Is this lap steel similiar to the most recently available Fender lap steel? Looks like a reissue but I've just started spotting them on Amazon and whatnot.
I've played the guitar since i was about 12 years old, and i'm 30 now. I'm beginning to like the country/rock style a lot more. My question (to anyone who would like to answer) Is it difficult to learn how to play the lap steel guitar?
Yet again, superb playing. But I was curious: in looking at lapsteels of late, I've noticed there would appear to be 2 general types available: the pretty cheap, entry level ones (Eastwood, SX, Rogue, Recording King, Gretsch) with many reported issues, and 2) the very expensive ones, with precious little in between. (I was looking at the Eastwood, but I just don't know). Do you have any recommendations for a good, solid, entry level lap steel- one that might not frustrate in terms of quality?
@hammill444 This is a good question... I have not tried too many of the newer entry level lap steel models. The one I am playing is a 1955 Fender that I really like a lot. I'd say that if you are serious about playing the lap steel then I would spend the extra money and get a good one so the frustration is kept to a minimum and you can focus on playing. Please let me know which model you buy..!! -Billy
@hokiangasinger Yeah...it's a fun instrument. My biggest challenge is playing in tune and that is dependent on having a good ear to begin with and being able to hear yourself clearly on gigs so you can play in tune. Honky Tonkin"..!!! -Billy
@hokiangasinger I have seen these 50s Fender Champ lap steels selling in the $750 range...if it is all original....it's worth it. Trust me...!!! -Billy
Awesome, Billy...you just gave me a kick in the butt to learn! Long ago my Grandma gave me an old Dickerson lap steel with a bunch of Hawaiian song books I can dig into. Wish I learned to play it when she was still alive. Looking forward to having some fun adding a new weapon to my backline at gigs (I play mostly blues-rock but would like to learn the old country style)
Great job! I liked that smooth little finger bend you did at around 1:03 - very faux pedal steel. This is probably one of the best sounding 6 string lap steel demos I have heard on youtube. I gotta get to practicing on this stuff. Thanks for sharing.
I had one of these at one time, which was given to me by my uncle, who is my mother's oldest brother. About 20 plus years ago, it got destroyed in a mobile home fire. I had the case that came with it as well. I was torn apart to lose it that way. It has a bite to the sound when it is played. My Artisan lap steel does not compare to this one.
Thanks for this! I want to learn lap steel in this style to begin with. What is the tuning called, I might have missed it in the video. Also, is there a name for what you did with the volume knob? I hear that a lot and always wondered how they did it. Thanks so much for the video, its just what I was looking for!
@pitol678 Glad I could help..!! I do not know of a specific tuning name for this. The thing I did with the volume control is called a "volume swell". You can do similar effects with the tone control as well. Hit me up if you have more questions..!! -Billy
@mustanglp50 You can tune a regular guitar to an open tuning and play it with a slide in your lap. You may not be able to tune it as high as a lap steel because the string length is longer. Please feel free to ask more questions.. -Billy
Hey, I just got a Supro 6 string from the 50s or 60s (not sure) and Im trying to restring it and I cant get the bottom of the string to stay in the little triangular holes that theyre supposed to catch on. Is there a method to restringing these? I cant find anything on line ANYWHERE that shows you how to do this?
@gilcmic I would try to make a 45 degree angle bend right where the ball end is. There are two parts of the string that go around the ball and looks like a Y or a V.....that's where you make that bend. This will help the strings grip in the little triangular holes. Let me know how it goes. -Billy
@300guitars Hey billy, thanks for the reply. I went ahead and took care of the stringing and I will keep your method in mind for next time! Thanks again!
I know what you are asking,dont think you can buy sets for certain tunings,you need to figure out what tuning you want to use and tell the clerk at the music store , he will then pick out individual string guages for that tuning.your best bet is to go to a pedal steel guitar shop and discuss it with the clerk.good luck bud.
I know what you are saying,no you dont buy strings for specific tuning,same strings for most or all tunings,best bet is to go to a pedal steel guitar shop and explain what you have and what tuning you want to use and the clerk will pick out individual strings,reg music store not a good idea because they dont normally deal with this specific type of instrument.good luck.
