what many people are expressing here is the primary problem with western society. We're ALL about the individual. we don't give 2 cents if it doesn't benefit our own lives. YES, parents have much to do with the upbringing of their children but the community also plays an important role. As the African proverb states, "it takes a VILLAGE to raise a child." ever hear of "ubuntu"? "i am because we are." the spirit of community is what help us thrive as people regardless of color, class or creed.
Our parents must be educated advocates who are willing to do whatever it takes to prepare their children for a world that is not preparing for them. I know Black high school educated parents who birthed college-educated children. This reveals that some of our families have to work harder than others and our black men need to be present and relevant in our community!
@BullyMusik depend on one another to thrive here in the USA. Every group, that is except black folks..we don't get that today. Please read my posts from 2 days ago for further analysis. Let me know what you think. Peace.
@BullyMusik revolutionary zeal, even if they didn't agree w/it! We make fun of that time now. But we called each other "brother" & "sister" then. It was the LOVE that people saw we had for one another and the unity that inspired respect. Blacks today have bought into the uniquely American perspective of "rugged individualism", get mines & f**k everyone else! It's ok for whites to think this way cause they created the system to work for them. But every other group understands that they have to
@BullyMusik strength. I agree, that segregation had it's benefits. However, we didn't have a choice then but to be segregated. Now we have choice and we choose to run away from us when we "make it". All we have to do is choose to be united. But we won't 'cause we don't love/respect ourselves. And if we don't, why would anyone else? Look at how in the 60's & 70's w/all that "black pride" & "black power" & love. We had everybody trippin! White folks were trying to grow afros and admired our
@BullyMusik be forced to respect us! They may not like us, but they'll say, "Damn, those n*****s are really doing something!" After a couple of generations pass, seeing that then the consciousness of the general population will shift. Will we ever be totally rid of racism? Probably not, but we would get a whole lot further not worrying about who is doing what to us because that's out of our control. We need to be about our business together & that will give us the needed political & economic
@BullyMusik part of town where we'll be the only blacks there. Why? Look, racism in this country is real but it's not our biggest problem. You heard me right, racism is not Black folks #1 issue! Our most important & obvious obstacle is the lack of unity & a togetherness mentality. We have money & resources..we have blacks in high positions of govt.(mayors, govnrs, police chiefs & a president). But we don't do much together when it comes to economics & politics. When we do that, then people will
@BullyMusik I disagree with the statement, "We can't truly be successful in a country that hates blk ppl...to the core!" Although I think you were on point with some of your other comments. Black people can do anything we put our minds to..COLLECTIVELY. We have been playing the wrong game for 50 years. Look at our history! We gained world wide respect during the 60's because we stood up together & moved together. Now everyone wants to live like white people live. We want to move into a white
@in0wh3r3ul1v3 no pay. And now, when we are affected the most by a painful economy, everyone is looking at us like, "what's the matter w/them?!" Even THEY (society) looks at ua collectively. But we won't think/act together. Together black people in Amer. have the 8th largest economy in the world. Imagine if we formed global partnerships (based on needs) w/blacks everywhere. We would be a formidable partner/competitor to anyone..but I digress. Sorry I went on so long. I get passionate. Peace.
@in0wh3r3ul1v3 enough. It won't happen. America is a hyper-competitive society. In a democratic republic, those that play together play to win! Everyone is doing this but Black people. Hispanics fight for Hispanic rights, women for women's rights, Jews for Jews, handicapped and gay for their own respectively..Blacks fight for CIVIL rights of all these "minority" groups. We're losers because we don't have our own team. We're scared to fight for what is ours, rightfully. We built this country for
@in0wh3r3ul1v3 has the school in S. Africa? We have to do that for ourselves here. I know thats a tall order, but we've been depending on the gvmnt and whoever is running this or that private institution. It's not working. No one else has more incentive than ourselves, and WE don't have much. This is GARVEY speaking and MALCOLMS words. It's not new, but we didn't listen. We want to diffuse our power & money & resources out among whites because we think we'll find acceptance once we achieve
@in0wh3r3ul1v3 ..their strength comes from their sense of community. It is because they are strong within and amongst themselves that they are able to contribute to the rest of society. "Black popular culture" has been commoditized by white people, packaged and resold to us..AND WE BUY IT! There's no power in it. Just another way to define us.."You are THIS. And nothing else.." You asked, "So how do we make education COOL to black youth?" We have to educate ourselves, period. You know how Oprah
@in0wh3r3ul1v3 your kids somewhere safe and give your family the best opportunities but we wont even do any work in black nieghborhoods. We won't open a business or provide a service there (we leave that to the asians & arabs). We won't buy property there (we leave that to the white man, to fix up & raise prices to push us out). Lastly, you said "what I gather is that you believe minority groups have roles to play, but only within their own communities?" No, but I believe that the strength
@in0wh3r3ul1v3 is reactive and not proactive. Proactive would be to forget about what the white man or any other man thinks about us and worry about how we see ourselves. We have enough money. We have enough educated black folks. But we lack the collective mentality or sense of togetherness to see ourselves in each other. Black people who achieve run far away from their "hood" to live w/whites, taking $ and resources w/them. Those who are left..too bad, so sad. Now, I understand wanting to raise
@in0wh3r3ul1v3 grievences w/the white man have been in reaction to how WE have been treated by HIM. Although this truth is as plain as the noses on our faces, people seldom admit or even acknowledge this fact. So our so called "pride" in being "anti-white" is mostly an attempt to hold on to...a lost dignity, a sense of self-importance, if you will. I think that most blacks understand that we have been defined by our oppressor and we unconsiously resist his definitions. The problem is that this
@in0wh3r3ul1v3 differently to the racial status quo. I say all this to say that there are reasons why some get ahead easier than others here. You also said that, "Black popular culture PRIDES itself in being the antithesis of everything mainstream and "white."" While I agree w/you in a way, let me say first that black people have never, and I mean NEVER had anything against whites. Even if you go all the way back to African history, you won't find black prejudice against the white man. Our
@in0wh3r3ul1v3 I also wanted to point out that not all of them behave this way. It is human nature to want to associate w/what is valued by society. So those that buy into that kind of thinking want assimilation (general statement but true). Many Asian & Indian women (also Mexican men & women) want to marry white or at least marry LIGHT. American blacks have not escaped this pathology and generally cherish lighter skin w/in their own race. So yes, these groups are different and they each react
@in0wh3r3ul1v3 You said, "You lost me when you likened American Blacks to immigrants and later African immigrants. These are hugely different groups, with different values..". Actually, I was drawing out the distinctions b/w these groups and how immigrants do not bring the "baggage" of slavery to this country with them. They may have had hardships but they know who they are and they retain that sense of self. They generally express this by staying close to one another and working together.
BULLSHIT... IF BLACK WOMEN STOP HAVING THESE ANCHOR BABIES.... they get knocked up by these sorry ass black men.. then half ass raise them.. because that black man they screwed didnt stay around.. their is NO HOME TRAINING..
the problem starts with BIRTH CONTROL... stop having kids you can't raise... BLACK WOMEN NEED TO ABORT THEIR KIDS if they have no plans on trying to raise the child to being a RESPONSIBLE CITIZEN.. when you let them raise themselves they become wild ANIMALS!!
@JMARKISS00 want to be associated with the "winners" of society. But alas, black skin and phenotypical differences make assimilation a little harder than for some others. The only group in America that can claim a similar experience to Blacks are Native Amer. Look at their history and current condition. Lastly, I'll let you in on a well kept secret..according to the Census Bureau, Africans have the highest educational attainment rates of ANY immigrant group in the United States. Even Asians.
