The good news is abortion is legal, and will always be. The bad news is that the three anti choice fools that lay down in front of a truck and got run over all walked away uninjured.
@Mirewood Seemed like a petty attack to me. So Who are you really? All I know is that you don't actually exist according to youtube. Your comments dont affect me. Why am I so convinced that I am talking to a "NOBODY."
@Mirewood Let me remind you that you chose to fight my comments. Second, I can post anything and say anything I want here. I am using my freedom of speech or has this country forgotten its purpose. Third, you petty attacked me (you know, the part where you wanted to report me to authorities) so I reserve the right to do the same on to you. GOOD DAY TO YOU AND GOD BLESS!
@Mirewood It means the same meaning. Opening a window of opportunity to murder. So yes, Pro-choice= Pro-abortion. When you do the math it always comes down to one thing or the other. So what is your pick?
@elemental sorry, pro-choice does NOT mean pro-abortion. you can lie all you like and try to intentionally paint an opposing view as something isn't, but it doesn't change reality. pro-choice means you want the choice to be legal, NOT that you want abortions to take place. and it IS accurate to call you people anti-choice, because you don't want the choice to be legal. and none of us are anti-life, so pro-life is an inaccurate depiction. it is pro-choice and anti-choice. those are accurate.
@slyjokerg Pro-choice means having to choose to have a life or not. Pro-life means life all the way with no choosing to have death. So, either way, Pro-choice gives a woman an opportunity to choose death for her child. It is murder no matter how you look at it. Pro-choice fits Pro- abortion. You can argue with me on this but either way, but changing the words does not change the meaning.
@elementaldragon244 pro-choice means you support a woman's right to choose abortion, or NOT choose abortion. we are very much pro-life, so calling yourself that isn't a distinction. the proper, accurate labels are pro-choice and anti-choice. we are NOT pro-abortion. we ARE pro-life. and abortion rights are not simply about choosing death. it is about the most important, intimate freedom and liberty. abortion is horrible, and not allowing it is far worse.
@slyjokerg If you are pro-life than why are you opening a door for choosing to have a death. Believe me, I like my American Freedom just like anyone else but Choosing between life and death is no option. Abortion is choosing death, You can't define it any other way. Abortion is selfishness. Allowing Abortion gives rise to reckless sex which leads to pregnancies. It is sick to kill all the unborn without taking the responcibility to raise them. Abortion is cowardness to take responsibility.
@elementaldragon244 "If you are pro-life than why are you opening a door for choosing to have a death." you don't seem to understand that being pro-life doesn't mean that i have to want life over all else, no matter what. that is mindless. "Abortion is choosing death." and i don't want abortions to take place. i support CHOICE. i want CHOICE. i do not WANT abortions. CONT...
@elem CONT.. "reckeless sex" is 100% legal, so there is no basis to punish anyone for it. plus, having an abortion doesn't mean you had "reckless sex."It is sick to kill all the unborn without taking the responcibility to raise them." where did you get that "all the unborn" are ever going to be killed? no choice here EVER kills all the unborn organisms that come to exist. one woman chooses what to do about a pregnancy going on inside and of her own body. and abortion IS taking responsibility.
@slyjokerg Oh so your saying that its ok for you go have sex and get pregnant with one partner then go to another partner and get pregnant again and so forth. Then you kill unborn cause you dont want to take responsibility in raising them. Abortion is not responsibility. It is laziness of a low-life human being who thinks that she is the center of the world and cant be a parent for her child because she is too busy F*ck*ng. That is reckless sex. (Continued)
@elementaldragon244 yes, it is absolutely ok to have sex and get pregnant, over and over again, with one person, or different people, no matter what you or i think about it philosophically. and the unborn is killed for any of a billion reasons, and not necessarily at all because the person doesn't want to raise a child. and yes, having an abortion IS taking responsibility. it doesn't matter if you think it is lazy, or if someone had "reckless" sex. women are free and can abort for any reason.
@elementaldragon244 sorry, but i am not sick-minded at all. i support freedom and liberty. if you are against such, then you are the sick person. and no, i have never performed an abortion, so i am not an abortionist, by definition.
@elementaldragon244 oh, and btw, there is no basis to think that god exists, let alone that he/she/it has anything to do with mercy. you might as well replace "god" with "spider-man."
@elementaldragon244 you were always talking to an atheist. and there are atheists that are anti-choice. so your attempt to categorize atheists is unwarranted. but there certainly is a stronger likelihood of an atheist being supportive of freedom and liberty, and of a religious person being brainwashed an narrow minded and wanting to control others.
@slyjokerg (From Continued) When Someone is responsible for her body, she should at least be responsible for the life she carries instead of laziness as I meantioned in my earlier comment. If She can't care for her child, she may want to give the child to foster care. It is her flesh and Blood so she needs to take responsibility and raise the child.
FOR THE RECORD, You are not Pro-life. My reason, you sure don't act like one and you don't share the view of one.
@elementaldragon244 your personal feelings aren't anyone else's problem. it doesn't matter what you think someone else should do. the issue is the right to be the one to decide what to do about a pregnancy inside and of your own body. you are free to have whatever opinions you like, but that doesn't mean you can force women to do what you prefer. that's the bottom line. and yes, i am very pro-life. and that doesn't mean i can't be pro-choice simultaneously.
@slyjokerg My personal feelings.......Please.......I am just doing my job. You might want to reconsider your choice on being pro-life. Cause you are not one. You seem to like the idea of killing unborn infants.
@elementaldragon244 doing your job? you might think so, but they ARE your personal feelings. i am very pro-life. you seem to be taking that as me saying i am against abortion rights. that isn't what it means. in regard to abortion rights, the two positions are pro-choice and anti-choice. virtually every person on earth is pro-life. using that moniker is meaningless. the issue is about supporting the right to choose, or not. and that choice is to abort or NOT abort a pregnancy.
@elementaldragon244 and they aren't infants. of course, i HATE the idea of killing infants. but that isn't what they are, and i hate the idea of killing them as well anyway. i hate NOT ALLOWING abortion far more. abortion is terrible, and now allowing it is far worse.
@elementaldragon244 "unborn infants" is an oxymoron. but all of that is semantics. i simply don't like the constant river of emotionally contrived lingo that your kind offers.
@slyjokerg you seem to be persistant but at the same time confused. I am gonna send you a 1 minute video. Tell me what you think of it. And also tell me if you're a pro-life or pro-choice. Here is the link. Maybe for once you can see my point of view.
@elementaldragon244 everyone is pro-life. it is an inaccurate, misleading moniker as a label for your position on abortion rights. i am pro-life, as virtually all people are. AND i am pro-choice, which describes my position on abortion rights. your position is not pro-life. it is anti-choice. what is relevant is whether you support the right to choose, not whether you support life. all of us support life. the issue is about being pro-choice, or anti-choice. get it now? probably not.
@slyjokerg you cannot be both pro-life and pro-choice. I don't think you understand. How can you side with pro-life when you chose that murder should happen especially giving it a chance to happen? As for the video, It makes perfect sense. You just can't accept it. I will stand with my believe and protect the unborn. As for you, I hope that the Lord, will make you see, whether you believe in him or not, that the road you choose only leads you to a dead end with no return.
@elementaldragon244 yes, i can be and am both pro-life and pro-choice. pro-life is not something unique to anti-choicers. you are the one that doesn't understand. and i don't support murder. i support the right to choose abortion, which isn't murder. the video makes no sense. it isn't a human being, which she indicates is a fact. it isn't. and the issue is about the condition of pregnancy being unique and warranting unique rights, which she ignores.
@slyjokerg "and i don't support murder. i support the right to choose abortion" Yeah, sorry to disapoint you but that is Murder! AND YOU SUPPORT IT. You are so proud of it you make this world bleed. YOU AND YOUR KIND. This is the last comment I write to you. NOT because I am giving up, but because you like murder. Sorry But I dont write or talk to killers. You are not human or animal. You are below that and that is just sick.
@elementaldragon244 sorry to slap you with reality, but it literally isn't murder. you mistake what you wish was true for what IS true. abortion isn't murder. you want it to be, but it isn't. you need to get that straight. i hate murder, and always will. and i have never killed anyone. calling me a killer is a lie, and of course, you had no basis to state it in the first place. the person deserving of ridicule is you, the supporter of slavery, which is what denying abortion rights is.
ABORTION IS MURDER. PERIOD. END OF STORY. DON'T COME BACK TO ME REGRETTING.
PS: I dont support slavery, Where did you get that stupid idea? I know what BIOPOWER is but abortion is a human choice and THAT I DO NOT SUPPORT! I'll Keep my freedom, my life, my guns, my money, YOU CAN KEEP YOUR CHANGE!
