RC Red Arrow Jet crash Woodsprings 2009

[macman831]

I was just going to look up crashes of thes jets don't have to now but it Evan upset me seeing that happen the objects of beauti so sad to see it go sown like that

[edj66]

Does anyone know what the cause was? Poor boy - it looked like the son's plane that went down.

[CountryPursuitsTV]

You can hear the wife screaming! Noooooooo my holiday!!!!!!!!

[OrganicOyster]

Is it a cow or a wolf at 2:49 ?

[phil123711]

It could have gone into the crowd.

[luciebasset]

FANTASTIC,display but what shame about the crash! How sad that it happened in 'real life' a couple of months ago! RIP Fl Lt Jon Egging

[Mark1Spitfire]

@luciebasset Yep RIP Jon Egging. Tragic loss

[XtremeRCTV]

@kingpav I sent you a PM :) Can we forget about it now please, no hard feelings, just a bit of RC banter, right?? sorry

[XtremeRCTV]

@kingpav Excuse me? How rude.... clearly not a modeler because a true modeler wouldn't have such an attitude. Are you American?

[kingpav]

@kingpav and the figure of £200,000 is probably way off... try somewhere between £1 and several million, double it if BAE systems are involved.

[matthewisstrange]

why was there the sound of cows at the very end of the vid? most odd!!

[typhoon5445]

yip these just cant be that easy to fly a lot of skill there ..shame

[Maguirerichardson]

Excellent video - excellent flying - bad luck! I had no idea that such models existed!!

[AltLexington]

That was Tragic, up until the end it was a really good show.

[davemirra145]

such a shame, that was a nice flight until he crashed. when rc jets crashed, they just get destroyed into a pile a dust

[Doo0ne]

Wow, RC Red Arrows! Awesome!

[IvySummers1]

How heart breaking too see this happen. a lot of work and money up in smoke, I feel bad for the guy. right up until the crash it was awesome. show a lot of skill flyinf RC. .

[Sirfoxinabox]

love these guys. they did a show down in redruth,cornwall great display. Guess he got a new plane then.

[soapychowder]

gr8 vid luv it, pity about da crash, but no offence it wud be pretty class if the 2 planes collided 4 two reasons, 1 u wud c it better, and 2, it wud be an unreal explosion which wud make ppl go :) and wow :0 and gasp

[MAMMHON]

In crashes videos there is always a woman that screams.

[DotCmaker01]

@Mark1Spitfire ok, thanks, I would love to see such an airshow in real life, only thing, I live in Holland xD

[pacovl46]

yeah, top gun soundtrack!!!!! highway to the danger zone!!!

[HandMekeysYouFuCoSkr]

Pretty good flying for an RC thing. 8K out of pocket. Must of hurt.

[FlamableCookie]

when the first song ame on i was like, ''this song really, what about danger zone'', when that song came on...... it was like...... victory

[InGoodNick1973]

THAT GUY HAS JUST CRASHED $13 GRAND!- HE'S RICH.

[toddsher2112]

Oh man, I love formation flying in RC. It's rare to see guys with $10k jets doing it, so this video is a real treat. It's extremely challenging to do, and the faster the plane the more difficult it is. These guys were doing a fairly good job of it, but I thought it was going to be a mid-air collision. They had several near-death moments in the air where I thought for sure they were gonna hit each other. It's too bad the camera man wasn't close to the pilots to catch their audible calls.

[lodgers1977]

unlucky brv good display

[SuzLa1]

Model airplanes cost 8K?

[Mark1Spitfire]

@SuzLa1 Yes and some cost more.

[SuzLa1]

@Mark1Spitfire That's crazy.

[TheParkzyy]

@Mark1Spitfire That is nice i can see wht they cost about 8k when theyre in the air they look the same asa real red arrow ;)

[SlamDuncDrummer]

It really was a very beautiful plane. Did you ever determine the cause or was there just nothing left to look at?

I crashed so many when I first started that I took up actual flying and got my private pilots license. It was cheaper for me :-)

[Mark1Spitfire]

@SlamDuncDrummer Most of it atomised .I'm told an elevator servo issue

[SlamDuncDrummer]

@Mark1Spitfire

The say if you go out, go out in style and I would give you a 10/10 for style points on that one. Sorry again, hope you have another one in the air.

[geohat185]

@SlamDuncDrummer you can see it smash into the yellow marker? it's an error of misjudgement?