@JMARKISS00 (I use this for example, not stereotype). Business ownership, knowledge of self(culture & language) and recycling money in your own community works wonders. Closing your comm. off to others helps(try navigating Chinatown in NY). Most immigrants do not have a history of slavery to deal with, so many Asians, Indians, etc. will culturally pass as "darker white people". And I don't blame them. Blacks have tried to "whiten" themselves culturally and some literally, for years. Who wouldn't
@JMARKISS00 I have to let you know first, that most immigrants do very well here. My parents immigrated here from Jamaica. My father is a physician, my mother a nurse(I know, sounds cliche). But most immigrants from Asian countries are not your poor, huddled masses. In fact, most are from middle & upper class in their former countries. Those who are uneducated and poor will connect w/their community here and work in a nail shop/food shop until they can own one and put kids through college.
@JMARKISS00 , I don't care what color they are and subject them to abject poverty, disease, arbitrary death and sub-human treatment(add 400 yrs.)..and eureka, you will get same results. The secret ingredient is to strip them of anything that would inform them of who they are(history) and what they are capable of. See, you may travel to any ghetto on the planet (I've been to some, including China and Vietnam) and you will see the same conditions as any inner-city USA. How do Asians do it here?
@JMARKISS00 I find no problem w/talking about what has happened, how it happened and by whom (white folks). These are historical facts and as the Jews are so fond of saying, "Never forget!". No one tells them they are living in the past. When people are properly educated about the black experience in America then they will understand the problems we are facing today. And no, I don't blame the media(there are issues there tho). What we are dealing with is social engineering. Take any population
@slavesblood you're right, there are problems from the past that affect us today. but instead of facing the adversity of today many black people choose to harp on the atrocities of the past and we can never move forward as a people. We really need a "cultural re-awakening" but i fear it may be too late.
@JMARKISS00 Please do not compare the mistreatment of any other race(Asians) w/that of Black people in the last 400+ yrs. Not "systematic oppression", but brutal and inhumane treatment, SYSTEMATIC rape and murder. Add to that Jim Crow laws, Black Codes, sharecropping(re-enslavement) and regular lynchings..oh, and the work w/no pay. This didn't even slow down until the 1960's! Now, I'm all for personal responsibility and it IS for black people to take up the mantle and fight this fight. However,
Please spare me with this non-sense. Past time for these parents of these boys to step up. Time for the single moms to stop pretending that they are strong enough to raise a successful man. Time for black men to stop allowing their silly baby mom keep them from their kids. Time to stop asking why everyone else has failed and ask why we as a community has failed.
I blame W.E. Dubois and his talented tenth program. History teaches us that after reconstruction only 10% of african americans were designed to succeed. Thanks to integration and the wanting to be more like whitey, we lost ourselves in to Greek mythological bull*****. Women lie and men lie but numbers and history is the only truth. The public school system teaches our kids to become money makers, therefore when a young man reaches 10 years old he starts thinking of making money.
(contd) that focus on "this is what's wrong in the black community". Personally, I don't want to talk about it. I'd rather get up and do everything in my power to help little by little. Since I'm an artist, I would further push myself to set examples to the future generations and live life as positively as I can. No one can make someone else change. That's something internal. All we can do is inspire, so I do that in every piece that I create. *not hatin, just statin*
I agree with those who said this isn't the education system's problem. There are many situations that led to the current problem. Teachers can only do so much with students who are unwilling to learn. Period. The "teach them that we were kings and queens" bullshit argument is pointless, because we're not in the past, we're in the now. Period. The race card is also pointless because we aren't the only minority. We have so many documentaries (contd)
@darev25 i agree with you. i believe on of the biggest problems for black folks is that we live in the past. We talk about how our ancetors were treated but we fail to realize that all that ill treatment of black folks has given the future blacks in this country an opportunity to achieve success that has never been paralleled in any time in history. We truely are the Masters of our Destinies yet we handicap ourseleves by constantly airing our past grieviences. Sad...
You can only do so much with a school...It makes no difference to give these kids new text books if they don't want to read them anyway. We need to attack the sub culture of Black stupidity...Today's black youth feel a since of pride from getting failing grades. With every other culture its an embarrassment. A black male that gets bad grades receives praise from his peers that encourage him. There used to be a time when a black kids was scared to come home with a bad report card.
@PhilxEulogyx I have often said we are the only pople who celebrate ignorance. When I was in School I was accused of trying to talk white, trying to be white, or thinkign I was better than everyone else b/c I spoke proper english with impeccable diction and made good grades. I was never a fahin slave nor was I a person who tried to impress my peers. I was my OWN trendsetter. I also knew why people said those things ... its wasnt becasue it was "cool" it was because they were jealous.
@PhilxEulogyx cont. They would rather try to dampen my shine by tearing me down and makign disparaging remarks. I am so thankful that I never strived for acceptance from others. Besides if they were dumb, made bad grades, Why the hell would I want to be like them? Now when I look at my classmates from middle school and me.... Reality is the real equalizer. I am 34 graduated in 94.... I have middle school clasmates who are grandparents. But kids need to be validated at home so they dont look ....
@PhilxEulogyx cont... elsewhere. I never had to look for classmated to accept me. I knew my work because it was instilled in me at home. I think becasue of the oppression faced for generations and institutionalized racism many of us simply gave up and decided to "create a subculture" rather than tryt o assimilate. So then everything status quo became bad and everything else was celebrated because we were saying we'll make it on our own. But making it wasnt living it was merely existing.
@Mongo76 We can't truly be successful in a country that hates blk ppl...to the core! In my opinion, to remedy the problem would be to have our own $ (means of trade). We're trying to get an american dream that wasn't intended for blk ppl. In a perfect world, we would have our own land/culture/community/spirituality etc. I'm no racist, however, I DO see the importance of segregation. How can we become apart of other cultures if we can't identify with our own? Generations have been stripped.
@BullyMusik I agree with you. I have stated before that racism is something that will never go away because it is imbedded in the very foundation of the country. It can be said that one of the principle foundations of the country is racism via slavery. The whole society is built in such a fashion that ensures control will always be concentrated within the majority. Also we must remember we are only one generation from blatant racism and disenfranchisement made able by the govt.
@BullyMusik People also kill me acting oblivious to the obvious racial inequality thats till exists. They feel thayt because integration is over and black can go to schools of choice and there is an effort to hire minorities in numerous industries, it means racism and civil rights issues are over. My mother and father went to a school where they passed down old faded band uniforms and instruments from the white school. They passed down old outdated txtbooks whent he white schools got new ones.
@BullyMusik Many of our parents didn't get to go to college simply because they couldnt afford to. Whites have always had more opportunities due to the built up wealth in their families. Our parents didn't have that same wealth so they had to start from scratch. It takes generations to build such wealth. As such, we have a ways to go. Where as a white person my age likely has a family of college educated people stretching back 8 or 9 generations, many of us are still the firsts in our families.
@Mongo76 With such education, comes job opportunities and wealth building. We still have people whose parents didnt go to college so they dont, or they have no one to emphasize the benefits of school or encourage them to go. Its more complicated than just because our civil rights are recognized we are all equal. We wont be equal until we have that generational wealth built up comparable to whites so we are starting out on equal footing. and example.....is cont....
@Mongo76 Take this example. Brad is going to college. His dad is a regional mgr of a big company and is able to pay for his tuition. Then take Leroy who''s parents received substandard education and wasnt prepared to go to college so they only job they could get was a low paying service job. Leroy is less likely to be able to go to school because his parents income is limited by their education due to the effects of racism , segregation and discrimination of years past.
Am i supposed to feel sorry for them? Isn't the REAL problem the parenting? If the parents would help their children to succeed, there wouldn't be any issues. I am a 23 y/o African-American single mother and hell will freeze over before I allow my son to meet his educational demise. I work with him constantly and try to teach him the importance of living right and getting a good education. I personally didn't have good parents, but i TOOK IT UPON MYSELF TO MAKE A CHANGE and they can too.