@elementaldragon244 LOL regretting? wtf are you talking about? and abortion literally isn't murder. you are substituting your philosophical view for what is actually true. and if you wish to control a woman's body and force her to do something with it for your purposes, then you support slavery. that is what forcing a woman to remain pregnant and give birth is. you don't have a right to use her body. no one does.
@TFYFWYA MY GOD YOU PEOPLE ARE STUPID! PRO-LIFE IS NOT PRO SLAVERY. I chose pro-life because I am against murder. I am not a slave to the government nor to god. I chose to live pro-life. I am against choice because it allows you to choose to kill a living being inside a womb. That is murder and sick. If I had a choice between being a slave or kill to live free I think I'll chose me being a slave. Why? cause I have morals unlike you killers.
Look, asswipe, don't be mad at me just because I'm way smarter than you.
Being pro forced birth is evil and it means you want women to be slaves and die. Again, if you can't understand that, it's because of YOUR stupidity and evilness.
Even if you weren't lying about being a woman (and you are) I'd still be smarter than you because I am a woman who believes in my own freedom whereas you would be a woman who wants to be a second class citizen. Chew on that, monkeyboy.
@TFYFWYA You are not smart in fact very stupid. How dare you call yourself a feminist. You are the last class BITCH to say something like this. I enjoy my freedom as anyone else here and just because I am pro-life it does not mean that I am a slave to a man. That is DISPICABLE. I never had a man nor a father. I am me and I choose to be me. And for that I, being a woman, am the first class citizen using my own right of free speech. I have freedom and this is the way I want to live it. Shove it!
You don't even have a basic grasp of grammar, yet you want to proclaim that you are smarter than me.
I'm not sure you realize just how over your head you are with me, kiddie. I've forgotten more about social justice than your 17 year old ass will ever know.
@TFYFWYA I never said I was smarter than you but you act dumb. You don't even know how old I am so why are you so judgemental about people. A little quote of advise for you: "Those who claim to be smarter than someone else is a fool." The only person you are hurting here is yourself. Your Blasphemy and hypocrisy are only words that enter one ear and exits out the other and never attaches the message to the brain of the recipient. And I am not being smart, but honest.
Are you fucking brain damaged? You can't even keep track of what YOU YOURSELF JUST SAID, how the FUCK do you think you're going to make a point about anything?
Also, your quote is grammatically incorrect.
From your reaction, I'm betting that I got the age spot on.
You should go to bed now. You have school tomorrow kiddie.
@TFYFWYA Let me see, No, my brain is fine. But you might want to check yours. I am a lot older than you think and school is way behind me. So far you got my sex and age wrong and I can tell that you think that I am some type of misogynists. Well, you got that wrong too. Pro-life does not automatically prove that you chose to be a misogynist. Thats some BS you concluded on. Why don't do your occupation that is mentioned on your profile and stop harassing people you don't even know, kiddo.
@TFYFWYA What's the matter? Can't sleep? My Mama, living thousands of miles away, praises me for taking care of people like you, even if it is past my bedtime. Why don't you go back to school and take a class in sociology of sexuality and also take a class in human anatomy, psychology, and communication. Maybe you'll be smart enough to comment me back something worth talking about. Go to bed sweetheart, your body tires you and your way of thinking strait.
I could have talked circles around you when I was 12. You can hardly form sentences and have a grasp of grammar that is tenuous at best. Again, you are way over your head here.
@TFYFWYA Look who's talking big. At least I don't jump to conclusions like you do OR look extremely stupid if front of millions of people. Let me remind you again, you put yourself in my circle thus challenging me in a controversial debate. If you think I would change my mind in order to think like you, well you are wrong. I know how you think and like you I have been down that road and that road leads you to despair. Think about it before you loose yourself indefinitely.
@TFYFWYA So your body is in your control. While you're choosing how to take care of it, why don't you rip out your heart? Cause you don't need one. Yes, you are debating me because you are telling me off on my beliefs and I am doing the same to yours. I am not evil here, YOU ARE! You are selfish and self-absorbed. Disgrace to humanity.
@elementaldragon244 sigh. that video doesn't say anything that hasn't been spewed a million times. it is off the mark in about a thousand ways. what she says is not stipulated, contains straw man arguing, and doesn't address everything that the issue entails. it is the same nonsense said for the millionth time. it isn't a human being, but it wouldn't matter if it was. and "innocent" is pointless only said to evoke emotion. does someone think it is guilty of arson or something?
@Mirewood I was being honest with you. I don't know my future plans when it comes to murder but I will write this, Abortion is murder. And thats something I do not plan to do. Have fun with your sexual pleasures and diseases. You Pro-Abortion Humans are worse than animals. In Fact, you are the world's Abomination. Nothing but mere cockroaches. Don't bother replying.
@Mirewood I have not killed anyone yet. God knows where I'm going. But I say this, Any commandments broken by man is rejection to God, Rejection = Hell.
Every living being deserves a life. People who get abortion are selfish and ignorent who have just signed a contract with the devil. SEE YA IN HELL MURDERERS!
Kids can't get into a R rated movie but can walk down the street and see their disgusting signs. I am pro choice but I would never have an abortion myself. These idiots are exploiting dead babies/ featus. How are they any better than the people getting the abortions.
@hatchetface5366 there is nothing inherently wrong with someone simply because she chooses to have an abortion. i am glad, however, to know that you would not try to impose your personal choice on someone else... that is the issue.
As much as pro-life tries to do the right thing, they don't. They need to adopt and take care of kids that were had by parents who chose not to abort. Needless to say, there are unwanted children in this world. (BTW, adopt in USA, because it's easier to get a kid overseas than our own country.)
I think every child they save from being aborted should be sent to there house for them to raise and take care of. They should be responsible for the children.
@ekajeht What about the men that got the women pregnant? What about the women who are raped? You obviously haven't thought very hard about this at all. That or you have some serious mommy issues that you may need to seek help for.
@bellareina05 we are not saying that these mothers must raise their children, they can be adopted and live with other families. they only deserve a chance to live.
@florhh14 adoption is not an alternative to abortion. adoption is an alternative to keeping a born being and raising it. adoption does not end a pregnancy, nor prevent childbirth... so it isn't an alternative to abortion. and "they deserve a chance to live" is both an opined, subjective conclusion, and irrelevant to a woman's rights. even if it is stipulated, the woman is not a slave, and the organism's right to live is contingent upon the woman granting it the privilege to exist inside her.
PUNISH THE SLUTS!! IF THEY CHOOSE to have sex, they should be forced to live with the consequences. Otherwise how will they ever learn? They'll just keep on fornicating like rabbits without any PUNISHMENT!!
@ForcedBirther You are joking right? Women do not use abortion as birth control, they use it to avoid the suffering of an unborn baby without eyes, kidneys, lungs etc. and to avoid the extreme stress that it puts on entire families that drive some to suicide.
@ForcedBirther so if u get raped u wan the kid?? hell no its a choice, she has the choice, dnt force ur ideas into another thats wrong, pro-choice is what america was founded on. she has a freedom, she has the right, why the fuck do u come into her equation? this is exactly why we have sane ppl running things, so idiots who like to control ppl (like china) arnt caling shots, you communists scum
Pro life advocates are propaganda machines, cultivating hatred of abortion with deciet & lies. They foster public indifference as Hitler did w/ the Jews
What could be worse than setting serial killers on the loose, taking the back alley and putting it on Main Street in the form of Planned Barrenhood?
What's indifferent about trying to offer constructive solutions to life's problems instead of wantonly murdering children for the sake of personal convenience?
What's indifferent about refusing to be silent as the abortion industry continues to aid and abet sex slavery and human trafficking on a mass scale?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To what? Your reading comp indeed abysmal if you dont know that the words, "cultivating a hatred of abortion means indifference to....... ABORTION. If youre intending to play games with me, dont bother..I;ll be out of here. I dont have time for unintelligent BS.
Again, if you're saying indifference to to child-killing as an institution, I see no reason why my activism should cause people to suddenly lose interest in a controversial topic. If you're trying to assume "abortion" as part of "women's rights", then sure!
I'm all for exposing empty rhetoric, leaving the public to lose interest in your tried-and-failed fallacies--especially when that rhetoric is being used to protect serial killers and rapists from justice.
@Velokid93 says:they belong in jail for their good and the good of others.
~~~~~~~~~~~~ Shame on you for wanting your once sweet, adored, and worshipped embryos imprisonsed...at what point do you stop caring about your embryos? Birth? LOLOLOL............ Sure it is. Thats fetal obsession..youre sick.
@Velokid93 says: putting it on Main Street in the form of Planned Barrenhood?
