Tardive Dyskenysis

[unclegoatshow]

If you dont suffer from this you have no idea what you are risking, there is no relief ever!

[electroboyla]

Please visit ABILIFY KILLS on YouTube.

ABILIFY is a medication that can cause TD.

[MsAgnosticatheist]

@electroboyla Yes, i took it for about a week and had early signs of TD, I stopped taking it after my boyfriend started making fun of me, it was harmless jokes. I found after 10 years of being misdiagnosed with bipolar and having Anti-Psychotics forced on me, I didn't even have bipolar but BPD. BPD isn't even treatable with medications. 10 years of drugs for nothing, it could have been worse though. Don't trust PHD's, they don't give a shit about you only the freebies they get from Pharma.

[xXgreenHonuXx]

People wouldn't tell a diabetic to skip their insulin, however idiots turn out in droves to tell the mentally ill that a nice walk in the park is all they need to cure mental illness.

No thanks, I know what I am like off of meds.

[bIasius]

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[RSinton]

I'm currently taking an Abnormal Psychology class and came on youtube to investigate T.D. because it sounded like something I had seen as a kid. I also have a particular interest in schizophrenia because a cousin of mine developed it when we were both fairly young, she has chronic disorganized type. Also, T.D. is often irreversible, that's what the textbook says. It doesn't always stop with cessation of the medication.

[Talese70]

I have bipolar with quite severe depressive episodes that can last for months. My manic episodes are mild, and to be honest, they can be quite helpful when studying, etc. I mostly keep my symptoms under control with exercise and counseling. If, however, my manic symptoms were to worsen, I'd be glad to have some relief through medication.

Saying you're against psychiatry because of WWII is like saying you're against science because of the atom bomb.

[pgartier]

@Talese70 Hey genius. Have you ever been admitted to a psych ward? You sound like a spokesperson for eli lilly. Your medication relief for bipolar disorder is a sham. Mood stabilizers are just another name for anticonvulsant which supresses the nervous system. Aka your slow after you take these meds. The whole field of psychiatry is involved in drugging the patient. "if the patient doesn't learn that there's nothing wrong with him we kill him" Dr behzad akhami

[Talese70]

@pgartier Have you ever been admitted to a psych ward? And how would you know how any medication I take effects me? I have taken medications for depression and bi-polar through my life, and have stopped when they were no longer needed, or if specific ones didn't work for me. So if people want them, they should have access, and if they don't, then don't take them. It's a choice. Who are you to take away someone's choice for medication? What's your experience with psych meds...genius?

[pgartier]

@Talese70 Trust me you wouldn't be studying anything if your were in need of bipolar meds. I could see the holes in your story from a mile away. Oh and by the way the harm associated with these drugs is not even talked about when the patient is given the meds . If this woman knew she would have this problem would she have taken the meds? It's like you forgot what video you're commenting on. By the way you coincidentally glossed over psychiatries not so secret secret at the end there.

[Talese70]

@pgartier I was commenting on people suggesting all psychiatric medications are bad. If you think a bi polar on meds can't study, you're just speaking on something you are uneducated and ignorant about. I know quite a few people who are doing just that. I can't justify wasting more time trying to get someone who has an uneducated opinion some idea of how stupid some of their statements are.

[MsAgnosticatheist]

@Talese70 Ask yourself is it worth it? Is it worth it to have unbearable and painful uncontrolled movements for the rest of your life? The psychiatric field is a scam. Many people including me are being diagnosed with depression and bipolar type II, and are being given anti-psychotics. It's absolute bullshit. Don't think that it can't happen to you. I was taking Abilify and started to get uncontrollable muscle twitches in my face and tongue. It isn't worth it in the slightest.

[TitaniaRaqs]

To MikeyRGuitar - Tardive Dyskinesia is usually NOT permanent.. it normally resolves after cessation of medication.