I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. I'didn't mean the brand of string. Is there a certain string set in a certain key that one buys in order to tune like you have ( I use gbdgbd and buy strings made for that tuning). What should I ask for for your tuning? Thanks.
can you take a normal guitar, say, a fender strat, tune it and use it like a lap steel? I've never actually seen a lap steel in real life before so I don't know how similar they are and if this would be possible
Billy thanks for the tuning. I have been trying to learn a Wrinkle neck Mules song in a C-6 and something was just not quite right. I totally just nailed it in this tuning.
Billy thanks for this tuning. I have been trying to figure out a Wrinkle neck Mules song in a C-6 and something was just not quite right.. I just totally nailed it with this tuning!
Does it have a nasal sound or a sweet sound? What is your opinion? From youtube it is heard to understand the exact sound.
I am looking for a lap steel that sounds sweet. Some of the ones I saw has a nasal sound, the kind of that you hear when someone is trying to sing through his/her nose.
Sounds like a good tuning. How does this tuning differ from CEGACE? I'm new to lapsteel and I understand, I think, that CEGACE are the middle 6 strings from a country 8-string tuning, but your tuning somehow sounds more like that ol' time country lapsteel sound.
Was that an open tuning you did? I wasn't sure if you were using your fingure to point to the strings or what. Sounds good tho, i've been trying to get that old time country sound out of my lap steel... can't wait to try this tuning out.
I'll give you $60.00, and that's cash! Just kidding. I would think that if it is all original and good condish like you say then $500-$600 would be my guess. I am not a dealer, just a player and enthusiast. Jim at Hoboken Vintage could tell you better. Google them on the web.
i'm selling my 55 fender lap steel with original case. any idea what it's worth. it's in very good condition and doesn't even buzz i just don't know what to sell it for
i just got a 40s or 50s 6 string fender lap. what is a good guage if i want to stay with regular guitar tuning until i get better at it i don't understand the a9 or c6 difference. since i've never played one and could i use regular thick guage guitar round wound strings on it?
.012-.054 guage strings. DR Nickel roundwound. Yeah, Hank Williams and all those guys. Check out Cindy Cashdollar. She is awesome. She plays with Redd Volkaert alot and they both compliment each other very well.
No, these are open strings. Just tune the strings open and you are on your way. That sounds like a really cool guitar! If you can take a photo and send it to me. I will put it in the Guitar Gallery. Have fun!!!!!
Hi Billy, In the video, when you tune, did you fret with the tone bar for each string at the nut? or do you tune each string A E fs A bs E all open. I don't know how to tune no less play any instrument, but I desire to learn now, as I recently acquired a six string 1955/57 WHITE made by Fender, what a beauty, and it still has it's original three adjustable legs and hard case.
oh, I'm sorry, I meant the white lap steel, from AveLguy ! haha, yes, the Fenders from the 50ties are killer, I had a champ from 1656, but the fool I am, I sold it....
Awesome! I just started playing the lap steel, and your video is very short but VERY informative! This is the first video I've found that doesn't lean more towards Hawaiian or New Grass, which is great because the only reason I picked the instrument up was to play Hank and Patsy. Now I have a good tuning and a couple of licks to build on. Thanks very much!
Thank you. Kenny Aaronson (bass player for many artists such as Billy Idol, Joan Jett and Bob Dylan) gave me this tuning a bunch of years ago and never really gave it much thought about being Eb. You can adapt it to E obviously by raising each string by a half step. I hope the tuning is useful to you. It is a cool sound for sure!
For this video demo I used my 1966 Fender Vibro Champ. It is factory stock, no mods. When I use the lap steel out on a gig I use my 5F6-A 4x10 Bassman clone I built. It rips!!!!
That was a really well done vid! I've got an old 60's Gretsch lap steel that my brother gave me which a neighbor gave him rather than throw it away(!!!) The classic story of "dad bought it new, never learned to play, chucked it in the closet and now he's dead". Anyway, never knew how to tune it and stumbled on your video while trying to find out more about it. I've played six string for years so now that I know how to tune it... LOOK OUT! Thanks much for the lesson!
cool!!
idealoser 4 months ago
great tuning, i use it all the time.
Mojorail1966 5 months ago
Is this lap steel similiar to the most recently available Fender lap steel? Looks like a reissue but I've just started spotting them on Amazon and whatnot.
