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  • staged and lame video if wing chun is so good why doesnt work against a combative fighter all you ever see is staged and half speed crap take that shit to vegas and step in the cage see what happens

  • Is this Roy Dean's school?

  • lol @ all the SERIOUS DISCUSSION going on about a joke vid

  • If someone wedges their forearm while in your guard they have given you an opportunity to submit them by armbar, taking their back, or putting them in an arm triangle. That BJJ guy had no idea what he was doing.

  • Leaving your arm pressed against my throat on the ground leaves you wide open to shoulder lock on that arm armbar or transition to a sweep to top position.

  • Hmmmm... Yeah you might have your forearm on my throat for a second, but its only your strength holding it there. There is no lock, its just the effort of your push. So first and foremost all you would have to do is just push away with your legs and then you cant push hard enough to do any real damage. Even if I didn't push you away, your arm is still extended and thus ready to be armbared. Wing Chun is good for standing, but you cant beat a bjj practioner on the ground, Promise.

  • Lol you people are crazy. " I wouldnt want to be on the bottom" Thats what BJJ is based on. Attacking from your back. If you think whoevers on bottom is automatically losing youve obviously never done a day of jits in your life. Id prefer to be in guard pulling at the back of the head and arms. Its a lot harder to punch someone on in guard then it looks. Its all about whos controlling who. Also i know this is a joking vid, but elbow to the throat is a bad idea. Arm triangles.

  • @Smallstothewall well how often does that work out? ive been doing bjj and mma for a 5 years and bjj isnt made for you to be on your back the hole time. its to help you defend yourself while you are on botom and sweep your opponent so that you are on top and can punch or submit your opponent

  • also from what ive seen while comparing martial arts on youtube its that wing tsun bjj muay thai are the best martial arts wing tsun is better than muay thai and bjj i can say that and im a bjj and muay thai practioner

  • its true that its not good to be on the bottom i think the next time im at bjj ill make it impossible

    to punch or choke me i dont pull to be on the bottom though i always go to the back and choke or armbar and 561 dislikes you realize there just having fun i will like

  • I'm guessing majority of the 556 dislikes are jj and bjj practitioners? or keyboard warriors haha.

  • Oh No! I'm Totally Immobilized!

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  • Wing chun is the deadliest art since ballet.

  • hey everybody that thinks these guys are serious, ever heard of that new thing called sarcasm???

  • @wyattperrybjj I dont claim to be an expert but if someone pulled you down on top of them.. having them land supporting the b ody on their elbow. on your neck.. seems like it would be disadvantageous and painful.. I guess I am saying I dont see why crushing smoeones neck with your body weight would be a bad approach? Additionally I dont think Id ever purposely pull someone down on top of me.. i also think that would not be advantageous ? what do you think man/

  • @sloppymantis i think that your being honest but if you watch any street fights were the guy is on bottom, he usualy armbars/ chokes him out. its never a good idea to pull gaurd in a real fight though because your on bottom getting your face smashed. And if you ask any mma or bjj instructor thell tell you that puting your arm on there neck like that doesnt realy choke that bad, its just annoying as fuck, and your putting yourself in a perfect position to get armbard.

  • @wyattperrybjj I'm trying to visualize what you are saying. And yes im being honest. Just some dude who is curious and likes to ask about stuff :) But I think maybe my cofusion was that I assumed he held b ack so as not to hurt his friend.. And I didnt consider like you said "putting your arm" there, but rather smashing the elbow across the throat. Using his falling/being pulled momentum with gravity would make a strong force there. What is "pulled guard" exactly?

  • @sloppymantis pulling guard is done either when the opponent grabs on by the back of the head or his clothing and uses it to help himself jump up and wrap his legs around the attacker, it can also be done simply by sitting down and leting him come into your guard. from the gaurd you have litteraly hundreds of submissions to end the fight.

  • @wyattperrybjj Good morning sir! Thank you I think I understand now. I will look for some more videos to see this in action. Because I don't think that it completely negates my point. Unless the legs are so strong they can be used to keep the person from crushing you as they land on you. My mind rebels against it a bit as it is my personal habit to NEVER pull someone into or onto me. But thank you for taking the time to explain :)

  • @sloppymantis sounds good to me lol i wouldnt want to be on the bottom either if i was in a fight.