@KIR1020 & seanmg..There are some valid points about the household and what not, but don't portray it as if thats the only type of family structure blacks have and that no blacks deserve any better. On that note, I guess your parents are racists and raised you as one as well. They would be proud I'm sure..You would be honored if you have at least one family member that would be ashamed of you. Because it would at least mean that they cared enough to be ashamed.
@KIR1020 & seanmg............Do any of you idiots even realize that there are more white Americans on welfare than any other race? You numskulls just sit at home digest those foolish assumptions from television and skewed polls and regurgitate them as educated facts. And before you reply to me look up and tell this board what race has the largest number of welfare recipients.
everyone please check out Tim Wise's "White Priviledge" it's here on Youtube....and a book i think everyone black should check out is "the golden age of the moors" and know your true history,don't be fooled by WHITE lies and BS......we taught the GREEKS and ROMAN EMPIRE everything they know.
@getmoneystayreal so if every black person was to sit down and read a book of how the moors taught the greeks, do you think that would change the demise of black folks in America? will reading a book all of a sudden lead to a great reawakening in this country?
Wonder why nobody seems to take into account the fact that discrimination against blacks was built into "American" society. Of course blacks are failing in school, this country never intended for them to be educated in the first place, you think a black president, Brown v. board of education, etc. is going to change that? NO WAY. Most whites can't see the effects and discrimination because the system of white privilege is set up for that very purpose. Blacks where never supposed to succeed.
@TheArsonistBeats That's true. I just think that we as Americans fail to realize that when it comes to African Americans, they have purposely been set back hundreds of years. It would not be realistic to expect them to do so well just because we, as a society START to help for 50 years or so. Racism towards blacks was wooven into the foundation of how this country not only thinks but goes about every day life, to the point were everyone is a bit racist. Now how do you suppose that happened?
@uzzleman Racism has a long and deep rooted presence in this country. even today the affects of it can still be seen. But at some point, black people have to take responsibility for ourselves. We can only play the race card for so long.
@JMARKISS00 I agree with you, but take into the account the fact that blacks have been systematically oppressed by the same government that we look to for protection. Assaination of civil rights leaders, the crack epidemic, these things aren't freak accidents. You have to take that into account when saying that, "we need to take responsibility for ourselves." That's a lot of responsibility. I'm not promoting some of the ignorant things that some blacks do, but does anyone ever care to ask "why?"
@uzzleman Asians have been systematically oppressed by this country for the better part of the 20th Century. The majority of the Wars faught by America has been with other Asian Countries. Yet they are still the most successful minority group in this country. It can be argued that they are more successful at achieving the "American Dream" than the white people that the system caters to. Instead of asking why, black folks should be asking "what" what are the asians doing that we are not!
@JMARKISS00 pretty deep, but I'm not surprised that you said that. No disrespect, but you should google, read, or youtube, Asians being the "Model Minority" and exactly how and why they are as "successful" as they are. Not to take away from any of their contributions and accomplishments. I agree, they have been oppressed, but even in their oppression they where "preferred" over blacks, not because they did a better job, but because they were not black, black oppression dates back much further
@uzzleman I agree that yoke of slavery has embedded a certain image of black people in the minds of everyone in this country but i was alluding to the cultural differences between asians and blacks in America. If you study the statistics, asian students perform better academically than all other demographic groups. Preference has nothing to do their academic performance. They are more likely to be upstanding, law-abiding citizens than any other group in America. We need to emulate that!
@JMARKISS00 I see what you mean, but what you have to understand is the history of minorities in American culture. Were the statistics that you talk about done during the beginning of Asian immigration? If so, once again, you will find that when they immigrated to the U.S. in search of a better life, yes, they where discriminated against, but where still preferred over African Americans on the basis of nothing more than to prevent blacks from achieving a higher social status in America.
@uzzleman Check out the results from the census bureau (2000). Also, the results of 2010 will probably reflect the same thing. These stats started to change roughly after WWII. during a time when americans still shouted "Jap or Chink" to anyone of asian decent. I'm not talkiing 200 years ago. I'm talking right now! when it's really important.
@JMARKISS00 Ultimately, Asians where given preference over ALL other minorities, not just African Americans, and it has been that way since their immigration to this country. So after 200 years or so of gaining oppressive whites preference, of course you will excel beyond other minorities. I know that they have even excelled, in some instances, beyond some whites, which is why when they date outside their race, in most circumstances, it will be with a white person as a sign of social status.
Respond to this video... Read up on how SFSU used a "successful" Asian as quality control against student and teacher riots back in the 1960's. The ugly truth that can be found out by actually researching this issue, is that the racist whites of the past allowed Asians to gain their socio-economic status, using them as a model minority for all minorities to follow, yet not giving other minorities the same opportunities to excel.
@uzzleman so there it is... A conspiracy by the Man to pull the strings behind the curtain. But his plan backfired so much that he inadvertently allowed Asians to be more successful and better at achieving "the American dream" than himself. You've cracked the case!
@uzzleman again, you are going back 40-50 years. Let's talk about today. Let's talk about standardized test scores! Let's talk about how Asians have to score higher than other minorities and even majorities on college entrance exams to get into certain universities. how do you explain that? how do you explain why universities have to make it more difficult for Asians to gain admittance just so that other minorities get a fair shot. That's not very fair to them! result of model minority?
@JMARKISS00 I see, now I understand exactly where you may be coming from and why you are not understanding my comments. For one, I'm going back further than 40-50 yrs.Second, the reason why I am going back that far is because those are the building blocks on American culture and society, it is because things where set up the way they were back then that things are the way they are now.
@JMARKISS00 You cant ignore that type of logic, it's like building a foundation on sand, but sitting at the top and wondering why it fell over, well, check the foundation.
@JMARKISS00 So I say to you, when you say "we need to emulate Asians", be clear on what it is that you claim we need to emulate, especially when there is evidence that what you are trying to emulate, was set up to confuse people into doing exactly what your saying we need to do. Tell you what, imagine the tables being turned, and African Americans being in the white peoples position, do you thing you wouldn't hear the same argument from whites? I'm pretty sure you would.
@JMARKISS00 I would like to add that asians, chaldeans etc. are able to excell and succeed in this society due to the hand-out given by (the elite/gov't etc.) They are able to start, operate, generate revenue without having to pay taxes for 7 years!!!! Courtesy of the U.S....After that period has ended, they are allowed to pass the business to a family member, which starts the cycle of 7 years over! That has never and will never happen for blk ppl in this country, sorry!
@BullyMusik you contribute the success of Asians in this country to the fact that they don’t pay taxes? are you also arguing that if black people didn’t have to pay taxes they would be as successful As Asians? that makes no sense. Not all Asians are born abroad. There are 2nd, 3rd generation Asians in this country who have to pay all the same taxes as we black folks. What is your answer for the success of those who aren‘t receiving that “hand-out? the answer is not economic. It’s cultural!
well its hard when your mom is cracked out your dad aint around plus u stay in the hood so where is the help first all.. u cant do right if u dont know right.. and shit is far from right for alot of black males first of being black n america is harder than being white or any other race dayum near.. but this shit is crazy for some silver spoon bastards to leave idiotic post when there life is a total 360 from alot of ppl.. I came from the hood ive had feelings of dropping out... which i did...
Black males should stop being lazy problem solved. Problems start when you don't take responsibility for actions and set out a plan to fix it. And it doesn't make it better that were sitting here trying to make excuses for them.
@quaweeguy Idiotic post huh, pretty sure your someone who would be better off attempting to further your education then leaving useless comments on youtube
Thats like saying out of the 100,000 white people in Africa, the 50,000 in prison are bad misrepresentation of whites. Seeing that there are 900 million black people in Africa, if theres 40 million in prison, which is worse the majority of the minority OR the minority of the majority? <Answer that.
@TheArsonistBeats first off.....i just wanna say one thing to everyone commenting on here,these young brothers should take accountability,to a CERTAIN EXTINT,the Jew run media always try's to portray our people in a negative,unhuman and non-successful manner.....it's up to US to change that,that's where accountability come's in,secondly....you can't really make a film about young brothers being "lost" without stating the reason why,no one seem's to mention everytime we have.....continued...
