You guys have to read this book. Its quite alarming as well. But hey. I am just saying this so this real ignorance can stop. The real ignorance not that "open minded ignorance".
God doesn't hate Gays or Lesbians. He says its an obomination. Therefore being gay or lesbian is already how they are paying the price for that sin. Something very interesting about the book i have been reading. Its called the Holy Bible. As what I used to be " a non believer" I would only go about how I feel or what I care about. Because thats what its about right....US. Self. For a book that has survived many many many years it has very interesting things.
Sweden and Canada already have same sex marriage. I dont know why people cant just be accepting and open-minded. We arent hurting you or anyone else by marrying someone we love. Love is Love and hopefully soon all the bigots out there will realize that.
the people that said that it affects them directly because they are 18 and 19 it doesnt affect them it affects the gay community not them. The people that run the schools and such even said that it was not going to be taught in school. Would they just give up if it was their right to get married being trampled on, no they would fight, so why do they expect us to just sit and take it that they want gay marriage to be illegel. The US is supposed to be the country that the world looks up to.
I find it VERY annoying when minorities discriminate against others who face the similar opression that they did some 50-90 years ago. Then find it even more annoying when they (blacks, mexicans, etc) complain about being discriminated out in society. If you are going to discriminate against another minority groups then DO NOT expect to be treated equally and cry out for help when others discriminate aginst your identity.
@eeavalos YEAH its so funny when those immigrants don't ASSIMILATE and understand basic FREEDOMS and the CIVIL RIGHTS movement and general US HISTORY rigth?????
Right??? Oops. Sucks when you are hypocritcal too. I bet you love immigrants until they disagree with you opinions right?????
The most harmful thing you can teach a child is religion. Caused every war and genocide and give 1000's of reasons to HATE and compartmentalise your fellow man. Good thing is that if you look at the figures religeon is slowly but SURELY dying and soon these idiots who think the earth is 4000 years old and eating lobster will commit your 'soul' to 'hell' will be a thing of the past. Your time has come.
To be quite honest all i saw were young people getting involed and hold up yes on 8 signs they didnt seem rude are forcefull to me. That man from no on 8 did try to come over and force his views on them. BTW i voted yes on 8 because i to dont belive on forceing gay belifs on children are society. I didnt know what gay was till i was 16 in highschool and now i see younger children are getting exposed to this and i think its sad. Having children isnt a right its a gift from god :)
@kellyannabama Why is forcing gay beliefs on a child any worse than forcing straight beliefs on them? i.e. talking to them about heterosexual sex when they are young. And has the knowledge that gay people exist somehow shattered your psyche, and made you unable to function? How is knowing that harmful or bad?
@kishbass children have gone years not knowing about homosexuality and now all of a sudden gay people want to wave their rainbow flag in a 4 years olds face. Why does a 4 year old need to learn about two man marrying each other. Just because you want people to accept the gay agenda dosent mean the majority of people wants those views forced on their kids. I dont know about you but i didn't know what being gay was till high school. And i truned out fine i just dont think we need to pressure kids
@kellyannabama no one is saying you have to tell a 4 year old anything. but not teaching kids at some point that there are other cultures and life styles leads to intolerance and hatred. finding out that two men have sex is no worse than finding out that a man and a woman have sex.
@kishbass Kids can find out about gay people the same way i did by living life. The truth is you want kids to know that being gay is a good life choice. You want to tell kids being gay is just like being straight, and you know damn well a mjority of people dont agree with that view. So you want to push it on their kids wow arent you patheic.....
@kishbass Man and Man having sex is vile point black, Only one thing comes out of that hole... Nothing is supposed to go in... I'd rather find out women and men have sex than man and man, Because well, It's the right way to do it, The Vagina is on a women for a reason.
@SeriouslyShane What do you mean "it's the right way to do it"? Are you talking about sex strictly for procreation? "Nothing is supposed to go in", so prostate exams are wrong and vile as well, because nothing is supposed to enter the anus? And even if you think it's a vile thing to do, what gives you the right to tell people who practice it that they can't be married?
@8GrantRantsUnited8 Yeah, i have a narrow view of religion when YOU Bible thumpers come around and tell me and also my gay brother that we are going to have gasoline poured on us and your Magical Sky Command daddy is going to lite the match!
I would say it is YOU that is narrow minded when you think that burning bushes and asps actually talked!
@fitasafiddle123 I'M A GAY JEW!!!! You totally misinterpreted what I had to say.
All that I meant is that you're thinking only about Christianity...there are a LOT of other religions out there, most of which condemn hatred. People use religion as a means of faith. If you don't believe it, that's okay, but to hate it so much is no better than them hating us.
@8GrantRantsUnited8 And btw, when you have Fred Phelsp (westboro babtist church) using slogans like "God Hates Fags" and then Pat Robertson saying gays are destroying the world, and oh yes, Fat Ass John Hagee stating that closets were meant for cloths not queers!!??
Can you somewhat see WHY i get pissy with religion?! sighhh
@fitasafiddle123 YOU'RE ONLY THINKING OF CHRISTIANITY!! There are PLENTY of other religions out there, dude, and only a small fraction of them are as extreme as Westboro Baptist and the like. You judge religion off of ONE principle, and not even close to the most important one. That's like saying you hate beef because you didn't like the barbecue sauce on a hamburger you tried.
Just wanted to say that you did a really nice job capturing this debate in action. You were very respectful at presenting it how it happened, and the ending was particularly powerful. xoxo NoH8
you know, these kinds of "battles" are very needed. exactly. we need to focus on saying yes or no on a religion inspired proposition rather than focus on the educational system and how it is failing to educate kids with learning disabilities. our opinions and our need to make this country perfect for "us" is colliding with making our country better. we need to focus on the country and not the opinions of the people in it. that being said, i am happy prop 8 is no longer.
@leSavaii The fact that it was on the ballot is a testament to the absurdity of the american people. The rights of the minority should never be up for vote by the majority. That's why I continue to say the biggest problem with America is that its full of Americans.
@bigbengamer..."That's why I continue to say the biggest problem with America is that its full of Americans"
FULL OF AMERICANS?...Then this gay/lesbian marriage right issue should have never occurred in the first place. You see real Americans (natives) never practiced such until these other Americans moved in & filled the land with their twisted same-sex issues. "God loves sinners & hates sins"
@leSavaii And by calling yourself an American, you completely prove my point. Americans today forgo the first amendment by allowing religion to influence government. If you disapprove of it, that's fine. But government has no place discriminating against people for their sexual orientation, especially when business can be fined and sued heavily for the same thing, and crime motivated by that same prejudice is considered a hate crime. Americans live on double standards. Be human above all else.
LeSavaii, I hate to interrupt your rant with reality, but just so you know, homosexuality was both common and accepted by "real Americans" (i.e., the natives).
@joenic40 What about the No on 8 people, have you even heard how some of the No on 8 protesters were vandalizing churches and even disrupting church services?
kraz13shadow. God, Himself, disagrees with you, so I hope you don't mind if the educated, rational, God-loving among us side with the Lord and the gays.
@GodCreatesGays2 well?: 1)Where did you get info on God,heaven and hell? 2)What is your gods name? 3)Explain salvation & where you learned of it. 4)How do you know of any of the teachings of Jesus? 5)From where do you derive your moral code? ANSWER or ADMIT YOU ARE: TOO AFRAID TO ANSWER TOO WEAK TO BE HONEST TOO STUPID TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. You like demeaning people yet are unable or too weak to answer basic questions.Thus,you are also exposed as a hypocrite
Kwil46, what's taking you so long to get professional psychiatrist help? Airing your mental "issues" and hallucinations on youtube will never help you get well, no matter how much idiocy you spew here. Just so you know.
Kelly, if you can admit the truth, that since you started to be a hypocrite, you have always been one, why are you too much of a weakling to take the next step, and get professional psychiatric help? If nothing else, wouldn't you want to be a real man for your so-called "fiance", Jing? Think about it.
LOL@kellyannabama, it's "rude" for minorities to demand all the same rights and privileges that you would demand for yourself? Telling kids that it's wrong to accept prejudice and ignorance, like you did by "living life", is supposed a negative? I'm afraid you've got more living, and A LOT more learning, to do.