  • @wyattperrybjj I practice what my friends call lazy and wussy boxing. If I can keep my stance from moving I do.. if I have to move I prefer shifting on heels before stepping.. I always favor safety over risks and never sacrifice keeping covered for power. I make it a point to always keep the joints in the body aligned in such away so that I prevent long term damage and can use the least amount of muscle possible.I am a small person so these thinsg are important.I can't use "HULK SMASH" kungfu :)

  • HAHA I get it now. It's sarcasm.

  • fuajajajajaja!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!! seriosly do you think this will ever work? that was the first thing I tried when I started my BJJ lessons and my master could have broken my arm if he had to xD

  • um yea...sure thats how you get ARM BARED you idiot! haahaaa nice try though

  • You guys are hilarious. "Oh my god, I'm totally fuckin' immobilized!" ... I almost shit my pants!

  • lol this is how we set up the arm triangle :)

    

  • if u put ur arm there u will be arm bared soo soo easily

  • LOL

  • lol slide arm off throat or open your guard....

  • Its called sliding the elbow across your neck to escape that. Retards.

  • I guarantee you wouldn't do that to Chuck Norris... Whatever's hiding under that beard would kick break that arm on his throat!

  • If you feel insulted by this your probably a stuckup MMA / BJJ wannabe >:D

  • One word, faggotry.

  • Am I the only one thinking "Geez, I would kinda want to learn some of this, but I don't want to look like a total faggot dipshit like these guys, 99% of all videos on youtube related to martial arts, and every 14-28 y/o male who thinks he is an MMA fighter."?

  • haha, yeah, so easy, hold the hand, cross the leg towards his neck and stretch... arm breaker within 2sec, promise.

  • @lunasearevived is that before or after your windpipe is crushed

  • please put your forearm on myneck so i can grab your wrist and armbar u

  • I'm not even gonna comment.

  • This is bullshit..

  • this guard is so great for competition, or if u're walking out on the streets with nutprotector all the time. other than that it's not recommended to open ur grotch to anyone, except a girl

  • Wouldn't it be much much better to strike the throat? It's what'd I'd do in a real life situation at least. Strike it and recover, or slap the ear or strike the eyes if I could. If they barred me then took me to the ground though I'd be screwed of course, but I just see those as much more effective if you had a hand free.

  • i would go for a triangle...i love triangles hahaha

  • armbar!! I would take that arm home

  • I watched this without sound, and I was like, "Are these guys retarded?"

    Then I put my headphones in to watch it again and I was like, "Oh, I get it now."

  • Dude. A forearm on their neck? It's armbar city!

  • Actually if he would just punch him in the throat he WOULD be immobilized.

  • That's stupid as hell. He could have taken the back easily.

  • wing chun guy is going to get armlocked if he put his hand there..... jiu jitsu wins again.....ahaha

  • haha i voted down because you suck. but nice try

    

  • I just love the battle cry at the end >.<

  • So many people, so little understanding of Sarc-koon-Doe.

  • Your total lack of skill made me totally F*&King immobilized. LOL

  • i fuken laughed so it haaaaaas to be a joke which im sure it is i mean common who does something like that in reality plus how many times have you seen fighters even talk like that in a match???? lol

  • This is sarcasm why are people flipping out . ? lol obviously putting ur arm in the neck doesn't immobilize them .. do people not kno wtf sarcasm is ?hahah dumb-asses hahah

  • I knew from the thumbnail they were touching each others nipples

  • its a joke thats corny

  • I've seen funnier. Stick to BJJ.

  • "im totally fuckn immobilized OMG" thats funny hahahahaha..thats sal rosenberg from jerky boyz

  • please

  • If you do this, I'll do you one these! And if you try some of that, I got a couple those for ya! My exploding Bhudda palm beats your flying arm scissor! Well my crossface arm-in neck crank beats your iron snake fist knuckle punch!

    All this is missing is someone flicking the light on and off yelling FIGHT fight FIGHT fight!!!!

