I think we should contextualize what moonrage is trying to point out. The semi-circle formation is distinctly MADZ. The UPLB Choral Ensemble can imitate them but they are just gonna look wannabes even if they are good at what they do. I am from UPLB but i guess our home grown choir must create something that they can call their own.
The sitting formation is also done by other choirs outside the country so you cant really say that this choir is a wannabe although I understand what you are trying to say. A former active member of Madz who served as the choirmaster of this group in the 90's served as the benchmark why they do the semi circle sitting position.
may isa pa akong comment.. alam kong tinitingala ang MADZ, idol sila ng ibang choirs.. pero let's face it.. pare-pareho lang ang lahat ng choir.. they all love music.. and they all want to share music to the world.. kaya we shouldn't put boundaries sa ibang choir.. dapat lahat may chance na mag-grow.. hindi naman pwedeng habang buhay "MADZ and the REST" na lang tayo diba?
no need to put down the Philippine Madrigal Singers, if you are a Filipino, just be thankful that we have the them, they just love music and so are we. no one is looking down on you as a choir. and just love your music please. just love your music and do think about your passion.
kung nagkakamali yung iba, tapos napapagkamalan nilang Madz ang choir na 'to.. feeling ko.. kelangan lang nilang magbasa.. may title naman kasi diba, kasama pa nga yung name ng choir..
di rin naman siguro pangit ang choir na 'to, nagkataon lang na low quality yung video..
sana di na mag-away away ang mga tao sa mga simpleng bagay..
hmm.. sorry ha.. pero tingin ko.. grabe namang nag-aaway kau dahil lang sa formation ng choir na 'to.. I mean.. hindi mo pwedeng i-judge ang isang choir based on formation.. ang choir namin ganito din umupo pag concert.. actually.. i find it rather comfortable.. nakakapagod naman kasing tumayo at kumanta ng dalawang oras diba? Ang MADZ nga, di naman dinidibdib na ganito ang formation ng choir na 'to.
Maling mali po si Dr.John28. Hindi pnatent at hindi po maaring ipatent ng Madz ang seating formation nila sa pagkanta. Iyon po ay hinango nila sa isang paraan ng pag-awit ng madrigals noong renaissance, nakaupo ng walang conductor.
Pangalawa, ang UPLB Choral Ensemble bilang kasapi ng Madrigal Et Al. ay talagang sinanay na sa ganitong pag-awit katulad din naman ng karamihan sa mga korong kabilang dito (Madz et al.). Madz din naman ang nagturo sa amin nito.
Sorry po wala ako.Camera phone ko lang ginamit ko eh.Nasira kasi videocam ko.Grrrr!I'm sure mismo CE meron copy from a videocam.Sorry I can't ask them to upload some clips coz I'm no longer a member of this choir.FYI, founding member ako ng UPLCE nung 1991. Just left the group like 5 months ago.
I happen to be a member of the UPLB Choral Ensemble and i found drjohn's comments disappointing..kasi he does not even know (or even asked) why the group adapted this kind of formation. You see, our former choirmasters (one of them, is a member of the MADZ) along with some of our alumni (some are in the MADZ as well) influenced this group through its 15-year existence, and the rest, shall i say, is history because im not sure if drjohn deserves further explanation. Thanks for watching it though.
i don't know why they are imitating the "madz formation" (seated in a semi-circle w/ no conductor in front)! kakainis! no originality! ayan napagkakamalan tuloy kayong madz. bakit kailangang gayahin?!
im pretty much sure you're also in a choir (or have been), drjohn. and your group is singing in SATB, standing in semi-circle formation, and with a conductor in the center. wow, very original.
there's nothing wrong with this group adapting the seated semi-circle formation of the madz. it's not patented, am I right? first, i guess the madz is their inspiration (please correct me if im wrong). (cont...)
not patented? im not sure of that. maybe they (madz) should! the formation of madz kasi is very distinct na eh. you see "mqteves" mistook them for the madz.
