No doesn't sound like the same one. This one has a solid bronze handle which is still firmly attached. It looks exactly like the one sculpted on the Athenian stele. Proportions are the same size and shape to the stele's. British National Museum's initial analysis didn't believe it was a forgery. Double edged with a minimalist leaf shape and the remains of serration grooves. I believe the blade length was about 9" or so; maybe 1.5 or 1.7" at the widest.
I've actually seen a recent artifact that could be this rare sword type. But the blade is only a hair under 9" and 1.75" wide and only very barely 'leaf' shaped. Serrated on all edges but not the same serrations. Serrations are wider one one side and quite small and fine on the other. Handle is dimpled completely and cast in 3 parts of bronze. A completely unusual construction type. It's currently being studied by the BNM who believe it to be late 5th century construction but not typical to any
@Apollokrates I believe Iv seen this sword as well, did the owner also posses a kopis and other cleaned swords? The hand guard was pretty much non existent and it looked more like a knife than a sword. Pictures of it were posted on Romanarmytalk. c om, where everyone agreed it was a fake. Though there is pictorial depictions of swords similar to this, there also are to the one in the video. though this one too is incorrect in some aspects.
Do you wrap the handle of the final product? If not, how's the vibration if hitting something solid, or sword to sword? Doubt many would ever find out by hitting something with a nice piece like that, but still. I guess it could be wrapped yourself after the customer buys it, no big deal. Very nice though, super sharp.
@huntingwolf20 Thanks for the comment. Beleive it or not it doesn't really have a vibration. I've hit firewood and boards, and it works real well. Wouldn't use it to chop a tree down though. I think it was designed more for thrusting.
Hey, Archer..would you be willing to construct an ancient Greek hoplite shield? In the style of Athena's with the gorgon Medusa's head detailed on it.?
@ArcherOut Ah, thank you for the fast reply! When you do remember me, I'll be VERY interested in buying. Just remember, that if you want a more mythological feel to it, look up a portrait of Athena and look at her shield, it carried alot of importance to the Greeks!
They can not range experience so the spartan won because of weapon technology. It does not mean either one is better than another. You try fighting some one with a huge shield. It is not that easy even if you are a ninja.
@jjordan89481 Iphicrates figured how to defeat the Spartans with light troops. rswere good, for 300 BC, but after another few hundred years their methods were obsolete
From the look of the sword's construction it looks like the Lakonian is a bit stronger than the Roman Gladius with the wooden handle? Nice work. Like the forerunner to the Roman Short sward and then Bowie Knife..ha ha. I wonder why more modern swords went with the cutlass sabre type?
@1Atomtan I believe they are both pretty sturdy, if the Gladius is made right. What I do like about the Lakonian, the handle is all steel, so it's heavier than the blade, so you can move it quickly. All the weights right in your hand.
lol its funny how he says Xiphos in the vid. He says it like zi-f-os buts it ze-f-os. My grandpa who was born and raised in Greece used to love watching the old greek adventure films and he would pronounce it ze-f-os. The lakonian was the smallest of the Xiphos blades and was used mainly by Spartans. The rest of the city states used xiphos blades ranging from 18 to 25 inches. The blades were made of iron so making them any longer they would have bent or worse. Their forging methods were ancient
@Lostprophetzzz Your thinking of the Bronze age. In that case your right. but during the time the Xiphos was in use it was the classical period, so the geomectrical, cornithian, and damn I forget the other, but the weapons were made of Iron. I dont know the exact time but I know the Bronze weapons in Greek culture were made of bronze from around 2,500 BC (I think) to 1000BC I'd have to check again. The Lakonian was in use after the fall of Mycenae. Theres a slight chance im off a lttle though.
@mechupanlamonda The Xiphos is larger and more of a full size sword, and broader. The Lakonian is more like a big knife. Close in fighting. But that's just the way I look at it.
based on any tsts on most typesof greek swords the fictional cleaver and eal kopis (if you made one) and the xipos, which on balance would you reccomend?
hey im an ameture here and me and my bro rly like sword fighting and im trying to make what would resemble proper swords rather than swinging just stick around.
atm im taking a straight branch and citing it down both sides to make the filler and then shating of the sides to make edges, is this a good method? and what type of wood shuld i use?
