Yeah, this guy is such total fag for using a hydraulic hammer! REAL sword-smiths don't use tongs either. They carry the steel between their butt-cheeks and hammer the sword into shape with their balls...
Its a hydraulic hammer it works exactly like hammering except its faster not everyone has the strength to do it by hand if we didn't have these most of those nice swords wouldn't exist.
I don't want a factory made Sword.... I want a sword that came from a strong hearted humble spirited passionet Black Smith ... I would want my Sword to have spirit
Dude, I don't even consider this "Factory Made", this is more Semi-factory. I mean they still moulded it in a way nobody could ever replicate, they just simply used something to take the load off of them.
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Is there any Video at all that shows a Sword being forged from the folded steel. This video like all the videos don't show him stretching the whole blade out. I know it is somehow a secret for every bladesmith HOW he does it. But there must be someone showing it ^^?
@hame505 How much do you wanna bet you're wrong. First, they sure as hell don't look Japanese. Second, the language (pretty sure its a Chinese dialect) that was spoken definitely wasn't Japanese. And third, though its a dying art, no self respecting Japanese "craftsman" would make a sword with a hydraulic hammer. I would know this because I am Japanese.
Awsome hey u guys I take handmades side if it's yours if I made a sword for myself hand made by far but for someone else I would have a fricken robot do it for me check out my mini carving tool I forged when I was fourteen and just posted it now
To be honest a hand forged sword would be better due to the fact that you can make the strikes harder or softer and it really depends on the steel used a good ore is hard to come by now and for all those people spending months arguing get a life no one really cares just take the method you like and live with it I prefer hand forged and yes forging is an art form art isn't beautiful it's delicate which forging is one wrong strike and the blade can crack and be rendered useless
@frackcha yes but you cant alter the angles as much as you can by hand but to be honest i dont give a damn no one uses them anymore to my dissapointment but i would still rather forge by hand but each to there own i think if you prefer a style then go with it
@LittleJamesL have you done much smithy work?? i can tell you it takes as much skill to use a power hammer, as it does to hand strike... even old fashioned smiths used assistance in the form of strikers, wielding sledge hammers, but they had to be paid, a power hammer just needs to be bought, and plugged in. using a power hammer is just common sense...
come on, even if you have modern tools, the quality of the end product it is still down to the skill and experience of the wielder of the tools. This is just a hammer, a really bigarse hammer, it still need to be wielded and operated by a skilled craftsman like any other tool. I suspect these blades are superior to the ones hammered by hand, but yes i do appriciate things that are made 100% by hand, but times have changed, thats all. It takes skill and know how even if you have a bigger hammer.
In using a hammer of that nature, you could achieve a higher volume of work, meaning in the same time a hand hammered sword could be made could make and even more refined sword using a machine. The mystical magical air surrounding hand made swords is built of the knowledge gained through the labor intesive process originally required to make the sword. A machine that manipulates electrons and could build a sword that has harmonic resonance, able to cut through plate steel would be marvelous.
I am very impressed with your craftsmanship this sword is a thing of beauty and I was just wondering a few things. First how long did it take you to make that sword and do you take custom orders
@amishdude they aren't folded a million times, commonly they are folded 8-16 times which would end up being 512-65,536 layers. you can do it by hand (with helpers) but there is no reason not to use a power hammer, the sword doesn't know the difference. they have been standard in most shops since the late 1800's.
@Breathor A motorized hammer is just to save the labor of assistant swinging the heavy hammer. The question should be about if not welding together small pieces of metal is done to save on labor cost because this is more critical to the micro-structure of the steel. The variations in the steel of the blade are of critical importance.
@TheKingdomofErnor Well you see, before they had HYDRAULICS and MACHINERY... blacksmiths used HAMMERS.... ya know... the TRADITIONAL way.... jackass xD
@TheKingdomofErnor Alright lets see, Blacksmithing was an art because the hardest part (and im taking this from my experience as a smith) is hammering the steel. The hammer and anvil is what makes blacksmithing .. blacksmithing. when you throw hydraulic machinery in there it ceases to be an artform and becomes MANUFACTURING. feel better? you stupid fuck
@Breathor You can call any asinine thing you want an "artform". Chances are, these people don't give a shit about making art. They are smithing, not painting.
You mystify scientific technique to give it inane titles like "art", when it's made to serve a practical purpose. (So you're an idiot)
@TheKingdomofErnor Go forge a sword better then them then come back here and tell me it dosnt take an artistic feel and masters touch. you fail AGAIN Mr. Science... also, urmad. gg
There is no full time swordsmith that I know of who doesn't use either a spring hammer (like most japanese bladesmiths) or an air hammer. Before these were used a smith had the help of either a team of strikers or a mechanical hammer driven by a waterwheel. Especially with pattern welded swords, or tamahagane swords , which are folded, it is near impossible to do all the work alone, you would end up with a heap of scale and almost no metal left.
@Breathor got to remember, if your a swordsmith, your going to have a long time, hurting with your arm, saves his arm from being fucked up later in life, hes smart
@Breathor have you ever blacksmithed? and seen the difference between using a hammer by hand or that? Until you actually do this work dont go dissing on something that makes the word easier and better.
@RoninAvenger I smith every day. have been for about 2 years now. in my opinion the artform and skill of a blacksmith comes from the old fashioned methods, not modern tools. and if you have any more smartass comments leave me your email and ill show you pictures of the swords, axes, and knives ive forged :D. have a good day.
@shhnk6 completely understood, i know it works the same. but to me its more of a modern shortcut, i just dont like the modern ways of blacksmithing. i admire the skill and care it took to do the same thing with a hammer and anvil.