[SlamDuncDrummer]

@geohat185

Well it is obvious that it hit something. We call that "Master of the Obvious", however the pilot is extremely good (not in-fallible), but I am sure would not fly in to something without something being wrong. Bad servo, distracted, something.

Just wanted to know if a post mortem was done and wanted to express my condolences as the amount of work that goes in to these is substantial.

Duncan

[Mark1Spitfire]

@SlamDuncDrummer I think it was to pulverised but rumour is elevator servo was not behaving

[geohat185]

@SlamDuncDrummer yeah, i said there was an error of misjudgement, read the reply before you go off on one.

[SlamDuncDrummer]

@geohat185

Read my post. I asked if there was a post mortem to determine if something failed, causing it to hit the "Yellow Marker". I don't know, something like flutter, servo, crossed transmitters etc.

[geohat185]

@SlamDuncDrummer yeah yeah alright, i mis read your post.. sorry :L xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx­xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx­xxx xoxoxoxoxox <----- love

[SlamDuncDrummer]

@geohat185

Back at you XO :-)

[SlamDuncDrummer]

Very sorry for the loss of your plane. Great flying up till that point. I also hope the little guy ejected in time.

[wyb80]

Such a shame to loose a beautiful Model like that, they look so good though! very realistic.....sadly even the crash is very authentic :(

[bloggs692413]

what a shame sorry to see that crash,, nice model gone!! good display upto tha point

[Spitfire44679]

Such a shame about that - the display was brilliant before it though :)

[THEDUBABY360]

1:36 There Goes Goose

[DMCcornish]

i watched 1:30 to just see the puff of fire -.-

[Mark1Spitfire]

@DMCcornish You mean puff of smoke after fireball. Hope you enjoyed the rest of the flight

[asashki]

style red arrows, is very similar ;)

[rodderthon]

Hope the little man ejected in time.

[Mark1Spitfire]

@rodderthon  lol

[erikpoephoofd]

@rodderthon

you know rc means radio controlled right?

or was that a sarcastic comment :p

[Extreme1567]

Shit, that was a hella of a display with RC Jets man, WOW

[kingpav]

If you must play cheesy top gun music you deserve to crash and burn!

BAN ALL TOP GUN MUSIC FROM THESE VIDEOS YOU GIVE THE HOBBY A BAD NAME AND MAKE US ALL LOOK LIKE LOSERS.

[Mark1Spitfire]

@kingpav Thats a nasty comment saying people deserve to crash based on music.

Here are the facts. The music you hear is actually being played over a PA system at the flying display. It has not been added after by me.

To be honest, I agree with you the music is cheesy and sucks however it does represent fast jets and is synonymous

[kingpav]

@Mark1Spitfire Don't worry I don't mean it. I am aware that it was playing on the PA system and that it was the choice of the pilots hence the deserve to crash comment. I know you're not to blame.

As for the choice of music I'm ashamed to tell people about my hobbies as every loser seems to use that music on their vids. It's not synonymous with rc jets, no full scale jets, just rc jet videos on Youtube.

It's embarrassing to show my friends these videos as they'll think I like the music.

[836adam]

@Mark1Spitfire I thought it was quite funny it has to be said model aircraft flying is sad. The only unfortunate thing about that was he losy 8k

[Mark1Spitfire]

@836adam A few might label RC Sad but many would agree its fun and requires great skill and dedication.

Yep 8k hurt the owner, I'm sure.

RC is a pleasure pain hobby and sad when you loose one to gravity.

[836adam]

@Mark1Spitfire yeah true it does take great skill i couldnt do it that was just my opinion

[thexonexkid]

@kingpav if you ever wish a crash of a any plane essp one that is several thousand dollars then you deserve to not fly

[thexonexkid]

@kingpav if you ever wish a crash of any plane essp one that is several thousand dollars then you deserve to not fly

[kingpav]

@thexonexkid I've been flying for the past 18 years have learned and for various reasons they crash... one thing every experienced model flyer knows is that things go wrong no matter how good you are at flying and building. I've flown cheap and expensive models and flown at various clubs in the UK. One thing I've come to understand is that in this game you don't get too attached to your model, at the end of the day it's a toy no matter how expensive it is or how much time you've invested in it.

[merrylittlechristmas]

@Mark1Spitfire lol Ok mate ;)

[kingpav]

@merrylittlechristmas

pi·lot (plt)

n.