TheLwaddict 7 months ago
You are awesome!
jessicaaasaunders 8 months ago
Billy, what tuning do you have on that giutar? Oops, I hear you now. I didn't have the volumn up. :)
reckonimokie 8 months ago
I've played the guitar since i was about 12 years old, and i'm 30 now. I'm beginning to like the country/rock style a lot more. My question (to anyone who would like to answer) Is it difficult to learn how to play the lap steel guitar?
AlwinVeldhuizen 9 months ago
Great playing. Been a lng whiles since I ran across an electric lap steel.
fngrpkn06 10 months ago
Yet again, superb playing. But I was curious: in looking at lapsteels of late, I've noticed there would appear to be 2 general types available: the pretty cheap, entry level ones (Eastwood, SX, Rogue, Recording King, Gretsch) with many reported issues, and 2) the very expensive ones, with precious little in between. (I was looking at the Eastwood, but I just don't know). Do you have any recommendations for a good, solid, entry level lap steel- one that might not frustrate in terms of quality?
hammill444 1 year ago
@hammill444 This is a good question... I have not tried too many of the newer entry level lap steel models. The one I am playing is a 1955 Fender that I really like a lot. I'd say that if you are serious about playing the lap steel then I would spend the extra money and get a good one so the frustration is kept to a minimum and you can focus on playing. Please let me know which model you buy..!! -Billy
300guitars 1 year ago
Nice!
lighteningboy 1 year ago
@lighteningboy Thank you..!! -Billy
300guitars 1 year ago
Thanks so much for your advice. I am really looking forward to learning the steel
hokiangasinger 1 year ago
@hokiangasinger Yeah...it's a fun instrument. My biggest challenge is playing in tune and that is dependent on having a good ear to begin with and being able to hear yourself clearly on gigs so you can play in tune. Honky Tonkin"..!!! -Billy
300guitars 1 year ago
I am thinking of buying one of these- how much do you think I should offer for it?
hokiangasinger 1 year ago
@hokiangasinger I have seen these 50s Fender Champ lap steels selling in the $750 range...if it is all original....it's worth it. Trust me...!!! -Billy
300guitars 1 year ago
Wow I gotta try that - nice job. WIll check out your website , too.
upst8 1 year ago
@upst8 Thank you...feel free to hit me up any time..!!! -Billy
300guitars 1 year ago
Billy - Great stuff. I just started playing the lap steel and would love to know what string set you use to achieve the tuning. Thanks.
ralphcz1 1 year ago
@ralphcz1 I am using DR Nickel Blues .011 gauge...you could probably use .012's too. Thanks!! -Billy
300guitars 1 year ago
Is that A9? What is the name of that tuning?
vantagestudios 1 year ago
@vantagestudios I honestly do not know what the name of the tuning is... I just like it and have been using it for a number of years. -Billy
300guitars 1 year ago
you look like a very tiny man, but you play good
horbergaren 1 year ago
Awesome, Billy...you just gave me a kick in the butt to learn! Long ago my Grandma gave me an old Dickerson lap steel with a bunch of Hawaiian song books I can dig into. Wish I learned to play it when she was still alive. Looking forward to having some fun adding a new weapon to my backline at gigs (I play mostly blues-rock but would like to learn the old country style)
tommyguitar63 1 year ago
@tommyguitar63 Sounds great..!!!! Let me know if I can answer any questions for you..!! -Billy
300guitars 1 year ago
Great job! I liked that smooth little finger bend you did at around 1:03 - very faux pedal steel. This is probably one of the best sounding 6 string lap steel demos I have heard on youtube. I gotta get to practicing on this stuff. Thanks for sharing.
glimmertwin1977 1 year ago
@glimmertwin1977 Thanks..!! I love playing my lap steel. Always feel free to contact me with any questions..!! -Billy
300guitars 1 year ago
I had one of these at one time, which was given to me by my uncle, who is my mother's oldest brother. About 20 plus years ago, it got destroyed in a mobile home fire. I had the case that came with it as well. I was torn apart to lose it that way. It has a bite to the sound when it is played. My Artisan lap steel does not compare to this one.