[arainade]

People with SEVERE mania or schizophrenia should be prescribed the most effective medication with the least amount of side effects. What's the problem? Drs. are now prescribing antipsychotics for everying from just depression to anxiety! It pisses me off! I was given a few Anit-P's and one, Abilify, gave me early symptoms of TD! I stopped after 3 days. I know many people with mild depression and anxiety being prescribed anti-p when they are not even for that! This needs to stop!

[gabbygarbo09]

What happened to this woman? My mother is suffering from some similar movements and we are wondering what to expect????

[mykstor]

I've suffered a very sore pallet and gums for nearly three years. I was given Geodon (Pfizer) not for psychosis, but only as an adjunct to depression treatment with Cymbalta. I assumed one of my meds caused me dry mouth. I presented to at least 3 doctors, one an oral specialist. NO ONE diagnosed my condition. I thought my tongue was "playing" with my mouth because it was sore. I never knew it was the CAUSE.

Doctors, warn your patients to watch for SORE MOUTH and recognize its cause!

[iphoria]

I say we take all these meds off the market for 5 years. We can then check the number of people who've committed suicide, or gotten so psychotic they've became completely dysfunctional. Also, let's do it with vaccines. 1800s medicine, here we come.

[Nabbles60]

This is lawyered video (made by lawyer). Insurance checked cured this person.

[PoisonLipz18]

I overdosed on some risperidal 40mg and I got the same thing but worse. And my eyeballs were also moving by themselves. One time I could only look to the upper left corner with both eyes and the other I could only look to the lower left corner. The doctors and nurses didnt say anything about it. They just said I was feeling anxious.

[spookylocopv]

i was on geodon i stopped taking it back in 2005, my dr gave it too me.. gave me shortness of breath, but it could of been my anxiety attacks too but dam im glad i stopped taking it... only took it for 2 weeks

[kaloopsk4]

oh i pitty this woman is it like a tourette syndrome or relative to this kind of disorder?

[queenjazz1]

dang that REALLY sucks...my teacher told me to look this up

[bkbrom]

@queenjazz1 yeah Mine too.

[GracieAnimas]

Developed TD in 2006 after 2 months 60 mg Geodon. fenster...would love to compare notes with your wife.

[Lehmann108]

@GracieAnimas Geodon is a shit drug.

[PaleBunnyBaconEater]

@Lehmann108 I know a dude that took Geodon and (i swear to god I am not kidding) his dick turned black, they went to ER, and end of story is his penis basically died and he'll never have sex again. He's only around 30. That really really really sucked.

[emmkf98]

The5t0ne0fDaniel2 - fuck you. You have no idea how painful it is to have TD or akathisia. It's truly hell on earth. I hope you rot in Hell, after you have experienced these horrible neurological disorders.

[LavaMountainKat]

hope she recovers from this because she is hawt and i wanna lick her pussy

[MiNaDaNiE]

lol

[OghamTheBold]

Can't believe she said Botox

[jamjamyjam]

Thank you kcht6 I called the doctor and iinsisted she make an appointment for my son to see a neurologist wel I have an appointment for october 19,2009.

she told me she dont know what tardive dyskinesia is so i got information off the internet and gave it to her.

will keep you posted if this doctor cant diagnose my son I will take him to another doctor for a second opinion.

she took him off the reglan in august of 2009 but he is also on promethazine another medicine that cause tardive.

[TXRebelOK]

Can you please keep me updated with your sons status? I am going to medical school to be a neurosurgeon and I am interested in these types of neurological disorders.

[jamjamyjam]

Hi TXRebelOK my son is still have tics they are getting worst I took him to see a Neurologist and he said people with tardive have severe tics and they move constantly I disagree there are certain levels of tardive I am trying to learn how to up load videos on youtube I want to put a video of him so everybody can see the constant eye movements and his head is constantly jerking sweating and stretching he is always still and he take baclofen four times a day thank you for being concerned.

[jamjamyjam]

I have a son who is profound mentally retarded, hydrocephalic,seizure disorder, legally blind and have a feeding tube and he is non ambulatory he is 38 years old.

he started taking reglan and promethazine four years ago I've been telling his doctor for three years he all the symptoms of tardive.

you are suppose to stay on reglan three months everytime I tell her about tardive she says I dont know what it is this is whst it is ticks, blinking eyes, and he makes faces,and stick out his tongue.