@getmoneystayreal .....successful and powerful black leaders/people the CIA/US Govt has them killed off (example:MLK,MALCOLM X,THE PANTHERS;Etc) that has a crippling effect on guiding our youth and teaching them TRUE knowledge of self,knowing our MOORISH history and not AMERIKKKAN,which basically is us as SLAVES,so,im very biased about this film not touching that.....you know,not all of us want to be rappers or athlete's,FYI.....god bless black people....peace.
@getmoneystayreal If they let teens think for themselves it would be easier to determine who's ready for the world and who's not. I think teens(13+) should be able to work, smoke, and everything else( besides driving and stuff you have to be 21+ for). You don't see people who are 17 acting less mature than people who are 18. Why should people who are 22 have a higher insurance rate than people who are 23? I think 13 should be the legal age for all 18-21 activities not involving sex or explicity.
@JMARKISS00 Becasue they perpetuate age old sterotypes. Also, they know in a home where there is limited guidance, a child is influenced more by what they see than what in the home. The ultimte fault is parents being irresponsible having kids they have NO means to care for and then releasing these undisciplined train wrecks on the community. They let tv raise their kids. But media plays some part and should be more responsible in the things they promote and glamorize
@Mongo76 The media don't perpetuate age old stereotypes, Black folks themselves perpetuate the stereotypes. You can't blame the media for high crime rates in black communities. You can't blame the media for high attrition and truancy rates of black children. You can't blame the media for high rates of single mothers in the black community. At some point black folks have to take repsonsibilty for their own actions.
@JMARKISS00 It seems you just want to argue with people. You obviously didn't read my post or you didn't understand it if you did. I specifically stated that parents are to blame. Also, do you know what a stereotype is? Black people are not perpetuating a stereotype, they are simply living their lives. Stereotypes come from those who DO NOT live in the black community and think what they see in the media is an accurate representation of black people. Crime rates, truancy, single mothers? cont..
@JMARKISS00 High crime rates, higher single parenthood, those are not stereotypes they are neither hyperbolic inflations or exaggerated. So no black people aren't perpetuating anything. Take the local news .There are always more stories linking black people to criminal activity than anyone else. One would think most crimes are commited by black people based on that b/c it all they show. In reality, whites commit more crimes b/c there are more of them. It's just not given as much airtime, if any.
@JMARKISS00 Now step back a second and LOOK at what I am saying. I am not arguing against you. I agree we can't allow past social ills to define OUR future. I also know that things are not cut and dry all the time. There is a reason for everything, to pinpoint and state the reason is in no way an excuse of the behavior it is an explanation for why it occurs. High crime rates are a reality in ALL low income areas not just Black ones. Low income/poverty is directly related to crime rates.
@JMARKISS00 I also think anyone growing up in this day and age have no legitimate claim to racism keeping them from going to college or getting an education. Even if they don't have a trust fund like Sally Sue they can get Pell Grants, SEOG grants, Student loans, Work study, etc .... It is possible to actually go to school funded totally by grants.... I know I did it.
@JMARKISS00 That is only one side. I come from a college educated family so it was a given that I was expected to go to college after HS. What about those who come from a long line of HS dropouts, baby momma's, illegitimate kids, generations of welfare recipients(grandma, momma, and Sheniquah) If no one around them values education or has one, They are likely to follow that same path b/c they don't know or haven't seen anything different.
@JMARKISS00 i never said it was the media's fault DICKHEAD,the media add's fuel to the fire,and create's stereotypes....and you mention blacks like we all are the same and stick together on the street corner,there are black areas like beverly hills,black corporations;etc.....why don't you try logging off and travelling the world before you throw us all under the same umbrella,you FAILED horribly with you ignorance and stereotypical stupidity,good day sir!
Really? They picked the lamest dudes possible for this interview, wonder why they dropped out. But anyways, more whites drop out than blacks. Blacks are only 13% of the US and Whites & Hispanics are 78% of the US. If 50% of blacks aren't getting a HS diploma that's really not as bad as the 40% of whites/hispanics dropping out(120 Million). There trying to make black people look bad. Theres only 13million blacks and 300million whites. Theres more whites in prison than blacks. So yea, not that bad
@TheArsonistBeats It is nothing but a numbers game to make things seem different than what they are. Like when people wanna jump up and say there's an abundance of black people on welfare when in actuality there are more whites on it becasue there are more of them. I also get so tired of ppl referring to "the black community: as if we are a damn fraternal order or something. There's no membership fee or monthly meeting, lol
@Mongo76 Thank you, my point exactly. They act like there's a billion of us. Theres almost 90 million white people on welfare but that's only 30 percent of their population so they don't even acknowledge it.
Proponents want more money for education. How are you going to educate kids who are undisciplined and unmotivated. Who have parents who are undisciplined and are unmotivated to be educated? Remember the parents of these welfare kids are the drop outs of 5 10 years ago. The parents didn’t care about their about education and they don’t care anything their kids education. If you don’t have an environment where there is discipline and the kids are SELF motivated, it is a waist of money.
Authoritative – The first principle is the man is the head of the household. You can not have a productive community, city nor country without men in the home. People want more programs, more police, more schools, more, more, more. However, None of those social problems will be solved until that first principle is addressed. One day will recognize this. Illegitimacy has to be de-incentivize. You have single unemployed women who are better off financially with children than without. Thats crazy.
There's nothing wrong with black boys.. We are trying to accomplish something that has never been done in the history of civilization. Establishing a productive community without men in the home/70% illegitimacy rate. What’s wrong is the progressives took over the civil rights movement and are pushing this new familial structure. They used Civil rights leaders and black academia to deliver the message. The common folk have bought into it and now the black community is drowing because of it.
I'm a teacher and the root of all these problems is the society portraying a negative image of black people and our young people trying to live up to these ignorant thuggish stereotypes. The lack of male role models in households who in the past may not have had a good education, but they demanded that their boys try hard in school and be respectful of other people. Now young boys have to raise themselves into manhood and they are doing a poor job. Moms try but they are not dads.
@orilocs Your point is 90% valid, but I don't agree with "..moms try but they are not dads." Moms, like myself, do just as good at raising gentlemen as our male counterparts. There are a plethora of successful men in this world that were raised without a father/male figure.
@MsLeeLee2500 co-sign, because I am a product of a single-mother household. Granted, I am blessed to have a supportive mother and grandmother and had wonderful great-grandparents who supported me (peace to their souls), so my case is an exception. However, I do agree with this. The "men need to be there" argument gets old once you find successful young men who defy statistics. I hate the argument personally.
@MsLeeLee2500 True, women/moms do the best job that they can do. However, they will never compare to a man being in the home. A strong male presence alone will cause a shift of prospectiveness. I was raised by my mom since 13. But what has helped me become the man I am today was when my dad was living. I learned soooo much from just watching him. It has shaped me til this day. I just wanted to share a bm perspective with you.
@orilocs I agree with you, but I also believe that there are not enough black and minority teachers in general. There was a servey and they found that children tend to be be better students when they are taught by people that look like them. Whether it's true or not, i would be willing to give it a shot if it's in the best interest of the future of our children's education.
It's the parents. I'm a teen, what I've noticed from other black kids these days think, they have to act or live their life in a certain way just because they are black. Black parents need to teach their kids that they don't have to act a certain way because they are black and help their kids grow into individuals that can make good choices for their future. And more black parents need to be involved with their kids lives especially their school life.
babies raising babies, family system destroyed and lot people who were letting there children be raised by there grandparents are now the grand parents. i don't think the stress for better education and to strive for excellency is really being pushed within the black community.