~~~~~~~~~~ Planned Parenthood? Hmmmm, isnt it interesting that you say that when, in 2010 Planned parenthood preformed a mere 134,000 abortions! Who is doing the other 866,000? Silly child, its every small town doc in the counrty. Youre use of PP as the proverbial probirth bad guy, just made you look ignorant.
~~~~~~~~~~ I doubt the 400 NAF facitlites are more in number than Ob/ gyn's that are doing aboritons. AND, as long as they are being done legally & safely, who cares who's doing them?
@Velokid93 says: constructive solutions to life's problems instead of wantonly murdering children
~~~~~~~~~~~ The "difference " IS..that you will NEVER be able to tell a women what HER god damned "constructive solutions" will be in her own life. And your PROLIFE LIES saying abortion is murder, wont work either. If you want to redefine english words to suit you, fine, but dont be upset when better educated people make you look foolish...
~~~~~~~~~ What? you mean you dont know the deifntion of murder, yet you are in here using the word as if you do? Ok, One more lessson for the probirther to lazy to look it up for himself. Murder is the illegal killing of a human bing. Abortion ISNT illegal, and a embryo isnt a human being. Si simple...how did y ou miss it..Or better yet, WHY did you?
@Sueezee1 says="a fetus isn't a human being which equals NOT murder" ----- Scott Peterson was charged and convicted of -- TWO -- MURDERS ! (1) His wife (2) THE UNBORN FETUS IN HER ! So it -- IS-- murder when a fetus is murdered. But hey suzy....don't let me showing everyone you are a fool stop you from posting. Because no one needed me to show them .They all know you for the fool you are. BTW-Show this post to your daughter and tell her she WAS right! She did murder her child!
this is getting old explaining this to religious zealots .... but Connors Law was enacted in Ca because the conceptus in this case was in the perinatal stage of development where the fetus is, in theory anyway, "viable" meaning it could likely survive in the extrauterine environment ......
the law prescribes the gestational ages where medical abortion is performed and you know this. Late term abortions are rare by any standard. What the hell is the matter with you anyway besides having a bible stuck up your illiterate rectum?
more like 6.5% so that children who get raped by a family member have a chance at life themselves. This is why states have places restrictions on abortion practices. duh
Consider cases of say pre-eclampsia which can occur in up to 10% of pregnancies commencing somewhere around week 20 gestational age and becoming fatal by week 32. There are high rates of mortality in both the conceptus and the mother.
For those of use who have women that they love. sisters, daughters, mothers, friends, we are thankful that medical abortion is safe and available and that we don't have to lose them due to the practice of antediluvian myths.
@Velokid93 says: According to your definition, slavery was legal, therefore it wasn't a violation of rights!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ hahahahahah it WASNT a violation of rights because slaves had NO rights to violate and it WAS legal. What school did you you go to??:<LMFAO
@Velokid93 says , and their maltreatment was perfectly legal, so that wasn't murder either!
~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hahahahah NO it wasnt!!! ... how in the hell can it be MUDRER , which is an ILLEGAL killing...when it was LEGAL... God, i love showing the dumbness prolifers.
@Velokid93 says:Murder=killing of a human being apart from any "due process of law"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ How can there be due process if there is no frickin crime (murder) committed???? PLEASE, tell me youre 12 yrs old so I can leave you alone and not get angry that youre an ignorant adult. PLEASE!!
Call abortion wrong or say you disagree with the law, but when you call it murder, you make crazy people feel entitled to pick up a gun.
If you want to participate in domestic terrorism and incite the more unstable individuals among you to murder living, breathing members of society then continue to use and participate in hyperbolic rhetoric.
You can point fingers, whine and call an opposing position "hyperbole" all you want, but the fact remains that less than a dozen deaths have resulted from individuals turning to vigilantism in hopes of "saving children".
Pro-aborts, on the other hand, seem to have an extraordinarily difficult time being non-violent, and while I or others who are pro-life may attribute that fact to the pro-abortion ideology, I'd simply like to ask, why?
the fact remains that you and other religious zealots have blood on your hands for inciting the unstable nuts among your religious cause to murder living, breathing members of society. The statistics DO NOT support your assertions .... religion is your problem since it has a long history of violence . Just look at the KKK and AOG and other southern militant anti-choice groups. guns, god, embryos, gay marriage ... same loonies
Between all the atheist totalitarian regimes of the 20th century and those of the present day, as well as such happenings as the French Revolution, atheists and anti-theists have killed many more people over religion than religious folk have.
uh huh .... but in case you haven't checked lately this is the 21st century. Perhaps it's time to recognize the failures of religion and rabid reactionary conservatism and get some level of education for the love of mike....
@perfectbark I fail to see what your problem with religion is (apart from the menace of people believing in objective truth).
How does the 21st century of Christ have anything to do with the fact that anti-religious folks like yourself have foisted off a society on the world, which seeks to suppress freedom?
Thanks to you and your kind, we in the majority of the First World are witnessing societal meltdowns and even race-suicide on an alarming scale.
You're religion, and others .... have brought unmeasurable suffering to humanity. Thanks to your kind we have Fox news, televangelist charlatans bilking money from old ladies, lunatics flying airplanes into buildings, children being trained to blow themselves up in crowded market places, children molested and abused by christian clerics, doctors being murdered in the name of a myth ... and that's just in this decade.
-Fox news: Yeah, I don't like 'em either (With their fake "conservative/libertarian" ghetto). In fact, I can't stand the hypocrites on talk radio as well, so we agree on this point.
-Televangelists: Agreed again, nothing more to say here.
-Lunatics in airplanes/suicide children bombers: since when was one of these a Christian?
-Sexual abuse by Christian clerics: I'm surprised you cite this since almost ALL of these clerics had ideologies similar to your's and were, in many cases, simply using religion as a business--definitely not the first time such a thing has been done. But what about the precious government-run school system, which has astronomically higher incidences of child molestation, and 0% of the bad publicity?
Add to that the fact that our elite, anti-religious ruling classes seem hell-bent on subjugating the Third World and bringing them down along with us.
I can have no respect for a position which has, without exception, brought misery and chaos in its wake EVERY TIME it has been experimented with, in one form or another.
wrong, see the documentary Jesus Camp here on youtube ..... you're probably in it. But the fact is that these antediluvian beliefs lead to the subjugation of women. Erudition is the solution, beginning with you a male religious extremist.
Your impeccable, unbiased, historically accurate information AMAZES me!
I never knew such wisdom to be found in a doctored film!
*rolls eyes*.
I think citing something as laughable as that disqualifies you from discussion on religion altogether, or from any debate for that matter.
Hell, if you weren't atheist, I'd expect you to start quoting the Book of Mormon--complete with all the archeological basis of accuracy to be found therein....
And then again, how about my close friends at Secular Pro-Life, or the Atheist and Agnostic Pro-Life League, or Feminists For Life, or The Pro-Life Alliance of Gays and Lesbians?
@Velokid93 no their not zealots, their just fucking stupid. There were women against woman's rights regarding property and voting rights as well, but that doesn't make them "right" just because they were women instead of men.
we live in a world where 1 billion people live on $1 or less a day and don't have access to sanitary water for bathing or drinking. More than 70 per cent of almost 11 million child deaths every year are attributable to six causes: diarrhoea, malaria, neonatal infection, pneumonia, preterm delivery, or lack of oxygen at birth. Malnutrition and the lack of safe water and sanitation contribute to half of all children’s deaths.
source: UNICEF ........ and it ain't gonna get mo better
Thanks to the efforts of brave men and women, "those twin relics of barbarism, slavery and polygamy" were done away with in America. Now, two other barbaric practices (wayyyy more perverse than the first two), those of abortion/infanticide and homosexuality, are being heralded as somehow "enlightened".
Roeder is a nobody, like Loughner, an angry, illiterate, undereducated lone gunman, a sociopathic associate of Operation Rescue. Close friends??? .... I don't think so ..... either way. R v W is settled law after almost 40 years. The days of the aseptic back room abortion are well in the past now in spite of activism by loonies that equate abortion with murder. No matter how you parse the issue .... violence and domestic terrorism are not the answer.
courts interpret and apply the law where case law is the result. Roe v Wade is settled law as hundreds of cases have been presented that challenged it over much of it's almost 40 year history ..... learn to live with it.
and you incite sociopaths into committing murder ... that is, killing living, breathing members of society, by the use of rhetoric and emotive language that incites unstable nuts into violent acts. By extension you also have blood on your hands in the murder of those of us living lawfully and peacefully ..... religion is at fault here, and there will never be peace in this world until religion in all of its incarnations becomes extinct, as all religions eventually do ....