[kcht6]

jamjamyjam - Please see another doctor. You know your son and your doctor is not listening to you , and should know about T.D. Good luck to you and your boy.

[wendy3711]

omg...it's hard to hear but it sounds like this lady is saying that she is much more able to function from taking psychdrugs. Does she have any idea what she is doing with her face?

[22reTOYOTA]

It happens with Thorazine,Navane,and Haldol. The drug cogentin or benydril will stop it. It really is no fun. All you want to do is move your muscles all the time and you cant sit still.

[cjshamrock]

Stelazine as well.

[22reTOYOTA]

I took stelazine for about a week back in 1997. Did not have any effects,except for just being real tired. Today Im taking the right combo and life is tolerable.

[YouKidsNever]

And the botox is not a solution; people have developed botulism after botox treatment.

[JaySyril]

Extrapyramidal Effect. Well, its either deal with the faces or deal with the psychosis. Believe me, if you've ever worked with a schizophrenia patient, you'd opt for the faces to, any day .

PharmD

[The5t0ne0fDaniel2]

you should be punched in your face

[dorkrock13]

the thing shes doing with her face is what tardrive dyskenysia is... uncontrolled movements of the face such as in the video.

[christolz]

its fucking horrible! do the docs tell u this?

i just saw the "Masks of madness" video's on youtube and margo kidder from superman was cured of schizophrenia by doing Abram Hoffers nutritional program. what he did was gradually wean them from pycho drugs and give them massive doses of Vitimin C, vit b3, vitb6, zinc, manganese and loads of good good nutritional food. nothing artificial cause schizo people are very sensitive to chemicals and need proper nutrition. margo is cured luv abram hoffer

[351460]

The majority of prescription drugs have side effects--some worse than the condition they are intended to treat. In the vast majority of cases one would be much better off doing their own research to find natural remedies for conditions rather than using the poisons drug companies develop.

[pineappleupside]

I wouldn't say the vast majority have natural remedies esp when it comes to mental health issues where antipsychotics are used.

[hottamalia]

from wikipedia:

A study being conducted at the Yale University School of Medicine has estimated that 32% of patients develop persistent tics after 5 years on major tranquilizers, 57% by 15 years, and 68% by 25 years.[7] Other estimates suggest that with each year of neuroleptic use, 5% of the patients will show signs of tardive dyskinesia,.

[hottamalia]

After being on 2 mg's Risperdal for a year, my leg muscle started contracting and my finger would move side to side involuntarily.

[MikeyRGuitar]

as well, many people will avoid taking their meds so as not to develop this disease.

[0720122013]

yeah i know it's as scary as SHIT that's why i hate having to take my ABILIFY!

[laurenmsu]

While this woman's case is incredibly unfortunate, it is worth mentioning that this is not how most people react to antipsychotics like Geodon. If it was, these drugs would not be prescribed. Most people taking antipsychotics (including myself) do not develop TD. I really hate it when people are incredibly against psychiatry based on incredibly biased information from the media. Read some empirical studies before forming such vehement opinions.

[MikeyRGuitar]

30% of long time users get it. (Chong, Mehandren et al. 2002) that's a fairly large number

Fenton, 2000

Glazer, 2000

[Suzisqueue]

80% of people who take anti-psychotics for two years or longer will develop tardive dystonia or tardive dyskenesia of some kind. The newer anti-psychotics are no safer than the older neuroleptics.

Trust me - I'm like this poor woman in this video. It is torture, and I thought I was sick before. LOL

Don't take anti-psychotics! Please, please, please!

[o10139kea]

@MikeyRGuitar Users of What? Genius.

[ImaCactusHugMe]

@o10139kea Users of anti-psychotic drugs. It damages the basal ganglia in the brain which is important for movement. 

[jacobbis4lovers]

@MikeyRGuitar I started experiencing involuntary muscle twitches when I was taking Geodon but I stopped taking it a month ago and still get twitches every now and then, but it has slowed down since I stopped taking it. I honestly don't think it's worth it. I would rather hear voices and see things than get TD.

