewill is the mother of all oxymorons. They cannot coexist because you cannot change the known. We'd be left with predestination.
The upshot of clinging to such childish emotional baggage, is the intolerant belief that anyone who disagree's will be tortured for all eternity for being unable to change a predetermind existence. ie codswallop.
@Valthepixie What makes you happy? Atheists have borrowed the moral worldview of Christianity and claim it can be sustained by the underlying assumptions of a godless existence. Atheism is an anti-worldview that, ironically, needs Christianity to exist. Nothing could make an atheist happier than the demise of Christianity. Atheists in the atheistic Soviet Union, Communist China, and Cambodia couldn’t be happier with Christianity’s demise. But I wonder what the tens of millions of people who…
@Redskin1040 You are confusing an atheist, which simply means a nonbelief in deities, with an anti theist. Everybody is an atheist including you. I'm assuming you don't believe in Thor, Odin, or the woowoo up the mountain. Atheists just go one deity further.
An anti thiest is someone who want's to remove ALL religions from authority over everybody else, not just Christianity. Being anti theist does not mean the person is evil and wants to kill people, just the draconian tyranny.
@Valthepixie …suffered and died (more so than any fanatical religion has killed) under these regimes would say. How happy do you think they were? Now don’t get me wrong. Religious fundamentalism is as dangerous, but attacking belief or philosophy won’t make any society productive. What about the growing openness to religious freedom in China? A former Communist Party official and convert to Christianity, Zhao Xiao, says that although China is officially an atheist country known for...
@Valthepixie ..oppressing Christians also says that God will use China to proclaim His works. "We look ahead and China will probably ... have the largest Christian population". The prominent economist anticipates China becoming a "new city on a hill."So, you can call religion “codswallop”, but when an atheistic society starts turning to God for answers, it’s plain that religion will never die and atheists will always fight it. If you’re happy as a clam not believing, then good for you. Leave...
@Redskin1040 "If you’re happy as a clam not believing, then good for you. Leave..."
Where did you miss the title of this video... "Anti Religion ?".
Seems to me you are the one should leave. All you are doing is playing the victim, when in fact Christianity has the worst historical track record of inhumanity imaginable. Typically acting towards your own religious organization like the three monkeys, see no evil, hear no evil, slander everyone else to distract from your own evil.
@Redskin1040 I think you religious folks should put away your childish fairy stories, your global conquests and grow up. How is religion any different than the worst dictatorship ??? All them take away your rights, all of them disempower and enslave, all of them victimize and torture people for disagreeing, and all of them commit genocide.
Riddle me this.. How can you change the known ?????
@Valthepixie First, I know what an atheist is, thank you. Second, I am a former atheist, been there, done that, argued with every type of theist, fanatic and fundamentalist. Thirdly, I mention Christianity because I know and read about more Christians than Muslims, Jews, etc. Lastly, you have completely misquoted me (which is a common practice for atheists). I never said “Leave” I said “Leave others who are happy believing (and doing good works for society, of course) to their belief and work…
@Redskin1040 "Lastly, you have completely misquoted me (which is a common practice for atheists). I never said “Leave” I said “Leave others who are happy believing (and doing good works for society, of course) to their belief and work… "
Oh no I did not misquote you. Your post ends with leave, the rest of it is not there so you are a liar.
And stop slandering people for disagreeing, all it does is make you look like a bad loser kiddie having a fit of spite. Pathetic.
@Valthepixie …together towards a common goal.” Now to quote you, “Being anti theist does not mean the person is evil and wants to kill people, just the draconian tyranny”. I couldn’t agree more which is why I say “work together towards a common goal.” I had spent many years looking for an answer and not just denying something without properly exhausting all research (at least, to my satisfaction). I now know that there is a God because I had a tangible and physical experience that taught me…
@Valthepixie …otherwise despite “childish fairy tales”. I’m not a “Religious folk” playing a victim and anyone who does isn’t worthy of God’s message. I also don’t care if anyone else believes me because I have my “known”.
I can't. Mores to the point, neither could you. Freewill and 'all knowing' are two opposing absolutes. You cannot change the known. It is an oxymoron, a contradiction in terms like 'open secret' or 'pretty ugly'. All we would have is predestination, not freewill. They cannot coexist.