@Velokid93 says: hat's indifferent about refusing to be silent as the abortion industry continues to aid and abet sex slavery and human trafficking on a mass scale?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ hahahahaha, you clearly fall too short in your capacity for principle-level and abstract thinking to debate this matter
Saul Alinsky always praised the value of ridicule--and rightly so. I don't happen to be quite as adept at Ad Hominem attacks as you are, so I'll pass, but as far as I know, that's a logical fallacy anyway.
Call abortion wrong or say you disagree with the law, but when you call it murder, you make crazy people feel entitled to pick up a gun.
If you want to participate in domestic terrorism and incite the more unstable individuals among you to murder living, breathing members of society then continue to use and participate in hyperbolic rhetoric.
and it's interesting that you are silent when it comes to the crimes against humanity committed by the religion industry over the millennia. save the embryo, molest, abuse, neglect the living breathing child.
Quite so--and even MORE interesting to note that 99% of those creeps got there thanks to a well-organized liberal push to place ideological brethren in positions of power for them to abuse within Christianity.
Well, as you folks continue to be exposed due to your own errant behaviors and greed, expect that your numbers will continue to decline. Then again, you always can count on the religion industry to invent novel ways to exploit the illiterate, the desperate, the uneducated and the stupid.
Exposing what takes place in facilities run by the likes of Dr. Gosnell would shock voters into taking decisive action to make abortion illegal. This is why the killing of innocent unborn children is done largely away from public view. It is a creeping, hidden genocide that can continue only if the fiction of abortion being a "medical procedure" is maintained
i certainly don't agree with these peoples views however they conducted them selfs wonderfully. If only all people in protest for one thing or another could conduct them selfs in such a manor.
Why is he so arrogant? If he feels he should be informed of any laws or ordinances he's violating before being persecuted, you'd think he would do a little research before acting.
I'm against abortion, but show a little common sense, and do something productive with the passion for your cause, don't just occupy space and give it a bad reputation.
The police have to inform you of the violation, they just cant tell you to do something because he feels like it. As in the second case where he informed the guy they were blocking an entrance.
Man that chick is annoying....too bad her mom didn't abort her. Of course she doesn't believe in abortion why should she? I doubt any man would want to fuck her.
people don't have a heart nor a concience to allow babies to get killed its sickening!!!! abosolutely sick! if you can abort you can kill a person might as well....... same thing lol
agreed. looks like he has a "well im not breaking the law so you cant do anything about it." attitude. ive driven past abortion protests in hagerstown a few times where the protesters were either standing in the street parking spaces or even further out into the street. the officer should have dropped that guy like in the video taken infront of duffy's.
Hagerstown, MD Abortion Protest Video Didn't a bloody battle 145 years ago in a cornfield nearby teach folks anything?? It breaks my heart that the righteous citizens of Hagerstown would permit, with legal sanction, the wholesale slaughter of its littlest, voiceless and defenseless citizens. Again, haven't we learned ANYTHING?!?
The good news is abortion is legal, and will always be. The bad news is that the three anti choice fools that lay down in front of a truck and got run over all walked away uninjured.
MrHaggis03 1 month ago
PRO-LIFE ALL THE WAY!
(Dislikes are usually marked by murderers and demons)
:P
elementaldragon244 1 month ago
@Mirewood Seemed like a petty attack to me. So Who are you really? All I know is that you don't actually exist according to youtube. Your comments dont affect me. Why am I so convinced that I am talking to a "NOBODY."
elementaldragon244 2 months ago
@Mirewood Let me remind you that you chose to fight my comments. Second, I can post anything and say anything I want here. I am using my freedom of speech or has this country forgotten its purpose. Third, you petty attacked me (you know, the part where you wanted to report me to authorities) so I reserve the right to do the same on to you. GOOD DAY TO YOU AND GOD BLESS!
elementaldragon244 2 months ago
@Mirewood It means the same meaning. Opening a window of opportunity to murder. So yes, Pro-choice= Pro-abortion. When you do the math it always comes down to one thing or the other. So what is your pick?
elementaldragon244 2 months ago
@elemental sorry, pro-choice does NOT mean pro-abortion. you can lie all you like and try to intentionally paint an opposing view as something isn't, but it doesn't change reality. pro-choice means you want the choice to be legal, NOT that you want abortions to take place. and it IS accurate to call you people anti-choice, because you don't want the choice to be legal. and none of us are anti-life, so pro-life is an inaccurate depiction. it is pro-choice and anti-choice. those are accurate.
slyjokerg 1 month ago
@slyjokerg Pro-choice means having to choose to have a life or not. Pro-life means life all the way with no choosing to have death. So, either way, Pro-choice gives a woman an opportunity to choose death for her child. It is murder no matter how you look at it. Pro-choice fits Pro- abortion. You can argue with me on this but either way, but changing the words does not change the meaning.
elementaldragon244 1 month ago
@elementaldragon244 pro-choice means you support a woman's right to choose abortion, or NOT choose abortion. we are very much pro-life, so calling yourself that isn't a distinction. the proper, accurate labels are pro-choice and anti-choice. we are NOT pro-abortion. we ARE pro-life. and abortion rights are not simply about choosing death. it is about the most important, intimate freedom and liberty. abortion is horrible, and not allowing it is far worse.
slyjokerg 1 month ago
@slyjokerg If you are pro-life than why are you opening a door for choosing to have a death. Believe me, I like my American Freedom just like anyone else but Choosing between life and death is no option. Abortion is choosing death, You can't define it any other way. Abortion is selfishness. Allowing Abortion gives rise to reckless sex which leads to pregnancies. It is sick to kill all the unborn without taking the responcibility to raise them. Abortion is cowardness to take responsibility.
elementaldragon244 1 month ago
@elementaldragon244 "If you are pro-life than why are you opening a door for choosing to have a death." you don't seem to understand that being pro-life doesn't mean that i have to want life over all else, no matter what. that is mindless. "Abortion is choosing death." and i don't want abortions to take place. i support CHOICE. i want CHOICE. i do not WANT abortions. CONT...
slyjokerg 1 month ago
@elem CONT.. "reckeless sex" is 100% legal, so there is no basis to punish anyone for it. plus, having an abortion doesn't mean you had "reckless sex."It is sick to kill all the unborn without taking the responcibility to raise them." where did you get that "all the unborn" are ever going to be killed? no choice here EVER kills all the unborn organisms that come to exist. one woman chooses what to do about a pregnancy going on inside and of her own body. and abortion IS taking responsibility.
slyjokerg 1 month ago
@slyjokerg Oh so your saying that its ok for you go have sex and get pregnant with one partner then go to another partner and get pregnant again and so forth. Then you kill unborn cause you dont want to take responsibility in raising them. Abortion is not responsibility. It is laziness of a low-life human being who thinks that she is the center of the world and cant be a parent for her child because she is too busy F*ck*ng. That is reckless sex. (Continued)
elementaldragon244 1 month ago
@elementaldragon244 yes, it is absolutely ok to have sex and get pregnant, over and over again, with one person, or different people, no matter what you or i think about it philosophically. and the unborn is killed for any of a billion reasons, and not necessarily at all because the person doesn't want to raise a child. and yes, having an abortion IS taking responsibility. it doesn't matter if you think it is lazy, or if someone had "reckless" sex. women are free and can abort for any reason.
slyjokerg 1 month ago
@slyjokerg You're a sick-minded idiot. I can't believe I am writing to an abortionist! May God Have Mercy on You!
elementaldragon244 1 month ago
@elementaldragon244 sorry, but i am not sick-minded at all. i support freedom and liberty. if you are against such, then you are the sick person. and no, i have never performed an abortion, so i am not an abortionist, by definition.
slyjokerg 1 month ago
@slyjokerg You are an abortionist because you believe like one and think like one.
elementaldragon244 1 month ago
@elementaldragon244 um, an abortionist is someone who performs abortions. i don't perform them, thus i am not one. pretty simple stuff, kiddo.
slyjokerg 1 month ago
@elementaldragon244 oh, and btw, there is no basis to think that god exists, let alone that he/she/it has anything to do with mercy. you might as well replace "god" with "spider-man."
slyjokerg 1 month ago
@slyjokerg Great, Now I am talking to an atheist. No wonder why you act like an abortionist. I pity you.
elementaldragon244 1 month ago
@elementaldragon244 you were always talking to an atheist. and there are atheists that are anti-choice. so your attempt to categorize atheists is unwarranted. but there certainly is a stronger likelihood of an atheist being supportive of freedom and liberty, and of a religious person being brainwashed an narrow minded and wanting to control others.
slyjokerg 1 month ago
@slyjokerg (From Continued) When Someone is responsible for her body, she should at least be responsible for the life she carries instead of laziness as I meantioned in my earlier comment. If She can't care for her child, she may want to give the child to foster care. It is her flesh and Blood so she needs to take responsibility and raise the child.