@kellyannabama I personally believe that Christians are always shoving their views down my throat, and that it's rude. As such, I don't believe Christians should be allowed to marry.
@SabreUnit It wasn't serious. I was making a point. Pretty much anyone would say it would be ridiculous for gays to try to prevent Christians from marrying, I'm just saying that it should be equally ridiculous for Christians to try to prevent gays from marrying. Live and let live.
@yakovgolyadkin Yeahhhhhhh. Thats a great principle, until you start messing with OTHER people's principles.
Why not INVENT a new word and EVERYONE will be fine! Call it GARRIAGE!
Unfortuantely, gays want to FORCE hetereosexuals to ACCEPT them. I'm all for letting them do whatever, but Marriage and procreation must have a special place in society. Look at Europe. It is becoming dying because marriage, family and religion are losing importance.
@SabreUnit I want you to try something. Every argument you have against homosexuals, I want you to replace "gay" or "homosexual" with "black" and replace "straight" or "homosexual" with "white" and then see just how bigoted you sound.
For example: "Unfortunately, blacks want to FORCE whites to ACCEPT them." See what I mean?
And the point of marriage isn't procreation. You do realize that, right?
Yeahhhhhhh. Thats a great principle until you start messing with other people's principles.
Why not INVENT a new word and EVERYONE will be fine! Call it GARRIAGE!!
Unfortuantely, blacks want to FORCE whites to ACCEPT them. I'm all for letting them do whatever. but marriage and procreation must have a special place in society. Look at Europe. Its dying bc marriage, family and religion are losing importance.
I said they do whatever they want. Also Marriage is understood by MOST of the7BILLLIOOON people in the world as between a man and woman. So race has nothing to do with it.
@SabreUnit I'm not comparing slavery to sex. I'm comparing your attitudes towards giving homosexuals equal rights to the attitudes of people 60 years ago to giving blacks equal rights.
Your bigotry is no different, it's just more socially acceptable at the moment.
And just because the majority of the 6.8 billion people on the planet agree with you doesn't make you right. Remember, when interracial marriage was made legal, only 37% of the country supported it.
Still though, you have to find it fucking hilarious that BLACKS in the MAJORITY more than WHITES do not accept HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE or HOMOSEXUALITY.
Funny that African countries outlaw HOMOS!!!!
HAHAAH too fucking funny.
Oh thanks for saying that "majority does not equal right". Cause I hope you support the war in Iraq, Guantanomo Bay, and the death penalty. Which MOST of the WORLD was against.
Stop that Bigotry shit. Like your special or something.
@SabreUnit So you think that you are right because you agree with the antiquated tribal beliefs of Africans? Congrats, you think the same way as the least educated people on the planet. You must feel so smart.
I will not stop the bigotry shit. You are a bigot, and I will call you on it. You believe one group of people deserve less rights than you because you believe they are inferior to you. That makes you a bigot.
And what is it with you Christians who post online randomly capitalizing words?
@yakovgolyadkin Who said anyone was inferior??? Ha see you are driving yourself crazy thinking everyone is against you.
Again, those 'tribal beliefs' are shared among most of the world and even developed governments like Marxism-Leninists that you libs love.
Call me a bigot all day. All my friends, family, neighbors, countrymen and fellow humans DON"T see it that way, soooooo......they would laugh at you. HAHA!
I noticed you glossed over the Iraq, Gitmo, and death stuff.
@SabreUnit: If you don't believe that homosexuals are inferior, then why do you believe that they should be denied the same rights as everyone else?
Marxism-Leninists isn't even proper phrasing. I suspect you think that marxism = socialism = communism.
Just because your friends share your belief and laugh at me doesn't change the fact that you are no better than someone who walks around calling blacks "niggers".
@SabreUnit As far as the Iraq/GITMO stuff goes, you yourself used a logical fallacy:
"Cause I hope you support the war in Iraq, Guantanomo Bay, and the death penalty. Which MOST of the WORLD was against."
I said that the majority isn't always right. You then tried to use that to claim that the majority is therefore always wrong.
The majority can be right and the majority can be wrong. You using the majority opinion do justify any belief doesn't make your opinion any more or less accurate.
Why do yes on 8 people say they have friends who are gay and you don't care about what they do? They are liers and no friend to any gay person. are hateful people. How many of these women have a man who left them with a baby to raise on their own.
Homosexuality and Lesbianisim is believed to be wrong,and I guess it IS wrong by God's Law,but I also believe that Same-Sex Marriages should happen,because of Free Will and Choice for one,and as Americans,we are granted the righ to Life,Liberty,and the Pursuit of Happiness,and there are no set Limitations on that at all,and you should have those three rights anyway and always if you believe achieving those three means building,or destroying your life.We should always have that right,even Gays.
She has homosexual friends? I wonder if they are still friends. I would hope so because, I mean, I know that they are from completely different sides. But, really, I feel like people shouldn't have to hate each other because they stand on different sides of the road. One last thing. SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE! SEPARATION OF OPINION AND GOVERNMENT! SERIOUSLY, F*** YOUR OPINIONS! I respect them, but they make no F***ING DIFFERENCE TO THE WORLD!!!! SCREW THE HUMAN RACE! yes i know that means me
lmao like theres not enough children in orphans. like theres not teen girls getting pregnet and not know what to do with the baby. if you support prop H8 then you support over population.
A family unit is 2 parents carings for kids. I know people who were raised by 2 moms/dads, if they weren't then they would be in the system known as Foster Care.
Anti-marriage? My mom and dad's marriage wouldn't be compromised, affected or destroyed if 2 men/women get married.
About the religion part, I don't see why religious beliefs should entirely interfere with what others who don't share the beliefs can do.
@thetruth6789 and give me one reason why it is specific to heterosexual couples that is not rooted in some way to religious allegiance, in stead of protecting a fellow taxpaying american citizen's right to be recognized in the eyes of the law as an equal.
think this through, why does it bother you. there is so much false sensationalism clouding around the yes on 8's grapevine. So much of it is lies and can be plainly exposed as such. why grip at a straw when the truth is accesible? thetruth ha!
@malibulanlan " in stead of protecting a fellow taxpaying american citizen's right to be recognized in the eyes of the law as an equal"
-Oh, great this terrible argument again. Homosexuals have the same rights and benefits as anyone else, under civil unions, marriage does not grant any rights or benefits, are you retarded? Do you know anything about civil unions and marriage?
Thetruth6789 contends, "Homosexuals have the same rights and benefits as anyone else, under civil unions, marriage does not grant any rights or benefits,"
Interesting that someone with "truth" in his screen name would post an outright lie, although we could give him the benefit of the doubt and assume his idiotic comments are borne out of...complete, abject retardation. Which seems quite likely, reading his absurd posts.
@malibulanlan I hate having to explain this simple fact all the time to ignorant pro-gay marriage idiots like you. The typical pro-gay marriage supporter knows nothing about the cause they are supporting and are swayed by emotion and lies perpetuated by pro-gay marriage commercials.
Sadly, the anti-gay zealots long ago lost the ability to think for themselves, or even think rationally. They babble incoherently about why minorities should be denied equal rights, based on the arbitrary dictates of their OWN, personally- hosen religious lifestyle. They have no rational basis to fight against equal rights for gays, anymore than they did when they fought against allowing blacks to marry, or against interracial marriage & integrating schools. They are fueled by mindless bigotry.
@malibulanlan " there is so much false sensationalism clouding around the yes on 8's grapevine. So much of it is lies and can be plainly exposed as such"
@thetruth6789 No it's not, you're logic failed int he courtroom when prop 8 was struck down as unconstitutional. The case you make ultimately fails because it's focused more on religious nonsense that actual substance in argument, so what if four million Californians voted in favor of it? The constitution was made to protect minorities from the crushing will of the majority, and as long as it stands Judeo Christian bullshit will continue to wane in influence.
@kmelfina "About the religion part, I don't see why religious beliefs should entirely interfere with what others who don't share the beliefs can do"
-To get married you must adhere to Christianity, that is why you must be baptized before you get married. Religious beliefs are the basis for marriage, religion itself is the governing force in marriage.
