Beliefnet Interviews Rick Warren on Gay Marriage

[unicoestilo]

rick warren is gay, and it would not surpise me to one day see him on the news being exposed by the openly gay member in his church.

this guy is a walking contradiction

[EternalSSA]

IT should insult a man's intelligence to even bring up that gay marriage is equivalent to a brother and sister marrying or an older man with a child. Rick you are surely an ignorant , blind, bigoted, egotistical moron.

[decidedvoter08]

Rick Warren.......are you married. Who is you wife. Have you been divorced? What side of the bed do you sleep on. Do you use the missionary style during sex?

None of these things are my business, neither is gay marriage Warren's business.

[mimana2]

I agree with Rick Warren. Gays want to get special rights where it doe not apply. Get real.  If my boyfriend wants to be with me and we need to share things, there are rule and laws that allow those things.

[ace8842]

He is exactly right, it is a free speech issue..gays are trying to take away the rights of anyone publicly to disagree with their lifestyle. It is not about tolerance, it is about forced acceptance.

[obamawill2008]

ass8842 you're right it's not about tolerance. it is about the full,complete and unconditional rights of lgbt folks

[EternalSSA]

Christians are braindead. Gays want equal rights, that's it. How does that take away rights from straights?

[ace8842]

You don't want someone's religion pushed on you, yet in Massachusetts, we see public tax dollars of citizens being used for pro-gay assemblies, reading "a King and King" to second graders, and numerous other pro gay activities that parents do not want hoisted on their child...someone trying to force their values on others. There are religious freedom of speech issues as well as an attempt to deny public funds to anyone who disagrees with homosexuality morally. It also redefines marriage.

[EternalSSA]

Religion forces its way upon us all even if we don't want it. I was raised catholic and was always around the church. No body asked me if i wanted that but they made me go.

There is nothing wrong with bringing up children without the old prejudiced and biased views. It will save alot of the gay youth who struggle their whole lives. The straight people are not going to be changed to be gay. You have too much fear and paranoia about this issue.

[whoo689]

Apparently Rick Warren forgets that one of Muhammad's marriages was to a SIX-YEAR-OLD girl named Aisshe. He "consummated" it when she turned 9, or so I hear. This is the "holy" prophet! Yet no Muslims talk about that, at least not in condemning terms. They excuse with moral relativist bullshit by saying "It was a different time." Yeah, yeah. They were misguided and stupid b/c they were backwards, and it was a diff. time, but they were still in the wrong.

[whoo689]

whoa! Rick Warren actually admitted there's something MORE of a threat to marriage than gays? Bout damn time. All his homophobic bullshit about how gays are the same as pedophiles or incestuous couples. 

Straights need to get their houses in order and drop the divorce rate before they go around denying the rights of gays. Pick the log out of your own eye before you attempt to take the speck out of someone else's.

[aleksapovseksa]

historically marriage is not a man and a woman

historically marriage is a man and as many women/girls as he wanted that he traded his property for, where everyone was the same race.

Marriage HAS been redefined

Interracial Marriage is Allowed

Women are no longer Property

Adults can no longer marry children

A man no longer has permission to abuse his wives

Numerous girls can not be sold off to one man

So far, marriage redefinitions have been good - why stop now?

[akaRubyHeart]

aleksapovseksa wrote: "Marriage HAS been redefined"

When Warren says he doesn't believe in the redefinition of marriage, he refers to a redefinition of the *original* definition -- the Creator's definition -- which the U.S. has adhered to for hundreds of years. You're correct that redefinitions thus far have been good, but that's because they were also designed to restore the original definition, that being between one man and one woman by mutual agreement.

[aleksapovseksa]

Fuck homophobia!

[ratpat]

So much for being a moderate...

[goodasyou]

He directly compares same-sex marriage to brother/sister, older person/underage person marriage. This tells you all you need to know about how Rick Warren views gay people.

[erwindale49]

Obviously we will continue to disagree. We start from different assumptions. You assert that "gay rights" spring from the equal protection clause. I disagree; I don't think the clause was intended to protect a supposed "right" that is the result of a moral choice - a choice you think is right, one that I think is wrong. Lastly, name calling does nothing for the discussion. Who you call "religious extremists" are simply people who have taken a moral stand based on Scripture.

[izrail23]

historically marriage is not a man and a woman

historically marriage is a man and as many women/girls as he wanted that he traded his property for, where everyone was the same race.

Marriage HAS been redefined

Interracial Marriage is Allowed

Women are no longer Property

Adults can no longer marry children

A man no longer has permission to abuse his wives

Numerous girls can not be sold off to one man

So far, marriage redefinitions have been good - why stop now?

[Easvo]

Slippery slope.

[drewj1969]

Rick Warren just lied. He said he supports full, equal rights for all, yet he supported prop 8 which stripped away gay people of their civil rights. Those two statements are in direct conflict with each other.

[erwindale49]

I suggest a different perspective, which I believe is more accurate. Prop 8 was put on the ballot because a single judge redefined "marriage" from the traditional definition. Prop 8 simply said the judge was unilaterally going against the will of the people. It addressed the state constitution so that it became a matter of legislation, not judicial fiat. So, rights were not "stripped away", they were never justifiably there. You may disagree, but gay marriage is not a constitutional "right."

[drewj1969]

Yes, the 4 judges did go against the will of the people which is their job when the will of the people is unconstitutional. Judges were not actively redefining marriage. All they did was overturn DOMA because it denied gay people rights in conflict with the equal protection clause. So it was due to the religious extremists who put DOMA on the ballot in the first place who pressed the issue. Ultimately, I'm sure equality will win out. This is the US where we have religious freedom.

[ratpat]

That's in no way an accurate depiction of what the California Supreme court ruled or what prop 8 means.

[danny458]

bigot

[blahdurka]

Why exactly is he a bigot? Because he doesn't agree with you? I may disagree with his views, but resorting to name-calling only makes our side look that much more foolish

[danny458]

ugh, he say he likes gays, but then he doesn't support prop8, those two don't mix. It's like saying, I like to help feed the homeless, but I don't want sleeping/staying in my neighborhood.