I'm a black male and I graduated. Most of the other black kids. 2 of my older brothers graduated and my younger brother is a senior right now. I'm in college and so is my older brother. I get great grades B's and A's. I think the problem is 3 factors 1st the kids are lazy, 2 their parents are not stressing the importance of education, and finally their sucked into the notion of gangster rap culture that it's ok to be bad that it's cool. Take the initiative and get an education for yourself. I'm
@demarcomixon - I am an educated black woman working in Newark. YOU brother man are completely and utterly delusional to think that kids today are lazy and that "gangsta rap" ( WTF?) has that much of an influence on our kids. Parents have to step up their responsibility and be apart of the school and Newark needs to put just as much money into each kid as they do in Montclair, NJ! -He is not heavy, he is my brother! WAKE UP!
@kmw55555 Delusional I am? I see the world for what it is. Black kids acting like fucking fools imating what they see on TV and movies. The media doesnt really protray positive black role models and I know this as a fact because when I was in middle school I was dressing up and speaking in slang getting into fights and acting out. I think your kinda right that parents need to be apart of school and they also need to teach their children the value of a education.
I think that what Demarco has realized, wisely, is that the wounds killing Black people are, if not self-inflicted, greatly exacerbated by our own complacency and allegiance to the ignorance and casual sexuality promoted by some elements of rap. Laziness, as evidenced in your comment that parents need to step up, is perhaps better termed "apathy" in students. Further, spending more to educate people who don't value education wouldn't work as well as tracking.
what many people are expressing here is the primary problem with western society. We're ALL about the individual. we don't give 2 cents if it doesn't benefit our own lives. YES, parents have much to do with the upbringing of their children but the community also plays an important role. As the African proverb states, "it takes a VILLAGE to raise a child." ever hear of "ubuntu"? "i am because we are." the spirit of community is what help us thrive as people regardless of color, class or creed.
hopedawg86 6 months ago
Our parents must be educated advocates who are willing to do whatever it takes to prepare their children for a world that is not preparing for them. I know Black high school educated parents who birthed college-educated children. This reveals that some of our families have to work harder than others and our black men need to be present and relevant in our community!
simrnchokolat 7 months ago
@BullyMusik depend on one another to thrive here in the USA. Every group, that is except black folks..we don't get that today. Please read my posts from 2 days ago for further analysis. Let me know what you think. Peace.
slavesblood 1 year ago
@BullyMusik revolutionary zeal, even if they didn't agree w/it! We make fun of that time now. But we called each other "brother" & "sister" then. It was the LOVE that people saw we had for one another and the unity that inspired respect. Blacks today have bought into the uniquely American perspective of "rugged individualism", get mines & f**k everyone else! It's ok for whites to think this way cause they created the system to work for them. But every other group understands that they have to
slavesblood 1 year ago
@BullyMusik strength. I agree, that segregation had it's benefits. However, we didn't have a choice then but to be segregated. Now we have choice and we choose to run away from us when we "make it". All we have to do is choose to be united. But we won't 'cause we don't love/respect ourselves. And if we don't, why would anyone else? Look at how in the 60's & 70's w/all that "black pride" & "black power" & love. We had everybody trippin! White folks were trying to grow afros and admired our
slavesblood 1 year ago
@BullyMusik be forced to respect us! They may not like us, but they'll say, "Damn, those n*****s are really doing something!" After a couple of generations pass, seeing that then the consciousness of the general population will shift. Will we ever be totally rid of racism? Probably not, but we would get a whole lot further not worrying about who is doing what to us because that's out of our control. We need to be about our business together & that will give us the needed political & economic
slavesblood 1 year ago
@BullyMusik part of town where we'll be the only blacks there. Why? Look, racism in this country is real but it's not our biggest problem. You heard me right, racism is not Black folks #1 issue! Our most important & obvious obstacle is the lack of unity & a togetherness mentality. We have money & resources..we have blacks in high positions of govt.(mayors, govnrs, police chiefs & a president). But we don't do much together when it comes to economics & politics. When we do that, then people will
slavesblood 1 year ago
@BullyMusik I disagree with the statement, "We can't truly be successful in a country that hates blk ppl...to the core!" Although I think you were on point with some of your other comments. Black people can do anything we put our minds to..COLLECTIVELY. We have been playing the wrong game for 50 years. Look at our history! We gained world wide respect during the 60's because we stood up together & moved together. Now everyone wants to live like white people live. We want to move into a white
slavesblood 1 year ago
@in0wh3r3ul1v3 no pay. And now, when we are affected the most by a painful economy, everyone is looking at us like, "what's the matter w/them?!" Even THEY (society) looks at ua collectively. But we won't think/act together. Together black people in Amer. have the 8th largest economy in the world. Imagine if we formed global partnerships (based on needs) w/blacks everywhere. We would be a formidable partner/competitor to anyone..but I digress. Sorry I went on so long. I get passionate. Peace.
slavesblood 1 year ago
@in0wh3r3ul1v3 enough. It won't happen. America is a hyper-competitive society. In a democratic republic, those that play together play to win! Everyone is doing this but Black people. Hispanics fight for Hispanic rights, women for women's rights, Jews for Jews, handicapped and gay for their own respectively..Blacks fight for CIVIL rights of all these "minority" groups. We're losers because we don't have our own team. We're scared to fight for what is ours, rightfully. We built this country for
slavesblood 1 year ago
@in0wh3r3ul1v3 has the school in S. Africa? We have to do that for ourselves here. I know thats a tall order, but we've been depending on the gvmnt and whoever is running this or that private institution. It's not working. No one else has more incentive than ourselves, and WE don't have much. This is GARVEY speaking and MALCOLMS words. It's not new, but we didn't listen. We want to diffuse our power & money & resources out among whites because we think we'll find acceptance once we achieve
slavesblood 1 year ago
@in0wh3r3ul1v3 ..their strength comes from their sense of community. It is because they are strong within and amongst themselves that they are able to contribute to the rest of society. "Black popular culture" has been commoditized by white people, packaged and resold to us..AND WE BUY IT! There's no power in it. Just another way to define us.."You are THIS. And nothing else.." You asked, "So how do we make education COOL to black youth?" We have to educate ourselves, period. You know how Oprah
slavesblood 1 year ago
@in0wh3r3ul1v3 your kids somewhere safe and give your family the best opportunities but we wont even do any work in black nieghborhoods. We won't open a business or provide a service there (we leave that to the asians & arabs). We won't buy property there (we leave that to the white man, to fix up & raise prices to push us out). Lastly, you said "what I gather is that you believe minority groups have roles to play, but only within their own communities?" No, but I believe that the strength
slavesblood 1 year ago
@in0wh3r3ul1v3 is reactive and not proactive. Proactive would be to forget about what the white man or any other man thinks about us and worry about how we see ourselves. We have enough money. We have enough educated black folks. But we lack the collective mentality or sense of togetherness to see ourselves in each other. Black people who achieve run far away from their "hood" to live w/whites, taking $ and resources w/them. Those who are left..too bad, so sad. Now, I understand wanting to raise
slavesblood 1 year ago
@in0wh3r3ul1v3 grievences w/the white man have been in reaction to how WE have been treated by HIM. Although this truth is as plain as the noses on our faces, people seldom admit or even acknowledge this fact. So our so called "pride" in being "anti-white" is mostly an attempt to hold on to...a lost dignity, a sense of self-importance, if you will. I think that most blacks understand that we have been defined by our oppressor and we unconsiously resist his definitions. The problem is that this
slavesblood 1 year ago
@in0wh3r3ul1v3 differently to the racial status quo. I say all this to say that there are reasons why some get ahead easier than others here. You also said that, "Black popular culture PRIDES itself in being the antithesis of everything mainstream and "white."" While I agree w/you in a way, let me say first that black people have never, and I mean NEVER had anything against whites. Even if you go all the way back to African history, you won't find black prejudice against the white man. Our
slavesblood 1 year ago
@in0wh3r3ul1v3 I also wanted to point out that not all of them behave this way. It is human nature to want to associate w/what is valued by society. So those that buy into that kind of thinking want assimilation (general statement but true). Many Asian & Indian women (also Mexican men & women) want to marry white or at least marry LIGHT. American blacks have not escaped this pathology and generally cherish lighter skin w/in their own race. So yes, these groups are different and they each react
slavesblood 1 year ago
@in0wh3r3ul1v3 You said, "You lost me when you likened American Blacks to immigrants and later African immigrants. These are hugely different groups, with different values..". Actually, I was drawing out the distinctions b/w these groups and how immigrants do not bring the "baggage" of slavery to this country with them. They may have had hardships but they know who they are and they retain that sense of self. They generally express this by staying close to one another and working together.