There really isn't really a proper sword. It just depends on what you are using it for. Slashing, stabing, etc. Close in fighting..distance fighting. If you use a Xiphos, it's for close in fighting because it's short. Then you have a long broad sword which you would be farther apart from eachother and swinging wildly. Hope that helps. Chris
No. Thoughs were created for the movie, based off the drawings out of the graphic novel. I like both swords, though, which is why I make and sell both.
Thank you my Greek friend. It's nice to know someone with the knowledge of your history. Greek and Roman history has always interested me. I must have Greek blood in me somewhere. I'm sure of it :) Look forward to getting advice from you on some of my future weapons projects. Thanks, Chris.
I forgot I wasn't watching Deadliest Warrior for a minute there.
GorySpirit 4 months ago
great do you guys have any freek long swords
lewisgunner1 7 months ago
@lewisgunner1 We do have some long swords on our website. Our Rhomphaia, Yatagan, Mycenaean, Valeria , etc. Thanks,
ArcherOut 7 months ago
@ArcherOut kool how much are they
lewisgunner1 7 months ago
@lewisgunner1 You can link to them to get prices from my website listed in this video (also listed in my channel). Thanks,
ArcherOut 7 months ago
very cool blade.can you shave with it?
trialsrider001 8 months ago
Αυτό είναι Ξίφος! Εύγε!
hel1nas 8 months ago
Krimson-
No doesn't sound like the same one. This one has a solid bronze handle which is still firmly attached. It looks exactly like the one sculpted on the Athenian stele. Proportions are the same size and shape to the stele's. British National Museum's initial analysis didn't believe it was a forgery. Double edged with a minimalist leaf shape and the remains of serration grooves. I believe the blade length was about 9" or so; maybe 1.5 or 1.7" at the widest.
Apollokrates 8 months ago
I've actually seen a recent artifact that could be this rare sword type. But the blade is only a hair under 9" and 1.75" wide and only very barely 'leaf' shaped. Serrated on all edges but not the same serrations. Serrations are wider one one side and quite small and fine on the other. Handle is dimpled completely and cast in 3 parts of bronze. A completely unusual construction type. It's currently being studied by the BNM who believe it to be late 5th century construction but not typical to any
Apollokrates 9 months ago
@Apollokrates I believe Iv seen this sword as well, did the owner also posses a kopis and other cleaned swords? The hand guard was pretty much non existent and it looked more like a knife than a sword. Pictures of it were posted on Romanarmytalk. c om, where everyone agreed it was a fake. Though there is pictorial depictions of swords similar to this, there also are to the one in the video. though this one too is incorrect in some aspects.
KrimzonKnight01 8 months ago
Αρχαιοελληνικο ξιφος....!!!!!!! Ελλας...!!
Billikaros 9 months ago
didnt they use bronze back then?
frenchfrog1979 9 months ago
looks more like a longer dagga to me mate
Outlaw1872 11 months ago
do you guys also make the shields?
darthshadowxxx 11 months ago
@darthshadowxxx No. Sorry, we do not.
ArcherOut 11 months ago
@ArcherOut is it full tang?
darthshadowxxx 11 months ago
@darthshadowxxx It sure is.
ArcherOut 11 months ago
Do you wrap the handle of the final product? If not, how's the vibration if hitting something solid, or sword to sword? Doubt many would ever find out by hitting something with a nice piece like that, but still. I guess it could be wrapped yourself after the customer buys it, no big deal. Very nice though, super sharp.
huntingwolf20 1 year ago
@huntingwolf20 Thanks for the comment. Beleive it or not it doesn't really have a vibration. I've hit firewood and boards, and it works real well. Wouldn't use it to chop a tree down though. I think it was designed more for thrusting.
ArcherOut 1 year ago
@ArcherOut do you have a forge or did you use a grinder
foxstar612 8 months ago
how much?
mathragen 1 year ago
@mathragen Currently $259. You can see more information on it, and order it, on my website. Thanks.
ArcherOut 1 year ago
Hey, Archer..would you be willing to construct an ancient Greek hoplite shield? In the style of Athena's with the gorgon Medusa's head detailed on it.?
colorblindvids 1 year ago
@colorblindvids At this time, I'm not, but it is on my list to do in the near future.
