Yes, Kissaki Kai does a great job, and in a very creative way....much more practical than JKA teaches. These competition people are great but they are training to look good and amaze those watching them....and they really do look great. I vote for Kissaki Kai.
Very athletic and very good for competition. Also, very Hollywood, sadly.
As this was so successful, it's a shame, as others will emulate and we'll get further and further and further away from the true applications of these beautiful and brutally simple katas.
@bertthepickle You are absolutely right! They are great athletes...amazing skills!
Their applications are just not realistic at all though. Part of this is because they do not know the practical aspect, and partly because the kata itself is not like the older version ( Aragaki Unsu and others ), and therefore has no real bunkai. Shotokan katas are just too watered down to have realistic bunkai. On the other hand though, they are great at technique and skill development.
@Ronin6575 Well, I wouldn't go so far to say that shoto katas don't have realistic bunkai. The Kissaki Kai group have plenty of very practical, realistic and painful bunkai for most shoto katas. There are probably other groups out there with similarly practical bunkai. You just need to look beyond this poor competition stuff.
@ShotokanBleach It would be useful for you to study the difference between realistic applications and competition-oriented ones. There are massive differences in timing, range, multiple flurries and really very good reasons not to throw yourself onto the floor whilst executing a jumping roundhouse to the head (not that you'd do that anyway). Check out videos by Geoff Thompson, Iain Abernethy and Vince Morris for more realistic applications. Do you expect to be attacked by an oi-tsuki? Really?
i agree with you.i've been practising Karate (traditionnal part), the real budo like Taiji Kase or some others used to, and that's so different from what they show on this video.
None of the bunkai they performed was of any move they performed in the kata. So rediculas. What is the point of showing the bunkai if it doesn't match the kata. Good technique, but very poor application.
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Who on earth will attack you with oi-tsuki in a real fight?Nobody.All the Kata were designed for real self defence not for Karate vs Karate moves!Man sport karate sucks big time!!!
Depends on how seriously you take whatever you're training in. I've never seen any style of Karate as a "sport", & I've had to use some of those moves in real encounters before. Of course you wouldn't use the dojo environment as an example for "real" self- defence.
are you sure they are juniors?in 2007. I was there with cadet team and I don't remember them as juniors, I always tought as seniors , they looked older than todays juniors look :D
I've been practising bunkai formany years and I was wondering if you think that bunkai prepare to kumite?and also, do you think bunkai could be efficent on a street fight?
no i do not think it would be efficent in either kumite or a streetfight. the reason is that is exactly planned before, which makes it way different from kumite. the second reason is the fact that there are impossible moves in bunkai, that look good but cant be performed in a fight ( e.g. grabbing ones arm lifting him up, turning him twice while holding him in the air and then throwing him on the ground) thats just impossible without the help of the other person ..
If you are talking about this choreographed nonsense that they do as Bunkai in this video, then of course none of this can function in a street fight. However, proper bunkai does function for street fights, and many MMA fighters study bunkai that have derived from Shotokan Katas. Sport Karate is not meant to be used for fighting.
Very athletic, very posey but nothing that shows the true attitude and spirit of the application as it should be done.
croftshot 1 month ago
Great jop guys unbelievable team <)
jameelo123 4 months ago
2:11 the best part !!!
Elecstro 5 months ago
Làm sao để ghi lại được phần Bunkai đây, máy nghe nhạc mà k hỏng thì có cái để mà tập roài
Takarin8 5 months ago
Very good!!!
owka1996 9 months ago
never seen mor acrobatic bunkai than this !
SignorFOX 11 months ago
fake and gay
Medallion702 1 year ago
@Medallion702 the bunkai is always fake because they aren't silly enough to hurt their own friends but you must put the word "gay" for your ass
MrKarate007 1 year ago
@Medallion702 wow but i bet either one of them could kill you
ShotokanBleach 9 months ago
Yes, Kissaki Kai does a great job, and in a very creative way....much more practical than JKA teaches. These competition people are great but they are training to look good and amaze those watching them....and they really do look great. I vote for Kissaki Kai.
Ronin6575 1 year ago
AWESOME MAN !
kashen1 1 year ago
... WKF world champs in 2007 ? ...
shingitai333 1 year ago
that was just str8t bad ass
shinigami285 1 year ago
amazing
ulfamos 1 year ago
best unsu bunkai what i saw in my life
bornintosuffering 1 year ago
@bornintosuffering How Sad!!
croftshot 1 month ago
Very athletic and very good for competition. Also, very Hollywood, sadly.
As this was so successful, it's a shame, as others will emulate and we'll get further and further and further away from the true applications of these beautiful and brutally simple katas.
bertthepickle 1 year ago 9
@bertthepickle You are absolutely right! They are great athletes...amazing skills!
Their applications are just not realistic at all though. Part of this is because they do not know the practical aspect, and partly because the kata itself is not like the older version ( Aragaki Unsu and others ), and therefore has no real bunkai. Shotokan katas are just too watered down to have realistic bunkai. On the other hand though, they are great at technique and skill development.