FOR THE RECORD, You are not Pro-life. My reason, you sure don't act like one and you don't share the view of one.
elementaldragon244 1 month ago
@elementaldragon244 your personal feelings aren't anyone else's problem. it doesn't matter what you think someone else should do. the issue is the right to be the one to decide what to do about a pregnancy inside and of your own body. you are free to have whatever opinions you like, but that doesn't mean you can force women to do what you prefer. that's the bottom line. and yes, i am very pro-life. and that doesn't mean i can't be pro-choice simultaneously.
slyjokerg 1 month ago
@slyjokerg My personal feelings.......Please.......I am just doing my job. You might want to reconsider your choice on being pro-life. Cause you are not one. You seem to like the idea of killing unborn infants.
elementaldragon244 1 month ago
@elementaldragon244 doing your job? you might think so, but they ARE your personal feelings. i am very pro-life. you seem to be taking that as me saying i am against abortion rights. that isn't what it means. in regard to abortion rights, the two positions are pro-choice and anti-choice. virtually every person on earth is pro-life. using that moniker is meaningless. the issue is about supporting the right to choose, or not. and that choice is to abort or NOT abort a pregnancy.
slyjokerg 1 month ago
@elementaldragon244 and they aren't infants. of course, i HATE the idea of killing infants. but that isn't what they are, and i hate the idea of killing them as well anyway. i hate NOT ALLOWING abortion far more. abortion is terrible, and now allowing it is far worse.
slyjokerg 1 month ago
@slyjokerg They are UNBORN INFANTS,
elementaldragon244 1 month ago
@elementaldragon244 "unborn infants" is an oxymoron. but all of that is semantics. i simply don't like the constant river of emotionally contrived lingo that your kind offers.
slyjokerg 1 month ago
@slyjokerg you seem to be persistant but at the same time confused. I am gonna send you a 1 minute video. Tell me what you think of it. And also tell me if you're a pro-life or pro-choice. Here is the link. Maybe for once you can see my point of view.
elementaldragon244 1 month ago
@elementaldragon244 everyone is pro-life. it is an inaccurate, misleading moniker as a label for your position on abortion rights. i am pro-life, as virtually all people are. AND i am pro-choice, which describes my position on abortion rights. your position is not pro-life. it is anti-choice. what is relevant is whether you support the right to choose, not whether you support life. all of us support life. the issue is about being pro-choice, or anti-choice. get it now? probably not.
slyjokerg 1 month ago
@slyjokerg you cannot be both pro-life and pro-choice. I don't think you understand. How can you side with pro-life when you chose that murder should happen especially giving it a chance to happen? As for the video, It makes perfect sense. You just can't accept it. I will stand with my believe and protect the unborn. As for you, I hope that the Lord, will make you see, whether you believe in him or not, that the road you choose only leads you to a dead end with no return.
elementaldragon244 1 month ago
@elementaldragon244 yes, i can be and am both pro-life and pro-choice. pro-life is not something unique to anti-choicers. you are the one that doesn't understand. and i don't support murder. i support the right to choose abortion, which isn't murder. the video makes no sense. it isn't a human being, which she indicates is a fact. it isn't. and the issue is about the condition of pregnancy being unique and warranting unique rights, which she ignores.
slyjokerg 1 month ago
@slyjokerg "and i don't support murder. i support the right to choose abortion" Yeah, sorry to disapoint you but that is Murder! AND YOU SUPPORT IT. You are so proud of it you make this world bleed. YOU AND YOUR KIND. This is the last comment I write to you. NOT because I am giving up, but because you like murder. Sorry But I dont write or talk to killers. You are not human or animal. You are below that and that is just sick.
elementaldragon244 1 month ago
@elementaldragon244 sorry to slap you with reality, but it literally isn't murder. you mistake what you wish was true for what IS true. abortion isn't murder. you want it to be, but it isn't. you need to get that straight. i hate murder, and always will. and i have never killed anyone. calling me a killer is a lie, and of course, you had no basis to state it in the first place. the person deserving of ridicule is you, the supporter of slavery, which is what denying abortion rights is.
slyjokerg 1 month ago
@slyjokerg (I thought I Blocked you)
ABORTION IS MURDER. PERIOD. END OF STORY. DON'T COME BACK TO ME REGRETTING.
PS: I dont support slavery, Where did you get that stupid idea? I know what BIOPOWER is but abortion is a human choice and THAT I DO NOT SUPPORT! I'll Keep my freedom, my life, my guns, my money, YOU CAN KEEP YOUR CHANGE!
elementaldragon244 1 month ago
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@elementaldragon244 LOL regretting? wtf are you talking about? and abortion literally isn't murder. you are substituting your philosophical view for what is actually true. and if you wish to control a woman's body and force her to do something with it for your purposes, then you support slavery. that is what forcing a woman to remain pregnant and give birth is. you don't have a right to use her body. no one does.
slyjokerg 1 month ago
@elementaldragon244
If you are anti abortion, you are necessarily pro-slavery. If you can't figure out why, it's only because you are stupid.
TFYFWYA 2 weeks ago
@TFYFWYA MY GOD YOU PEOPLE ARE STUPID! PRO-LIFE IS NOT PRO SLAVERY. I chose pro-life because I am against murder. I am not a slave to the government nor to god. I chose to live pro-life. I am against choice because it allows you to choose to kill a living being inside a womb. That is murder and sick. If I had a choice between being a slave or kill to live free I think I'll chose me being a slave. Why? cause I have morals unlike you killers.
elementaldragon244 2 weeks ago
@elementaldragon244
Look, asswipe, don't be mad at me just because I'm way smarter than you.
Being pro forced birth is evil and it means you want women to be slaves and die. Again, if you can't understand that, it's because of YOUR stupidity and evilness.
I bet your mother is ashamed to call you her son.
TFYFWYA 2 weeks ago
@TFYFWYA YOU SMARTER THAN ME? I AM A WOMAN YOU DOUCHE! I WOULDN'T KILL MY CHILDREN EVEN IF IT COST ME MY LIFE. JOKES ON YOU IDIOT.
elementaldragon244 2 weeks ago
@elementaldragon244
Even if you weren't lying about being a woman (and you are) I'd still be smarter than you because I am a woman who believes in my own freedom whereas you would be a woman who wants to be a second class citizen. Chew on that, monkeyboy.
TFYFWYA 2 weeks ago
@TFYFWYA You are not smart in fact very stupid. How dare you call yourself a feminist. You are the last class BITCH to say something like this. I enjoy my freedom as anyone else here and just because I am pro-life it does not mean that I am a slave to a man. That is DISPICABLE. I never had a man nor a father. I am me and I choose to be me. And for that I, being a woman, am the first class citizen using my own right of free speech. I have freedom and this is the way I want to live it. Shove it!
elementaldragon244 2 weeks ago
@elementaldragon244
You don't even have a basic grasp of grammar, yet you want to proclaim that you are smarter than me.
I'm not sure you realize just how over your head you are with me, kiddie. I've forgotten more about social justice than your 17 year old ass will ever know.
TFYFWYA 2 weeks ago
@TFYFWYA I never said I was smarter than you but you act dumb. You don't even know how old I am so why are you so judgemental about people. A little quote of advise for you: "Those who claim to be smarter than someone else is a fool." The only person you are hurting here is yourself. Your Blasphemy and hypocrisy are only words that enter one ear and exits out the other and never attaches the message to the brain of the recipient. And I am not being smart, but honest.
elementaldragon244 2 weeks ago
@elementaldragon244
Are you fucking brain damaged? You can't even keep track of what YOU YOURSELF JUST SAID, how the FUCK do you think you're going to make a point about anything?
Also, your quote is grammatically incorrect.
From your reaction, I'm betting that I got the age spot on.
You should go to bed now. You have school tomorrow kiddie.
TFYFWYA 2 weeks ago
@TFYFWYA Let me see, No, my brain is fine. But you might want to check yours. I am a lot older than you think and school is way behind me. So far you got my sex and age wrong and I can tell that you think that I am some type of misogynists. Well, you got that wrong too. Pro-life does not automatically prove that you chose to be a misogynist. Thats some BS you concluded on. Why don't do your occupation that is mentioned on your profile and stop harassing people you don't even know, kiddo.
elementaldragon244 2 weeks ago
@elementaldragon244
Your mom said it's 3 hours past your bedtime. Get in bed NOW or I think you're going to get a spanking.
PS- Being pro forced birth IS INDEED misogynist, whether you admit it or not.