ArcherOut 1 year ago
@ArcherOut Ah, thank you for the fast reply! When you do remember me, I'll be VERY interested in buying. Just remember, that if you want a more mythological feel to it, look up a portrait of Athena and look at her shield, it carried alot of importance to the Greeks!
colorblindvids 1 year ago
....ninjas & spartans ??? .........jesus.....fanboys, get back on your skateboards
jethro035181 1 year ago
@PGT121 A ninja in eye-to-eye combat against a Spartan will lose. Ninja's are assassins, spies and thieves, not soldiers.
peace36660 1 year ago
NINJA FTW
xPowerofwillx 1 year ago
They can not range experience so the spartan won because of weapon technology. It does not mean either one is better than another. You try fighting some one with a huge shield. It is not that easy even if you are a ninja.
jjordan89481 1 year ago
@jjordan89481 Iphicrates figured how to defeat the Spartans with light troops. rswere good, for 300 BC, but after another few hundred years their methods were obsolete
DonMeaker 1 year ago
@PGT121 The Spartan had too much armor and too much power for a ninja. Face to face, impossible. Maybe from behind.
ArcherOut 1 year ago
Gerard Butler seemed like he was having fun testing that sword out.
recurveninja 1 year ago
jajajajajaj "SPATAN vs ninja" xD Fail
LokiTheCursedGod 1 year ago
make a claymore that would be sick
cobraopts7 1 year ago
that is one kick ass blade
trialsrider001 1 year ago
This Xiphos looks great.I'm hoping to order this someday.
J12Ice 1 year ago
From the look of the sword's construction it looks like the Lakonian is a bit stronger than the Roman Gladius with the wooden handle? Nice work. Like the forerunner to the Roman Short sward and then Bowie Knife..ha ha. I wonder why more modern swords went with the cutlass sabre type?
1Atomtan 1 year ago
@1Atomtan I'm not real sure. I like these designs better. Seems more logical then a curved blade.
ArcherOut 1 year ago
@ArcherOut
I like them also. Would you say your Lakonian would hold up better than the Roman? Seems more of a full tang or at least a thicker tang?
1Atomtan 1 year ago
@1Atomtan I believe they are both pretty sturdy, if the Gladius is made right. What I do like about the Lakonian, the handle is all steel, so it's heavier than the blade, so you can move it quickly. All the weights right in your hand.
ArcherOut 1 year ago
lol its funny how he says Xiphos in the vid. He says it like zi-f-os buts it ze-f-os. My grandpa who was born and raised in Greece used to love watching the old greek adventure films and he would pronounce it ze-f-os. The lakonian was the smallest of the Xiphos blades and was used mainly by Spartans. The rest of the city states used xiphos blades ranging from 18 to 25 inches. The blades were made of iron so making them any longer they would have bent or worse. Their forging methods were ancient
LaCosaNostra132 1 year ago
@LaCosaNostra132 I think the difference is one has an American accent, and one has a Greek accent.
ArcherOut 1 year ago
@LaCosaNostra132 swords those days were mostly made of bronze
Lostprophetzzz 1 year ago
@Lostprophetzzz Your thinking of the Bronze age. In that case your right. but during the time the Xiphos was in use it was the classical period, so the geomectrical, cornithian, and damn I forget the other, but the weapons were made of Iron. I dont know the exact time but I know the Bronze weapons in Greek culture were made of bronze from around 2,500 BC (I think) to 1000BC I'd have to check again. The Lakonian was in use after the fall of Mycenae. Theres a slight chance im off a lttle though.
LaCosaNostra132 1 year ago
@LaCosaNostra132 I think is more a fact that he is stupid than that he isn't pronouncing it right.
Pawnbroker00 1 year ago
what is the difference between a xiphos and a lakonian sword?
mechupanlamonda 1 year ago
@mechupanlamonda The Xiphos is larger and more of a full size sword, and broader. The Lakonian is more like a big knife. Close in fighting. But that's just the way I look at it.