Thetruth6789 babbles, "To get married you must adhere to Christianity"
The Jews, Muslims, and atheists who have been joined in matrimony might disagree with you, but hey! Don't let reality and facts deter your delusional rants. They are actually quite amusing.
@GodCreatesGays2 To enter kiddushin(Jewish matrimony) you must adhere to Judaism. To enter zawaj you must adhere to Islam. I wouldn't expect you to know about other religions, since you're an ignorant homosexual pro-gay marriage baffoon. Since the only religion you homosexuals attack and the only thing you talk about is Christianity, then we talk about marriage, not kiddushin or zawaj. You homosexuals know that Christians are accepting and good/nice people, so they are easy targets for you.
6789, I must also point out another area in which your bigotry and mindlessness are on display. You assume that I must be gay, simply because, crippled by your own limited intellectual resources, you cannot comprehend or cope with people who are NOT bigoted, and who do NOT choose to remain uneducated (and let me make it clear: your studied ignorance is indeed a lifestyle choice). I can easily school you on the internet, but may I suggest you try getting an education in the real world?
@GodCreatesGays2 You wouldn't try to attack Jews or change the institutions of kiddushin or zawaj, because the Jews and Muslims would cut you homos down so quick. But it's A-ok for you to attack Christians, because they are accepting and very nice people, regardless of the false things you say about them.
6789, if you could try to be rational and work within the realm of reality, for just a moment, you may actually learn something. I never said anything negative against "Christians", that's a paranoid delusion fueled by your overheated imagination. Nor did I ever say I wanted to "change" the institution of Christianity, even though some of you who claim to adhere to the religion DO need to be in an institution. Perhaps the crux of your problem is that you cannot decipher what you read & hear.
@GodCreatesGays2 Yeah sure keep telling people you're not gay, you wouldn't create an account and spend hours upon hours arguing about this subject if it wasn't for your benefit or didn't include you.
Thetruth6789, as your fragile...mind teeters precariously on the brink of oblivion, all I can do is point out the reality to you. Whether or not you can cope with the truth is another matter. I can lead a horse to water, but I cannot make him drink, just as I can lead you to reality but cannot make you think. You don't "have to" agree with God and me on the gay issue. He can deny the Lord's wisdom all you want. Having free will, it is your own choice to damn yourself to hell.
Kelly, are you STILL on crack? Wasn't the point of being institutionalized to get you clean and sober, so you could think straight and stop such deviant, anti-social behavior?
@GodCreatesGays2 well?: 1)Where did you get info on God,heaven and hell? 2)What is your gods name? 3)Explain salvation & where you learned of it. 4)How do you know of any of the teachings of Jesus? 5)From where do you derive your moral code? ANSWER or ADMIT YOU ARE TOO AFRAID TO ANSWER TOO WEAK TO BE HONEST TOO STUPID TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. You like demeaning people yet are unable or too weak to answer basic questions.Thus,you are also exposed as a hypocrite
Its reassuring to know you are still too weak to answer my basic questions and that you epitomize the ignorance and hatred of those like you. Thanks again for the admission that you are content to be bested by me and will never answer my questions. Hypocrisy = YOU = Hypocrisy
Kelly, those hallucinations alone should compel you to get extensive, immediate psychological care. Is THIS the way you want to be...forever? No wonder you can't get an adult woman to tolerate you. For your own sake, reach out for help.
More inane nonsense from the weak . And yet you are still afraid to answer my questions.Your hatred calls for you to disparage and lie while your weakness prevents you from just answering.
well?: 1)Where did you get info on God,heaven and hell?
2)What is your gods name?
3)Explain salvation & where you learned of it.
4)How do you know of any of the teachings of Jesus?
5)From where do you derive your moral code? ANSWER or ADMIT YOU ARE
Kelly, if you ADMIT that you keep posting "more inane nonsense", then why do you do it? have you been examined for OCD? I have been very patient with you, and the altruist in my DOES want you to get well, but if you never even try to help yourself, I'm afraid your deviant behavior and anti-social hysteria will destroy the rest of your life. Just some food for thought, since you are obviously starving.
You equate my seeking an answer from you with "....deviant behavior and anti-social hysteria..". I guess thats par for a person of your weak demeanor and hypocritical nature.
well?:
1)Where did you get info on God,heaven and hell?
2)What is your gods name?
3)Explain salvation & where you learned of it.
4)How do you know of any of the teachings of Jesus?
No, Kelly. I equate your deviant behavior and continued hysterical, anti-social behavior with...well, with your insanity. You've already received answers to your questions. Your being unable to cope with the reality explained to you is just another symptom of your mental problems. I offer this gentle-but-accurate rebuke out of Christian compassion. Get help quick. Your "mind" is deteriorating at an alarming rate.
@GodCreatesGays2 "Your "mind" is deteriorating at an alarming rate." REALLY? Then why is it that YOU are the one unable to answer my basic questions? Seems I have bested you even with a deteriorating mind.Says alot about your mind then. well?: 1)Where did you get info on God,heaven and hell? 2)What is your gods name? 3)Explain salvation & where you learned of it. 4)How do you know of any of the teachings of Jesus? 5)From where do you derive your moral code?
I know how you hate honesty(most hypocrites do),but all I am asking is for you to answer my questions. You beat your chest and pompously moan,but you have yet to answer a single question of mine. All this could be settled if you would just answer.I dont have to like your answers, but that is a moot point.YOU are too weak and afraid to answer me for,in so doing,you will expose yourself as a liar.
Thank you and we still await the day you learn to honestly answer.
@GodCreatesGays2 You think anyone who is upholding their thousand year old traditions bigoted from attackers such as you, in reality you are the bigot here.
@Trevrz1 im assuming you like ridiculing others for being fat because you're over weight and you dont want to look too down on yourself so you decide to criticize others? well listen, in the time it takes you to do that, you could be losing some extra baggage. think about it
i love how all these damn fn mexicans are all for yes on 8,but right when a law about illegals comes about,all hell brakes loose for them.fu mexicans in this video..GOD will get u on his time.and to the fat lady sittin throughout the video,plz stay home...ur hella ugly...im serious!
@musik287 "i love how all these damn fn mexicans are all for yes on 8"
-How do you know they're Mexican illegals?. You're a fucking idiot. Not surprised to see a homosexual pro-gay no on prop 8 supporter to be ethnophobic.
@thetruth6789 look at u,u a big girl now,all the big words that ur writing down..what was that? Arizona jus called n they need to verify that ur a legal.fuck u mexicans.i love Arizona...laws that is.again,i repeat..fuck you mexicans.all u do in my state is lay on ur back n pop out kids n my fuckin tax payer money is wasted.dont get me started on mex. men..talk about fuckin useless
@musik287 Oh look a Central American shit stain typing incoherent sentences, that make absolutely no sense, tell your disgusting people to stop hopping trains and stop spreading tuberculosis.
@musik287 I'm very positive you're not a U.S. citizen, just by the way you type. You are very uenducated, ignorant and you can not argue without insulting like a child.
@musik287 Like I said a million times, not all illegal immigrants are Mexican, why can't your nigger ass comprehend this simple fact?. The majority of illegal immigrants are from Central America, you have something against Mexican-Americans for some reason. I think one raped you or kicked your ass and now you hate them all. Also it's pretty evident that you're uneducated and illiterate if the words I used in my previous comment seem "big" to you, get educated negroid.
@thetruth6789 LOL.. u think im black? way off..try again.and really dude,this is fuckin youtube and i have every right to write down what i would like to say..with that in mind,get a life!!! yall jus be wastin air.and some of us have to work in order for the whore ass mexicans that jus lay on their backs n pop babies out to get my mother fuckin tax payer money...ha ha ha for all you yes on 8 little bitches,it was overturned.fu cath-o-lics..and ofcourse u piss ass mormons.lol,u think im black.lol
@musik287 ' yall jus be wastin air.and some of us have to work in order for the whore ass mexicans that jus lay on their backs n pop babies out to get my mother fuckin tax payer money"
-Blacks don't work or pay taxes, and you seem to think all Hispanics are Mexican, what do you have against Mexicans?. You should be against Salvadorans and all Central Americans they are the ones who bring violence and crime to the U.S. with their MS13 gang.