    BJJ cats, get over yourselves, your art even more situational than WC.

    WC defenders, seriously? You gonna argue what works when you've never used it yourselves?

  • triangle right there, secondly what you do is u push with your legs a little bit to get weight off the arm, then you push the elbow to one side and pull ur legs back, causing them to collapse and what you also have there is an Arm triangle. The guy is simply a shitty, white belt at jiujitsu learning under an americanized purple belt...who probably trains at tenth planet.

  • @OffspringFTW65 LOL!

  • Omg guys you are so senselesss idiot fkers with no life!!!

    He was showing us a joke he created! be creative as him and come and comment.....not!

  • LMAO

  • HAHA THATS HOW U GET ARMBARRED

  • Que merda

    

  • jajajaja

    

  • lol his arm is completely exposed the guy could have taken his right leg swinged it around the other guys head and arm barred him

  • Well, this was disappointing! Funny, but...ah, screw it. Stay classy, guys. Stay classy.

  • lol guys its more like a troll video and the video creator got the best of most of you....most of you are angry and irritated follow by a "what you would do"

    the goal is already accomplished by the video creator

    the troll is successful

  • maybe a joke.. but it's one that sucks...

  • lol that was funny. the best way to beat any martial artist is to tickle them and whisper sweet nothings into their ear lmao. good vid guyz

  • ignore the negative comments, this actually made me lmao! Especially after seeing some of these real wing chun anti grappling videos. 

  • If your going to make a joke..make it funny..u just made an ass out of yourselfs

  • well if you applied wing chun correctly the elbow could crush the trachea by using the "no inch punch" that most wing chun students practice... if that was me i would have crushed the trachea but then again you guys were just only having fun... so peace !

  • @biloxipunk come to Hawaii, to BJ Penns gym in Hilo. Lets see how tough you are? My guess, I'll tap you in no time.

  • Don't get me wrong, pushing the elbow into the neck can help control an opponent but you are an idiot if you think that move by itselfimmobolises your opponent. From that position with your opponent will simply push on your elbow forcing it to the other side of his neck thus gaining control of the position. If BJJ was so pathetic it couldn't deal with that, it wouldn't be a martial art. So you my friend are a retard.

  • This is the dumbest thing i've ever seen somebody puts their forarm into my neck ill jus push their elbow inwards and i regain head control. People try that on me almost every time i roll

  • @k3vint0wn3r

    Yep, I know this video is just a joke(and a funny one too!)

    But it should be pretty obvious to anyone that this is not a legit technique.

    Noobs try this on me a lot too and I LOVE it when they do because it allows me to take their back LOL

    Just push their elbow to the side, off from your neck and wrap your arms around their neck.

    Then scoot your hips out, sweep them and take the back.

    Thanks noobs! LOL

  • This is the dumbest thing i've ever seen somebody puts their forarm into my neck ill jus push their elbow inwards and i regain head control. People try that on me almost every time i roll

  • I'm just voting up for the YEEEAEAAAAAAUURRH

  • ROFL 

  • Guys, it was a joke, look at their trapping at the beginning, lol. They probably practice bjj.

  • they can only joke about it because bjj wouldnt wanna embarrass wing chun in a real match situation bjj vs wing chun = wing dead / bjj WINNER!!! :D

  • Wow...so many fails below.

  • The fact that so many of you don't understand this is a joke is a real testament to the weak sense of humor possessed by the average martial artist.

    Get out more, guys, seriously.

  • @tenshirisu I thought this was hilarious.... but are you guys clowning WC, BJJ or both? Either way I definitely agree that everyone should lighten up

  • @Joneshing Mostly we were teasing WC, but were sadly surprised to discover that our BJJ confederates could not see through such an obvious joke.

  • @tenshirisu oh get a life. you meant for htis to be real but after the negative reaction you called it a joke to save face. Grow up

  • @YourBrainOnReIigion Nope, not even a little.

    Look at my other videos genius, I have been doing BJJ for over ten years.

  • @tenshirisu Oh I'm sorry, I forgot I was talking to a retard. Yeah you suck at wingchun and BJJ. haha

  • @YourBrainOnReIigion You aren't very good at this.