ArcherOut 1 year ago
ninja every time
salma4621 1 year ago
@salma4621 ninja every time he loses up against the spartan
petezilla2k 1 year ago
@salma4621 well, in the show the spartan won so ur wrong :D
LokiTheCursedGod 1 year ago
based on any tsts on most typesof greek swords the fictional cleaver and eal kopis (if you made one) and the xipos, which on balance would you reccomend?
elgostine 1 year ago
@elgostine I would pick the Xiphos.
ArcherOut 1 year ago
@elgostine oh... i must say im surprised, i suspected the kopis would be the winner due to its cleaver capabilities..fair enough
elgostine 1 year ago
spartan won becuz he has a shield and all those amor
SoFr3shAzn 1 year ago
Hey can I buy a spartan sword and how much is for 1?
urultimatemaster 2 years ago
was this an actual fight to the death being filmed I think the ninja would last longer
verdemanthe1 2 years ago
go greeks:D owned the ninjas orew video eh?
petrosz12 2 years ago
How much are these? This one is my favorite of all the ones you guys have made.
PS, what is the writing on the sword?
ShadowL64 2 years ago
"Scorpion Knives"
TrenchcoatNinja3 2 years ago
hey im an ameture here and me and my bro rly like sword fighting and im trying to make what would resemble proper swords rather than swinging just stick around.
atm im taking a straight branch and citing it down both sides to make the filler and then shating of the sides to make edges, is this a good method? and what type of wood shuld i use?
eoran2 2 years ago
There really isn't really a proper sword. It just depends on what you are using it for. Slashing, stabing, etc. Close in fighting..distance fighting. If you use a Xiphos, it's for close in fighting because it's short. Then you have a long broad sword which you would be farther apart from eachother and swinging wildly. Hope that helps. Chris
ArcherOut 2 years ago
how do you make these the exact shape of the real xiphos
toot65 2 years ago
The first one I drew it on a piece of steel, cut it out, and then made a template I can use over and over again, to make more. Chris
ArcherOut 2 years ago
so the ones off of 300 werent even used buy spartans
cobraopts7 2 years ago
No. Thoughs were created for the movie, based off the drawings out of the graphic novel. I like both swords, though, which is why I make and sell both.
ArcherOut 2 years ago
I wont one to where can i get one? :)
soska247 2 years ago
You can visit my website. It's available to order from there. Thanks for your comments. Chris
ArcherOut 2 years ago
you guys are artists!! I want one!
JesterJoolz 2 years ago
Thanks bro. Anytime your ready, I'll make one for you. Chris
ArcherOut 2 years ago
looks very strong
vxAREKxv 2 years ago
It's all steel. It's very very strong :) Thanks. Chris
ArcherOut 2 years ago
WOW, thats really beautiful Chris, looks like it would last 1000 years. great sword and video.
Mike.
WeaponCollector 2 years ago
Thanks Mike. My hands are tired from this one! But I'm glad I stayed at it. Chris
ArcherOut 2 years ago
it looks awesome
:)
NERANGELO17 2 years ago
Thanks bro. Chris
ArcherOut 2 years ago
where do you buy your steel at?
flipboom 2 years ago
A local company, DeVille Steel in Springfield Mo.
ArcherOut 2 years ago
Very Very Cool!! Nicely Done Chris!!
5/5
Ed
wildlifeed 2 years ago
Thanks Ed. Had fun doing this one! Chris
ArcherOut 2 years ago
great job Chris. What type of steel did you use for this one?
flipboom 2 years ago
Thank you. I used saw blade steel for the sword itself, and 5160 steel for the scales & guard. Chris
ArcherOut 2 years ago
Another great creation you have there Chris! 5/5 Ed
CATmover1 2 years ago
There's my Georgia peach! Haven't heard from you in a while. Hope everythings been well. Thanks for your comments. Chris
ArcherOut 2 years ago
the sword itself was very deadly.not long,serving the best after the spear was broken from the many hits
great construction you did,keep it up
mafiozossss 2 years ago
Thank you my Greek friend. It's nice to know someone with the knowledge of your history. Greek and Roman history has always interested me. I must have Greek blood in me somewhere. I'm sure of it :) Look forward to getting advice from you on some of my future weapons projects. Thanks, Chris.
ArcherOut 2 years ago