Also, notice the fat woman accuses the pro-prop 8 demonstrators of hate speech and the anti-prop 8 guy comes over the the pro-prop 8 demonstrators and starts an argument. Seems like the anti-prop 8 demonstrators are the intolerant liars.
@jefe241 your comment doesnt really make sense, you're right it's the younger people who are mostly democrats, but the democrats are the ones who support gay marriage, while republicans are against it. religions are usually conservatives. you're totally mixing up your staightment
@jefe241 Your comment didn't make sense. The younger people were pro-prop 8 in this video (making them more conservative on the issue) than the older demonstrators who were against prop 8. In this instance, it appears the liberals are older white women and gay men who are probably gentrifying the younger hispanic catholics' Oakland neighborhood. The hispanics are pro-prop 8 because I'd imagine they are catholic.
You have gay friends, but you don't want them to get the right to marry each other....how does that work? Are you sure they're your friends? lol
PinaColada4645 2 months ago
Oh no she didn't! She pulled out the "I have gay friends" line!
macrent2 4 months ago
You guys have to read this book. Its quite alarming as well. But hey. I am just saying this so this real ignorance can stop. The real ignorance not that "open minded ignorance".
hugoboss0011 5 months ago
God doesn't hate Gays or Lesbians. He says its an obomination. Therefore being gay or lesbian is already how they are paying the price for that sin. Something very interesting about the book i have been reading. Its called the Holy Bible. As what I used to be " a non believer" I would only go about how I feel or what I care about. Because thats what its about right....US. Self. For a book that has survived many many many years it has very interesting things.
hugoboss0011 5 months ago
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marriage is between a man and a woman. i will never support gay marriage. i will never see them as married people.
babasmomma 7 months ago
Sweden and Canada already have same sex marriage. I dont know why people cant just be accepting and open-minded. We arent hurting you or anyone else by marrying someone we love. Love is Love and hopefully soon all the bigots out there will realize that.
10HitsugayaToshiro 7 months ago 2
@10HitsugayaToshiro Î am from sweden tehee
motorez1 6 months ago
the people that said that it affects them directly because they are 18 and 19 it doesnt affect them it affects the gay community not them. The people that run the schools and such even said that it was not going to be taught in school. Would they just give up if it was their right to get married being trampled on, no they would fight, so why do they expect us to just sit and take it that they want gay marriage to be illegel. The US is supposed to be the country that the world looks up to.
10HitsugayaToshiro 7 months ago
I find it VERY annoying when minorities discriminate against others who face the similar opression that they did some 50-90 years ago. Then find it even more annoying when they (blacks, mexicans, etc) complain about being discriminated out in society. If you are going to discriminate against another minority groups then DO NOT expect to be treated equally and cry out for help when others discriminate aginst your identity.
eeavalos 9 months ago
@eeavalos YEAH its so funny when those immigrants don't ASSIMILATE and understand basic FREEDOMS and the CIVIL RIGHTS movement and general US HISTORY rigth?????
Right??? Oops. Sucks when you are hypocritcal too. I bet you love immigrants until they disagree with you opinions right?????
HAHAHHAHA the irony!!!!!!!!!! Too great.
SabreUnit 9 months ago
The most harmful thing you can teach a child is religion. Caused every war and genocide and give 1000's of reasons to HATE and compartmentalise your fellow man. Good thing is that if you look at the figures religeon is slowly but SURELY dying and soon these idiots who think the earth is 4000 years old and eating lobster will commit your 'soul' to 'hell' will be a thing of the past. Your time has come.
twattyboz 9 months ago
To be quite honest all i saw were young people getting involed and hold up yes on 8 signs they didnt seem rude are forcefull to me. That man from no on 8 did try to come over and force his views on them. BTW i voted yes on 8 because i to dont belive on forceing gay belifs on children are society. I didnt know what gay was till i was 16 in highschool and now i see younger children are getting exposed to this and i think its sad. Having children isnt a right its a gift from god :)
kellyannabama 11 months ago
@kellyannabama Why is forcing gay beliefs on a child any worse than forcing straight beliefs on them? i.e. talking to them about heterosexual sex when they are young. And has the knowledge that gay people exist somehow shattered your psyche, and made you unable to function? How is knowing that harmful or bad?
kishbass 10 months ago
@kishbass children have gone years not knowing about homosexuality and now all of a sudden gay people want to wave their rainbow flag in a 4 years olds face. Why does a 4 year old need to learn about two man marrying each other. Just because you want people to accept the gay agenda dosent mean the majority of people wants those views forced on their kids. I dont know about you but i didn't know what being gay was till high school. And i truned out fine i just dont think we need to pressure kids
kellyannabama 10 months ago
@kellyannabama no one is saying you have to tell a 4 year old anything. but not teaching kids at some point that there are other cultures and life styles leads to intolerance and hatred. finding out that two men have sex is no worse than finding out that a man and a woman have sex.
kishbass 10 months ago
@kishbass Kids can find out about gay people the same way i did by living life. The truth is you want kids to know that being gay is a good life choice. You want to tell kids being gay is just like being straight, and you know damn well a mjority of people dont agree with that view. So you want to push it on their kids wow arent you patheic.....
kellyannabama 10 months ago
@kishbass Man and Man having sex is vile point black, Only one thing comes out of that hole... Nothing is supposed to go in... I'd rather find out women and men have sex than man and man, Because well, It's the right way to do it, The Vagina is on a women for a reason.
SeriouslyShane 9 months ago
@SeriouslyShane @kishbass Blank*
SeriouslyShane 9 months ago
@SeriouslyShane What do you mean "it's the right way to do it"? Are you talking about sex strictly for procreation? "Nothing is supposed to go in", so prostate exams are wrong and vile as well, because nothing is supposed to enter the anus? And even if you think it's a vile thing to do, what gives you the right to tell people who practice it that they can't be married?
kishbass 9 months ago
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Yes on 8. Pure ignorance
rocksteadyvibe89 11 months ago
Thats it, bring in the FUCKING Bible and more fairy tale beliefs.
Religion is a FUCKING POISON in the hearts and minds of man.
Adam and Eve.....pffft, what ever...morons
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123 You, sir, have a very narrow view of religion.
8GrantRantsUnited8 11 months ago
@8GrantRantsUnited8 Yeah, i have a narrow view of religion when YOU Bible thumpers come around and tell me and also my gay brother that we are going to have gasoline poured on us and your Magical Sky Command daddy is going to lite the match!
I would say it is YOU that is narrow minded when you think that burning bushes and asps actually talked!
Shake your head pal!
fitasafiddle123 11 months ago
@fitasafiddle123 I'M A GAY JEW!!!! You totally misinterpreted what I had to say.
All that I meant is that you're thinking only about Christianity...there are a LOT of other religions out there, most of which condemn hatred. People use religion as a means of faith. If you don't believe it, that's okay, but to hate it so much is no better than them hating us.
8GrantRantsUnited8 11 months ago
@8GrantRantsUnited8 A gay jew? Ok....so, i guess your religion somewhat frowns on something you can help?!
I have a narrow view of religion, probably, because i avoid it at all costs and i do just dandy without the nonsense!
Most religions consider gays an abomination!? What else would i think??
No offense!
fitasafiddle123 11 months ago
@8GrantRantsUnited8 And btw, when you have Fred Phelsp (westboro babtist church) using slogans like "God Hates Fags" and then Pat Robertson saying gays are destroying the world, and oh yes, Fat Ass John Hagee stating that closets were meant for cloths not queers!!??
Can you somewhat see WHY i get pissy with religion?! sighhh
fitasafiddle123 11 months ago
@fitasafiddle123 YOU'RE ONLY THINKING OF CHRISTIANITY!! There are PLENTY of other religions out there, dude, and only a small fraction of them are as extreme as Westboro Baptist and the like. You judge religion off of ONE principle, and not even close to the most important one. That's like saying you hate beef because you didn't like the barbecue sauce on a hamburger you tried.