garywayne1966 1 year ago
Thanks for this! I want to learn lap steel in this style to begin with. What is the tuning called, I might have missed it in the video. Also, is there a name for what you did with the volume knob? I hear that a lot and always wondered how they did it. Thanks so much for the video, its just what I was looking for!
pitol678 1 year ago
@pitol678 Glad I could help..!! I do not know of a specific tuning name for this. The thing I did with the volume control is called a "volume swell". You can do similar effects with the tone control as well. Hit me up if you have more questions..!! -Billy
300guitars 1 year ago
dumb question, but can you play lap steel on a normal guitar w/out causing any damage to it?
mustanglp50 1 year ago
@mustanglp50 You can tune a regular guitar to an open tuning and play it with a slide in your lap. You may not be able to tune it as high as a lap steel because the string length is longer. Please feel free to ask more questions.. -Billy
300guitars 1 year ago
awesome tunning !!
johnnylash 1 year ago
Hey, I just got a Supro 6 string from the 50s or 60s (not sure) and Im trying to restring it and I cant get the bottom of the string to stay in the little triangular holes that theyre supposed to catch on. Is there a method to restringing these? I cant find anything on line ANYWHERE that shows you how to do this?
gilcmic 1 year ago
@gilcmic I would try to make a 45 degree angle bend right where the ball end is. There are two parts of the string that go around the ball and looks like a Y or a V.....that's where you make that bend. This will help the strings grip in the little triangular holes. Let me know how it goes. -Billy
300guitars 1 year ago
@300guitars Hey billy, thanks for the reply. I went ahead and took care of the stringing and I will keep your method in mind for next time! Thanks again!
gilcmic 1 year ago
sexy
redfacedpresident2 1 year ago
Thanks!!!
300guitars 1 year ago
Great video... could you post another video showing some other lap steel tunings?
LanceCampeau 2 years ago
this is what I was looking for!!! THANK YOU!
psidhrian 2 years ago
You're welcome!! Enjoy the tuning!! -Billy
300guitars 2 years ago
great tuning, thanks for posting the guage...awesome!
hannababalon 2 years ago 2
This sounds proper gwan man proper gwan
APenisWithLegs 2 years ago
Sounds great!
I'd love to see you play some more lap steel.
Funkbone 2 years ago
yeah buddy!
teeteeboi 2 years ago
billy any way you can tab that !!!!!
ripperx6x6x 2 years ago
great playing, that sounds fantastic.
actron 2 years ago
Jordan Ruddess, keyboardist of Dream Theater it plays a similar
lorenzocard 2 years ago
Yeah, it's not specifically for tunings. It goes by guages. I find that the .012-.054 works for me. Try it and have fun!!!!!!!
300guitars 2 years ago
in order to use your tuning does one buy strings for A6 tuning? E7th, E13th? does it matter? please respond.
bradubow 2 years ago
Please refer to the multiple posts above. DR Nickel Blues Strings .012-.054 roundwound.
300guitars 2 years ago
I know what you are asking,dont think you can buy sets for certain tunings,you need to figure out what tuning you want to use and tell the clerk at the music store , he will then pick out individual string guages for that tuning.your best bet is to go to a pedal steel guitar shop and discuss it with the clerk.good luck bud.
JodySuchard 2 years ago
I know what you are saying,no you dont buy strings for specific tuning,same strings for most or all tunings,best bet is to go to a pedal steel guitar shop and explain what you have and what tuning you want to use and the clerk will pick out individual strings,reg music store not a good idea because they dont normally deal with this specific type of instrument.good luck.
JodySuchard 2 years ago
I'm trying to find out how to duplicate your tuning. what string tuning do you buy
A6? C6?
bradubow 2 years ago
I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. I'didn't mean the brand of string. Is there a certain string set in a certain key that one buys in order to tune like you have ( I use gbdgbd and buy strings made for that tuning). What should I ask for for your tuning? Thanks.
bradubow 2 years ago
.012-.054 guage strings. DR Nickel roundwound. Any brand but I am using this guage.
300guitars 2 years ago
what strings do you buy for that tuning?
bradubow 2 years ago
I have been buying the DR Strings Nickel Blues sets lately. The sound great for the lapsteel as well as my regular guitars.