1. One who operates or is licensed to operate an aircraft in flight.

A person in control of any aircraft or spacecraft is known as a pilot irrespective of how it is controlled. RC piloting is obviously very different from sitting in a cockpit however it is still formally known as piloting as is the case with military unmanned aircraft used in the battle field and in search and rescue. NASA famously used a remote pilot for crash tests in the 80's.

[merrylittlechristmas]

@kingpav Im not trying to say that they arent "classed" as some form of pilot. But as i'm sure you are well aware...and as youve said...sitting in a cockpit and flying an aircraft worth millions of pounds, full of people, is a little different both in qualifications, education and training/experience....to standing on the ground with a remote control. 2nd of all...I dont think the military employ RC aircraft controllers who do it as a hobby...they are of course massivley experienced.

[kingpav]

@merrylittlechristmas yeah the two things are clearly different, everybody knows that. As for the controllers of the RPVs (Remotely Piloted Vehicle) they don't need much training and experience is not essential, I don't know how long they get but they don't need more than a days if that. When looking at RC as a hobby people laugh at calling them pilots but when it's used for aerial photography, aerial footage, land surveillance, crowd control, search and rescue then it doesn't sound so daft.

[kingpav]

@merrylittlechristmas

The comparisons made below are silly comparisons, flying real jets is hard and so is flying model ones but they should not be compared with each other.

It's like comparing an ice skater to an ice sculptor.

An RC pilot can't just take the controls of a full scale plane in much the same way a full scale pilot can't just take the controls of an RC jet, in both situations they would both crash pretty soon after doing so.

A real full scale jet pilot would agree.

[Mark1Spitfire]

@merrylittlechristmas Hi, Don't forget it was the previous captain that had issues with RC operators calling themselves pilot. The arrogance of the man felt that he was the only one entitled to label himself as a pilot. Obviously he was a real pilot allthough that was not proved as he could have claimed to be one when he might have been a microsoft flight simulator pilot. The benefit of the doubt could be applied.

Someone who steers a vessel or aircraft by is a pilot otherwise its autonomous.

[Mark1Spitfire]

@merrylittlechristmas Also costateguise is now aware that CAA cap658 referes to rc operators as "pilots". I think that's dented his ego slightly hence the bragging of wages after.

Nice chap, however,lets see him fly a 350mph rc jet and attempt to convert his commercial pilots skills into rc control.

Should make an interesting great youtube video on his first flight.

[merrylittlechristmas]

@Mark1Spitfire lol dude your deluded

[Mark1Spitfire]

@merrylittlechristmas ahahah sniffing to much jetA1 fuel.

Infact I'm so deluded that I'm half expecting the captain to prove me wrong and successfully pilot an rc jet!!!

[costateguise]

@Mark1Spitfire I will email you my thoughts on that now, because they won't fit in one of these small comment boxes.

[BMWM3GTRLOVER]

1:37: you can see it zoom through the space at the guard guys left

[kirza94]

lol 1:37 the woman screams likes it a real crash xD

[escueladeleyi]

LOL!

Pwned!!

[clintonearlwalker]

"...right up until that is was absolute phenomenal"  lol

[TheNitronaught]

I was there that day. The morning display was superb. This was the afternoon display. Before where he crashed there is a small creek, as it was warm that day, the heat over the creek caused turbulance and draged him down before he could react as he flew lower to thge ground the second display.

[Mark1Spitfire]

@TheNitronaught I've not heard of that crash diagnosis report before. Turbulance?

[TheNitronaught]

@Mark1Spitfire Turbulance might be the wrong word. =S As it flew over the creek the the air diference draged the plane down and his reaction was to slow.

[121168]

hi, the reason it crashed was one of the two elavators failed and he could not pull up,

[djhoodski]

great flight at 1st, really inspiring. such a shame for crach at the end. hope they fly again togther soon, would like to see more of these guys flying abilities. awesome, truley awesome

[jetpilot786]

I bet Ali was laughing his tits off really!!!!!

[Mark1Spitfire]

@jetpilot786 He didn't look like it. He showed great support to the Pilot mat bishop

[corbystarlet]

the fly like the real thing... they crash like the real thing. good formation though

[BANGERS68]

what a shame,,that was some real good pioloting

[stueyrandall]

why was the lady screaming no one was hurt and at the end of the day if he has got enough money to buy and fly something that could cost up to 8 grand he has proabibly got the money to crash it and get another one if not then he should end ba flying something so exspencive

waits for mass hate replys (bring it on)

[Mark1Spitfire]

@stueyrandall The screaming was, because girls scream.! There was a loud bang on impact, which was not picked up by the video. This is what spooked her.