8GrantRantsUnited8 11 months ago
@8GrantRantsUnited8 Yes, but the BASIS of all the hateful religions is just that, RELIGION.
...religion is the biggest con to man! (as far as i am concerned)
Faith is one thing, religion is another.
fitasafiddle123 11 months ago
Fuck Prop H8te and fuck MORMONS. Assholes
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
Just wanted to say that you did a really nice job capturing this debate in action. You were very respectful at presenting it how it happened, and the ending was particularly powerful. xoxo NoH8
Cassiejaye 1 year ago
you know, these kinds of "battles" are very needed. exactly. we need to focus on saying yes or no on a religion inspired proposition rather than focus on the educational system and how it is failing to educate kids with learning disabilities. our opinions and our need to make this country perfect for "us" is colliding with making our country better. we need to focus on the country and not the opinions of the people in it. that being said, i am happy prop 8 is no longer.
callidad 1 year ago
"I have friends who are homosexuals"
Not anymore you don't.
bigbengamer 1 year ago
Gay/lesbian marriage was never allowed in California. A judge tried to legalized it but the Californians stood firm by voting
leSavaii 1 year ago
@leSavaii The fact that it was on the ballot is a testament to the absurdity of the american people. The rights of the minority should never be up for vote by the majority. That's why I continue to say the biggest problem with America is that its full of Americans.
bigbengamer 1 year ago
@bigbengamer..."That's why I continue to say the biggest problem with America is that its full of Americans"
FULL OF AMERICANS?...Then this gay/lesbian marriage right issue should have never occurred in the first place. You see real Americans (natives) never practiced such until these other Americans moved in & filled the land with their twisted same-sex issues. "God loves sinners & hates sins"
leSavaii 1 year ago
@leSavaii And by calling yourself an American, you completely prove my point. Americans today forgo the first amendment by allowing religion to influence government. If you disapprove of it, that's fine. But government has no place discriminating against people for their sexual orientation, especially when business can be fined and sued heavily for the same thing, and crime motivated by that same prejudice is considered a hate crime. Americans live on double standards. Be human above all else.
bigbengamer 1 year ago
LeSavaii, I hate to interrupt your rant with reality, but just so you know, homosexuality was both common and accepted by "real Americans" (i.e., the natives).
Education is NOT the enemy.
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
Rational: that belief/religion should have NEVER been introduced by government.
States should have NO MARRIAGE FOR ANYONE - just civil unions for all.
If you want a gay marriage, marriage by Elvis, whatever - thats you're business outside of government.
Gays are guilty too of trying to impose their views on others too - it shouldnt matter.
This is a great example of why separation of church and state works and why it avoids problems like this.
jabberwolf 1 year ago
Figures the Yes on 8 people are all trashy and low class.
joenic40 1 year ago
@joenic40 What about the No on 8 people, have you even heard how some of the No on 8 protesters were vandalizing churches and even disrupting church services?
andrewiscool100able 1 year ago
NO on 8 YAAAAY!!!
misseurGaga 1 year ago
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@misseurGaga YES on 8 YAAAAY!!!
andrewiscool100able 1 year ago
@andrewiscool100able yes on communism yaaaay
is really what your saying
idaman12345 1 year ago
sorry gays, but marriage is between a MAN AND A WOMAN bhahahahhahaha...
kraz13shadow 1 year ago
kraz13shadow. God, Himself, disagrees with you, so I hope you don't mind if the educated, rational, God-loving among us side with the Lord and the gays.
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
kwil46 1 year ago
Kwil46, what's taking you so long to get professional psychiatrist help? Airing your mental "issues" and hallucinations on youtube will never help you get well, no matter how much idiocy you spew here. Just so you know.
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
@GodCreatesGays2
Once a hypocrite, always a hypocrite.
Once a weak & fearful person, always a weak & fearful person.
NO?? THEN ANSWER:
1)Where did you get info on God,heaven and hell?
2)What is your gods name?
3)Explain salvation & where you learned of it.
4)How do you know of any of the teachings of Jesus?
5)From where do you derive your moral code?
You beat your chest and pompously moan,but you have yet to answer a single question of mine.
kwil46 1 year ago
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Kelly, if you can admit the truth, that since you started to be a hypocrite, you have always been one, why are you too much of a weakling to take the next step, and get professional psychiatric help? If nothing else, wouldn't you want to be a real man for your so-called "fiance", Jing? Think about it.
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
@kraz13shadow I agree, I mean gays do deserve to be happy but they shouldnt shove it down everyone else's throats.
andrewiscool100able 1 year ago
@andrewiscool100able the only ones shoving anything down others throats in fact is the anti gay groups
idaman12345 1 year ago
@idaman12345 Please stop replying to my posts.
andrewiscool100able 1 year ago
@andrewiscool100able quit posting bs and lies, then well have no problems
idaman12345 1 year ago
@andrewiscool100able i agree with you, gay people are allways shoving their views down your thorat and its rude. Thats why i voted yes on 8 :)
kellyannabama 10 months ago
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thegoodtwin000 10 months ago
LOL@kellyannabama, it's "rude" for minorities to demand all the same rights and privileges that you would demand for yourself? Telling kids that it's wrong to accept prejudice and ignorance, like you did by "living life", is supposed a negative? I'm afraid you've got more living, and A LOT more learning, to do.
GodCreatesGays2 10 months ago
@kellyannabama I personally believe that Christians are always shoving their views down my throat, and that it's rude. As such, I don't believe Christians should be allowed to marry.
yakovgolyadkin 9 months ago
@yakovgolyadkin Good luck with that. If you did that I'm pretty sure they would freak out and kill you.
But who could force them? And if so aren't you violating your own principle of trying to act civil and persuade people not FORCE people?
SabreUnit 9 months ago
@SabreUnit It wasn't serious. I was making a point. Pretty much anyone would say it would be ridiculous for gays to try to prevent Christians from marrying, I'm just saying that it should be equally ridiculous for Christians to try to prevent gays from marrying. Live and let live.
yakovgolyadkin 9 months ago
@yakovgolyadkin Yeahhhhhhh. Thats a great principle, until you start messing with OTHER people's principles.
Why not INVENT a new word and EVERYONE will be fine! Call it GARRIAGE!
Unfortuantely, gays want to FORCE hetereosexuals to ACCEPT them. I'm all for letting them do whatever, but Marriage and procreation must have a special place in society. Look at Europe. It is becoming dying because marriage, family and religion are losing importance.
In comes the Middle Eastern hordes.
SabreUnit 9 months ago
@SabreUnit I want you to try something. Every argument you have against homosexuals, I want you to replace "gay" or "homosexual" with "black" and replace "straight" or "homosexual" with "white" and then see just how bigoted you sound.
For example: "Unfortunately, blacks want to FORCE whites to ACCEPT them." See what I mean?
And the point of marriage isn't procreation. You do realize that, right?
yakovgolyadkin 9 months ago
@yakovgolyadkin Okay.....
Yeahhhhhhh. Thats a great principle until you start messing with other people's principles.
Why not INVENT a new word and EVERYONE will be fine! Call it GARRIAGE!!
Unfortuantely, blacks want to FORCE whites to ACCEPT them. I'm all for letting them do whatever. but marriage and procreation must have a special place in society. Look at Europe. Its dying bc marriage, family and religion are losing importance.
In comes the Middle Eastern hordes.
So.....what now
SabreUnit 9 months ago
@yakovgolyadkin So i did replace the terms.
I said they do whatever they want. Also Marriage is understood by MOST of the7BILLLIOOON people in the world as between a man and woman. So race has nothing to do with it.
Ask Muslims, Jews, Christains, immigrants, etc.
So.......you lose.
SabreUnit 9 months ago
@yakovgolyadkin ALSOO I WANT YOU TO TRY THIS>
Get Obama and Congress to allow Gay marriage.
I bet MOST of Congress will say NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Obama won't legalize gay marriage. I'm ok with civil unions.
Also don't compare centuries of BLACK SLAVERY to FUCKING GAY BUTT SEX!!!!!