Dude, just understand that if the true blacksmiths of the past eras ever came across something even remotely close to this they would ALL be using it. Nobody would choose a manual hammer and anvil over an automatic hammer and anvil ever. Not these days n'or the past days. Same skill and care, just less exaustion. I mean really, how much skill does it actually take to beat hot metal as hard as you can?
@Sonicrega it takes ALOT of skill and if you know the history of the real japanese sword you would know owning one is like owning fine art ture blacksmith have to connect with the metal. i could go on but you get the point its a art work.
@Sonicrega Watch the discoveries documentary on making a katana they still use hand tools and stones over hydraulics. The point of forging these days is not only the quality but the feeling. Taking time just makes the wait worth while. By the way the guy in that video is the pro of this world his katanas sell for millions he can easily afford this hy-tec crap but he still uses a hammer.
I'm not talking about "these days", I'm talking about "the past eras". Back THEN they would've used these machines, THAT's what I'm saying. I don't care if people still use hand tools and stones over them, that's their personal choice. I KNOW if you work harder at something you'll feel better about it. But still swords were INITIALLY ment for battle only, alright?
OMG, that's EXACTLY what a sword is for! To kill people! I'm not denying that they're sacred, because anything you create I believe should be kept sacred. But as I keep saying, the sword's initial purpose, therefore TRUE purpose is to kill another person.
@Sonicrega what your'e reffering to as "beating hot metal as hard as you can" is actually a piece of art, you cant just go in the garage find a piece of metal use a hammer and bang bang it to make a sword it take quite a lot of effort to to so you have to carefully make pattern by only smelt in a very special way and it takes alot of lifting and grinding, please shut the hell up.
UGH!!! Obviously it's a piece of art, you DO create something out of it, it is YOUR work when you make it. I know what forging is, which means I also know what forging swords is. Dude, just...think about what I said... -_-
@Breathor There is no "skill" involved with simply beating the hammer, dummy. Who the hell convinced you otherwise? TV? Maybe you watch too much of it.
this is the real stuff... I had a friend who had a sword that was completely forge-sharpened and that thing would zip through a 2x4 with no problems, one handed... the real thing is so much better than that lazer-sharpened-machine-forged-from-billet crap
@konklaven what I can't hear you ....... i did work with a blacksmith he was a top bloke ,but started every sentence with WHAT and finished it with WHAT ?
@konklaven not so much this is more like the ones you would see for sale in a knife shop. real samurai swords can take up to ten years to make or more now that craftsmanship lol
@TheLunatic1011 Study and research before commenting. Katana has nothing to do with Korean sword. Curved sword Katana was created and developed in Japan. Korea has imported them in 17th century.
@Daviysoh due to geological location of japan, everything in japan had to come through Korean peninsula and so did the swords.
although the form of 'katana' which is shaped and formed in japan, it still is one of many variation came from the first sword made with bronze long time ago, and before the katana, there was korea.
Korean sword named 'Hwando(환도)' is what Katana has variated from(well, Hwando it self is another variation though)
@TheLunatic1011 It's true that bronze straight sword or cast iron sword came from China, but Japan created own method of 'tatara' iron making and curved style (which has not be able to be seen in any countries) by itself way before 'Hwando' had been made in Korea. Because Japan stopped learning from China by 9th century. Besides importing them through Korea doesn't mean 'from' Korea. Korean sword also originated in China.
I always thought all my RAYBAN shades I bought were hand made by Italian, the fact it all the parts were made in China, and all the parts cost for pair of shares are less than 12 USD.
Strictly speaking, it's a Japanese style Chinese sword. If it's made in China, then it's a Chinese sword. That doesn't imply lesser quality, or something. It's just how English works as a language.
@iliteritmonkey That's actually completely different. An American flag is an American flag because it's the Flag of the USA. I won't bother to go on, because as your username suggests, you seem to be illiterate.
@TheKingdomofErnor, you said "if its made in china, then its a Chinese sword." following this logic if a flag were to be made in china, and said flag had a blue rectangle in the upper left hand corner, and this rectangle had fifty white stars in it, and the rest of the flag consisted of 13 alternating stripes of red and white, would that be considered a Chinese flag? NO.
@iliteritmonkey It would be a Chinese American Flag, obviously. Like a Spanish guitar made in China is a Chinese Spanish Guitar. "American Flag" is basically the name of the object.
@TheClockStrikes13 It's a type of clay (some-times infused w/ powdered diamonds.. or so I'v heard), that helps to hold the tempering process, as well as adding to the 'wavy' hammon pattern along the cutting edge. as well as being a laminate (aka damascus) steel, the edge is harder,while the interior ofthe blade is 'softer' and more flexible
@Saladon89 Not true. Some genuine Japanese swords in the old time were made out of European steels. During the conquest of Manchuria in the early 20th century, some swords gained particular reputations of being made out of Manchurian steel.
@frenchfrys12 no your incorrect you dont understand the higher spiritual aspects of making a samurai sword. the tradition of making the swords requires human labor to be put in and not hammered by a machine. you all know nothing about japanese samurai sword making. when a samurai would take his sword to be sharpened the swordsmith is not just sharpening a sword he is sharpening the soul of the samurai. a sword that was hammered by a machine has no soul.
@frenchfrys12 you have to learn this in order to understand the way of the samurai. the way of the samurai is not about doing things the easy way but finding valor and meaning in doing things the hard way. most westerners dont understand these concepts of honor and spirituality because it is not a part of our culture but this is how the samurai did things it wasnt just get ur done for them it was do it the right way and put everything into it.
@timberlandtim1 Correct, but this is the mass production line. Not as fancy as the true katana, but similar in performance to the true katana. These cost around $2,000, while true katanas cost $25,000+.