[PaleBunnyBaconEater]

@laurenmsu shut up, you're crazy anyway.

[maxou5757]

OMG poor her

[terratagONE]

What these psych drugs companys get away with experimenting on people they should be shot.Tardive diskenesia is something these Drs an drugs companys have know about since the 1970's the bastards.

[torturedbydrugs]

I will devote my life to writing books and poems about the true horrors of psychiatry. Going after little kids. Calling molested children future violent sex offenders to force them on drugs. Their reign of terror must end.

Drugging foster children because they have taxpayer supported Medicare that doctors can bankrupt. These doctors tried to bankrupt my insurance policy while my insurance said I wasn't ill.

[torturedbydrugs]

I just got a dvd day before yesterday about what is supposed to be a psychotic disorder. I most definitely did not have one. All my posts are being silenced. I guess the doctors are trying to hide the fact that everyone who walks into their office will be labeled psychotic and started on drugs that make them blind.They are turning all these people into activists, so now they must go label some kids who can't speak out like I can.

[torturedbydrugs]

My heart goes out to you. I don't believe any of the stereotypes about any psychiatric label anymore since they made up so many lies and negative false predictions about me. I would have to agree that psychiatrists have probably destroyed your career by turning you into a freak show who won't be accepted into the workplace now. I was a freak show too. My tardive disorders were so freaky people asked me about it. I have a computer science degree but they tried to stop me from getting it.

[torturedbydrugs]

I couldn't find any lawyer on contingency to help me. They basically are rude to the point where they even said the hospital could attack me and suffocate me because of my psychiatric label when I was too hypothyroid to respond when being spoken to.

[torturedbydrugs]

I have heard people getting td from 20mg of Geodon. My blindness went away when the dose was lowered, but nazi-like doctors like F jay pepper said, "Deal with it, I am not going to lower your dose." I begged him to lower my dose so I could read and do my job, but he didn't care, because he can make alot of money drugging people who will end up blind and they have no conscience whatsoever. It is they who are the dangerous delusional people, not me. I did nothing bad to anyone.

[torturedbydrugs]

I got tardive dyskinesia rapid eye blinking blindness so bad that people noticed without me saying anything and asked me what was wrong with my eyes. I got it from the 140mg dose of Geodon that Dr. David Zimmer prescribed. He is just like a nazi, accusing the people he prescribed these drugs for to be dangerous people and he always interogated me for murderes he felt I was capable of when I am completely innocent. He is a nazi like drug dealer. He shouldn't be allowed to call himself a Jew.

[JaySyril]

Placing a doctor's name on YouTube is unethical. Frankly, your tone is an indicative of someone who needs the maximum dose. The racial comments aren't needed and besides, this is America, freedom of choice includes choosing your doctors.

[PaleBunnyBaconEater]

@JaySyril Nothing unethical about posting the name of someone who gave you a service you were dissatisfied with. You think that person sounds like someone who needs the maximum dose, but, they sound like another whiny accusatory self pitying jew to me. Jews talk about each other like that all the time. You're right it is america, and freedom to complain as well. Many insurances will not allow change of doctor midtreatment, so fuck you.

[fenster67]

This is certainly wierd. I posted this video about two years ago. I have seen my video of my wife get downloaded somehow and then uploaded again by someone else. This user, oscetube, somehow got this video and uploaded it himself.

To answer the question of which drug?

Geodon is the drug that gave her this movement disorder. She has Tardive Diskenesia and Tardive Distonia.

It is very sad when a doctor overprescribes this medication- this is what happens.

[kevagonia]

is this symptom painful?

[fenster67]

very. I am her husband.  It is totally disabling.

[kevagonia]

I've seen it in geriatrics, med induced. Don't remember the circumstances. Haven't really seen it much since, maybe once. How is it you're her husband, posting on this video someone else posted?