300guitars 2 years ago
can you take a normal guitar, say, a fender strat, tune it and use it like a lap steel? I've never actually seen a lap steel in real life before so I don't know how similar they are and if this would be possible
snookfook 2 years ago
You can use the tuning but it may not work as well unless you raise the action ont he guitar. Try it and see whathappens. Experiment!
300guitars 2 years ago
Billy thanks for the tuning. I have been trying to learn a Wrinkle neck Mules song in a C-6 and something was just not quite right. I totally just nailed it in this tuning.
noweirdbeard 2 years ago
Cooool! Let me know if you put a clip up. I'd love to hear it!!
300guitars 2 years ago
Billy thanks for this tuning. I have been trying to figure out a Wrinkle neck Mules song in a C-6 and something was just not quite right.. I just totally nailed it with this tuning!
noweirdbeard 2 years ago
That last part like something from Ed and Eddn and Eddy when he makes the volume change I love it!
jarqlore 2 years ago
LOL!!!!!
300guitars 2 years ago
sounds like spongebob theme music
LoveSponge07 2 years ago 21
Does it have a nasal sound or a sweet sound? What is your opinion? From youtube it is heard to understand the exact sound.
I am looking for a lap steel that sounds sweet. Some of the ones I saw has a nasal sound, the kind of that you hear when someone is trying to sing through his/her nose.
Let me know if you have any suggestions.
gomesj01 2 years ago
Sounds like a Hank Williams song.
b33133rice 2 years ago
I would like to get me decent quality,affordable lap steel to learn on.
SonnyREast 2 years ago
I'm not 100% sure. I got this tuning years ago and it just works. Try it and have fun!
300guitars 2 years ago
Sounds like a good tuning. How does this tuning differ from CEGACE? I'm new to lapsteel and I understand, I think, that CEGACE are the middle 6 strings from a country 8-string tuning, but your tuning somehow sounds more like that ol' time country lapsteel sound.
johnPiercey 2 years ago
Yes, open tuning. I am just muting the other strings so they don't ring and interfere with watchers trying to tune with the video. Have fun!!
300guitars 2 years ago
Was that an open tuning you did? I wasn't sure if you were using your fingure to point to the strings or what. Sounds good tho, i've been trying to get that old time country sound out of my lap steel... can't wait to try this tuning out.
justFUNdimples 2 years ago
could you make some videos on how to play a slide on electric to make it sound like a lap steel guitar? nice playin by the way
squierplayer 2 years ago
great tuning what gauge strings are you using with this tuning as well
JoeBarcus 2 years ago
Thank you and God Bless!!!!
300guitars 3 years ago
Oh Yeah!! Thanks for sharing your guitar, your knowledge, and your music. So good! Look after yourself man; we want you around for a long time.
JohnMalcolm 3 years ago
Cool! Have fun!!!
300guitars 3 years ago
Great tunning tip! Playing Blue Moon Of Kentucky off the back of it in mins. Cheers from the UK!
tritonstu 3 years ago
I'll give you $60.00, and that's cash! Just kidding. I would think that if it is all original and good condish like you say then $500-$600 would be my guess. I am not a dealer, just a player and enthusiast. Jim at Hoboken Vintage could tell you better. Google them on the web.
300guitars 3 years ago
i'm selling my 55 fender lap steel with original case. any idea what it's worth. it's in very good condition and doesn't even buzz i just don't know what to sell it for
whyszguy 3 years ago
I use DR Blues sets. Nickel round wound. The work for me.
300guitars 3 years ago
i just got a 40s or 50s 6 string fender lap. what is a good guage if i want to stay with regular guitar tuning until i get better at it i don't understand the a9 or c6 difference. since i've never played one and could i use regular thick guage guitar round wound strings on it?
whyszguy 3 years ago
I think a set of .011-.048 or .012-.054 guage should do it. Keep me posted!
300guitars 3 years ago
are we talking about lap steel strings or regular nickel round wound guitar strings
whyszguy 3 years ago
.012-.054 guage strings. DR Nickel roundwound. Yeah, Hank Williams and all those guys. Check out Cindy Cashdollar. She is awesome. She plays with Redd Volkaert alot and they both compliment each other very well.