@timberlandtim1 "The way of the Samurai..." "Doing things the hard way..." Doing things the hard way? Such as, for example, using correct spelling and grammar when posting? And as for the "way of the Samurai," are you referring to having your sword tested on, at best, condemned criminals, or at worst, an innocent passerby? Or are you referring to cutting down a farmer for not showing proper respect? Or perhaps killing yourself for making a mistake? Be very careful when idealizing people.
@InfernalSolo my bad i didnt know a washed up youtube english teacher would be grading my comments ; ) AS FAR AS THE COMMENTS ABOUT SAMURAI IMPLYING THAT THEY WERE MURDERERS AND BULLIES I COULD SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT THE POLICE. THEY BEAT UN ARMED CITIZENS WHO ARE ALREADY IN CUFFS. THEY RACIAL PROFILE AND STEAL FROM THE EVIDENCE ROOM. THEY CONSPIRE AND BREAK LAWS THEMSELVES WHILE ENFORCING THEM AMONG THE PEOPLE. THEY SHOOT AND KILL UNARMED SUSPECTS. SO ALL IN ALL POLICE ARE SAME AS SAMURAI
@timberlandtim1 Hey now, I prefer the term "Grammar Nazi." But seriously, since you seem so enraptured by their supposed code of doing things the proper way...
But in any case, you are 100% correct and make my point entirely. You cannot afford to idealize people, no matter who they are. Do I think all police are evil? No Do I think all Samurai are evil? No. In fact, I respect a lot of them. However, I have zero patience for that "super warriors/swords from the mystic east" attitude.
@InfernalSolo Referring to your final sentence "I have zero pateience for that 'super warriors/swords from the mystic east' attitude", what do you mean by that?
@Mega01ism Basically what I'm talking about is the general attitude of Japanese swords and Samurai as discussed in these pages:
Search "weeaboo" on urbandictionary.
Search "Japanese swords in fiction" on Wikipedia.
The latter of which especially:
"Katanas are often depicted as being inherently "superior" to all other weapons ... By contrast, traditional European weapons are often depicted as clumsy, crude and unwieldy by comparison."
@InfernalSolo Ah, I see. Well I can understand why you have little patience as it is a bit of an insult if traditional European weapons are considered inferior to the Katana. I will admit that I sometime glorify the Katana but I do have a great interest in swords in general, so I don't hold it (the katana) so high anymore. It does make sense thinking back in certain samurai films. Which is why I find it slightly amusing in Kill Bill when the samurai sword is dissed by Pai Mei.
I'm not sure, but the background voice seems it's a Chinese factory, and every workers here has no form suit, I dare the sales cab earn lot from these low cost workers.
hes using the same techniques that the ancient japanese sword smiths used.
I'm not sure what the carbon content is or the oxidation is on that slab of metal he is using but hey it may be tamahagana grade or just regular steel, who knows. all I know is that he is hammering it into uniform shape and creating layers by folding the metal. thats the same basically the same technique
hand made swords would almost undoubtably be better quality if done by the better swordsmiths, but those are extremely slow to make, rare, difficult to make, and expensive
replica or even reasonably well working swords could be made like this easily though
you wouldn't grab that sword being made by the blade, lol
@noobler9 exactly traditional handmade swords are of higher quality take more time and alot more effort.. it looks like hes rushing the process there is sure to be imperfections in the blade....
@timberlandtim1 probably, but the cost difference would justify this I believe, that's why replicas and reasonably functional swords, just nothing that will slice a man's head off in a single blow, people do have different tastes, some like aesthetics and some like functionality, although functionality is a lot less.... well... yea...
lot less necessary in this day and age so it's just an extra "bragging right" and many are fine with just owning "a katana" of some reasonably well done sort
@timberlandtim1 i ppromise u if a samurai warrior saw u make a sword like this back in the day he would not come back to u to do anything he needed and would never even think about having this guy make his sword.
The traditional way...The master holds the metal in place while his students hammer...but this way does seem a lil' faster and makes it a one man job so...
@minibot7 all forged swords are done by professionals,i would assume most are made custom,if not there not cheap anyway,alot of labor in forging a sword
A true Samurai sword takes about 6 months. The element they used to make the sword is not just ordinary metal. Take a look at this video. Vey well documented by National Geographic. /watch?v=LtKK3Y9_vWY
katanas aren't suppose to be forged into shape, they get the curved shape in the quenching process
Chronos2020 5 days ago
@ERHABY305 really ? why ?
colt45y 1 month ago
MADE IN CHINA
kaisermuto 2 months ago in playlist katana 2
non traditional
shyne1o1 2 months ago
that hammer would make a great head smasher for some people
kamekazi301 2 months ago
Thank you very much...wonderful !
wildmandazza 3 months ago
Yeah, this guy is such total fag for using a hydraulic hammer! REAL sword-smiths don't use tongs either. They carry the steel between their butt-cheeks and hammer the sword into shape with their balls...
-_-
MrGuvnah 3 months ago 13
Its a hydraulic hammer it works exactly like hammering except its faster not everyone has the strength to do it by hand if we didn't have these most of those nice swords wouldn't exist.
snickers763 3 months ago
Hey, China... Give me a break! LOL. Don't eat meals with plate of younger brother! Bro, get a life!
AwesomeKazuaki 4 months ago
Hydraulic hammer aside its pretty neat..
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sungbauvatcfvinhvien 4 months ago
fuck mechanized labor. is there is no honour to work with the hands?
AlphaEckoNiner9ner 4 months ago
what kind of mud was he spreading on it? I know what its for, I just dont know how to make it.
bcboynb 5 months ago
awesome
GriD866 5 months ago
I have actually tired to use this thing and all I know is: "don't press that pedal too much" ;)
myrro666 5 months ago
I don't want a factory made Sword.... I want a sword that came from a strong hearted humble spirited passionet Black Smith ... I would want my Sword to have spirit
Vorace86 5 months ago
@Vorace86
Dude, I don't even consider this "Factory Made", this is more Semi-factory. I mean they still moulded it in a way nobody could ever replicate, they just simply used something to take the load off of them.