[SteveSchlotterer]

I won't dispute that people have mental problems, but the concept of mental illness today as it's expoused by psychiatry is bullshit. Nobody knows why people have mental problems, yet psychiatrist treat people with these dangerous drugs that cause brain damage or death. Pisses me off....

People should be informed of all the potential side effects upfront, and drugs should only be used as a last resort. Only the person with the problem should be allowed make the decision.

[OzTerri]

steve i agree. meds are prescribed without knowing whether the side effects will cause worse problems. it's a "hit and miss" let's try this one let's try that one ... experimental .. oh, hell that didn't work ..

[SteveSchlotterer]

Yeah, this experimentation and the damage it sometimes causes could be perceived as a violation of a doctor's hippocratic oath (to above all, do no harm). I've discovered that many people are treating their schizophrenia, bipolar, depression, and other mental disorders with vitamins, minerals, amino acids, and herbs. Apparently people are getting much better outcomes with this approach. It's called orthomolecular psychiatry. The only problem is that nutraceuticals aren't covered by insurance

[kevagonia]

I am a skeptic, but perhaps you could refer me to a good source on this. Unfortunately, there will not be any real evidence-based research or trials as these would be people treating themselves.

[kevagonia]

or do nothing?

[OzTerri]

doing nothing makes no sense at all

[bryanbabylon]

"pretty frustrating problem?"

fucking assholes. Im on Geodon.

[roterferrari1155]

ntwater,

the mental illness exists just like other illnesses, but other illnesses are not treated against the patients will!! Imagine, performing forced operation on someone with an enlarged prostate. Go figure, armchaircriticboy :))

[ratluvr]

My sister is shaky as a result of her medicine, and the doctor didn't warn us about this condition. We're taking her off the medication, but if her shakiness persists or gets worse, we're going to sue!

[M1thotyn]

"we're going to sue!" Goodluck with that, you'll get nowhere. On the other hand, if she just got fat and joined a class action lawsuit then you'd be good to go. But psychiatry and big pharma have wrecked at least 20 million (The most conservative scientific estimate, google "Bob whitaker daniel kriegman neuroleptics") lives and get away scott free. They are protected, they *ARE* the power. Unless you plan on using force, you'll get no justice.

[kevagonia]

probably much like the lobotomized?

[chad410]

i know somebody who took a low dose anti pychotic and got their arm in a n uncomfortable position and couldn t swallow. couldn t walk properly . took a lot for doctors to believe i think.

[starrybel]

i got that really bad from haldol and had to be hospitalized

[Grapejuice22]

For me this is an eye opener that antipsycotics can be just as dangerous as street drugs to a persons health.

And seeing the side effects makes me understand exactly why a paranoid person might refuse to take their meds or acuse people of trying to poison them!

But I sort of agree that if the benefit outweighs the harm then its kind of ok i guess.

Also a person shouldnt decide themselves if they need an anti psycotic it should be up to a psyciatric doctor to decide.

[chad410]

some react terribly on very low doses and getting the doctors to believe . i know somebody who s arm almost bent back like wierdly and couldn t swallow and walk on the smallest dose of anti pschotic meds. in fact most of them. especially the the new meds. perhaps some can t tolerate any amount of the meds.

[M1thotyn]

"

Also a person shouldnt decide themselves if they need an anti psycotic it should be up to a psyciatric doctor to decide."

What a great POV you have. Let the psychiatrist decide. Let's just go ahead and make anybody with a degree in medicine our rulers. Let's make modern medicine our religion and doctors our priests and pills our prayer and just give it all the power in the world. There is no such thing as schizophrenia, an nearly all severe mental illness is caused by the drugs to treat it.

[tedhuntington]

My MOm had tartive disconesia, and it's terrible. It is so sad to see somebody suffering from td, and to know that it's all from pseudoscience and experimental drugging.

[WileyTuten]

This is very sad. And WHO is RESPONSIBLE for this? I have a friend who used to shoot up Meth and Heroin ALL the time. 6 months at a time. His body works. He could take 20 Vicadins at the same time and he wouldn't care about his liver. Again, his body works. This woman's body does not. WHO is RESPONSIBLE for this? He's taken 30-50 hits of LSD at the same time. His body works. Hers does NOT. I've been prescribed neurolpetics in my past. Did they tell me about this risk? Never. Not one.