slavesblood 1 year ago
BULLSHIT... IF BLACK WOMEN STOP HAVING THESE ANCHOR BABIES.... they get knocked up by these sorry ass black men.. then half ass raise them.. because that black man they screwed didnt stay around.. their is NO HOME TRAINING..
the problem starts with BIRTH CONTROL... stop having kids you can't raise... BLACK WOMEN NEED TO ABORT THEIR KIDS if they have no plans on trying to raise the child to being a RESPONSIBLE CITIZEN.. when you let them raise themselves they become wild ANIMALS!!
Rico9XXX 1 year ago
@JMARKISS00 want to be associated with the "winners" of society. But alas, black skin and phenotypical differences make assimilation a little harder than for some others. The only group in America that can claim a similar experience to Blacks are Native Amer. Look at their history and current condition. Lastly, I'll let you in on a well kept secret..according to the Census Bureau, Africans have the highest educational attainment rates of ANY immigrant group in the United States. Even Asians.
slavesblood 1 year ago
@JMARKISS00 (I use this for example, not stereotype). Business ownership, knowledge of self(culture & language) and recycling money in your own community works wonders. Closing your comm. off to others helps(try navigating Chinatown in NY). Most immigrants do not have a history of slavery to deal with, so many Asians, Indians, etc. will culturally pass as "darker white people". And I don't blame them. Blacks have tried to "whiten" themselves culturally and some literally, for years. Who wouldn't
slavesblood 1 year ago
@JMARKISS00 I have to let you know first, that most immigrants do very well here. My parents immigrated here from Jamaica. My father is a physician, my mother a nurse(I know, sounds cliche). But most immigrants from Asian countries are not your poor, huddled masses. In fact, most are from middle & upper class in their former countries. Those who are uneducated and poor will connect w/their community here and work in a nail shop/food shop until they can own one and put kids through college.
slavesblood 1 year ago
@JMARKISS00 , I don't care what color they are and subject them to abject poverty, disease, arbitrary death and sub-human treatment(add 400 yrs.)..and eureka, you will get same results. The secret ingredient is to strip them of anything that would inform them of who they are(history) and what they are capable of. See, you may travel to any ghetto on the planet (I've been to some, including China and Vietnam) and you will see the same conditions as any inner-city USA. How do Asians do it here?
slavesblood 1 year ago
@JMARKISS00 I find no problem w/talking about what has happened, how it happened and by whom (white folks). These are historical facts and as the Jews are so fond of saying, "Never forget!". No one tells them they are living in the past. When people are properly educated about the black experience in America then they will understand the problems we are facing today. And no, I don't blame the media(there are issues there tho). What we are dealing with is social engineering. Take any population
slavesblood 1 year ago
@slavesblood you're right, there are problems from the past that affect us today. but instead of facing the adversity of today many black people choose to harp on the atrocities of the past and we can never move forward as a people. We really need a "cultural re-awakening" but i fear it may be too late.
JMARKISS00 1 year ago
@JMARKISS00 Please do not compare the mistreatment of any other race(Asians) w/that of Black people in the last 400+ yrs. Not "systematic oppression", but brutal and inhumane treatment, SYSTEMATIC rape and murder. Add to that Jim Crow laws, Black Codes, sharecropping(re-enslavement) and regular lynchings..oh, and the work w/no pay. This didn't even slow down until the 1960's! Now, I'm all for personal responsibility and it IS for black people to take up the mantle and fight this fight. However,
slavesblood 1 year ago
Please spare me with this non-sense. Past time for these parents of these boys to step up. Time for the single moms to stop pretending that they are strong enough to raise a successful man. Time for black men to stop allowing their silly baby mom keep them from their kids. Time to stop asking why everyone else has failed and ask why we as a community has failed.
qmastertoo 1 year ago 2
I blame W.E. Dubois and his talented tenth program. History teaches us that after reconstruction only 10% of african americans were designed to succeed. Thanks to integration and the wanting to be more like whitey, we lost ourselves in to Greek mythological bull*****. Women lie and men lie but numbers and history is the only truth. The public school system teaches our kids to become money makers, therefore when a young man reaches 10 years old he starts thinking of making money.
cpslymn 1 year ago
(contd) that focus on "this is what's wrong in the black community". Personally, I don't want to talk about it. I'd rather get up and do everything in my power to help little by little. Since I'm an artist, I would further push myself to set examples to the future generations and live life as positively as I can. No one can make someone else change. That's something internal. All we can do is inspire, so I do that in every piece that I create. *not hatin, just statin*
~Reverend~
darev25 1 year ago
I agree with those who said this isn't the education system's problem. There are many situations that led to the current problem. Teachers can only do so much with students who are unwilling to learn. Period. The "teach them that we were kings and queens" bullshit argument is pointless, because we're not in the past, we're in the now. Period. The race card is also pointless because we aren't the only minority. We have so many documentaries (contd)
darev25 1 year ago
@darev25 i agree with you. i believe on of the biggest problems for black folks is that we live in the past. We talk about how our ancetors were treated but we fail to realize that all that ill treatment of black folks has given the future blacks in this country an opportunity to achieve success that has never been paralleled in any time in history. We truely are the Masters of our Destinies yet we handicap ourseleves by constantly airing our past grieviences. Sad...
JMARKISS00 1 year ago
You can only do so much with a school...It makes no difference to give these kids new text books if they don't want to read them anyway. We need to attack the sub culture of Black stupidity...Today's black youth feel a since of pride from getting failing grades. With every other culture its an embarrassment. A black male that gets bad grades receives praise from his peers that encourage him. There used to be a time when a black kids was scared to come home with a bad report card.
PhilxEulogyx 1 year ago
@PhilxEulogyx I have often said we are the only pople who celebrate ignorance. When I was in School I was accused of trying to talk white, trying to be white, or thinkign I was better than everyone else b/c I spoke proper english with impeccable diction and made good grades. I was never a fahin slave nor was I a person who tried to impress my peers. I was my OWN trendsetter. I also knew why people said those things ... its wasnt becasue it was "cool" it was because they were jealous.
Mongo76 1 year ago
@PhilxEulogyx cont. They would rather try to dampen my shine by tearing me down and makign disparaging remarks. I am so thankful that I never strived for acceptance from others. Besides if they were dumb, made bad grades, Why the hell would I want to be like them? Now when I look at my classmates from middle school and me.... Reality is the real equalizer. I am 34 graduated in 94.... I have middle school clasmates who are grandparents. But kids need to be validated at home so they dont look ....
Mongo76 1 year ago
@PhilxEulogyx cont... elsewhere. I never had to look for classmated to accept me. I knew my work because it was instilled in me at home. I think becasue of the oppression faced for generations and institutionalized racism many of us simply gave up and decided to "create a subculture" rather than tryt o assimilate. So then everything status quo became bad and everything else was celebrated because we were saying we'll make it on our own. But making it wasnt living it was merely existing.
Mongo76 1 year ago
@Mongo76 We can't truly be successful in a country that hates blk ppl...to the core! In my opinion, to remedy the problem would be to have our own $ (means of trade). We're trying to get an american dream that wasn't intended for blk ppl. In a perfect world, we would have our own land/culture/community/spirituality etc. I'm no racist, however, I DO see the importance of segregation. How can we become apart of other cultures if we can't identify with our own? Generations have been stripped.