300guitars 3 years ago
No, these are open strings. Just tune the strings open and you are on your way. That sounds like a really cool guitar! If you can take a photo and send it to me. I will put it in the Guitar Gallery. Have fun!!!!!
300guitars 3 years ago
Would you please tell me what string gauges you're using? Nice playing, just what I like about the old Hank Williams steel player stuff!
camgraham2 3 years ago
Hi Billy, In the video, when you tune, did you fret with the tone bar for each string at the nut? or do you tune each string A E fs A bs E all open. I don't know how to tune no less play any instrument, but I desire to learn now, as I recently acquired a six string 1955/57 WHITE made by Fender, what a beauty, and it still has it's original three adjustable legs and hard case.
AveLguy 3 years ago
wow, was it the one, you found on eBay? I had my eyes on that one too!!! enjoy it, that one was really clean!
rkharper 3 years ago
No. I have owned this lap steel for over 10 years. It is definitely cool. Thanks!
300guitars 3 years ago
oh, I'm sorry, I meant the white lap steel, from AveLguy ! haha, yes, the Fenders from the 50ties are killer, I had a champ from 1656, but the fool I am, I sold it....
rkharper 3 years ago
Yeah, it's cool. It' is the only lap steel I own at the moment.
300guitars 3 years ago
Great! Enjoy!
300guitars 3 years ago
Awesome! I just started playing the lap steel, and your video is very short but VERY informative! This is the first video I've found that doesn't lean more towards Hawaiian or New Grass, which is great because the only reason I picked the instrument up was to play Hank and Patsy. Now I have a good tuning and a couple of licks to build on. Thanks very much!
davefranklinmartin 3 years ago
Hell yeah!
Plutoloco4 3 years ago 2
That sounds like Honky Tonk to me!
crazycuntryboy2 3 years ago
sound like gold
Deadfreeeak 3 years ago
Thank you!
300guitars 3 years ago
Not just the lap ....but you too !!!
Deadfreeeak 3 years ago
Thank you. Kenny Aaronson (bass player for many artists such as Billy Idol, Joan Jett and Bob Dylan) gave me this tuning a bunch of years ago and never really gave it much thought about being Eb. You can adapt it to E obviously by raising each string by a half step. I hope the tuning is useful to you. It is a cool sound for sure!
300guitars 3 years ago
Hi
Nice work on that old steel. Just out of curiosity why do you play in Eb when the guitar is tunes to A-440?
Thanks
jomo3309 3 years ago
Thanks for the tuning - now I have something to do with my six-strings. I favor the 8 string for mellow Hawaiian stuff.
Mahalo, Johnny Pal
MangoDaVille 3 years ago
one of those bits sounded like a byrds part from sweetheart of the rodeo!
I'd love to learn how to play lap steel!!
dannycrombie 3 years ago
nice tuning, thank you
farismusic1 3 years ago
what kind of amp are you using?
JushGus 3 years ago
For this video demo I used my 1966 Fender Vibro Champ. It is factory stock, no mods. When I use the lap steel out on a gig I use my 5F6-A 4x10 Bassman clone I built. It rips!!!!
300guitars 3 years ago
.012-.054 roundwound. I like DR nickel strings.
300guitars 3 years ago
What string gauges do you use?
calledoz12 3 years ago
That was a really well done vid! I've got an old 60's Gretsch lap steel that my brother gave me which a neighbor gave him rather than throw it away(!!!) The classic story of "dad bought it new, never learned to play, chucked it in the closet and now he's dead". Anyway, never knew how to tune it and stumbled on your video while trying to find out more about it. I've played six string for years so now that I know how to tune it... LOOK OUT! Thanks much for the lesson!
monstercatambush 3 years ago
10-4, I'm glad I could help!!!
300guitars 3 years ago
Wow, string pull trick.
melvis24 3 years ago
Wow wow wow very cool. Great sound and thanks for the tuning. Thanks :)
smokybrick 3 years ago
Cool. I play bass and i was thinking of getting one of these...
PinkEyedSyndrome 3 years ago
No, nice clean honky tonkin'! Maybe next time I will do a more bluesy one. Thanks!!
300guitars 3 years ago
PUT SOME DISTORTION ON IT, MAN
jk
IsnatchedUrHero 3 years ago