Ronin6575 1 year ago
@Ronin6575 Well, I wouldn't go so far to say that shoto katas don't have realistic bunkai. The Kissaki Kai group have plenty of very practical, realistic and painful bunkai for most shoto katas. There are probably other groups out there with similarly practical bunkai. You just need to look beyond this poor competition stuff.
bertthepickle 1 year ago
@bertthepickle then obviously you are to narrow minded to see the application of shotokan kata
ShotokanBleach 9 months ago
@ShotokanBleach It would be useful for you to study the difference between realistic applications and competition-oriented ones. There are massive differences in timing, range, multiple flurries and really very good reasons not to throw yourself onto the floor whilst executing a jumping roundhouse to the head (not that you'd do that anyway). Check out videos by Geoff Thompson, Iain Abernethy and Vince Morris for more realistic applications. Do you expect to be attacked by an oi-tsuki? Really?
bertthepickle 9 months ago
@bertthepickle I agree some of these kata are very beautiful but competitions have turned them into shows rather than a way of homing your skills
They should do more internal kata instead of showing off
jamsbruno1 1 year ago
I've never seen Unsu done this hard...wow ^_^
pg86 1 year ago
Wooow. You people make me proud to be a karate practicioner. This here is really excellent and and worth every second of my time.
My deep respest.
RokS1983 2 years ago 2
That's very interesting, I make Ju Jutsu an Kickboxen. Maybe I begin with Karate must see...
(Sry my english isn't very well, but I try that you can understand^^)
aaaaasssssiiiii 2 years ago
Wao... esta brillante... Pero que tal demostracion.. Apuesto que ganaron ;)
leolord1992 2 years ago
They won the WKF world championships .. and you say that it's nonsense and ridiculous ????
please, don't underestimate people !
AmrFekry 2 years ago
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This good for people who don't understand karate. This is only sport...no budo. Timing is wrong etc...Only show for people. Hollywood karate!! Sorry!
ToraoDojo 2 years ago
Lol, there just always has to be douche bags on youtube who think they know everything...
Goldenwrath 2 years ago
i agree with you.i've been practising Karate (traditionnal part), the real budo like Taiji Kase or some others used to, and that's so different from what they show on this video.
bunkai23 1 year ago
INCREDIBLE! Bravo guys!!
Y2H 2 years ago 5
Brilliant i am 15 and a brown striped and i have jst started to learn it it isn't easy i mean the jump i can do ok but need's more work
xxfalcon14xx 2 years ago
None of the bunkai they performed was of any move they performed in the kata. So rediculas. What is the point of showing the bunkai if it doesn't match the kata. Good technique, but very poor application.
TheKickinj 2 years ago
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SebastianAlegre95 2 years ago
Completely nonsense bunkai ...
FiasaPower 2 years ago
the kata is nice, but the bunkai is ok
Franicvos 2 years ago
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Who on earth will attack you with oi-tsuki in a real fight?Nobody.All the Kata were designed for real self defence not for Karate vs Karate moves!Man sport karate sucks big time!!!
acerwk 2 years ago
Depends on how seriously you take whatever you're training in. I've never seen any style of Karate as a "sport", & I've had to use some of those moves in real encounters before. Of course you wouldn't use the dojo environment as an example for "real" self- defence.
bluecollarcanuck 2 years ago
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Youre a fucking idiot moron!
Y2H 2 years ago
geto lost faggot
acerwk 2 years ago
WoW
jAcK254 2 years ago 2
oh my god...
mikey2357 2 years ago 2
esta en camara lenta o solo yo la veo asi?
mikegdlvideos 3 years ago
มุมกล้องสุดยอดเลย
thaikarate 3 years ago
are you sure they are juniors?in 2007. I was there with cadet team and I don't remember them as juniors, I always tought as seniors , they looked older than todays juniors look :D
AlphMarco 3 years ago
ibrahim very stronger... the best - 21 anos of world....
3 place in mundial 2008 japan....
kinhojack 3 years ago
desde mi humilde opinion....
ESPECTAKULAR!!!!los pelos de gallina se me han puesto.....
la perfeccion al limite....un 9,90
ooss!!
alboroto26 3 years ago
I'm really sure the bunkai probably could apply on a street fight if you practice on it precisely.
cassavaeater 3 years ago
I've been practising bunkai formany years and I was wondering if you think that bunkai prepare to kumite?and also, do you think bunkai could be efficent on a street fight?
bunkai23 3 years ago
no i do not think it would be efficent in either kumite or a streetfight. the reason is that is exactly planned before, which makes it way different from kumite. the second reason is the fact that there are impossible moves in bunkai, that look good but cant be performed in a fight ( e.g. grabbing ones arm lifting him up, turning him twice while holding him in the air and then throwing him on the ground) thats just impossible without the help of the other person ..
Holter3000 3 years ago
well ... it might be possible if the your enemy is a child ^^
Holter3000 3 years ago
If you are talking about this choreographed nonsense that they do as Bunkai in this video, then of course none of this can function in a street fight. However, proper bunkai does function for street fights, and many MMA fighters study bunkai that have derived from Shotokan Katas. Sport Karate is not meant to be used for fighting.
Gwisss 3 years ago
That was astonishing.
JH335163 3 years ago
I didnt recognise Mostafa without the beard!
Great performance worthy of the Gold.
Go egypt :)
wiiwillywinker 3 years ago
can u get the video of individual kata where egypt faces turkey the guy in the middle in this video is in the final please upload if u can
samj633 3 years ago
brilliant just brilliant!!!!!!!
samj633 3 years ago 2
5:02 - 5:08 was the best part for me...
bunkai nicely done..
mogulkahn08 3 years ago
good job egyptian men ?
i love you very muchhhhhh ???
ammma1991 4 years ago
But, the video of Italy??
lucainternational 4 years ago
a7san 3ash ya gd3an i am really proud of u sha raftouna
islamheliopolis 4 years ago
Very nice job.
Axelton 4 years ago
OK thank you soo much!!!
lucainternational 4 years ago
Do you have the video of italy??
lucainternational 4 years ago
yes nd i'll upload it tonight
Karadota 4 years ago