TFYFWYA 2 weeks ago
@TFYFWYA What's the matter? Can't sleep? My Mama, living thousands of miles away, praises me for taking care of people like you, even if it is past my bedtime. Why don't you go back to school and take a class in sociology of sexuality and also take a class in human anatomy, psychology, and communication. Maybe you'll be smart enough to comment me back something worth talking about. Go to bed sweetheart, your body tires you and your way of thinking strait.
elementaldragon244 2 weeks ago
@elementaldragon244
I could have talked circles around you when I was 12. You can hardly form sentences and have a grasp of grammar that is tenuous at best. Again, you are way over your head here.
TFYFWYA 2 weeks ago
@TFYFWYA Look who's talking big. At least I don't jump to conclusions like you do OR look extremely stupid if front of millions of people. Let me remind you again, you put yourself in my circle thus challenging me in a controversial debate. If you think I would change my mind in order to think like you, well you are wrong. I know how you think and like you I have been down that road and that road leads you to despair. Think about it before you loose yourself indefinitely.
elementaldragon244 2 weeks ago
@elementaldragon244
haahhaha....see this is why you are so fucking stupid and evil. THIS IS NOT A DEBATE. I OWN MY BODY AND I WILL NOT DEBATE THAT.
you really thought you were debating, didn't you? That's so funny, monkeyboy.
TFYFWYA 2 weeks ago
@TFYFWYA So your body is in your control. While you're choosing how to take care of it, why don't you rip out your heart? Cause you don't need one. Yes, you are debating me because you are telling me off on my beliefs and I am doing the same to yours. I am not evil here, YOU ARE! You are selfish and self-absorbed. Disgrace to humanity.
elementaldragon244 2 weeks ago
@elementaldragon244 sigh. that video doesn't say anything that hasn't been spewed a million times. it is off the mark in about a thousand ways. what she says is not stipulated, contains straw man arguing, and doesn't address everything that the issue entails. it is the same nonsense said for the millionth time. it isn't a human being, but it wouldn't matter if it was. and "innocent" is pointless only said to evoke emotion. does someone think it is guilty of arson or something?
slyjokerg 1 month ago
@Mirewood I was being honest with you. I don't know my future plans when it comes to murder but I will write this, Abortion is murder. And thats something I do not plan to do. Have fun with your sexual pleasures and diseases. You Pro-Abortion Humans are worse than animals. In Fact, you are the world's Abomination. Nothing but mere cockroaches. Don't bother replying.
elementaldragon244 2 months ago
@Mirewood I have not killed anyone yet. God knows where I'm going. But I say this, Any commandments broken by man is rejection to God, Rejection = Hell.
elementaldragon244 2 months ago
@Mirewood I may or may not end up in hell but I'll watch ya from my cable channel. HE HE HE!
elementaldragon244 2 months ago
Pro Lifers are nothing but of Bastards
HowardSternn 2 months ago
@HowardSternn Oke why????????
freewilllover 2 months ago
it is comical that these buffoons intentionally try to cause a disturbance, and then whine to the cops. please. grow up.
slyjokerg 2 months ago
Every living being deserves a life. People who get abortion are selfish and ignorent who have just signed a contract with the devil. SEE YA IN HELL MURDERERS!
elementaldragon244 4 months ago
@elementaldragon244 LOLOLOLOLOL at you calling people "ignorent". LOLOLOLOL. classic. learn to spell, genius.
slyjokerg 2 months ago
Kids can't get into a R rated movie but can walk down the street and see their disgusting signs. I am pro choice but I would never have an abortion myself. These idiots are exploiting dead babies/ featus. How are they any better than the people getting the abortions.
hatchetface5366 6 months ago
@hatchetface5366 there is nothing inherently wrong with someone simply because she chooses to have an abortion. i am glad, however, to know that you would not try to impose your personal choice on someone else... that is the issue.
slyjokerg 2 months ago
Shooot Pro-Lifers
HowardSternn 8 months ago
@HowardSternn condemn all pro-abortionists. Don't bother replying.
elementaldragon244 2 months ago
As much as pro-life tries to do the right thing, they don't. They need to adopt and take care of kids that were had by parents who chose not to abort. Needless to say, there are unwanted children in this world. (BTW, adopt in USA, because it's easier to get a kid overseas than our own country.)
ksniveegirl 8 months ago
I think every child they save from being aborted should be sent to there house for them to raise and take care of. They should be responsible for the children.
bellareina05 9 months ago 12
@bellareina05 as opposed to the sluts that fucked around w/o a condom....your right that makes perfect sense, its totally someone elses problem.
Jwild628 9 months ago
@bellareina05 I think every slut that is to stupid noyt to get pregnant with an unwanted baby should be put to death.
That way there will be no chance for anymore unwanted babies or abortions.
Do away with the evil sluts that would murder their own offspring.
Problem solved!
And a better world without the evil sluts.
ekajeht 7 months ago
@ekajeht What about the men that got the women pregnant? What about the women who are raped? You obviously haven't thought very hard about this at all. That or you have some serious mommy issues that you may need to seek help for.
IamYou86 7 months ago
@IamYou86 lol
ekajeht 7 months ago
@bellareina05 we are not saying that these mothers must raise their children, they can be adopted and live with other families. they only deserve a chance to live.
florhh14 3 months ago
@florhh14 adoption is not an alternative to abortion. adoption is an alternative to keeping a born being and raising it. adoption does not end a pregnancy, nor prevent childbirth... so it isn't an alternative to abortion. and "they deserve a chance to live" is both an opined, subjective conclusion, and irrelevant to a woman's rights. even if it is stipulated, the woman is not a slave, and the organism's right to live is contingent upon the woman granting it the privilege to exist inside her.
slyjokerg 2 months ago
PRO LIFE FAGS
divdawgd 9 months ago
yay for abortion
emptywithoutbrain 10 months ago 5
PUNISH THE SLUTS!! IF THEY CHOOSE to have sex, they should be forced to live with the consequences. Otherwise how will they ever learn? They'll just keep on fornicating like rabbits without any PUNISHMENT!!
ForcedBirther 11 months ago
@ForcedBirther You are joking right? Women do not use abortion as birth control, they use it to avoid the suffering of an unborn baby without eyes, kidneys, lungs etc. and to avoid the extreme stress that it puts on entire families that drive some to suicide.
MikeyyPe 11 months ago
@ForcedBirther so if u get raped u wan the kid?? hell no its a choice, she has the choice, dnt force ur ideas into another thats wrong, pro-choice is what america was founded on. she has a freedom, she has the right, why the fuck do u come into her equation? this is exactly why we have sane ppl running things, so idiots who like to control ppl (like china) arnt caling shots, you communists scum
joshkilla67 10 months ago
@joshkilla67 Huh?
ForcedBirther 9 months ago
@ForcedBirther And this my friends, is your typical FOX news (hahaha) channel viewer, right winger, "Christian" bigot.
bigbigblue111 9 months ago
@bigbigblue111 No it's YOU that is the BIGGOT!
ForcedBirther 9 months ago
Pro life advocates are propaganda machines, cultivating hatred of abortion with deciet & lies. They foster public indifference as Hitler did w/ the Jews
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1
Public indifference to what?
What could be worse than setting serial killers on the loose, taking the back alley and putting it on Main Street in the form of Planned Barrenhood?
What's indifferent about trying to offer constructive solutions to life's problems instead of wantonly murdering children for the sake of personal convenience?
What's indifferent about refusing to be silent as the abortion industry continues to aid and abet sex slavery and human trafficking on a mass scale?
Velokid93 1 year ago 2
@Velokid93 says: Public indifference to what
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To what? Your reading comp indeed abysmal if you dont know that the words, "cultivating a hatred of abortion means indifference to....... ABORTION. If youre intending to play games with me, dont bother..I;ll be out of here. I dont have time for unintelligent BS.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1
Again, if you're saying indifference to to child-killing as an institution, I see no reason why my activism should cause people to suddenly lose interest in a controversial topic. If you're trying to assume "abortion" as part of "women's rights", then sure!
I'm all for exposing empty rhetoric, leaving the public to lose interest in your tried-and-failed fallacies--especially when that rhetoric is being used to protect serial killers and rapists from justice.
Velokid93 1 year ago
@Velokid93 says:-especially when that rhetoric is being used to protect serial killers
~~~~~~~~~~~ Your lies get you nowhere. If this was regarding serial l killers, our prisons would be full of the criminals..why aren tthey?
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1
Abortionist = Serial killer.
And yes, they belong in jail for their good and the good of others.
Velokid93 1 year ago
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@Velokid93 says:they belong in jail for their good and the good of others.