BullyMusik 1 year ago
@BullyMusik I agree with you. I have stated before that racism is something that will never go away because it is imbedded in the very foundation of the country. It can be said that one of the principle foundations of the country is racism via slavery. The whole society is built in such a fashion that ensures control will always be concentrated within the majority. Also we must remember we are only one generation from blatant racism and disenfranchisement made able by the govt.
Mongo76 1 year ago
@BullyMusik People also kill me acting oblivious to the obvious racial inequality thats till exists. They feel thayt because integration is over and black can go to schools of choice and there is an effort to hire minorities in numerous industries, it means racism and civil rights issues are over. My mother and father went to a school where they passed down old faded band uniforms and instruments from the white school. They passed down old outdated txtbooks whent he white schools got new ones.
Mongo76 1 year ago
@BullyMusik Many of our parents didn't get to go to college simply because they couldnt afford to. Whites have always had more opportunities due to the built up wealth in their families. Our parents didn't have that same wealth so they had to start from scratch. It takes generations to build such wealth. As such, we have a ways to go. Where as a white person my age likely has a family of college educated people stretching back 8 or 9 generations, many of us are still the firsts in our families.
Mongo76 1 year ago
@Mongo76 With such education, comes job opportunities and wealth building. We still have people whose parents didnt go to college so they dont, or they have no one to emphasize the benefits of school or encourage them to go. Its more complicated than just because our civil rights are recognized we are all equal. We wont be equal until we have that generational wealth built up comparable to whites so we are starting out on equal footing. and example.....is cont....
Mongo76 1 year ago
@Mongo76 Take this example. Brad is going to college. His dad is a regional mgr of a big company and is able to pay for his tuition. Then take Leroy who''s parents received substandard education and wasnt prepared to go to college so they only job they could get was a low paying service job. Leroy is less likely to be able to go to school because his parents income is limited by their education due to the effects of racism , segregation and discrimination of years past.
Mongo76 1 year ago
If you have the drive and will, God will make a way. These young boys need Jesus
yeahokay1500 1 year ago
Am i supposed to feel sorry for them? Isn't the REAL problem the parenting? If the parents would help their children to succeed, there wouldn't be any issues. I am a 23 y/o African-American single mother and hell will freeze over before I allow my son to meet his educational demise. I work with him constantly and try to teach him the importance of living right and getting a good education. I personally didn't have good parents, but i TOOK IT UPON MYSELF TO MAKE A CHANGE and they can too.
MsLeeLee2500 1 year ago 4
@MsLeeLee2500 thats rude some parents work to much to try and give thier children a decent life and they rely on the school to do there job.
sexiiblackbarbie92 1 year ago
@sexiiblackbarbie92 Not rude, realistic. That's no excuse, ma'am.
MsLeeLee2500 1 year ago
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MsLeeLee2500 1 year ago
@KIR1020 & seanmg..There are some valid points about the household and what not, but don't portray it as if thats the only type of family structure blacks have and that no blacks deserve any better. On that note, I guess your parents are racists and raised you as one as well. They would be proud I'm sure..You would be honored if you have at least one family member that would be ashamed of you. Because it would at least mean that they cared enough to be ashamed.
ddlingo 1 year ago
@KIR1020 & seanmg............Do any of you idiots even realize that there are more white Americans on welfare than any other race? You numskulls just sit at home digest those foolish assumptions from television and skewed polls and regurgitate them as educated facts. And before you reply to me look up and tell this board what race has the largest number of welfare recipients.
ddlingo 1 year ago
everyone please check out Tim Wise's "White Priviledge" it's here on Youtube....and a book i think everyone black should check out is "the golden age of the moors" and know your true history,don't be fooled by WHITE lies and BS......we taught the GREEKS and ROMAN EMPIRE everything they know.
getmoneystayreal 1 year ago
@getmoneystayreal so if every black person was to sit down and read a book of how the moors taught the greeks, do you think that would change the demise of black folks in America? will reading a book all of a sudden lead to a great reawakening in this country?
JMARKISS00 1 year ago
Wonder why nobody seems to take into account the fact that discrimination against blacks was built into "American" society. Of course blacks are failing in school, this country never intended for them to be educated in the first place, you think a black president, Brown v. board of education, etc. is going to change that? NO WAY. Most whites can't see the effects and discrimination because the system of white privilege is set up for that very purpose. Blacks where never supposed to succeed.
uzzleman 1 year ago
@uzzleman EXACTLY!
getmoneystayreal 1 year ago
@uzzleman They say America is like a salad bowl but that doesn't mean your going to like everything in it.
TheArsonistBeats 1 year ago
@TheArsonistBeats That's true. I just think that we as Americans fail to realize that when it comes to African Americans, they have purposely been set back hundreds of years. It would not be realistic to expect them to do so well just because we, as a society START to help for 50 years or so. Racism towards blacks was wooven into the foundation of how this country not only thinks but goes about every day life, to the point were everyone is a bit racist. Now how do you suppose that happened?
uzzleman 1 year ago
@uzzleman Racism has a long and deep rooted presence in this country. even today the affects of it can still be seen. But at some point, black people have to take responsibility for ourselves. We can only play the race card for so long.
JMARKISS00 1 year ago
@JMARKISS00 I agree with you, but take into the account the fact that blacks have been systematically oppressed by the same government that we look to for protection. Assaination of civil rights leaders, the crack epidemic, these things aren't freak accidents. You have to take that into account when saying that, "we need to take responsibility for ourselves." That's a lot of responsibility. I'm not promoting some of the ignorant things that some blacks do, but does anyone ever care to ask "why?"
uzzleman 1 year ago
@uzzleman Asians have been systematically oppressed by this country for the better part of the 20th Century. The majority of the Wars faught by America has been with other Asian Countries. Yet they are still the most successful minority group in this country. It can be argued that they are more successful at achieving the "American Dream" than the white people that the system caters to. Instead of asking why, black folks should be asking "what" what are the asians doing that we are not!
JMARKISS00 1 year ago
@JMARKISS00 pretty deep, but I'm not surprised that you said that. No disrespect, but you should google, read, or youtube, Asians being the "Model Minority" and exactly how and why they are as "successful" as they are. Not to take away from any of their contributions and accomplishments. I agree, they have been oppressed, but even in their oppression they where "preferred" over blacks, not because they did a better job, but because they were not black, black oppression dates back much further
uzzleman 1 year ago
@uzzleman I agree that yoke of slavery has embedded a certain image of black people in the minds of everyone in this country but i was alluding to the cultural differences between asians and blacks in America. If you study the statistics, asian students perform better academically than all other demographic groups. Preference has nothing to do their academic performance. They are more likely to be upstanding, law-abiding citizens than any other group in America. We need to emulate that!
JMARKISS00 1 year ago
@JMARKISS00 I see what you mean, but what you have to understand is the history of minorities in American culture. Were the statistics that you talk about done during the beginning of Asian immigration? If so, once again, you will find that when they immigrated to the U.S. in search of a better life, yes, they where discriminated against, but where still preferred over African Americans on the basis of nothing more than to prevent blacks from achieving a higher social status in America.
uzzleman 1 year ago
@uzzleman Check out the results from the census bureau (2000). Also, the results of 2010 will probably reflect the same thing. These stats started to change roughly after WWII. during a time when americans still shouted "Jap or Chink" to anyone of asian decent. I'm not talkiing 200 years ago. I'm talking right now! when it's really important.