  • @tenshirisu Neither was your mother

  • @tenshirisu actually, most martial artists and people who train at the gym are very social and generally have more of a sense of humor than the average person who goes out and drinks all the time. and they can kick ur ass ;D

  • @NsFxViiRuS Eh, kinda sorta, but you wouldn't know it from reading these comments.

    Also, while I acknowledge many martial artists can kick my ass, as a martial artist myself I feel compelled to contend that I can kick my fair share of ass as well.

  • @tenshirisu the only joke here is wing chun lol

  • @tenshirisu yes who would of thought that so many senseis trol around youtube?

  • This guys are joking right ?! Never heard of an Triangle Choke.....Armbars in their lives ?....Even a Sweep could be easily made....and the ground and pound the Wing Chun dude....or go for a Submission...! The other guy wasn´t a BJJ practioner for sure !!!! LOLOL Nice laughs thou!

  • What joke, that was hardly BJJ.

  • Haha just to make sure your joking right?

  • Nope. You are a total moron. I hope you get in my guard some day

  • @JohnnyDOUCHETUBE and mine too. Doing that shit is ARM DRAGS GALORE ;)

  • Nope. You are a total moron. I hope you get in my guard some day

  • LOL! @ the video responses... (armbar)

  • if he used the momentum of the fall for a forearm strike to the throat and timed it to when your shoulders hit the ground he could crush your trachea. those wing chung guys have good reflexes and quick thinking, looks like hes practiced that forearm to the throat also one thing the rest of you havent mentioned maybe he knows BJJ too!! imagine wing chung punches from full mount, they'd stop it for unanswered blows all fast.

  • this video almost pissed me off ... then i though " no freaking way " hahaha . nice job fellas.

  • This is racist :( ok maybe not but still funny, I feel like I've commented before but w/e I'm cool enough to comment again

  • "totally fuckin imobilized!"....so fucking funny. damn you Wing Chun! this is my new favorite video....cant stop laughing...haha

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  • Haha tenshirisu you are officialy a dumbass. Obviously you have never done bjj in your life. This is directed to your comment saying "Seriously, if someone pulls guard all you honestly have to do is put your forearm in their neck and you've totally immobilized them." You my friend are way wrong. When you have someone in guard its called wrist control, and if some one puts their arm on your neck, so what? All you do is hip escape out and either sweep, or drive your knee to their chest

  • @22jermz Look at my other videos and consider how utterly stupid this comment makes you look.

  • @tenshirisu I´m afraid it´s you who´s looking utterly stupid, but if this is a joke then good job cause I guess it was mean to look that way. Any decent BJJ figher would grab your arm right there and you´d be moments away from an armbar, sweep, triangle or a list of numerous other moves.

  • @rokkvi1, dude, I teach BJJ.

    As an assistant instructor, but I teach it.

  • @tenshirisu then obviously this video is a joke and props to you.

  • @tenshirisu If you really do BJJ then this is obviously a joke, I apologize for my last comment, unless you are just saying you teach it to not look like a dumbass.

  • @tenshirisu 22jermz is correct - the arm does NOTHING and your comments reflect stupidity at best. Yes I have extensive experience, but none of it is required to see your video immobilization is total B.S. As for being impressed by your videos - why?

  • @QuesoChino Both of us in this video are BJJ instructors. This video is a joke poking fun at WC. The astounding thing is it has trolled out so many BJJ idiots who are too caught up in themselves to realize this is a joke.

    Unless you are trolling me- in which case, bravo- you are showing your own lack of experience and understanding by saying you have seen me grappling- regardless of whether or not you are "impressed"- in my other videos and yet somehow think that I am serious in this video.

  • @tenshirisu bjj instructors in what school? Stay away!. In any event - joke or not - excuse for joke or not - still b.s. as you admit yourself. Your a waste of time and sincerely hope you are more professional as an instructor. Your instructor role is a s joke as well right? glad to know it thanks.

  • @QuesoChino Thanks for the lecture, it's totally appreciated.

    I hope you have a better sense of humor in real life.