Sonicrega 5 months ago
I like porn
MattyboyOMG 5 months ago
little bit sad, if it's for quick job and cost reduction.
Is this sword have a spirit ?
BrandyGlasses 5 months ago
I wish I could smith Katanas...I know good and well that if I went to Japan and asked they'd more than likely think I am crazy and say no...
fastitslol 5 months ago
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WolfGhost0 5 months ago
Is there any Video at all that shows a Sword being forged from the folded steel. This video like all the videos don't show him stretching the whole blade out. I know it is somehow a secret for every bladesmith HOW he does it. But there must be someone showing it ^^?
boatoflol 6 months ago
LOL MADE IN CHINA NOT AWSOMENESS XD
808BIGFOOT 6 months ago
LOL MADE IN CHINS NOT AWSOMENESS xD
808BIGFOOT 6 months ago
Thank you very much for sharing this process.It has always intrigued me..Using a power hammer doesn't take away from the skill required.
richyearle007 6 months ago
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richyearle007 6 months ago
This is Japan, not imitation sword by the Chinese.
This is Japan, not imitation sword by the Chinese.
This is Japan, not imitation sword by the Chinese.
This is Japan, not imitation sword by the Chinese.
This is Japan, not imitation sword by the Chinese.
hame505 6 months ago
@hame505 How much do you wanna bet you're wrong. First, they sure as hell don't look Japanese. Second, the language (pretty sure its a Chinese dialect) that was spoken definitely wasn't Japanese. And third, though its a dying art, no self respecting Japanese "craftsman" would make a sword with a hydraulic hammer. I would know this because I am Japanese.
Nurde 6 months ago
..... so at which point do they put the vengeful wolf spirit into the sword?
tinalinlina 6 months ago in playlist how its made
@tinalinlina The spirtit enters the sword when the blade is quenched into it final form
ScandinaviansAreCool 6 months ago 2
Awsome hey u guys I take handmades side if it's yours if I made a sword for myself hand made by far but for someone else I would have a fricken robot do it for me check out my mini carving tool I forged when I was fourteen and just posted it now
xboxGrizzlyAK 6 months ago
How did you make that groove?
ConorC96 7 months ago
To be honest a hand forged sword would be better due to the fact that you can make the strikes harder or softer and it really depends on the steel used a good ore is hard to come by now and for all those people spending months arguing get a life no one really cares just take the method you like and live with it I prefer hand forged and yes forging is an art form art isn't beautiful it's delicate which forging is one wrong strike and the blade can crack and be rendered useless
LittleJamesL 7 months ago
@LittleJamesL "To be honest a hand forged sword would be better due to the fact that you can make the strikes harder or softer..." [sic]
of course you know that you can vary the power each strike delivers with the power hammer, plus he finishes it off by hand anyway.
frackcha 6 months ago
@frackcha yes but you cant alter the angles as much as you can by hand but to be honest i dont give a damn no one uses them anymore to my dissapointment but i would still rather forge by hand but each to there own i think if you prefer a style then go with it
LittleJamesL 5 months ago
@LittleJamesL have you done much smithy work?? i can tell you it takes as much skill to use a power hammer, as it does to hand strike... even old fashioned smiths used assistance in the form of strikers, wielding sledge hammers, but they had to be paid, a power hammer just needs to be bought, and plugged in. using a power hammer is just common sense...
frackcha 5 months ago
come on, even if you have modern tools, the quality of the end product it is still down to the skill and experience of the wielder of the tools. This is just a hammer, a really bigarse hammer, it still need to be wielded and operated by a skilled craftsman like any other tool. I suspect these blades are superior to the ones hammered by hand, but yes i do appriciate things that are made 100% by hand, but times have changed, thats all. It takes skill and know how even if you have a bigger hammer.
Sprengstoff 7 months ago
HATORI HANZO!
Armelas 7 months ago
no no no
this is wrong
remove this video asap
NippleOfNippon 7 months ago
these guys are Chinese
pretendosse 7 months ago
コレは日本刀ではありません
kajika1000 7 months ago
In using a hammer of that nature, you could achieve a higher volume of work, meaning in the same time a hand hammered sword could be made could make and even more refined sword using a machine. The mystical magical air surrounding hand made swords is built of the knowledge gained through the labor intesive process originally required to make the sword. A machine that manipulates electrons and could build a sword that has harmonic resonance, able to cut through plate steel would be marvelous.
cptnwilliamread 8 months ago
this be a nice job to have
rensy101 8 months ago
this is not the real way of forging a japanese sword..i think this person doing this is a korean national..not a japanese..
1422lemon 8 months ago
that's how we did it in ancient japan, with hydraulic hammers
DaC0Dfath3r 8 months ago
日本人よりコメントします。この製作方法では、日本刀は作れません。背後の言語は日本語ではありません。このような簡単な作り方ではありません。世界の皆様騙されまれない様に希望します。反論があれば日本語でお願いします。
2katashige 8 months ago
oh siiick....a hammer like that would be awesome!
crushedcranium 8 months ago
beautiful !!!
hshugos1 8 months ago
Those sparks must be killing the cameraman and the poor thing holding the brick looking thing at 0:50
Southpark124 8 months ago
Precurved and only using one type of steel. This would be a shitty sword.
theFLCLguy 8 months ago
LOL! Good one watchforfinger...
This guy is crazy for not wearing safety glasses.