"mqteves" must learn how to read titles. "Overdrive" by the UPLB Choral Ensemble. they clearly stated the song they are performing and the name of their choral group. i dont think "mqteves" has an excuse. she should learn to read titles.
well, i haven't stated my entire point about your first comment regarding the group.
Ok lang mapagkamalan noon MADZ kami kasi halos tunog MADZ kami noon.I am proud to say na my batch was kinda a favorite of MADZ kasi sa dami ng choirs sa Pinas ay kami ang pinili nila to represent Philippines sa 1998 Tolosa International Choral Competition sa Spain. Gagawin ba nila iyon kung hindi kami magaling noon? Nope! Too bad hindi na mangyayari yun uli.
To joeygth, ndi ko lam kung true sinasabi mo pero sana mahiya ka naman (para sa mga co-alumni and current members ng group nyo). Sa iyo na rin nanggaling na founding member ka. Pangit kasi na siniraan mo sarili mong grupo. Peace!
Kung sino ka man "ticille" at ayaw gamitin ang totoong pangalan ay wag kang pakialamero or pakialamera. Feeling ko member ka and a nobody sa grupo. Kung alam mo ang situation ay kayo dapat ang mahiya so shut up!
I'm not in either MADZ nor the UPLB Choral Ensemble. I agree with drjohn28. This formation is distinctively identified with the MADZ, patented or not. UPLB knew exactly what it was doing and that they were going to be mistaken for the MADZ. That was exactly what the point. It is simply wrong.
Defenders cannot hide by equating the standing semi-circle formation with the sitting formation popularized by the MADZ as both unpatentend. Only one of them is identified with a specific choir.
Everytime others imitate the MADZ formation, the MADZ brand is susceptible to damage. They have a right to be outraged and the imitators have a duty to be ashmaed.
grabe ka naman kuya.. parang sinabi mo na ring bawal kanatahin ang kahit anong awitin sa videoke, simply because it was POPULARIZED by someone famous..
hindi po dapat issue ang formation nila..
siguro dapat magalit kayo kung kinuha ng choir na 'to yung pangalan ng MADZ diba?
la lang.. habang binabasa ko 'to.. iniisip ko lang ang puso mo..
parang galit na galit ka.. Member ka po ba ng MADZ?
Hindi ako member ng MADZ. I also don't think tama ang analogy mo. Iba kasi ang expectation at purpose ng kanta. Pero even there, hindi mo puedeng sabihin na original mo ang kanta. Sa mga signature moves naman, etiquette lang na huwag mong gayahin. Mas madali siguro akong maintindihan ng mga tao who've ever been in dance groups or comedians for example. Ang signature formation kasi is part of the routine. UPLB basically stole MADS routine.
Well sorry but it is like we have been "authorized" by our 2nd choirmaster,who happens to be a former bass of MADZ,to perform with this arrangement of singers.We've been performing with other choirs & we never heard any issue regarding our sitting arrangement.
omg.... pagupo lng pinag aawayan pa... >.<
ashtrocigarettes 1 year ago
I think we should contextualize what moonrage is trying to point out. The semi-circle formation is distinctly MADZ. The UPLB Choral Ensemble can imitate them but they are just gonna look wannabes even if they are good at what they do. I am from UPLB but i guess our home grown choir must create something that they can call their own.
garsh6p 2 years ago
The sitting formation is also done by other choirs outside the country so you cant really say that this choir is a wannabe although I understand what you are trying to say. A former active member of Madz who served as the choirmaster of this group in the 90's served as the benchmark why they do the semi circle sitting position.