[fenster67]

hi, i am her husband. It is rather interesting to see these threads. My wife now has tardive distonia as well.

[GracieAnimas]

@fenster67

Developed TD in 2006 after 2 months 60 mg Geodon. Have repeatedly watched your video. Would love to compare notes with your wife.

[AgainstPsychiatry]

This woman has developed Tardive Dyskinesia from taking commonly prescribed psychiatric drugs. This drug induced disability is caused by neurological damage, it is characterized by involuntary movements, and it is generally irreversible. Every year that someone is on a neuroleptic (commonly referred to as antipsychotic) drug, such as Geodon, Seroquel, Haldol, or Zyprexa, they have a 5% chance of developing this permanent drug induced disability.

[salarhazany]

Your knowledge of TD and its epidemiology leads me to believe that you are an intelligent person... The reason that any medical treatment is given to a patient is because the benefits clearly outweigh the risks. More than 50% of schitzophrenic patients attempt suicide, often times during post-psychotic depression or when having hallucinations "commanding" them to harm themselves. 10% of those die in the attempt. 5% chance of TD, oh please.

[KungFu17]

it is unfortunate that drugs are the answer - there needs to be more than two options - drugs or death. part of the reason there aren't many other options is because drug companies like money and influence politics with money, and people are not willing to say this is unacceptable often enough.

[carlosfavielfont]

You seem to have it all figured out, why don't you bring us the cure?

[KungFu17]

I don't have it figured out, but I do have a clear understanding of what research in psychology is still needed and would be helpful to mental health consumers. The idea of a cure for mental illnesses is a bit naive. And truly, this is why I am going into psychology, which will help more than your smartass comments on youtube.

[fenster67]

Amen to you. I am the person in this video. My IQ is 142. Had an illustrious career. Psychosis was mild and occ. about 6 times in 3 yrs. I am now a research-aholic on the topic of neuroleptics and TD. Have degrees in Psych. FYI :DRS DO NOT HAVE TO REPORT ADVERSE EFFECTS REGARDLESS OF SEVERITY TO THE FDA. State Boards govern Drs, not the FDA. Therefore FDA does not get data they need post marketing. You can go directly to a drug mnuf. and/ or FDA &read actual clin. trails. mindblowing. WRITE BACK

[AgainstPsychiatry]

People who take these drugs don't have a 5% chance of developing Tardive Dyskinesia. It's 5% a year, after 5 years on these drugs, 1 in 4 will have it. Most people who are given these neuroleptic drugs are not Schizophrenic. In the USA 38% of people under the age of 20 who take these drugs are taking them for "a disruptive behavior disorder" such as ADHD. I was labeled with Schizophrenia myself. After 6 years drug free, I am also nearly symptom free. Thank God I did not get Tardive Dyskinesia.

[AgainstPsychiatry]

Emotional problems are often temporary, but Tardive Dyskinesia is usually permanent. Doctors prescribing these drugs to young people, like this woman, are throwing away their chance for a healthy future. These drugs are increasingly given for everything from Autism to Insomnia to Bipolar to Anorexia. Studies show even people labeled as "severely mentally ill" with Schizophrenia, have a higher recovery rate when when treated without Neuroleptic drugs. The drugs are popular for financial reasons.

[kashifk9]

@AgainstPsychiatry no offense but are you a scientologist?

[mayarain]

@kashifk9 There are many people out there against psychiatry that are not scientologists.

For one, I am a Neo-Pagan, and extremely anti-psychiatry.

Just think of all the consumer/psychiatric survivors out there, they have survived horrible inhumane treatment and are no doubt probably anti-psychiatry. Some may have turned to scientology, but most have not. Btw, Psychiatrist DID start and help with WWII, Eugenics, look it up. It's just a simple fact.