Machster10 8 months ago
I am very impressed with your craftsmanship this sword is a thing of beauty and I was just wondering a few things. First how long did it take you to make that sword and do you take custom orders
jdsmithman 8 months ago
ick, hydraulic hammer... lost respect...moving on...
Breathor 9 months ago 11
@Breathor many (if not all) 'real' japanese smiths are working with a hydraulic hammer as well :)
SamuraiSwordShop 9 months ago
@Breathor could be wrong but i think samurai swords are folded over a millions times. can't say i blame him for wanting to speed the process up lol.
amishdude 8 months ago
@amishdude they aren't folded a million times, commonly they are folded 8-16 times which would end up being 512-65,536 layers. you can do it by hand (with helpers) but there is no reason not to use a power hammer, the sword doesn't know the difference. they have been standard in most shops since the late 1800's.
hathegkla 8 months ago
@Breathor A motorized hammer is just to save the labor of assistant swinging the heavy hammer. The question should be about if not welding together small pieces of metal is done to save on labor cost because this is more critical to the micro-structure of the steel. The variations in the steel of the blade are of critical importance.
brentpieczynski 8 months ago
@Breathor lol, you obviously know nothing about blacksmithing or sword making. Maybe you should stick to commenting on things you know about.
hathegkla 8 months ago
@Breathor lol, what? "ick, using a tool... should be using his bare fists... moving on..."
the steel doesn't know the difference between a regular hammer and a hydraulic hammer, quit being a retard
TheKingdomofErnor 8 months ago
@TheKingdomofErnor Well you see, before they had HYDRAULICS and MACHINERY... blacksmiths used HAMMERS.... ya know... the TRADITIONAL way.... jackass xD
Breathor 7 months ago
@Breathor Well you see, before they had HAMMERs... blacksmiths used ROCKS... ya know... the TRADITIONAL way... brain dead retard xD
TheKingdomofErnor 7 months ago
@TheKingdomofErnor You Fail.
Breathor 7 months ago
@Breathor At what? Making you not look like an idiot? I wasn't trying to do that.
TheKingdomofErnor 7 months ago
@TheKingdomofErnor Alright lets see, Blacksmithing was an art because the hardest part (and im taking this from my experience as a smith) is hammering the steel. The hammer and anvil is what makes blacksmithing .. blacksmithing. when you throw hydraulic machinery in there it ceases to be an artform and becomes MANUFACTURING. feel better? you stupid fuck
Breathor 7 months ago
@Breathor You can call any asinine thing you want an "artform". Chances are, these people don't give a shit about making art. They are smithing, not painting.
You mystify scientific technique to give it inane titles like "art", when it's made to serve a practical purpose. (So you're an idiot)
TheKingdomofErnor 7 months ago
@TheKingdomofErnor Go forge a sword better then them then come back here and tell me it dosnt take an artistic feel and masters touch. you fail AGAIN Mr. Science... also, urmad. gg
Breathor 7 months ago
@Breathor That's hilariously ironic, considering your argument the whole time has been that smiths who use a hydraulic hammer aren't really smiths.
TheKingdomofErnor 7 months ago
@Breathor
It's not hydraulic, it's pneumatic.
There is no full time swordsmith that I know of who doesn't use either a spring hammer (like most japanese bladesmiths) or an air hammer. Before these were used a smith had the help of either a team of strikers or a mechanical hammer driven by a waterwheel. Especially with pattern welded swords, or tamahagane swords , which are folded, it is near impossible to do all the work alone, you would end up with a heap of scale and almost no metal left.
slome815 7 months ago
@Breathor its a pnematic hammer aand why would u lose repect for someone using one? it makes the welding/folding/layering process alot faster
levicw05 6 months ago
@Breathor got to remember, if your a swordsmith, your going to have a long time, hurting with your arm, saves his arm from being fucked up later in life, hes smart
djplace16 6 months ago
@Breathor have you ever blacksmithed? and seen the difference between using a hammer by hand or that? Until you actually do this work dont go dissing on something that makes the word easier and better.
RoninAvenger 5 months ago
@RoninAvenger I smith every day. have been for about 2 years now. in my opinion the artform and skill of a blacksmith comes from the old fashioned methods, not modern tools. and if you have any more smartass comments leave me your email and ill show you pictures of the swords, axes, and knives ive forged :D. have a good day.
Breathor 5 months ago
@Breathor So I can't see the things you made unless I make a smartass comment? I actually want to see them. Or are you to angry still to show me :(
RoninAvenger 5 months ago
@Breathor
uhmm.. even yoshindo yoshihara uses a power hammer like all modern smiths.
a hammer is a hammer. no matter how fast and heavy it comes down.
shhnk6 5 months ago 3
@shhnk6 completely understood, i know it works the same. but to me its more of a modern shortcut, i just dont like the modern ways of blacksmithing. i admire the skill and care it took to do the same thing with a hammer and anvil.
Breathor 5 months ago
@Breathor
Dude, just understand that if the true blacksmiths of the past eras ever came across something even remotely close to this they would ALL be using it. Nobody would choose a manual hammer and anvil over an automatic hammer and anvil ever. Not these days n'or the past days. Same skill and care, just less exaustion. I mean really, how much skill does it actually take to beat hot metal as hard as you can?
Sonicrega 5 months ago 18
@Sonicrega it takes ALOT of skill and if you know the history of the real japanese sword you would know owning one is like owning fine art ture blacksmith have to connect with the metal. i could go on but you get the point its a art work.
TattooMgaic 4 months ago
@Sonicrega Watch the discoveries documentary on making a katana they still use hand tools and stones over hydraulics. The point of forging these days is not only the quality but the feeling. Taking time just makes the wait worth while. By the way the guy in that video is the pro of this world his katanas sell for millions he can easily afford this hy-tec crap but he still uses a hammer.