Antiproton2009 1 year ago
may isa pa akong comment.. alam kong tinitingala ang MADZ, idol sila ng ibang choirs.. pero let's face it.. pare-pareho lang ang lahat ng choir.. they all love music.. and they all want to share music to the world.. kaya we shouldn't put boundaries sa ibang choir.. dapat lahat may chance na mag-grow.. hindi naman pwedeng habang buhay "MADZ and the REST" na lang tayo diba?
chancer28 3 years ago
no need to put down the Philippine Madrigal Singers, if you are a Filipino, just be thankful that we have the them, they just love music and so are we. no one is looking down on you as a choir. and just love your music please. just love your music and do think about your passion.
nicklebomber 3 years ago
hindi ko naman dina-down ang MADZ.. I am thankful na nandiyan sila.. pero wouldn't it be nice kung lahat umaangat din in terms of musicality?
tingnan mo na lang ang message ng iba dito..
hindi ako ang nangddown..
chancer28 3 years ago
kung nagkakamali yung iba, tapos napapagkamalan nilang Madz ang choir na 'to.. feeling ko.. kelangan lang nilang magbasa.. may title naman kasi diba, kasama pa nga yung name ng choir..
di rin naman siguro pangit ang choir na 'to, nagkataon lang na low quality yung video..
sana di na mag-away away ang mga tao sa mga simpleng bagay..
chancer28 3 years ago
hmm.. sorry ha.. pero tingin ko.. grabe namang nag-aaway kau dahil lang sa formation ng choir na 'to.. I mean.. hindi mo pwedeng i-judge ang isang choir based on formation.. ang choir namin ganito din umupo pag concert.. actually.. i find it rather comfortable.. nakakapagod naman kasing tumayo at kumanta ng dalawang oras diba? Ang MADZ nga, di naman dinidibdib na ganito ang formation ng choir na 'to.
chancer28 3 years ago
nakakalungkot.. : (
russelljae 4 years ago
HIndi na kasama ang UPLBCE sa MADZ Et al family kasi wala ng MADZ na naghahandle sa kanila.
joeyqth 4 years ago
hmmm... parang mali 'to...
earldvm 3 years ago
Maling mali po si Dr.John28. Hindi pnatent at hindi po maaring ipatent ng Madz ang seating formation nila sa pagkanta. Iyon po ay hinango nila sa isang paraan ng pag-awit ng madrigals noong renaissance, nakaupo ng walang conductor.
Pangalawa, ang UPLB Choral Ensemble bilang kasapi ng Madrigal Et Al. ay talagang sinanay na sa ganitong pag-awit katulad din naman ng karamihan sa mga korong kabilang dito (Madz et al.). Madz din naman ang nagturo sa amin nito.
russelljae 4 years ago
wala bang better copy? coz all i can hear is noise.. hehehe
mhiceph 5 years ago
Sorry po wala ako.Camera phone ko lang ginamit ko eh.Nasira kasi videocam ko.Grrrr!I'm sure mismo CE meron copy from a videocam.Sorry I can't ask them to upload some clips coz I'm no longer a member of this choir.FYI, founding member ako ng UPLCE nung 1991. Just left the group like 5 months ago.
joeyqth 5 years ago
ic.. too bad, ganda pa naman sana.
mhiceph 5 years ago
I happen to be a member of the UPLB Choral Ensemble and i found drjohn's comments disappointing..kasi he does not even know (or even asked) why the group adapted this kind of formation. You see, our former choirmasters (one of them, is a member of the MADZ) along with some of our alumni (some are in the MADZ as well) influenced this group through its 15-year existence, and the rest, shall i say, is history because im not sure if drjohn deserves further explanation. Thanks for watching it though.
hillaryOne 5 years ago
i don't know why they are imitating the "madz formation" (seated in a semi-circle w/ no conductor in front)! kakainis! no originality! ayan napagkakamalan tuloy kayong madz. bakit kailangang gayahin?!
drjohn28 5 years ago
im pretty much sure you're also in a choir (or have been), drjohn. and your group is singing in SATB, standing in semi-circle formation, and with a conductor in the center. wow, very original.