  • @tenshirisu ok, so now you have me initially in your guard; why can't I pivot, grap your legs with my hands and turn it into a full Boston Crab?

    I will call my video: Catch Wrestling Defeats the BJJ Guard. 

  • @RPenta First off, as I recall, Boston Crab is when you sit on their back and pull up on the legs right? 1. You shouldn't be able to just turn a grappler over onto their stomach. 2. How are you going to get your legs over ours so you can get on our back? 3. A good grappler should have pretty tight guard. I can usually hook my fight behind my knee when I have someone in guard, not just hook my ankles. 4. Your legs are exposed. Heel hook anyone? 5. Only place I've ever seen that work is WWE.

  • @RPenta In the Crab I have used my hands to lock your legs; your not getting a heel hook that way. The idea is to apply the hold as someone is trying to put you into the guard.

    By the way, this is being demoed i guess as two BJJ marks Bullshidoing Wing Tsun; actually the move works better as a strike not only to the throat which is potentially fatal but to the jaw.

    Hail to the Gracie Hunter!

  • @RPenta you should learn grappling. the things you described are fantasy.

  • @knownpornographer Grappling is important: so learn judo, hapkido, and catch wrestling; and stop reading Bullshido unless your a BJJ mark.

  • Dim Mak > All styles. Dim Mak is legal at Naga. I asked the ref.

  • well Wing chun actually comes up with solutions like this to beat bjj & MMA guys lol. bless them, !!!! they live in kung fu land .

  • I hear Royce Gracie tapped out to an ultrapattycake practitioner.

  • This is really funny

  • You dudes are hard case, all these comments taken yous seriously are dicks and probly training for the wrong reasons. Real wing chun finished off your first attack, real Bjj the same, dudes i know who do Bjj dont submit, they snap it off and yes it works in the street just like my fatshan. Aint seen no real chun on you tube yet, those with the know wont put it out. Peace from New Zealand

  • @MsBrodster That's called the 'no true scotsman argument'. Alan Orr is a functional Wing Chun instructor in the UK, he teaches Wing Chun and Catch wrestling. His student Aaron Baum has won a national title using wing chun and they have put it up on the internet.

  • @MsBrodster True "dat" what the FUCK: Man: where's the REAL: WING CHUN: neh?

    SERIOUSLY: WHat the FUCK: w/the POSEURS: man?

    The "FakerS" and HATERS: SERIOUSLY: I wanna SEE: HARD "WING CHUN" neh?

  • Talk about armbar or triangle choking much?

  • Dude thats amazing! Do the gracies know about this? Someone better break the news to them! Gently?

  • @wirybigstef Haha if you have really done bjj you would know that this does not work AT ALL. That guy who had him in guard is retarted. There are sooo many thing you do in guard, simply hip escape out, triangle, armbar, sweeps, if someone puts there arm on your throat and you know bjj, your gonna be putting him into an arm triangle and he's done

  • @22jermz the whole point of the video is to troll bjj practitioners and get us riled up. the guys in the video themselves do bjj and is purposing making this video because they themselves know the shit they post themselves doesnt work and they are baiting guys to "correct" them and get angry.

  • seriously the moment you put your forearm, we hip escape and will get your back and start hitting you like a mad men. that is a very wrong statement man...

  • @balannear Exactly, this guy is really ignorant lol this video and his comment is very frustrating.

  • @balannear This is just training. In a life or death situation you'd leopard strike the windpipe. You don't see real martial arts in MMA because they're killing arts, not homo-erotic wrestling.

  • @balannear

    It was a joke video, genius.

  • Get out of my mushu palace.

  • If you put your forearm on a BJJ student throat, he will likely put you in a classic arm or arm triangle choke.

  • totally gay

  • This video is fake. A true wing chun fighter has the destructive power of an atomic bomb.

  • Lmao! I hope to god people watching this really dont believe this defeats the guard....fucking joke

  • lol you guys look like little girls

  • lmao, you know how many times people use that crossface or crossthroat in bjj?

  • lol, its funny too see everybody bashing bjj, why? you would think that instead of bashing it you would mix it up with what style you already have. lol dont be ignorant, if you only train in stand up you are limiting yourself,and that just the truth!!!!