JustinJaybrown 1 month ago
@JustinJaybrown
I'm not talking about "these days", I'm talking about "the past eras". Back THEN they would've used these machines, THAT's what I'm saying. I don't care if people still use hand tools and stones over them, that's their personal choice. I KNOW if you work harder at something you'll feel better about it. But still swords were INITIALLY ment for battle only, alright?
Sonicrega 1 month ago
@Sonicrega no a sword is not just meant to kill to a warrior your sword is your soul it is sacred. And you would not get a weapon from just any one.
JustinJaybrown 1 month ago
@JustinJaybrown
OMG, that's EXACTLY what a sword is for! To kill people! I'm not denying that they're sacred, because anything you create I believe should be kept sacred. But as I keep saying, the sword's initial purpose, therefore TRUE purpose is to kill another person.
Sonicrega 1 month ago
@Sonicrega what your'e reffering to as "beating hot metal as hard as you can" is actually a piece of art, you cant just go in the garage find a piece of metal use a hammer and bang bang it to make a sword it take quite a lot of effort to to so you have to carefully make pattern by only smelt in a very special way and it takes alot of lifting and grinding, please shut the hell up.
Primtoss 1 month ago
@Primtoss
UGH!!! Obviously it's a piece of art, you DO create something out of it, it is YOUR work when you make it. I know what forging is, which means I also know what forging swords is. Dude, just...think about what I said... -_-
Sonicrega 1 month ago
@Breathor You know, it's comments like yours that make me glad youtube isn't representative of average human intelligence.
NotJustYouNoob 5 months ago
@NotJustYouNoob Y U SO MAD, YOUTUBE HOMO?
Breathor 5 months ago
@Breathor Nah, just amused, /b/tard,
NotJustYouNoob 4 months ago
@Breathor There is no "skill" involved with simply beating the hammer, dummy. Who the hell convinced you otherwise? TV? Maybe you watch too much of it.
JerridPayne 5 months ago
@Breathor
Agree, mass producing this is lack of respect, asides they probably would only last like a single slice through a melon anyway.
MadmanDKDK 4 months ago
this is the real stuff... I had a friend who had a sword that was completely forge-sharpened and that thing would zip through a 2x4 with no problems, one handed... the real thing is so much better than that lazer-sharpened-machine-forged-from-billet crap
TheBulitt 9 months ago
Dude, earplugs and goggles. Safety first. :p
Nesstor01 10 months ago
Good craftsmanship! But the guy's probably deaf by now. Earplugs, anyone? ;)
konklaven 10 months ago
@konklaven what I can't hear you ....... i did work with a blacksmith he was a top bloke ,but started every sentence with WHAT and finished it with WHAT ?
grunt182820 9 months ago
@konklaven my job is worse than that and Ive been working there for 4 years, no hearing problem here.
lllHanzolll 9 months ago
@lllHanzolll I'm sorry... What did you say?
atgrim 9 months ago
@konklaven not so much this is more like the ones you would see for sale in a knife shop. real samurai swords can take up to ten years to make or more now that craftsmanship lol
pooinyourass 9 months ago
@pooinyourass ..............................10 years.... try 3 months you tool. don't throw around numbers without doing your research first.
luthmhor 9 months ago
@luthmhor
I'm doubtful as well 10 years how are they suppose to earn a living by that unless its a one of a kind sword then might be possible,
creepysg 8 months ago
@pooinyourass if 1 sword took ten years to make, they would never have enough swords to go around...
thunderfirebolt 8 months ago
i want to see this on FUCKING MACHINES!!
watchforfinger 10 months ago 14
@watchforfinger i think machines done this... but not good like the traditional one?
polengsantiago 7 months ago
The Chinese know how make/use knives too... not like the Japanese just came over to teach them recently.
giantsean 10 months ago
@giantsean actually, katanas origin is korea.
korea had the bent sword at first and it moved to japan from goreu(dunno how to pronounce) and japanese put their own traits in to those
TheLunatic1011 10 months ago
@TheLunatic1011 Ok then it's not like the Japanese OR Koreans just came over to teach them
giantsean 10 months ago
@giantsean Japanese came over and learned the methods on how to make curved swords, thats how Katana was created
and uhm,,, yeah i guess you can say Chinese can make their own swords.
i guess the first method came from europe to china and through Korea and Japan.
but China did have their own method so your right
TheLunatic1011 10 months ago
@TheLunatic1011
The Japanese moved from the chokuto style blade to the curved tachi blade to overcome the mongol armours...
EvilxMerlin 10 months ago
@TheLunatic1011 Study and research before commenting. Katana has nothing to do with Korean sword. Curved sword Katana was created and developed in Japan. Korea has imported them in 17th century.
Daviysoh 10 months ago
@Daviysoh due to geological location of japan, everything in japan had to come through Korean peninsula and so did the swords.
although the form of 'katana' which is shaped and formed in japan, it still is one of many variation came from the first sword made with bronze long time ago, and before the katana, there was korea.
Korean sword named 'Hwando(환도)' is what Katana has variated from(well, Hwando it self is another variation though)
TheLunatic1011 10 months ago
@TheLunatic1011 It's true that bronze straight sword or cast iron sword came from China, but Japan created own method of 'tatara' iron making and curved style (which has not be able to be seen in any countries) by itself way before 'Hwando' had been made in Korea. Because Japan stopped learning from China by 9th century. Besides importing them through Korea doesn't mean 'from' Korea. Korean sword also originated in China.
Daviysoh 10 months ago
nah. This is a Japanese wanna be black smith.
maxinpains 11 months ago
I always thought all my RAYBAN shades I bought were hand made by Italian, the fact it all the parts were made in China, and all the parts cost for pair of shares are less than 12 USD.