It has to be one of the most disempowering, depressing beliefs every dreamt up. It is an insult to inteligence.
@Valthepixie If you bothered to scroll down the comments a little farther you'd have seen the rest of the comment and you'd not have misunderstood me and call me a liar. It seems you're narrow sighted and want to argue for arguments sake which makes you look like a boor. I don't bother talking to people who revert to insults and are as set in their ways as badly as any religious fanatic that you yourself accuse. That is a sign of inferior intellect. I don't need or want to convince you of…
@Redskin1040 If you don't want people to misunderstand then don't put breaks in mid sentence. I'm not narrow sighted and neither do I have an ineferior intellect. All you are doing is trolling for Christianity by slandering and vilifying everyone who disagrees with you. Boasting about your religions global conquests like that is substantiation of your claims.
You are worming out of answering my question... How can you change the known ? You can answer but won't because it proves you wrong.
@Valthepixie Sorry you're not narrow sighted, but narrow minded. I don't need to answer any question because no matter what the answer is you will just come back with another quip. I know many atheists who agree that we need to work together for a positive outcome in our present society regardless of background. So if all you want to do is try to impress everyone here with innanities that don't apply to a solution, you're wasting your time. Why do you get riled up talking to a stranger?
@Redskin1040 I did'nt disagree people need to work together. I don't agree we should all adopt your religion and your religions way of doing things, because historically, it is a dictatorship no less brutal and inhuman than any other. You have your 'faith' that oxymorons can coexist. I live in the real world where they do not. The world has real problems that need real solutions, not 'faith' in bronze age oxymorons.
LOL What makes you think I'm riled up. That's hilarious.
Atheism’s like a religion for people who worship Richard Dawkins instead of God. It is most notably the only “religion” without any real basis or organization whatsoever. Its followers are no less uneducated, dogmatic and fanatical about their chosen spiritual path than they claim Muslims, Christians, Hindus or Jews to be. However, there is a key difference. People who convert to Islam or Buddhism do so for philosophical or cultural reasons: people who become atheists do so because they got…
if religion were to come to an end we would just direct our "angst" somewhere else, so i don't think it would really be missed we would just argue and fight over something else
Religion has always plagued me, thus, i would not care, it's been forced on me many times, but, i couldn't care less if religion was gone. I actully think a lot of things *may* be better, yet, some things, or even countries wouldn't exist in my veiw.
it aided survival for the human race for a while but were at the turning point where religios is becaoming detramantal rather than beneficial. were at the point where truth is more valuable than lies.
what the hell is the truth define it if its the survival of the fittest and fuck every body else then how is that beneficial to the survival of the human race we saw what happens in other countries when this mentality pervades a culture its not pretty and life gets pretty boring when there is only one point of veiw and story of reality the truth is their is no ultimate truth
You're incredibly smart, which makes it all the more preposterous that with such common occurances as dreams (lucid and otherwise), OBEs, NDEs, Astral travel and the like you could still be atheist.
In relation to you, Doubt in the above Crowley would respond :
"I slept with an atheist, and found him a one pump chump."
:)
I watched the Rejecting Atheism video you highlighted. Heh. Same message as nosy christians "The other side is a danger, and we are threatened by them."
Hell man, all you have to do is not eat the yellow snow. You don't have to hate it or define yourself by the fact you didn't.
not being dogmatic about anything dont close you mind to any knowledge or label yourself be a blank slate but be open but be prepared to break the slate
I think we've all made the mistake at one point or another of blaming the religion, when it's actually the individual that is the problem. Anyone that does not question the dogma and doctrine is the problem. Religion in and of itself is fine.
With christiany and without it, you atheist will still think and do evil the same way.
cmpresents 6 months ago
…picked on in high school. Rummage through an atheist's emotional baggage and you will find a pile of leftover teenage angst, a few cases of repressed rage at mommy and daddy, and an overpowering urge to feel superior wrapped around a stupendous amount of self-loathing. But hey, no disrespect intended.