You idiot.
SabreUnit 9 months ago
@SabreUnit I'm not comparing slavery to sex. I'm comparing your attitudes towards giving homosexuals equal rights to the attitudes of people 60 years ago to giving blacks equal rights.
Your bigotry is no different, it's just more socially acceptable at the moment.
And just because the majority of the 6.8 billion people on the planet agree with you doesn't make you right. Remember, when interracial marriage was made legal, only 37% of the country supported it.
yakovgolyadkin 9 months ago
@yakovgolyadkin
Still though, you have to find it fucking hilarious that BLACKS in the MAJORITY more than WHITES do not accept HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE or HOMOSEXUALITY.
Funny that African countries outlaw HOMOS!!!!
HAHAAH too fucking funny.
Oh thanks for saying that "majority does not equal right". Cause I hope you support the war in Iraq, Guantanomo Bay, and the death penalty. Which MOST of the WORLD was against.
Stop that Bigotry shit. Like your special or something.
Stop being gay.
SabreUnit 9 months ago
@SabreUnit So you think that you are right because you agree with the antiquated tribal beliefs of Africans? Congrats, you think the same way as the least educated people on the planet. You must feel so smart.
I will not stop the bigotry shit. You are a bigot, and I will call you on it. You believe one group of people deserve less rights than you because you believe they are inferior to you. That makes you a bigot.
And what is it with you Christians who post online randomly capitalizing words?
yakovgolyadkin 9 months ago
@yakovgolyadkin Who said anyone was inferior??? Ha see you are driving yourself crazy thinking everyone is against you.
Again, those 'tribal beliefs' are shared among most of the world and even developed governments like Marxism-Leninists that you libs love.
Call me a bigot all day. All my friends, family, neighbors, countrymen and fellow humans DON"T see it that way, soooooo......they would laugh at you. HAHA!
I noticed you glossed over the Iraq, Gitmo, and death stuff.
Logic trap.
SabreUnit 9 months ago
@SabreUnit: If you don't believe that homosexuals are inferior, then why do you believe that they should be denied the same rights as everyone else?
Marxism-Leninists isn't even proper phrasing. I suspect you think that marxism = socialism = communism.
Just because your friends share your belief and laugh at me doesn't change the fact that you are no better than someone who walks around calling blacks "niggers".
yakovgolyadkin 9 months ago
@SabreUnit As far as the Iraq/GITMO stuff goes, you yourself used a logical fallacy:
"Cause I hope you support the war in Iraq, Guantanomo Bay, and the death penalty. Which MOST of the WORLD was against."
I said that the majority isn't always right. You then tried to use that to claim that the majority is therefore always wrong.
The majority can be right and the majority can be wrong. You using the majority opinion do justify any belief doesn't make your opinion any more or less accurate.
yakovgolyadkin 9 months ago
lol the after school funding woman
CAYOMluver 1 year ago 2
yes.
we kinda got stuck on yes and doing good that year so we voted accordingly.
TOXIC00L 1 year ago
Yayyyy we won!!! Prop 8 overturned... next step, every other state :)
RodTalon0000 1 year ago
@RodTalon0000 FAGGOT PROP 8 WILL BE RECALLED AND WE WILL WIN YES ON PROP 8 YOU FAGGOTS ARE GOING TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!
adultdreams40 1 year ago
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@adultdreams40, take your meds.
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
these yes on 8 people make me feel a loss of hope for america
njj37 1 year ago
I say Bann all Religions,
they are just religious biggots,
they have no proof and evidence to say its wrong
and they have no proof and evidence 4 a god,
RealityGameWorld 1 year ago
@RealityGameWorld
shocker! That's the only thing enemies of prop 8 can say... bigot!!!
thomasadamnelson 1 year ago
@thomasadamnelson
WHY DO U HAVE SUCH A PROBELM WITH WITH GAY MARRIAGE
RealityGameWorld 1 year ago
@thomasadamnelson dont have to be an enemy of prop 8 to hate religion
any sane person does that
idaman12345 1 year ago
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@RealityGameWorld You Will Soon Go to Hell if You Don't believe
REDHALO3MEMBER99 1 year ago
By the way Oakland and Kalifornia in general is one gigantic shithole
viletree 1 year ago
LOL AFTER SCHOOL FUNDING
MilkTeaStains 1 year ago
Why do yes on 8 people say they have friends who are gay and you don't care about what they do? They are liers and no friend to any gay person. are hateful people. How many of these women have a man who left them with a baby to raise on their own.
db1burns01 1 year ago
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db1burns01 1 year ago
Homosexuality and Lesbianisim is believed to be wrong,and I guess it IS wrong by God's Law,but I also believe that Same-Sex Marriages should happen,because of Free Will and Choice for one,and as Americans,we are granted the righ to Life,Liberty,and the Pursuit of Happiness,and there are no set Limitations on that at all,and you should have those three rights anyway and always if you believe achieving those three means building,or destroying your life.We should always have that right,even Gays.
liw213 1 year ago
@liw213 Why does marriage make homosexuals happy? It is not their tradition, it is a heterosexual tradition.
thetruth6789 1 year ago
She has homosexual friends? I wonder if they are still friends. I would hope so because, I mean, I know that they are from completely different sides. But, really, I feel like people shouldn't have to hate each other because they stand on different sides of the road. One last thing. SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE! SEPARATION OF OPINION AND GOVERNMENT! SERIOUSLY, F*** YOUR OPINIONS! I respect them, but they make no F***ING DIFFERENCE TO THE WORLD!!!! SCREW THE HUMAN RACE! yes i know that means me
callidad 1 year ago
lmao like theres not enough children in orphans. like theres not teen girls getting pregnet and not know what to do with the baby. if you support prop H8 then you support over population.
dwnboy15 1 year ago
WHHOO HOO YES ON 8! =-0
xPikmin2x 1 year ago
HAHHA YOU FUCKING ASSSHOLE IT WAS PASSED YOU FUCKING BITCHES WE WIN! FUCK YOU !
teamogleal 1 year ago
YES ON 8! YES ON 8! YES ON 8! YES ON 8! BOOT OUT THE DEMOCRAPS IN NOVEMBER! FUCK YOU NANCY PELOSI!
carribbeandreams2004 1 year ago
@carribbeandreams2004 agreed no question
TheToontownprincess 1 year ago
@carribbeandreams2004 just more proof of why republicants are evil
idaman12345 1 year ago
@carribbeandreams2004 first its democrats show them the respect they deserve
Second why should we listen to some unamerican like you anyway
Prop h8 is unconstitutional
idaman12345 1 year ago
@idaman12345 Gay marriage is unconstitutional, anti-religion, anti-family and anti-marriage.
thetruth6789 1 year ago
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@thetruth6789 another lie
equal rights is not unconstitutional
gay marriage is not anti family or anti marriage
and religion has nothing to do with marriage
idaman12345 1 year ago
@thetruth6789
Nothing is lost if gay marriage is allowed.
A family unit is 2 parents carings for kids. I know people who were raised by 2 moms/dads, if they weren't then they would be in the system known as Foster Care.
Anti-marriage? My mom and dad's marriage wouldn't be compromised, affected or destroyed if 2 men/women get married.
About the religion part, I don't see why religious beliefs should entirely interfere with what others who don't share the beliefs can do.
kmelfina 1 year ago
@kmelfina "Nothing is lost if gay marriage is allowed"
-The very definition of marriage is lost if gay marriage is allowed.
thetruth6789 1 year ago
@thetruth6789 and give me one reason why it is specific to heterosexual couples that is not rooted in some way to religious allegiance, in stead of protecting a fellow taxpaying american citizen's right to be recognized in the eyes of the law as an equal.
think this through, why does it bother you. there is so much false sensationalism clouding around the yes on 8's grapevine. So much of it is lies and can be plainly exposed as such. why grip at a straw when the truth is accesible? thetruth ha!
malibulanlan 1 year ago
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@malibulanlan "give me one reason why it is specific to heterosexual couples that is not rooted in some way to religious allegiance"
-Does a homosexual have a biological clock, does a homosexual have motherly instincts to take care of their children? NO!!.
thetruth6789 1 year ago
@malibulanlan " in stead of protecting a fellow taxpaying american citizen's right to be recognized in the eyes of the law as an equal"
-Oh, great this terrible argument again. Homosexuals have the same rights and benefits as anyone else, under civil unions, marriage does not grant any rights or benefits, are you retarded? Do you know anything about civil unions and marriage?
thetruth6789 1 year ago
Thetruth6789 contends, "Homosexuals have the same rights and benefits as anyone else, under civil unions, marriage does not grant any rights or benefits,"
Interesting that someone with "truth" in his screen name would post an outright lie, although we could give him the benefit of the doubt and assume his idiotic comments are borne out of...complete, abject retardation. Which seems quite likely, reading his absurd posts.