  • @HARDCOREMMA13 i agree its always good to have floor training, but dont forget that bjj is not the only floor art

  • @hendrikmarine bjj is not the only floor training you are right, russian sambo, submission wrestling, judo, pankration, small circle ju jitsu, all kinds all im saying is if you mix it up you will be more complete of a fighter

  • @HARDCOREMMA13 I agree 100% with you, but i dont like people who claim that floor arts are the best because they can beat anyone and blablabla, every art is complete by itself, but if you want to go further in your training, then it is intelligent to learn one of those martial arts you mentioned

  • @hendrikmarine

    i wouldnt so every art is complete, ground fighting is too effective to neglect at least defense of it, which the vast majority of martial arts doesn't address

  • @TruNikkaz I'm not saying every art has everything… In that case BJJ isn't complete because it doesn't have any disarms or whatever… I am saying that every art is complete, because every martial art was created for a purpose, and they accomplished it

  • @hendrikmarine

    i feel that any martial artist should dig deep into different styles

    but one of those styles should at least cover ground defense, bjj actually Does have disarms, but you really aren't taught those ever, aikido shine sin that dept. tho with those nice wrist-locks

  • @TruNikkaz I know, i do aikido TKD and kung fu

  • If someone pulls you into their guard and you press your forearm into their neck they will cleanly shrimp and rotate their hips, trap your shoulder, and snap your arm like a twig.

  • dumbest vid ever

  • Scrapbooking,Cooking,Cleaning,­Poledancing and Wing Chun =WOMENS SHIT!

  • Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Like i say, if your not having fun then why the hell are you training. Well done guys :)

  • You are hilarious.

    Never change.

  • @tenshirisu So how bout you actually learn before you put dumb shit like this on the internet :) there are sooo many things you can do from guard. you cant just put your arm on someones neck, its not that easy bro

  • @tenshirisu Haha you are officialy a dumbass. Obviously you have never done bjj in your life. This is directed to your comment saying "Seriously, if someone pulls guard all you honestly have to do is put your forearm in their neck and you've totally immobilized them." You my friend are way wrong. When you have someone in guard its called wrist control, and if some one puts their arm on your neck, so what? All you do is hip escape out and either sweep, or drive your knee to their chest

  • You wouldn't live to see the delight in a street fight with me. Just saying, grappling is all nice and fancy when you can't knuckle stab to the eye and use hammer fist against the neck or temple. I have been tackled so many times by wana be grapplers, some twice my weight, and I solved the problem with a swift dropping elbow to the center of the neck. If they don't expose the neck, try elbow to the temple or king hit. I have no scruple in gauging your eyes out either or kneeing you in the nuts.

  • @WarrenEdwardBuffet Go spout your macho nonsense elsewhere, it's stupid to destroy someone who's probably just a drunk dumb-ass who wants to beat somebody up, better to just throw him on his ass and give him a couple of kicks to the ribs, death/paralyzing techniques are best left alone, unless you want to end in jail that is... or to psychopaths who actually want to kill/maim people..

  • @Naudgsi I am just referring to BJJ. BJJ is very effective in MMA because of the millions of limitations put on other martial arts. My Martial Art is used for self-defense. Where I come from drunks kill people, OK? We have drugged and drunk teenage gangs attack innocent people on public trains all the time, and it does sometimes end with some innocent person getting killed.

    How BJJ, rolling with your head in his crotch can save you from 5 people I don't know. The only way is to disable them al

  • @WarrenEdwardBuffet HEY BRO ONCE IN A FIGHT I FUCKING ROUND HOUSE KICKED LIKE 4 GUYS AT ONCE IT WAS SO INTENSE BRO.

  • @cardboardtox Nah, I am sure you CAPS locked them with your trolling into submission. One at a time, right? Just be honest about your fighting style. Ain't no shame as long as you win.

  • two trolls

  • hahaha im totally fucking immobilised

  • hahaha 200,000 views nice one

  • gayest people alive

  • I would just kick him in the nuts while he is busy throwing judo chops.