Redskin1040 1 year ago
@Redskin1040 What as opposed to the emotional baggage of religious people who can't put aside childish fairy stories. An 'all knowing' deity plus freewill is the mother of all oxymorons. They cannot coexist because you cannot change the known. We'd be left with predestination.
The upshot of clinging to such childish emotional baggage, is the intolerant belief that anyone who disagree's will be tortured for all eternity for being unable to change a predetermind existence. ie codswallop.
Valthepixie 9 months ago
@Valthepixie What makes you happy? Atheists have borrowed the moral worldview of Christianity and claim it can be sustained by the underlying assumptions of a godless existence. Atheism is an anti-worldview that, ironically, needs Christianity to exist. Nothing could make an atheist happier than the demise of Christianity. Atheists in the atheistic Soviet Union, Communist China, and Cambodia couldn’t be happier with Christianity’s demise. But I wonder what the tens of millions of people who…
Redskin1040 9 months ago
@Redskin1040 You are confusing an atheist, which simply means a nonbelief in deities, with an anti theist. Everybody is an atheist including you. I'm assuming you don't believe in Thor, Odin, or the woowoo up the mountain. Atheists just go one deity further.
An anti thiest is someone who want's to remove ALL religions from authority over everybody else, not just Christianity. Being anti theist does not mean the person is evil and wants to kill people, just the draconian tyranny.
Valthepixie 9 months ago
@Valthepixie …suffered and died (more so than any fanatical religion has killed) under these regimes would say. How happy do you think they were? Now don’t get me wrong. Religious fundamentalism is as dangerous, but attacking belief or philosophy won’t make any society productive. What about the growing openness to religious freedom in China? A former Communist Party official and convert to Christianity, Zhao Xiao, says that although China is officially an atheist country known for...
Redskin1040 9 months ago
@Valthepixie ..oppressing Christians also says that God will use China to proclaim His works. "We look ahead and China will probably ... have the largest Christian population". The prominent economist anticipates China becoming a "new city on a hill."So, you can call religion “codswallop”, but when an atheistic society starts turning to God for answers, it’s plain that religion will never die and atheists will always fight it. If you’re happy as a clam not believing, then good for you. Leave...
Redskin1040 9 months ago
@Redskin1040 "If you’re happy as a clam not believing, then good for you. Leave..."
Where did you miss the title of this video... "Anti Religion ?".
Seems to me you are the one should leave. All you are doing is playing the victim, when in fact Christianity has the worst historical track record of inhumanity imaginable. Typically acting towards your own religious organization like the three monkeys, see no evil, hear no evil, slander everyone else to distract from your own evil.
Valthepixie 9 months ago
@Redskin1040 I think you religious folks should put away your childish fairy stories, your global conquests and grow up. How is religion any different than the worst dictatorship ??? All them take away your rights, all of them disempower and enslave, all of them victimize and torture people for disagreeing, and all of them commit genocide.
Riddle me this.. How can you change the known ?????
Valthepixie 9 months ago
@Valthepixie First, I know what an atheist is, thank you. Second, I am a former atheist, been there, done that, argued with every type of theist, fanatic and fundamentalist. Thirdly, I mention Christianity because I know and read about more Christians than Muslims, Jews, etc. Lastly, you have completely misquoted me (which is a common practice for atheists). I never said “Leave” I said “Leave others who are happy believing (and doing good works for society, of course) to their belief and work…
Redskin1040 9 months ago
@Redskin1040 "Lastly, you have completely misquoted me (which is a common practice for atheists). I never said “Leave” I said “Leave others who are happy believing (and doing good works for society, of course) to their belief and work… "
Oh no I did not misquote you. Your post ends with leave, the rest of it is not there so you are a liar.
And stop slandering people for disagreeing, all it does is make you look like a bad loser kiddie having a fit of spite. Pathetic.
Valthepixie 9 months ago
@Valthepixie …together towards a common goal.” Now to quote you, “Being anti theist does not mean the person is evil and wants to kill people, just the draconian tyranny”. I couldn’t agree more which is why I say “work together towards a common goal.” I had spent many years looking for an answer and not just denying something without properly exhausting all research (at least, to my satisfaction). I now know that there is a God because I had a tangible and physical experience that taught me…
Redskin1040 9 months ago
@Redskin1040 "I now know that there is a God because I had a tangible and physical experience"
Answer this one question if you believe there is an all knowing deity... How can you change the known ???