7839199 11 months ago
japanese swords made in china by a machine... just like the japanese use to do it...
CaptainDishman 11 months ago
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yes they are speaking chinese
N1840N1840 11 months ago
curious... do all internet bullies delete there comments when proved wrong ? also nice video !
XxWhoopaxX 11 months ago
did anyone else notice that when he put that chunk of steel in that hole a sword came out.
iliteritmonkey 1 year ago
interested in making it rubs to get a shine if someone knows some say
vjekomirski 1 year ago
these guys aint japanese!!
1102071 1 year ago
NL xD
MastersOfTheCamera 1 year ago
shut up idiots and comment on the vid. eg. the method he is using will create an awesome sword in terms of tensile strength.
Brianboiler 1 year ago
Strictly speaking, it's a Japanese style Chinese sword. If it's made in China, then it's a Chinese sword. That doesn't imply lesser quality, or something. It's just how English works as a language.
TheKingdomofErnor 1 year ago
@TheKingdomofErnor, lol, thats fucking stupid. If an American flag pin is made in china does that mean its a Chinese flag, no, you lose, try again.
iliteritmonkey 1 year ago
@iliteritmonkey That's actually completely different. An American flag is an American flag because it's the Flag of the USA. I won't bother to go on, because as your username suggests, you seem to be illiterate.
TheKingdomofErnor 1 year ago
@TheKingdomofErnor, you said "if its made in china, then its a Chinese sword." following this logic if a flag were to be made in china, and said flag had a blue rectangle in the upper left hand corner, and this rectangle had fifty white stars in it, and the rest of the flag consisted of 13 alternating stripes of red and white, would that be considered a Chinese flag? NO.
iliteritmonkey 1 year ago
@iliteritmonkey It would be a Chinese American Flag, obviously. Like a Spanish guitar made in China is a Chinese Spanish Guitar. "American Flag" is basically the name of the object.
TheKingdomofErnor 1 year ago
@TheKingdomofErnor, nope
iliteritmonkey 1 year ago
@iliteritmonkey No it wouldn't, but it would still be considered worth burning.
666pecker666 11 months ago
@666pecker666, thats not a very clear comment, someone could get the wrong impression.
iliteritmonkey 11 months ago
They are japanese swords made in China.
tadanokuukan 1 year ago
they are speaking chinese LOL!
iBunnyLover 1 year ago
@iBunnyLover no japanese nice try
FCK YOu btw:)
Asnweiyi 1 year ago
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@Asnweiyi LOL YOU MAD?
iBunnyLover 1 year ago
I think we can all agree using that machine beats the hell out of carpel tunnel.
LedZeppelin13k7 1 year ago
whats that clay-like stuff he paints on there? and whats it for?
TheClockStrikes13 1 year ago
@TheClockStrikes13 It's a type of clay (some-times infused w/ powdered diamonds.. or so I'v heard), that helps to hold the tempering process, as well as adding to the 'wavy' hammon pattern along the cutting edge. as well as being a laminate (aka damascus) steel, the edge is harder,while the interior ofthe blade is 'softer' and more flexible
x3r0w07f 1 year ago
so what that hes using this mechanized thing lol maybe he aint got 2 airheads to stand there with hammers and pound
Newbpwng 1 year ago
Much wasted motion, needless noise and a filthy forge area / dangerous. - Shame
MrSchpankme 1 year ago
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It's fake.
Pls see vAsCkSA159s
TheTigerjeetsingh 1 year ago
It's fake.
Pls see vAsCkSA159s
TheTigerjeetsingh 1 year ago
That is how an authentic art turns into making money
да уж массовая культура - исскуство превращается в зарабатывание денег
avantasiacarol 1 year ago
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avantasiacarol 1 year ago
Its not a japanese sword without japanese steel, thats it. Also japanese steel is the best for swords making.
Saladon89 1 year ago
@Saladon89 1. how do you know he is not using Japanese steel?
2. do tou even know what Japanese steel is?
CapnJ1mmy 1 year ago
@Saladon89 Not true. Some genuine Japanese swords in the old time were made out of European steels. During the conquest of Manchuria in the early 20th century, some swords gained particular reputations of being made out of Manchurian steel.
harrison28514 1 year ago
needs to cut his fingernails they are too long
timberlandtim1 1 year ago
i bet this sword would break if a traditionally made katana was slashed against it hard enough
timberlandtim1 1 year ago
@timberlandtim1 i garrantee u the metal is inferior
timberlandtim1 1 year ago
@timberlandtim1 Incorrect. A 1 lever machine is the same as a flat hammer. The rest of this video is handmade. It all depends on the steel.
frenchfrys12 1 year ago
@frenchfrys12 no your incorrect you dont understand the higher spiritual aspects of making a samurai sword. the tradition of making the swords requires human labor to be put in and not hammered by a machine. you all know nothing about japanese samurai sword making. when a samurai would take his sword to be sharpened the swordsmith is not just sharpening a sword he is sharpening the soul of the samurai. a sword that was hammered by a machine has no soul.
timberlandtim1 1 year ago
@frenchfrys12 you have to learn this in order to understand the way of the samurai. the way of the samurai is not about doing things the easy way but finding valor and meaning in doing things the hard way. most westerners dont understand these concepts of honor and spirituality because it is not a part of our culture but this is how the samurai did things it wasnt just get ur done for them it was do it the right way and put everything into it.
timberlandtim1 1 year ago
@timberlandtim1 Correct, but this is the mass production line. Not as fancy as the true katana, but similar in performance to the true katana. These cost around $2,000, while true katanas cost $25,000+.
frenchfrys12 1 year ago
@timberlandtim1 "The way of the Samurai..." "Doing things the hard way..." Doing things the hard way? Such as, for example, using correct spelling and grammar when posting? And as for the "way of the Samurai," are you referring to having your sword tested on, at best, condemned criminals, or at worst, an innocent passerby? Or are you referring to cutting down a farmer for not showing proper respect? Or perhaps killing yourself for making a mistake? Be very careful when idealizing people.