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
@malibulanlan I hate having to explain this simple fact all the time to ignorant pro-gay marriage idiots like you. The typical pro-gay marriage supporter knows nothing about the cause they are supporting and are swayed by emotion and lies perpetuated by pro-gay marriage commercials.
thetruth6789 1 year ago
Sadly, the anti-gay zealots long ago lost the ability to think for themselves, or even think rationally. They babble incoherently about why minorities should be denied equal rights, based on the arbitrary dictates of their OWN, personally- hosen religious lifestyle. They have no rational basis to fight against equal rights for gays, anymore than they did when they fought against allowing blacks to marry, or against interracial marriage & integrating schools. They are fueled by mindless bigotry.
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
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@malibulanlan "think this through, why does it bother you"
-Are you seriously asking this question?
thetruth6789 1 year ago
@malibulanlan " there is so much false sensationalism clouding around the yes on 8's grapevine. So much of it is lies and can be plainly exposed as such"
-Such as? Please give me examples.
thetruth6789 1 year ago
@kmelfina "A family unit is 2 parents carings for kids"
-A family unit is a heterosexual couple caring for kids.
thetruth6789 1 year ago
@thetruth6789 No it's not, you're logic failed int he courtroom when prop 8 was struck down as unconstitutional. The case you make ultimately fails because it's focused more on religious nonsense that actual substance in argument, so what if four million Californians voted in favor of it? The constitution was made to protect minorities from the crushing will of the majority, and as long as it stands Judeo Christian bullshit will continue to wane in influence.
viletree 1 year ago
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@kmelfina "I know people who were raised by 2 moms/dads, if they weren't then they would be in the system known as Foster Care"
-These kids are better off in foster care than homosexual families, homosexuals do not know how to care for children.
thetruth6789 1 year ago
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@kmelfina "About the religion part, I don't see why religious beliefs should entirely interfere with what others who don't share the beliefs can do"
-To get married you must adhere to Christianity, that is why you must be baptized before you get married. Religious beliefs are the basis for marriage, religion itself is the governing force in marriage.
thetruth6789 1 year ago 2
Thetruth6789 babbles, "To get married you must adhere to Christianity"
The Jews, Muslims, and atheists who have been joined in matrimony might disagree with you, but hey! Don't let reality and facts deter your delusional rants. They are actually quite amusing.
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
@GodCreatesGays2 To enter kiddushin(Jewish matrimony) you must adhere to Judaism. To enter zawaj you must adhere to Islam. I wouldn't expect you to know about other religions, since you're an ignorant homosexual pro-gay marriage baffoon. Since the only religion you homosexuals attack and the only thing you talk about is Christianity, then we talk about marriage, not kiddushin or zawaj. You homosexuals know that Christians are accepting and good/nice people, so they are easy targets for you.
thetruth6789 1 year ago
6789, I must also point out another area in which your bigotry and mindlessness are on display. You assume that I must be gay, simply because, crippled by your own limited intellectual resources, you cannot comprehend or cope with people who are NOT bigoted, and who do NOT choose to remain uneducated (and let me make it clear: your studied ignorance is indeed a lifestyle choice). I can easily school you on the internet, but may I suggest you try getting an education in the real world?
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
@GodCreatesGays2 You wouldn't try to attack Jews or change the institutions of kiddushin or zawaj, because the Jews and Muslims would cut you homos down so quick. But it's A-ok for you to attack Christians, because they are accepting and very nice people, regardless of the false things you say about them.
thetruth6789 1 year ago
6789, if you could try to be rational and work within the realm of reality, for just a moment, you may actually learn something. I never said anything negative against "Christians", that's a paranoid delusion fueled by your overheated imagination. Nor did I ever say I wanted to "change" the institution of Christianity, even though some of you who claim to adhere to the religion DO need to be in an institution. Perhaps the crux of your problem is that you cannot decipher what you read & hear.
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
@GodCreatesGays2 Yeah sure keep telling people you're not gay, you wouldn't create an account and spend hours upon hours arguing about this subject if it wasn't for your benefit or didn't include you.
thetruth6789 1 year ago
Thetruth6789, as your fragile...mind teeters precariously on the brink of oblivion, all I can do is point out the reality to you. Whether or not you can cope with the truth is another matter. I can lead a horse to water, but I cannot make him drink, just as I can lead you to reality but cannot make you think. You don't "have to" agree with God and me on the gay issue. He can deny the Lord's wisdom all you want. Having free will, it is your own choice to damn yourself to hell.
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
@GodCreatesGays2
well?: 1)Where did you get info on God,heaven and hell?
2)What is your gods name?
3)Explain salvation & where you learned of it.
4)How do you know of any of the teachings of Jesus?
5)From where do you derive your moral code? ANSWER or ADMIT YOU ARE
TOO AFRAID TO ANSWER
TOO WEAK TO BE HONEST
TOO STUPID TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.
You like demeaning people yet are unable or too weak to answer basic questions.Thus,you are also exposed as a hypocrite
kwil46 1 year ago
Kelly, are you STILL on crack? Wasn't the point of being institutionalized to get you clean and sober, so you could think straight and stop such deviant, anti-social behavior?
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
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kwil46 1 year ago
@GodCreatesGays2
Its reassuring to know you are still too weak to answer my basic questions and that you epitomize the ignorance and hatred of those like you. Thanks again for the admission that you are content to be bested by me and will never answer my questions. Hypocrisy = YOU = Hypocrisy
kwil46 1 year ago
Kelly, those hallucinations alone should compel you to get extensive, immediate psychological care. Is THIS the way you want to be...forever? No wonder you can't get an adult woman to tolerate you. For your own sake, reach out for help.
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
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@GodCreatesGays2
More inane nonsense from the weak . And yet you are still afraid to answer my questions.Your hatred calls for you to disparage and lie while your weakness prevents you from just answering.
well?: 1)Where did you get info on God,heaven and hell?
2)What is your gods name?
3)Explain salvation & where you learned of it.
4)How do you know of any of the teachings of Jesus?
5)From where do you derive your moral code? ANSWER or ADMIT YOU ARE
TOO AFRAID TO ANSWER
kwil46 1 year ago
Kelly, if you ADMIT that you keep posting "more inane nonsense", then why do you do it? have you been examined for OCD? I have been very patient with you, and the altruist in my DOES want you to get well, but if you never even try to help yourself, I'm afraid your deviant behavior and anti-social hysteria will destroy the rest of your life. Just some food for thought, since you are obviously starving.
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
@GodCreatesGays2
You equate my seeking an answer from you with "....deviant behavior and anti-social hysteria..". I guess thats par for a person of your weak demeanor and hypocritical nature.
well?:
1)Where did you get info on God,heaven and hell?
2)What is your gods name?
3)Explain salvation & where you learned of it.
4)How do you know of any of the teachings of Jesus?
5)From where do you derive your moral code?
kwil46 1 year ago
No, Kelly. I equate your deviant behavior and continued hysterical, anti-social behavior with...well, with your insanity. You've already received answers to your questions. Your being unable to cope with the reality explained to you is just another symptom of your mental problems. I offer this gentle-but-accurate rebuke out of Christian compassion. Get help quick. Your "mind" is deteriorating at an alarming rate.
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
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@GodCreatesGays2
Again with the lies: "You've already received answers to your questions"
IF you are SO superior as you claim,then answer or admit your weakness.
well?:
1)Where did you get info on God,heaven and hell?