Valthepixie 9 months ago
@Valthepixie …otherwise despite “childish fairy tales”. I’m not a “Religious folk” playing a victim and anyone who does isn’t worthy of God’s message. I also don’t care if anyone else believes me because I have my “known”.
Riddle me this… How can you change my known?
Redskin1040 9 months ago
@Redskin1040 "How can you change my known?"
I can't. Mores to the point, neither could you. Freewill and 'all knowing' are two opposing absolutes. You cannot change the known. It is an oxymoron, a contradiction in terms like 'open secret' or 'pretty ugly'. All we would have is predestination, not freewill. They cannot coexist.
It has to be one of the most disempowering, depressing beliefs every dreamt up. It is an insult to inteligence.
Valthepixie 9 months ago
@Valthepixie If you bothered to scroll down the comments a little farther you'd have seen the rest of the comment and you'd not have misunderstood me and call me a liar. It seems you're narrow sighted and want to argue for arguments sake which makes you look like a boor. I don't bother talking to people who revert to insults and are as set in their ways as badly as any religious fanatic that you yourself accuse. That is a sign of inferior intellect. I don't need or want to convince you of…
Redskin1040 9 months ago
@Redskin1040 If you don't want people to misunderstand then don't put breaks in mid sentence. I'm not narrow sighted and neither do I have an ineferior intellect. All you are doing is trolling for Christianity by slandering and vilifying everyone who disagrees with you. Boasting about your religions global conquests like that is substantiation of your claims.
You are worming out of answering my question... How can you change the known ? You can answer but won't because it proves you wrong.
Valthepixie 9 months ago
@Valthepixie Sorry you're not narrow sighted, but narrow minded. I don't need to answer any question because no matter what the answer is you will just come back with another quip. I know many atheists who agree that we need to work together for a positive outcome in our present society regardless of background. So if all you want to do is try to impress everyone here with innanities that don't apply to a solution, you're wasting your time. Why do you get riled up talking to a stranger?
Redskin1040 9 months ago
@Redskin1040 I did'nt disagree people need to work together. I don't agree we should all adopt your religion and your religions way of doing things, because historically, it is a dictatorship no less brutal and inhuman than any other. You have your 'faith' that oxymorons can coexist. I live in the real world where they do not. The world has real problems that need real solutions, not 'faith' in bronze age oxymorons.
LOL What makes you think I'm riled up. That's hilarious.
Valthepixie 9 months ago
@Redskin1040 "Sorry you're not narrow sighted, but narrow minded "
Explain yourself. How am I being narrow minded ???
Valthepixie 9 months ago
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@Valthepixie …anything so stop wasting my time. You contacted me first, remember?
Redskin1040 9 months ago
@Valthepixie …others who are happy believing (and doing good works for society, of course) to their belief and work together towards a common goal.
Redskin1040 9 months ago
Atheism’s like a religion for people who worship Richard Dawkins instead of God. It is most notably the only “religion” without any real basis or organization whatsoever. Its followers are no less uneducated, dogmatic and fanatical about their chosen spiritual path than they claim Muslims, Christians, Hindus or Jews to be. However, there is a key difference. People who convert to Islam or Buddhism do so for philosophical or cultural reasons: people who become atheists do so because they got…
Redskin1040 1 year ago
if religion were to come to an end we would just direct our "angst" somewhere else, so i don't think it would really be missed we would just argue and fight over something else
MrAnomnomnom 1 year ago
if any one wants true knowledge and to come into conact with a higher intelligance then take entheogens.thats how DNA was discovered
wizedmt 2 years ago
Religion has always plagued me, thus, i would not care, it's been forced on me many times, but, i couldn't care less if religion was gone. I actully think a lot of things *may* be better, yet, some things, or even countries wouldn't exist in my veiw.
Meowpoof122 2 years ago
it aided survival for the human race for a while but were at the turning point where religios is becaoming detramantal rather than beneficial. were at the point where truth is more valuable than lies.