-ANTIPSYCHIATRY

[QueenAnime99]

@mayarain Being against psychiatry just because some psychiatrists did bad things is like being against all pagans because some pagans did bad things. Psychiatry is not perfect, but it helps people to have normal lives. It is okay to be against bad psychiatry/psychiatrists; that makes perfect sense. But to be against psychiatry as a whole is irrational. Without psychiatry there would be a lot of people suffering from disorders they have no control over otherwise.

[TomekTQ]

@mayarain "Psychiatrist DID start and help with WWII" That is the most ridiculous shit I've read on YouTube in a while, and that's saying a lot. Only a complete and utter moron with no knowledge of history would say something like that.

If you're _not_ a scientologist then you really have no excuse: at least they can always say they were brainwashed into believing idiotic things.

[PaleBunnyBaconEater]

@mayarain Yeah so what are you going to do with all the people who have schizophrenia, paranoid schizophrenia, severe bi polar disorder, etc.? Also Eugenics is NOT a psychiatric study you stupid twat, it's a stupid of GENETICS. There's plenty of people who don't see psychiatrists, you see them on the fucking street eating garbage out of cans with maggots in their infected foot wounds. The inhuman treatment comes from not getting treated when you need it.

[antiviral8]

@AgainstPsychiatry an obligated bad thing, problem is detect the true cases when antipsicotics is going to do a good job

[pharmacopious]

@AgainstPsychiatry How many people do you know with schizophrenia? Did you actually listen to what this woman is saying about how much antipsychotics improved her ability to live?

Yes these drugs are immensely flawed: they have awful side effects. But when you know people with schizophrenia and realise that most are not able to cope with day to day life, even with a risk benefit analysis, the use of these drugs can be justified. That is how ill these people are, you profoundly naive person.

[sexybrown5]

@AgainstPsychiatry U sound ridiculous-u must b a scientologist. Have u seen a person suffering fr: Schizophrenia, Bipolar, Depression, or any mental illness W/O medication? U should do research. These individuals, many times, suffer fr: debilitating, terrifying, & uncontrolable delusions, illusions, & hallucinations. WHAT studies show persons w/severe mental illness having a higher recovery rate w/o neuroleptic drugs?

[sexybrown5]

@AgainstPsychiatry First of all these individuals never ''truely'' recover. Only through treatment (psychological and pharmalogical) do they learn to better MANAGE their symptoms-sometimes they never go away. Even then there may be episodes of exacerbations and remissions. So you don't see the value in these types of medications? Ok-then lock yourself in a room with a severe and untreated paranoid schizophrenic...will change your mind...and probably your life!LOL

[arainade]

@AgainstPsychiatry The drugs are popular for financial reasons and corruption. Abilify now has a commercial stating it is good for an 'addon' to treat depression. WTF? Guess what Pot is a better addon for depression and it doesn't cause fatal horrible side effects nor turn you into a zombie. I took Abilify for my depression and guess what? I started to develop TD symptoms within days. My face started twitching and my tongue like this lady describes. DO NOT TAKE THEM unless you have too!

[ssdiforlife]

They are probably killing themselves because they got tardive dyskinesia.I got it and couldn't read anymore until my dose was lowered alot because I was blinking 200 times a minute which prevented me from focusing. Taking these drugs increases the risk of suicide. I know at least four schizophrenics and bipolar people who never took the drugs and they never had a suicide attempt and they all are happy and not on ssdi.

[SteveSchlotterer]

So what if we kill ourselves? As long as I'm not hurting anyone else, I should be allowed to die whenever I want to. People say that usually a person will change their minds if their attempt is unsuccessful, and think it's better that they lived. That certainly doesn't mean that our original idea to kill ourselves wasn't invalid.

[SteveSchlotterer]

So what if we want to kill ourselves? You don't have the right to stop anyone from killing themself, as long as they aren't harming anyone else in the process of their attempt. You should read the book, "Fatal Freedom" by Thomas Szasz, M.D., for more on this position....

[fenster67]

BUT, if the dosage is twice the recommended amount, and for 18 months, the chance of getting TD is almost guaranteed. That is what happened here. Recommended dosage is no more than 160 - she was given 240.