there's nothing wrong with this group adapting the seated semi-circle formation of the madz. it's not patented, am I right? first, i guess the madz is their inspiration (please correct me if im wrong). (cont...)
kmcsalvador 5 years ago
not patented? im not sure of that. maybe they (madz) should! the formation of madz kasi is very distinct na eh. you see "mqteves" mistook them for the madz.
drjohn28 5 years ago
"mqteves" must learn how to read titles. "Overdrive" by the UPLB Choral Ensemble. they clearly stated the song they are performing and the name of their choral group. i dont think "mqteves" has an excuse. she should learn to read titles.
well, i haven't stated my entire point about your first comment regarding the group.
kmcsalvador 5 years ago
Ok lang mapagkamalan noon MADZ kami kasi halos tunog MADZ kami noon.I am proud to say na my batch was kinda a favorite of MADZ kasi sa dami ng choirs sa Pinas ay kami ang pinili nila to represent Philippines sa 1998 Tolosa International Choral Competition sa Spain. Gagawin ba nila iyon kung hindi kami magaling noon? Nope! Too bad hindi na mangyayari yun uli.
joeyqth 5 years ago
To joeygth, ndi ko lam kung true sinasabi mo pero sana mahiya ka naman (para sa mga co-alumni and current members ng group nyo). Sa iyo na rin nanggaling na founding member ka. Pangit kasi na siniraan mo sarili mong grupo. Peace!
ticille 4 years ago
Kung sino ka man "ticille" at ayaw gamitin ang totoong pangalan ay wag kang pakialamero or pakialamera. Feeling ko member ka and a nobody sa grupo. Kung alam mo ang situation ay kayo dapat ang mahiya so shut up!
joeyqth 4 years ago
I'm not in either MADZ nor the UPLB Choral Ensemble. I agree with drjohn28. This formation is distinctively identified with the MADZ, patented or not. UPLB knew exactly what it was doing and that they were going to be mistaken for the MADZ. That was exactly what the point. It is simply wrong.
Defenders cannot hide by equating the standing semi-circle formation with the sitting formation popularized by the MADZ as both unpatentend. Only one of them is identified with a specific choir.
moonrage73 3 years ago
Everytime others imitate the MADZ formation, the MADZ brand is susceptible to damage. They have a right to be outraged and the imitators have a duty to be ashmaed.
moonrage73 3 years ago
grabe ka naman kuya.. parang sinabi mo na ring bawal kanatahin ang kahit anong awitin sa videoke, simply because it was POPULARIZED by someone famous..
hindi po dapat issue ang formation nila..
siguro dapat magalit kayo kung kinuha ng choir na 'to yung pangalan ng MADZ diba?
la lang.. habang binabasa ko 'to.. iniisip ko lang ang puso mo..
parang galit na galit ka.. Member ka po ba ng MADZ?
chancer28 3 years ago
Hindi ako member ng MADZ. I also don't think tama ang analogy mo. Iba kasi ang expectation at purpose ng kanta. Pero even there, hindi mo puedeng sabihin na original mo ang kanta. Sa mga signature moves naman, etiquette lang na huwag mong gayahin. Mas madali siguro akong maintindihan ng mga tao who've ever been in dance groups or comedians for example. Ang signature formation kasi is part of the routine. UPLB basically stole MADS routine.
moonrage73 3 years ago
hmm.. okay whatever you say po.. Oh, ano ang moral lesson ng story?? :-p
chancer28 3 years ago
Well sorry but it is like we have been "authorized" by our 2nd choirmaster,who happens to be a former bass of MADZ,to perform with this arrangement of singers.We've been performing with other choirs & we never heard any issue regarding our sitting arrangement.
joeyqth 5 years ago
@drjohn28 wala yan sa seating arrangement nsa performance yan ..
breedingseson 4 months ago
are those the madz...wow...rock becoming a choral piece...whewww...galing...more Madz pa sana dito sa youtube
mgteves 5 years ago