Doesn't make sense when you say he has the money to crash it. Why would you take pleasure in someone elses misfortune? Anyway, he did get another jet after.!!!

A touch of spite and envy perhaps?

[stueyrandall]

@Mark1Spitfire what i ment was that if he had the money to have the plane and to beable to fly it he knows there is allways the risk that he could crash it and destroy it he must have the money to replace it there for is clearly minted and shouldent look so disapointed

[stueyrandall]

@stueyrandall ps i do not take pleasure in people misfortune im sure the bloke was gutted and proabibly ruined his day

i also am not envous i have tbh not got any intrest(any more) in model aircraft

[sted123456789]

@stueyrandall I realise this is over a month old but your comments are just plain stupid. So no one should buy anything unless they can afford a replacement as well?? lol. Also, if you have no interest in model aircraft why are you even watching the video?

I realise some people just go on YT to write stupid comments and slate everyone else's abilities etc etc, I guess you're one of those people, might be better if you just refrain from posting if you've nothing remotely intelligent to say.

[stueyrandall]

@sted123456789 please excuse my french but you can suck my fat sweaty balls

[Guiltygard]

@stueyrandall 0/10.

[shaunm109]

how much do they cost

[Mark1Spitfire]

@shaunm109 About 8 Thousand pounds sterling

[shaunm109]

were can i get one of thoes

[Mark1Spitfire]

@shaunm109 Als hobbies could direct you

[glockeva]

nice plane however it was flown a little sloppy. and the crash at the end proved this :-)

[PussInBoots2009]

id laught if it was migits flying :L

[xoio]

How to turn £2-3 Grand into a lawn dart...

Oh well

[hkamikase]

hé oui! ce n'est pas par ce que ces BAe HAWK T.Mk1 ressemblent à ceux des RED ARROWS qu'ils ne peuvent pas se crasher lol

[iFloppyy]

are they really so small as we can see in the beginning?

[mrrocker1993]

i would have beeeen PIIISSSSEEEEDD

[qwertylockley]

Oh my god... oh man... I would feel so upset. £8K. How long did it take to build? ****. I'm already feeling bad and it's not even mine.

[YellowBigLemon]

for gods sake they always ruin shows like this by putting music on!!!!!!!!!

[Mark1Spitfire]

One thing for sure is the MC's love the sound of their own voice and babble on, droning out the engines.

[stueyrandall]

OHO NO you set some wood on fire

[Mark1Spitfire]

or grp/carbon fibre

[stueyrandall]

@Mark1Spitfire i was talking about the wood tree thing he hit but all the same aye

[Mark1Spitfire]

yer man, the fence. Vandalism!!!

[stueyrandall]

@Mark1Spitfire should be sent the bill lol

[bamaloid]

disapointing, can you puy smal cameras in these mini planes? that would be kool as fuck !

[Mark1Spitfire]

Yes, you can

[LfcGoddardENGCJG]

the real thing crashed today

[SoulsAlight]

i kno rite.. was lookin for the vid bout found this..

[Mark1Spitfire]

Yer saw that!!! At least the tax payer only lost one jet and no fatalities thank god.

Not heard if it was formation crash or the two jets crossing, like this.!!

Hope the pilot has a speedy recovery

[WEESTRAWZ]

@LfcGoddardENGCJG Yeah, in Greece!

[123ryanmorey]

yer true

[kuba140272]

Jak w życiu.

[Irvine5312x6ma]

What a pitty the display was more than astonishing, shame.... Mark1Spitfire, what did go wrong?

[Mark1Spitfire]

heard elevator servo gave way

[Irvine5312x6ma]

God almighty, this is the worst possible failure for any R/C plane... no way someone can recover if this happens...

Thank you mate for the feedback, your videos are great!

Cheers!

[HighPriestess10]

BTW, I have an army pal (My father was a REME officer), who refuses to go to an airshow anymore. He went to three over the years and during all three there were terrible accidents. He thought he was a jinx! I may get to see the Reds in person soon (fingers crossed)!!

[HighPriestess10]

Sorry to be an idiot but did the pilot eject? I really love the Red Arrows and was posting some links to their performances when I came across this accident. Nice "Top Gun" sound but did the pilot survive/eject? Thanks.