2)What is your gods name?
3)Explain salvation & where you learned of it.
4)How do you know of any of the teachings of Jesus?
5)From where do you derive your moral code?
kwil46 1 year ago
kwil46 1 year ago
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Kelly bleats and brays, "Then why is it that YOU are the one unable to answer my basic questions (in a way that I want to hear and can cope with)?"
Because the truth does not change, regardless of your foot-stomping and refusal to accept it. How many times do you need this lesson repeated?
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
@GodCreatesGays2
I know how you hate honesty(most hypocrites do),but all I am asking is for you to answer my questions. You beat your chest and pompously moan,but you have yet to answer a single question of mine. All this could be settled if you would just answer.I dont have to like your answers, but that is a moot point.YOU are too weak and afraid to answer me for,in so doing,you will expose yourself as a liar.
Thank you and we still await the day you learn to honestly answer.
kwil46 1 year ago
Kelly, how is "creatively reinterpreting reality" going to help salvage your case, your credibility, or your ego?
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
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@GodCreatesGays2
My case? Another win.I have continually bested you
My credibility? Intact, since I answered ALL your questions
My ego? FIne,although besting you is so easy there isnt much ego boost.
1)Where did you get info on God,heaven and hell?
2)What is your gods name?
3)Explain salvation & where you learned of it.
4)How do you know of any of the teachings of Jesus?
5)From where do you derive your moral code?
kwil46 1 year ago
Sadly, Kwil46, your...mind (such as it is) has left the building.
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
@GodCreatesGays2
Still too much of a mind for you to contend with,else you could answer these questions.
1)Where did you get info on God,heaven and hell?
2)What is your gods name?
3)Explain salvation & where you learned of it.
4)How do you know of any of the teachings of Jesus?
5)From where do you derive your moral code?
kwil46 1 year ago
kwil46...it's left the building and rolled down the hill, LOL!
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
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@GodCreatesGays2
Once a hypocrite, always a hypocrite.
Once a weak & fearful person, always a weak & fearful person.
NO?? THEN ANSWER:
1)Where did you get info on God,heaven and hell?
2)What is your gods name?
3)Explain salvation & where you learned of it.
4)How do you know of any of the teachings of Jesus?
5)From where do you derive your moral code?
kwil46 1 year ago
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kwil46 1 year ago
@GodCreatesGays2 You think anyone who is upholding their thousand year old traditions bigoted from attackers such as you, in reality you are the bigot here.
thetruth6789 1 year ago
leave marriages to the church like it was historically, as soon as the state got involve marriage went down the drain, even Ron Paul said that
jm3083 1 year ago
Yes on afterschool funding!
IndependentVoter612 1 year ago
2:16 It's going to be hard for him to come out
coolguy852 1 year ago
ha ha, it passed!!! butt fuckers
thomasadamnelson 1 year ago
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Trevrz1 1 year ago
@thomasadamnelson good- now you can go back to protesting carbs and trans fat you fucktwit
Trevrz1 1 year ago
@Trevrz1 im 6'2 149 pounds you idiot.
thomasadamnelson 1 year ago
@thomasadamnelson I apologize
Trevrz1 1 year ago
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@Trevrz1 I AGREE GOD HATES FAGGOTS!
carribbeandreams2004 1 year ago
@carribbeandreams2004 god isnt real dumbass
idaman12345 1 year ago
@Trevrz1 im assuming you like ridiculing others for being fat because you're over weight and you dont want to look too down on yourself so you decide to criticize others? well listen, in the time it takes you to do that, you could be losing some extra baggage. think about it
thomasadamnelson 1 year ago
@thomasadamnelson I'm not fat. I just notice that alot of homophobes have weight issues. It was meant as a joke- however distasteful.
Trevrz1 1 year ago
i love how all these damn fn mexicans are all for yes on 8,but right when a law about illegals comes about,all hell brakes loose for them.fu mexicans in this video..GOD will get u on his time.and to the fat lady sittin throughout the video,plz stay home...ur hella ugly...im serious!
musik287 1 year ago
@musik287 "i love how all these damn fn mexicans are all for yes on 8"
-How do you know they're Mexican illegals?. You're a fucking idiot. Not surprised to see a homosexual pro-gay no on prop 8 supporter to be ethnophobic.
thetruth6789 1 year ago
@thetruth6789 look at u,u a big girl now,all the big words that ur writing down..what was that? Arizona jus called n they need to verify that ur a legal.fuck u mexicans.i love Arizona...laws that is.again,i repeat..fuck you mexicans.all u do in my state is lay on ur back n pop out kids n my fuckin tax payer money is wasted.dont get me started on mex. men..talk about fuckin useless
musik287 1 year ago
@musik287 Oh look a Central American shit stain typing incoherent sentences, that make absolutely no sense, tell your disgusting people to stop hopping trains and stop spreading tuberculosis.
thetruth6789 1 year ago
@thetruth6789 im so sorry that u have no life.and ur way off base in what nationality i am...way fuckin off.get a dick n suck on it
musik287 1 year ago
@musik287 I'm very positive you're not a U.S. citizen, just by the way you type. You are very uenducated, ignorant and you can not argue without insulting like a child.
thetruth6789 1 year ago
@musik287 talk about blacks hahahaha and im white XD hahahah stupid blacks
ineedmoney231 1 year ago
@musik287 Like I said a million times, not all illegal immigrants are Mexican, why can't your nigger ass comprehend this simple fact?. The majority of illegal immigrants are from Central America, you have something against Mexican-Americans for some reason. I think one raped you or kicked your ass and now you hate them all. Also it's pretty evident that you're uneducated and illiterate if the words I used in my previous comment seem "big" to you, get educated negroid.
thetruth6789 1 year ago
@thetruth6789 LOL.. u think im black? way off..try again.and really dude,this is fuckin youtube and i have every right to write down what i would like to say..with that in mind,get a life!!! yall jus be wastin air.and some of us have to work in order for the whore ass mexicans that jus lay on their backs n pop babies out to get my mother fuckin tax payer money...ha ha ha for all you yes on 8 little bitches,it was overturned.fu cath-o-lics..and ofcourse u piss ass mormons.lol,u think im black.lol
musik287 1 year ago
@musik287 Hahaha keep denying you're Black, it is so apparent from your ebonics and illiteracy.
thetruth6789 1 year ago
@musik287 ' yall jus be wastin air.and some of us have to work in order for the whore ass mexicans that jus lay on their backs n pop babies out to get my mother fuckin tax payer money"
-Blacks don't work or pay taxes, and you seem to think all Hispanics are Mexican, what do you have against Mexicans?. You should be against Salvadorans and all Central Americans they are the ones who bring violence and crime to the U.S. with their MS13 gang.
thetruth6789 1 year ago
Also, notice the fat woman accuses the pro-prop 8 demonstrators of hate speech and the anti-prop 8 guy comes over the the pro-prop 8 demonstrators and starts an argument. Seems like the anti-prop 8 demonstrators are the intolerant liars.
conboy11 1 year ago
@conboy11 so because someone wants to argue with another person it makes them an intolerant liar?
idaman12345 1 year ago
@idaman12345
nope but if someone denies another person their rights with stupid lies it does.
kusoatfall 1 year ago
@kusoatfall well thats what the supporters of prop h8 do
idaman12345 1 year ago
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thetruth6789 1 year ago
Its all the Older People because guess what? They are wiser than younger people. Most Democrats are young people.
jefe241 1 year ago
@jefe241 your comment doesnt really make sense, you're right it's the younger people who are mostly democrats, but the democrats are the ones who support gay marriage, while republicans are against it. religions are usually conservatives. you're totally mixing up your staightment
copmGdawg 1 year ago
@jefe241 Your comment didn't make sense. The younger people were pro-prop 8 in this video (making them more conservative on the issue) than the older demonstrators who were against prop 8. In this instance, it appears the liberals are older white women and gay men who are probably gentrifying the younger hispanic catholics' Oakland neighborhood. The hispanics are pro-prop 8 because I'd imagine they are catholic.
conboy11 1 year ago