InfernalSolo 1 year ago
@InfernalSolo my bad i didnt know a washed up youtube english teacher would be grading my comments ; ) AS FAR AS THE COMMENTS ABOUT SAMURAI IMPLYING THAT THEY WERE MURDERERS AND BULLIES I COULD SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT THE POLICE. THEY BEAT UN ARMED CITIZENS WHO ARE ALREADY IN CUFFS. THEY RACIAL PROFILE AND STEAL FROM THE EVIDENCE ROOM. THEY CONSPIRE AND BREAK LAWS THEMSELVES WHILE ENFORCING THEM AMONG THE PEOPLE. THEY SHOOT AND KILL UNARMED SUSPECTS. SO ALL IN ALL POLICE ARE SAME AS SAMURAI
timberlandtim1 1 year ago
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timberlandtim1 1 year ago
@timberlandtim1 Hey now, I prefer the term "Grammar Nazi." But seriously, since you seem so enraptured by their supposed code of doing things the proper way...
But in any case, you are 100% correct and make my point entirely. You cannot afford to idealize people, no matter who they are. Do I think all police are evil? No Do I think all Samurai are evil? No. In fact, I respect a lot of them. However, I have zero patience for that "super warriors/swords from the mystic east" attitude.
InfernalSolo 1 year ago
@InfernalSolo Referring to your final sentence "I have zero pateience for that 'super warriors/swords from the mystic east' attitude", what do you mean by that?
Mega01ism 1 year ago
@Mega01ism Basically what I'm talking about is the general attitude of Japanese swords and Samurai as discussed in these pages:
Search "weeaboo" on urbandictionary.
Search "Japanese swords in fiction" on Wikipedia.
The latter of which especially:
"Katanas are often depicted as being inherently "superior" to all other weapons ... By contrast, traditional European weapons are often depicted as clumsy, crude and unwieldy by comparison."
InfernalSolo 1 year ago
@InfernalSolo Ah, I see. Well I can understand why you have little patience as it is a bit of an insult if traditional European weapons are considered inferior to the Katana. I will admit that I sometime glorify the Katana but I do have a great interest in swords in general, so I don't hold it (the katana) so high anymore. It does make sense thinking back in certain samurai films. Which is why I find it slightly amusing in Kill Bill when the samurai sword is dissed by Pai Mei.
Mega01ism 1 year ago
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timberlandtim1 1 year ago
industrial revolution = mass production = cheaper products = less quality products produced
timberlandtim1 1 year ago
@timberlandtim1 all the chinese did was mass produce the katana like they do everything else TRUTH
timberlandtim1 1 year ago
I'm not sure, but the background voice seems it's a Chinese factory, and every workers here has no form suit, I dare the sales cab earn lot from these low cost workers.
echocat810 1 year ago
how do you make money if each one takes a day or more to make
mike091906 1 year ago
touch the metal i dear you
mike091906 1 year ago
hes using the same techniques that the ancient japanese sword smiths used.
I'm not sure what the carbon content is or the oxidation is on that slab of metal he is using but hey it may be tamahagana grade or just regular steel, who knows. all I know is that he is hammering it into uniform shape and creating layers by folding the metal. thats the same basically the same technique
doubleclutcher336 1 year ago
hand made swords would almost undoubtably be better quality if done by the better swordsmiths, but those are extremely slow to make, rare, difficult to make, and expensive
replica or even reasonably well working swords could be made like this easily though
you wouldn't grab that sword being made by the blade, lol
noobler9 1 year ago
@noobler9 exactly traditional handmade swords are of higher quality take more time and alot more effort.. it looks like hes rushing the process there is sure to be imperfections in the blade....
timberlandtim1 1 year ago
@timberlandtim1 probably, but the cost difference would justify this I believe, that's why replicas and reasonably functional swords, just nothing that will slice a man's head off in a single blow, people do have different tastes, some like aesthetics and some like functionality, although functionality is a lot less.... well... yea...
lot less necessary in this day and age so it's just an extra "bragging right" and many are fine with just owning "a katana" of some reasonably well done sort
noobler9 1 year ago
@timberlandtim1 i ppromise u if a samurai warrior saw u make a sword like this back in the day he would not come back to u to do anything he needed and would never even think about having this guy make his sword.
timberlandtim1 1 year ago
made in China - Japanese sword?
tell me more about it
leindeth 1 year ago
The traditional way...The master holds the metal in place while his students hammer...but this way does seem a lil' faster and makes it a one man job so...
LaidbackPlayboy 1 year ago
That is... Astonishing... I am guessing it would take somebody quite a while to get really good at making a samurai sword.
Zech727 1 year ago
these are the ones you see in the unprofessional stores, and on the internet I guess.
minibot7 1 year ago
@minibot7 all forged swords are done by professionals,i would assume most are made custom,if not there not cheap anyway,alot of labor in forging a sword
This0is0pointless 1 year ago
use that thing to cut your nails when its done
100percentgradeA 1 year ago
how long would this take if it was made by hand?
cybertriobite 1 year ago
@cybertriobite
A true Samurai sword takes about 6 months. The element they used to make the sword is not just ordinary metal. Take a look at this video. Vey well documented by National Geographic. /watch?v=LtKK3Y9_vWY
changbrothers 1 year ago 2
@changbrothers thanks for the info
cybertriobite 1 year ago