PaddyCuinne 2 years ago
what the hell is the truth define it if its the survival of the fittest and fuck every body else then how is that beneficial to the survival of the human race we saw what happens in other countries when this mentality pervades a culture its not pretty and life gets pretty boring when there is only one point of veiw and story of reality the truth is their is no ultimate truth
hartejoseph 2 years ago
You're a cool cat. ma-uh-fuckuh!
ramalama246 2 years ago
thank you.
PaddyCuinne 2 years ago
Ah. Good point.
Very um, entertaining video. Interesting and funny.
obliviousninja 2 years ago
You're incredibly smart, which makes it all the more preposterous that with such common occurances as dreams (lucid and otherwise), OBEs, NDEs, Astral travel and the like you could still be atheist.
thoughtplacebo 2 years ago
I think it's the fact that we atheists like to argue that would lend us to missing Christianity (and the rest of the world's superstitions)
,,,Not the fact that we are atheists
We justs also happen to be people who like to argue!
funincluded 2 years ago 2
Without theists, a-theists a just a.
shawnhartnell 2 years ago
My first instinct is to refute that- despite it having nothing to do with arguing against theism
...that makes my point seem a little stronger to me
funincluded 2 years ago
That makes you a skeptic, not an atheist.
shawnhartnell 2 years ago
I slept with Faith, and found a corpse in my arms on awaking; I drank and danced all night with Doubt, and found her a virgin in the morning.
-- Aleister Crowley
:)
shawnhartnell 2 years ago
awesome
PaddyCuinne 2 years ago
What are you referring to when you say "that"?
it's kind of irrelevant, because my lack of a belief in God DOES make me an atheist :)
funincluded 2 years ago
Are you going to jump on the aghostist bandwagon as well, or take the smart road of the skeptic and doubt everything that smells funny?
shawnhartnell 2 years ago
Did you mean agnostic?
What are you talking about?
funincluded 2 years ago
In relation to you, Doubt in the above Crowley would respond :
"I slept with an atheist, and found him a one pump chump."
:)
I watched the Rejecting Atheism video you highlighted. Heh. Same message as nosy christians "The other side is a danger, and we are threatened by them."
Hell man, all you have to do is not eat the yellow snow. You don't have to hate it or define yourself by the fact you didn't.
shawnhartnell 2 years ago
You're either an idiot or a troll
what the fuck are you talking about?
funincluded 2 years ago
Nothing important. :) My apologies.
shawnhartnell 2 years ago
chill out.
PaddyCuinne 2 years ago
You can be an agnostic atheist. and its the best thing to be.
PaddyCuinne 2 years ago
Which is better, being agnostic or atheist or successful?
shawnhartnell 2 years ago
False trichotomy? :P i love arguing with you mate
PaddyCuinne 2 years ago
Point to Paddy.
I can only tell it as I see it and I'm concerned with what's useful and ideas worth knowing.
For that reason, religion seems like a toy to me. A good idea is like a shovel. Religion, a toy shovel.
shawnhartnell 2 years ago
not being dogmatic about anything dont close you mind to any knowledge or label yourself be a blank slate but be open but be prepared to break the slate
hartejoseph 2 years ago
oh i know don't worry.
PaddyCuinne 2 years ago
can be one in the same.
PaddyCuinne 2 years ago
Yeah :D
PaddyCuinne 2 years ago
This guy is weird... check out his channel
funincluded 2 years ago
me?
PaddyCuinne 2 years ago
No- shawnhartnell
...the guy who trying to sell everyone on becoming a skeptic as apposed to 'atheist'
funincluded 2 years ago
haha nicee.
PaddyCuinne 2 years ago
philosophy is debates. we like debates.
PaddyCuinne 2 years ago
I think we've all made the mistake at one point or another of blaming the religion, when it's actually the individual that is the problem. Anyone that does not question the dogma and doctrine is the problem. Religion in and of itself is fine.
tattooskin72 2 years ago
well said
PaddyCuinne 2 years ago
I find that people tend to blame religion and dogma and miss the point of following their own true will.
shawnhartnell 2 years ago
Quite brilliant.
This also shows, that you are intelligent.
I will send you some suggestions, which I think, might be interesting through PM.
allymetoo 2 years ago
awesome cant wait.
PaddyCuinne 2 years ago