~~~~~~~~~~~~ Shame on you for wanting your once sweet, adored, and worshipped embryos imprisonsed...at what point do you stop caring about your embryos? Birth? LOLOLOL............ Sure it is. Thats fetal obsession..youre sick.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Velokid93 says: putting it on Main Street in the form of Planned Barrenhood?
~~~~~~~~~~ Planned Parenthood? Hmmmm, isnt it interesting that you say that when, in 2010 Planned parenthood preformed a mere 134,000 abortions! Who is doing the other 866,000? Silly child, its every small town doc in the counrty. Youre use of PP as the proverbial probirth bad guy, just made you look ignorant.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1
Small town docs?
I'm sorry, but the rest of them are actually done in NAF facilities, and the rest in hospitals by and large.
I'm pretty sure the Alan Guttmacher Institute stands behind me on that one.
Velokid93 1 year ago
@Velokid93 NAF
~~~~~~~~~~ I doubt the 400 NAF facitlites are more in number than Ob/ gyn's that are doing aboritons. AND, as long as they are being done legally & safely, who cares who's doing them?
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Velokid93 says: the rest in hospitals by and large.
~~~~~~~~~ Rarely is an abortion prefromed in a hospital.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1
Prove it.
Velokid93 1 year ago
@Velokid93 says: constructive solutions to life's problems instead of wantonly murdering children
~~~~~~~~~~~ The "difference " IS..that you will NEVER be able to tell a women what HER god damned "constructive solutions" will be in her own life. And your PROLIFE LIES saying abortion is murder, wont work either. If you want to redefine english words to suit you, fine, but dont be upset when better educated people make you look foolish...
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1
Define murder, enlighten this poor bastard.
Velokid93 1 year ago
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@Velokid93 says: Define murder, enlighten this poor bastard.
~~~~~~~~~ What? you mean you dont know the deifntion of murder, yet you are in here using the word as if you do? Ok, One more lessson for the probirther to lazy to look it up for himself. Murder is the illegal killing of a human bing. Abortion ISNT illegal, and a embryo isnt a human being. Si simple...how did y ou miss it..Or better yet, WHY did you?
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1
Murder=killing of a human being apart from any "due process of law"
According to your definition, slavery was legal, therefore it wasn't a violation of rights!
Jews were not considered persons under Hitler, and their maltreatment was perfectly legal, so that wasn't murder either!
I'm soooo ignorant...
Velokid93 1 year ago
@Velokid93 says: Murder=killing of a human being
~~~~~~~~~ Yep, and a fetus isnt a human being which equals NOT murder
Sueezee1 1 year ago
ekajeht 1 year ago
@ekajeht
this is getting old explaining this to religious zealots .... but Connors Law was enacted in Ca because the conceptus in this case was in the perinatal stage of development where the fetus is, in theory anyway, "viable" meaning it could likely survive in the extrauterine environment ......
perfectbark 11 months ago
@perfectbark So then you are saying you believe that abortion IS murder when done at say what 6 months ?
Really it doesn't matter when ,, You agree that an unborn being aborted is murder.
So how can you defend abortion?
ekajeht 11 months ago
@ekajeht
the law prescribes the gestational ages where medical abortion is performed and you know this. Late term abortions are rare by any standard. What the hell is the matter with you anyway besides having a bible stuck up your illiterate rectum?
perfectbark 11 months ago
@perfectbark
Rare?
Meaning 10%-type-of-rare?
Velokid93 11 months ago
@Velokid93
more like 6.5% so that children who get raped by a family member have a chance at life themselves. This is why states have places restrictions on abortion practices. duh
perfectbark 11 months ago
@perfectbark says=" late term abortions are rare..."
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"RARE" but still legal , and still performed.
And thanks to obama even a baby born alive during a late term abortion is allowed to die on it's own outside the womb!
So if you think late term abortions are murder ,,,, when do - you - consider it to late in the pregnancy to murder the baby aka=fetus?
ekajeht 11 months ago
@ekajeht
Consider cases of say pre-eclampsia which can occur in up to 10% of pregnancies commencing somewhere around week 20 gestational age and becoming fatal by week 32. There are high rates of mortality in both the conceptus and the mother.
For those of use who have women that they love. sisters, daughters, mothers, friends, we are thankful that medical abortion is safe and available and that we don't have to lose them due to the practice of antediluvian myths.
perfectbark 11 months ago
@Velokid93 says: According to your definition, slavery was legal, therefore it wasn't a violation of rights!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ hahahahahah it WASNT a violation of rights because slaves had NO rights to violate and it WAS legal. What school did you you go to??:<LMFAO
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1
So you wouldn't oppose in principle a return to slavery or involuntary servitude of an entire race?
Velokid93 11 months ago
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@Velokid93 says: So you wouldn't oppose in principle a return to slavery or involuntary servitude of an entire race?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ yes, why? So frickin eager to hear this senerio!! . (smile)
Sueezee1 11 months ago
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@Velokid93 says , and their maltreatment was perfectly legal, so that wasn't murder either!
~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hahahahah NO it wasnt!!! ... how in the hell can it be MUDRER , which is an ILLEGAL killing...when it was LEGAL... God, i love showing the dumbness prolifers.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Velokid93 sayssays im sooo ignorant
~~~~~~~~~~~ YES...and I just proved it. Thanks for the opportunity. It s what I live for.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
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@Velokid93 says:Murder=killing of a human being apart from any "due process of law"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ How can there be due process if there is no frickin crime (murder) committed???? PLEASE, tell me youre 12 yrs old so I can leave you alone and not get angry that youre an ignorant adult. PLEASE!!
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Velokid93
Call abortion wrong or say you disagree with the law, but when you call it murder, you make crazy people feel entitled to pick up a gun.
If you want to participate in domestic terrorism and incite the more unstable individuals among you to murder living, breathing members of society then continue to use and participate in hyperbolic rhetoric.
perfectbark 1 year ago
@perfectbark
You can point fingers, whine and call an opposing position "hyperbole" all you want, but the fact remains that less than a dozen deaths have resulted from individuals turning to vigilantism in hopes of "saving children".
Pro-aborts, on the other hand, seem to have an extraordinarily difficult time being non-violent, and while I or others who are pro-life may attribute that fact to the pro-abortion ideology, I'd simply like to ask, why?
ProChoiceViolence(dot)com
AMDG
Velokid93 1 year ago
@Velokid93
the fact remains that you and other religious zealots have blood on your hands for inciting the unstable nuts among your religious cause to murder living, breathing members of society. The statistics DO NOT support your assertions .... religion is your problem since it has a long history of violence . Just look at the KKK and AOG and other southern militant anti-choice groups. guns, god, embryos, gay marriage ... same loonies
perfectbark 1 year ago
@perfectbark
Between all the atheist totalitarian regimes of the 20th century and those of the present day, as well as such happenings as the French Revolution, atheists and anti-theists have killed many more people over religion than religious folk have.
Velokid93 1 year ago
@Velokid93
uh huh .... but in case you haven't checked lately this is the 21st century. Perhaps it's time to recognize the failures of religion and rabid reactionary conservatism and get some level of education for the love of mike....
perfectbark 11 months ago
@perfectbark I fail to see what your problem with religion is (apart from the menace of people believing in objective truth).
How does the 21st century of Christ have anything to do with the fact that anti-religious folks like yourself have foisted off a society on the world, which seeks to suppress freedom?
Thanks to you and your kind, we in the majority of the First World are witnessing societal meltdowns and even race-suicide on an alarming scale.
Velokid93 11 months ago
@Velokid93
You're religion, and others .... have brought unmeasurable suffering to humanity. Thanks to your kind we have Fox news, televangelist charlatans bilking money from old ladies, lunatics flying airplanes into buildings, children being trained to blow themselves up in crowded market places, children molested and abused by christian clerics, doctors being murdered in the name of a myth ... and that's just in this decade.
perfectbark 11 months ago
@perfectbark
Point-by-point:
-Fox news: Yeah, I don't like 'em either (With their fake "conservative/libertarian" ghetto). In fact, I can't stand the hypocrites on talk radio as well, so we agree on this point.
-Televangelists: Agreed again, nothing more to say here.
-Lunatics in airplanes/suicide children bombers: since when was one of these a Christian?
Velokid93 11 months ago
@perfectbark
-Sexual abuse by Christian clerics: I'm surprised you cite this since almost ALL of these clerics had ideologies similar to your's and were, in many cases, simply using religion as a business--definitely not the first time such a thing has been done. But what about the precious government-run school system, which has astronomically higher incidences of child molestation, and 0% of the bad publicity?
Velokid93 11 months ago
@perfectbark
-Doctors being murdered: Again, a dozen abortions/assistants have died in four decades....