[Mark1Spitfire]

Ha , yer he saftley ejected and has opened up a fish and chip shop. His flying days are over but his frying days have just started.!

[HighPriestess10]

@Mark1Spitfire Thank gawd he escaped safely and nobody was hurt in the crowd! LOL at his frying days! A chippie? Blimey mate, what a comedown haha!! Thanks for the reply and also for the neat footage.

Regards, Lo (Reds fanatic!!)

[westy178]

Are you serious? They are Radio Controlled models!!!!!

[HaterzOwnYoAss]

Cool, cows in the background :D

[Mark1Spitfire]

Flying on farms has that effect.!!

[matoy77]

What the hell, the slow-mo at the end makes the corwd sound like cows.

[Mark1Spitfire]

Moooooooooooooooooo.!!!

[theagent104]

@matoy77 LOL!!

[matoy77]

Why did the crowd scream? Its just a model.

[Mark1Spitfire]

A loud bang, not picked up on camera.

[Trig10uk]

Great display such a shame. Could be mistaken for thinking it was the real thing espcially when the smoke was on and the camera was zoomed up close. I do love the slow mo at the end hearing the women sound like jabba

[Mark1Spitfire]

Great comment...!!!

[Mark1Spitfire]

yep, its very impressive to see. Jabba was funny.!!

[weeleybin]

Thats a real shame because you guys were flying those aircraft beautifully!

[jedrinck]

Great display and great crash. Jets crash in a much more satisfying manner than for example F5D racers. I feel sorry for the owner, so much money and work. Some of the RC crashes I've witnessed left everybody around inluding the owners somewhat euphoric though, provided it looked spectacular enough.

[buttercupline]

how bad was the dameage just thinging by the small explosion it must have been bad

[Mark1Spitfire]

Nothing left,atomised

[buttercupline]

so just the skeleton of the hawk was it hell that must been some explosion

[Mark1Spitfire]

A loud bang too was heard, the camera wasn't ready to pick that up.

I held the camera, so the two planes would cross in the middle of the frame, by luck caught the moment of doom.

[buttercupline]

good job it was in the bushes and not in the crowd good piloting from matt

[pieholekid]

They didn't seem that shoked when matt Bishop crashe. all they were saying nice preformence! Nice Bae haukes!

[archiepops]

How much does a jet like that cost? :)

[WebsterFlyers]

read the description

[archiepops]

Oh I see now apologies bet that was awful when it crashed would have been gutted.

[buttercupline]

nearly 6 thousand

[archiepops]

OUCH!!!!!!

[PitbullNL]

Man, that was an expensive loss

[2006jamin]

aww man that was great hope the jet survived

[Mark1Spitfire]

I think it atomised.!

[Aircraftfreak155]

wow i feel so bad for them i honestly dbout that there is much more than a beat up turbine after that.

[happyhouse152]

Who crashed? Was it Ali or the other guy?

[Mark1Spitfire]

Not Ali...!!! mat bishop

[happyhouse152]

Then why was Ali there at 2.16?

And would the skymaster hawk be a good trainner jet or something easier?

[Mark1Spitfire]

Ali was also demonstracting his great skills at the woodsprings 2009 show.

However this dual flight was NOT his flight slot.

It was father and son Steve and matt bishop display team.

It was matt bishop that crashed.

Ali took the transmitter off matt who was shaken up by the incident and gave support to him. Good fella.

[pieholekid]

Did matt bishop survive?

[yak5408]

boomerangs are the best trainer rc jet. Highly reccommend it!

[Mark1Spitfire]

why? Coz they keep coming back?

[yak5408]

lol

[bollwerkman]

My heart is bleeding! What a beautiful plane and so much work destroyed. Hope your baby is well again!

[WakeUpDummies]

What a miracle non one got hurt.

[Mark1Spitfire]

Not really. Strict, well thought out saftey codes are practiced at public shows. Credit to the system. Exactly why,no one was hurt

[WakeUpDummies]

Sorry mark.. I was half joking (the RC aspect of it not the safety of the crowd :)

[sbrizz2]

dispiace... era comunque un bel volo sincronizzato

[learntoflywell]

There is a basic flaw in all that goes with power models. The crash record speaks for itself.

[Mark1Spitfire]

good vs bad flight ratio?

[WinchesterRanger]

Very true to the story of Top Gun, but it must get a bit expensive crashing one every time.

[corsair17]

Never leave your wingman!