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MORE HAIR-DRESSERS ARE KILLED IN JOB-RELATED HOMICIDES PER YEAR THAN THAT!!!
Compare that with the 1100+ documented murders by pro-aborts, and ,well, I think you get the picture.
prochoiceviolence(dot)com
Velokid93 11 months ago
@perfectbark
Add to that the fact that our elite, anti-religious ruling classes seem hell-bent on subjugating the Third World and bringing them down along with us.
I can have no respect for a position which has, without exception, brought misery and chaos in its wake EVERY TIME it has been experimented with, in one form or another.
AMDG
Velokid93 11 months ago
@Velokid93
wrong, see the documentary Jesus Camp here on youtube ..... you're probably in it. But the fact is that these antediluvian beliefs lead to the subjugation of women. Erudition is the solution, beginning with you a male religious extremist.
perfectbark 11 months ago
@perfectbark
Wow.
Your impeccable, unbiased, historically accurate information AMAZES me!
I never knew such wisdom to be found in a doctored film!
*rolls eyes*.
I think citing something as laughable as that disqualifies you from discussion on religion altogether, or from any debate for that matter.
Hell, if you weren't atheist, I'd expect you to start quoting the Book of Mormon--complete with all the archeological basis of accuracy to be found therein....
Velokid93 11 months ago
@perfectbark
And then again, how about my close friends at Secular Pro-Life, or the Atheist and Agnostic Pro-Life League, or Feminists For Life, or The Pro-Life Alliance of Gays and Lesbians?
Do they too qualify as "religious zealots"?
Velokid93 11 months ago
@Velokid93 no their not zealots, their just fucking stupid. There were women against woman's rights regarding property and voting rights as well, but that doesn't make them "right" just because they were women instead of men.
Volf99 11 months ago
@Velokid93
we live in a world where 1 billion people live on $1 or less a day and don't have access to sanitary water for bathing or drinking. More than 70 per cent of almost 11 million child deaths every year are attributable to six causes: diarrhoea, malaria, neonatal infection, pneumonia, preterm delivery, or lack of oxygen at birth. Malnutrition and the lack of safe water and sanitation contribute to half of all children’s deaths.
source: UNICEF ........ and it ain't gonna get mo better
perfectbark 11 months ago
@perfectbark
Correct.
And those problems are largely the product of politicians or anti-religious ideologues.
Velokid93 11 months ago
and by "elite" do you mean those of us who went to college and graduated in 4 years?
perfectbark 11 months ago
@perfectbark
Nope, just the folks who dupe those yuppie graduates!
By talking down to me do you mean to imply that college students are unable to have honest opinions?
Velokid93 11 months ago
Thanks to the efforts of brave men and women, "those twin relics of barbarism, slavery and polygamy" were done away with in America. Now, two other barbaric practices (wayyyy more perverse than the first two), those of abortion/infanticide and homosexuality, are being heralded as somehow "enlightened".
Velokid93 1 year ago
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Velokid93 1 year ago
@Velokid93
Roeder is a nobody, like Loughner, an angry, illiterate, undereducated lone gunman, a sociopathic associate of Operation Rescue. Close friends??? .... I don't think so ..... either way. R v W is settled law after almost 40 years. The days of the aseptic back room abortion are well in the past now in spite of activism by loonies that equate abortion with murder. No matter how you parse the issue .... violence and domestic terrorism are not the answer.
good luck
perfectbark 11 months ago
@perfectbark
Since when do courts make law, oh great one?
Hmm, one would think that Dred Scott is settled law by your logic...
Velokid93 11 months ago
@Velokid93
Scott v sanford is a non sequitur.
courts interpret and apply the law where case law is the result. Roe v Wade is settled law as hundreds of cases have been presented that challenged it over much of it's almost 40 year history ..... learn to live with it.
perfectbark 11 months ago
and you incite sociopaths into committing murder ... that is, killing living, breathing members of society, by the use of rhetoric and emotive language that incites unstable nuts into violent acts. By extension you also have blood on your hands in the murder of those of us living lawfully and peacefully ..... religion is at fault here, and there will never be peace in this world until religion in all of its incarnations becomes extinct, as all religions eventually do ....
perfectbark 11 months ago
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@Velokid93 says: hat's indifferent about refusing to be silent as the abortion industry continues to aid and abet sex slavery and human trafficking on a mass scale?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ hahahahaha, you clearly fall too short in your capacity for principle-level and abstract thinking to debate this matter
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1
Saul Alinsky always praised the value of ridicule--and rightly so. I don't happen to be quite as adept at Ad Hominem attacks as you are, so I'll pass, but as far as I know, that's a logical fallacy anyway.
Velokid93 1 year ago
@Velokid93
Call abortion wrong or say you disagree with the law, but when you call it murder, you make crazy people feel entitled to pick up a gun.
If you want to participate in domestic terrorism and incite the more unstable individuals among you to murder living, breathing members of society then continue to use and participate in hyperbolic rhetoric.
perfectbark 11 months ago
@Velokid93
and it's interesting that you are silent when it comes to the crimes against humanity committed by the religion industry over the millennia. save the embryo, molest, abuse, neglect the living breathing child.
perfectbark 11 months ago
@perfectbark
Quite so--and even MORE interesting to note that 99% of those creeps got there thanks to a well-organized liberal push to place ideological brethren in positions of power for them to abuse within Christianity.
Velokid93 11 months ago
@Velokid93
Well, as you folks continue to be exposed due to your own errant behaviors and greed, expect that your numbers will continue to decline. Then again, you always can count on the religion industry to invent novel ways to exploit the illiterate, the desperate, the uneducated and the stupid.
perfectbark 11 months ago
Those photos are not pictures of an abortion. Those are pictures of a full term stillborn baby what was beginning to putrefy in the womb.
These pictures are a hostile egregious LIE.
MaryRoseLaughing 1 year ago
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KUHNER: The fetal solution- The Washington Times
Exposing what takes place in facilities run by the likes of Dr. Gosnell would shock voters into taking decisive action to make abortion illegal. This is why the killing of innocent unborn children is done largely away from public view. It is a creeping, hidden genocide that can continue only if the fiction of abortion being a "medical procedure" is maintained
teton99 1 year ago
bitch is flat.
codycravescookies 1 year ago
What's so wrong with it? Did you know people KILL people who are going to get abortions? wadda fack?
raptorinator 1 year ago
people who are full of themseves are ridiculously hilarious
EzbieandFred 1 year ago
i certainly don't agree with these peoples views however they conducted them selfs wonderfully. If only all people in protest for one thing or another could conduct them selfs in such a manor.
Terr0c1ty 1 year ago
i hope she shaves i do her
powergnome35 1 year ago
Why is he so arrogant? If he feels he should be informed of any laws or ordinances he's violating before being persecuted, you'd think he would do a little research before acting.
I'm against abortion, but show a little common sense, and do something productive with the passion for your cause, don't just occupy space and give it a bad reputation.
VerusPuto 1 year ago
@VerusPuto
The police have to inform you of the violation, they just cant tell you to do something because he feels like it. As in the second case where he informed the guy they were blocking an entrance.
stevenp25100 1 year ago
Man that chick is annoying....too bad her mom didn't abort her. Of course she doesn't believe in abortion why should she? I doubt any man would want to fuck her.
22meshugat 1 year ago
people don't have a heart nor a concience to allow babies to get killed its sickening!!!! abosolutely sick! if you can abort you can kill a person might as well....... same thing lol
kendraking10 1 year ago
these people are annoying and rude, they need to get lost. people hate them in hagerstown, but they still stand there.. fuck um
trinity777b 1 year ago
Look at the smug grin on that creepy fuck's face, scary D:
daisyfuck 2 years ago
@daisyfuck
agreed. looks like he has a "well im not breaking the law so you cant do anything about it." attitude. ive driven past abortion protests in hagerstown a few times where the protesters were either standing in the street parking spaces or even further out into the street. the officer should have dropped that guy like in the video taken infront of duffy's.
666colorvision666 2 years ago
Park that nasty picture in front of my house and I would get pissed too!
turnertalking 3 years ago
My dad says you can charge them with public mischef. :/ I think thats it though. :/ <3 (Besides blocking entrances.)
Doctorwithnoname222 2 years ago
Disgust and fear are not intelligent ways to win a debate.
LifeinaRaindrop 3 years ago
Please see above:
celticgettysburg01 3 years ago
Hagerstown, MD Abortion Protest Video Didn't a bloody battle 145 years ago in a cornfield nearby teach folks anything?? It breaks my heart that the righteous citizens of Hagerstown would permit, with legal sanction, the wholesale slaughter of its littlest, voiceless and defenseless citizens. Again, haven't we learned ANYTHING?!?
celticgettysburg01 3 years ago