JMARKISS00 1 year ago
@JMARKISS00 Ultimately, Asians where given preference over ALL other minorities, not just African Americans, and it has been that way since their immigration to this country. So after 200 years or so of gaining oppressive whites preference, of course you will excel beyond other minorities. I know that they have even excelled, in some instances, beyond some whites, which is why when they date outside their race, in most circumstances, it will be with a white person as a sign of social status.
uzzleman 1 year ago
Respond to this video... Read up on how SFSU used a "successful" Asian as quality control against student and teacher riots back in the 1960's. The ugly truth that can be found out by actually researching this issue, is that the racist whites of the past allowed Asians to gain their socio-economic status, using them as a model minority for all minorities to follow, yet not giving other minorities the same opportunities to excel.
uzzleman 1 year ago
@uzzleman so there it is... A conspiracy by the Man to pull the strings behind the curtain. But his plan backfired so much that he inadvertently allowed Asians to be more successful and better at achieving "the American dream" than himself. You've cracked the case!
JMARKISS00 1 year ago
@uzzleman again, you are going back 40-50 years. Let's talk about today. Let's talk about standardized test scores! Let's talk about how Asians have to score higher than other minorities and even majorities on college entrance exams to get into certain universities. how do you explain that? how do you explain why universities have to make it more difficult for Asians to gain admittance just so that other minorities get a fair shot. That's not very fair to them! result of model minority?
JMARKISS00 1 year ago
@JMARKISS00 I see, now I understand exactly where you may be coming from and why you are not understanding my comments. For one, I'm going back further than 40-50 yrs.Second, the reason why I am going back that far is because those are the building blocks on American culture and society, it is because things where set up the way they were back then that things are the way they are now.
uzzleman 1 year ago
@JMARKISS00 You cant ignore that type of logic, it's like building a foundation on sand, but sitting at the top and wondering why it fell over, well, check the foundation.
uzzleman 1 year ago
@JMARKISS00 So I say to you, when you say "we need to emulate Asians", be clear on what it is that you claim we need to emulate, especially when there is evidence that what you are trying to emulate, was set up to confuse people into doing exactly what your saying we need to do. Tell you what, imagine the tables being turned, and African Americans being in the white peoples position, do you thing you wouldn't hear the same argument from whites? I'm pretty sure you would.
uzzleman 1 year ago
@JMARKISS00 I would like to add that asians, chaldeans etc. are able to excell and succeed in this society due to the hand-out given by (the elite/gov't etc.) They are able to start, operate, generate revenue without having to pay taxes for 7 years!!!! Courtesy of the U.S....After that period has ended, they are allowed to pass the business to a family member, which starts the cycle of 7 years over! That has never and will never happen for blk ppl in this country, sorry!
BullyMusik 1 year ago
@BullyMusik you contribute the success of Asians in this country to the fact that they don’t pay taxes? are you also arguing that if black people didn’t have to pay taxes they would be as successful As Asians? that makes no sense. Not all Asians are born abroad. There are 2nd, 3rd generation Asians in this country who have to pay all the same taxes as we black folks. What is your answer for the success of those who aren‘t receiving that “hand-out? the answer is not economic. It’s cultural!
JMARKISS00 1 year ago
@uzzleman My point exactly! Great job stating, "the not-so obvious" truth!
BullyMusik 1 year ago
@BullyMusik thanks
uzzleman 1 year ago
well its hard when your mom is cracked out your dad aint around plus u stay in the hood so where is the help first all.. u cant do right if u dont know right.. and shit is far from right for alot of black males first of being black n america is harder than being white or any other race dayum near.. but this shit is crazy for some silver spoon bastards to leave idiotic post when there life is a total 360 from alot of ppl.. I came from the hood ive had feelings of dropping out... which i did...
yusufsaahir 1 year ago
@yusufsaahir definitely cosign this.
darev25 1 year ago
Black males should stop being lazy problem solved. Problems start when you don't take responsibility for actions and set out a plan to fix it. And it doesn't make it better that were sitting here trying to make excuses for them.
RayVonTv1 1 year ago
@RayVonTv1
lol what an idiotic post.
quaweeguy 1 year ago
@quaweeguy Idiotic post huh, pretty sure your someone who would be better off attempting to further your education then leaving useless comments on youtube
RayVonTv1 1 year ago
Thats like saying out of the 100,000 white people in Africa, the 50,000 in prison are bad misrepresentation of whites. Seeing that there are 900 million black people in Africa, if theres 40 million in prison, which is worse the majority of the minority OR the minority of the majority? <Answer that.
TheArsonistBeats 1 year ago
@TheArsonistBeats first off.....i just wanna say one thing to everyone commenting on here,these young brothers should take accountability,to a CERTAIN EXTINT,the Jew run media always try's to portray our people in a negative,unhuman and non-successful manner.....it's up to US to change that,that's where accountability come's in,secondly....you can't really make a film about young brothers being "lost" without stating the reason why,no one seem's to mention everytime we have.....continued...
getmoneystayreal 1 year ago
@getmoneystayreal .....successful and powerful black leaders/people the CIA/US Govt has them killed off (example:MLK,MALCOLM X,THE PANTHERS;Etc) that has a crippling effect on guiding our youth and teaching them TRUE knowledge of self,knowing our MOORISH history and not AMERIKKKAN,which basically is us as SLAVES,so,im very biased about this film not touching that.....you know,not all of us want to be rappers or athlete's,FYI.....god bless black people....peace.
getmoneystayreal 1 year ago
@getmoneystayreal If they let teens think for themselves it would be easier to determine who's ready for the world and who's not. I think teens(13+) should be able to work, smoke, and everything else( besides driving and stuff you have to be 21+ for). You don't see people who are 17 acting less mature than people who are 18. Why should people who are 22 have a higher insurance rate than people who are 23? I think 13 should be the legal age for all 18-21 activities not involving sex or explicity.
TheArsonistBeats 1 year ago
@getmoneystayreal why is it always the "big bad media" fault that black folks are not successful and behave the way they do?
JMARKISS00 1 year ago
@JMARKISS00 Becasue they perpetuate age old sterotypes. Also, they know in a home where there is limited guidance, a child is influenced more by what they see than what in the home. The ultimte fault is parents being irresponsible having kids they have NO means to care for and then releasing these undisciplined train wrecks on the community. They let tv raise their kids. But media plays some part and should be more responsible in the things they promote and glamorize
Mongo76 1 year ago
@Mongo76 The media don't perpetuate age old stereotypes, Black folks themselves perpetuate the stereotypes. You can't blame the media for high crime rates in black communities. You can't blame the media for high attrition and truancy rates of black children. You can't blame the media for high rates of single mothers in the black community. At some point black folks have to take repsonsibilty for their own actions.
JMARKISS00 1 year ago
@JMARKISS00 It seems you just want to argue with people. You obviously didn't read my post or you didn't understand it if you did. I specifically stated that parents are to blame. Also, do you know what a stereotype is? Black people are not perpetuating a stereotype, they are simply living their lives. Stereotypes come from those who DO NOT live in the black community and think what they see in the media is an accurate representation of black people. Crime rates, truancy, single mothers? cont..
Mongo76 1 year ago
@JMARKISS00 High crime rates, higher single parenthood, those are not stereotypes they are neither hyperbolic inflations or exaggerated. So no black people aren't perpetuating anything. Take the local news .There are always more stories linking black people to criminal activity than anyone else. One would think most crimes are commited by black people based on that b/c it all they show. In reality, whites commit more crimes b/c there are more of them. It's just not given as much airtime, if any.
Mongo76 1 year ago
@JMARKISS00 Now step back a second and LOOK at what I am saying. I am not arguing against you. I agree we can't allow past social ills to define OUR future. I also know that things are not cut and dry all the time. There is a reason for everything, to pinpoint and state the reason is in no way an excuse of the behavior it is an explanation for why it occurs. High crime rates are a reality in ALL low income areas not just Black ones. Low income/poverty is directly related to crime rates.
Mongo76 1 year ago
@JMARKISS00 I also think anyone growing up in this day and age have no legitimate claim to racism keeping them from going to college or getting an education. Even if they don't have a trust fund like Sally Sue they can get Pell Grants, SEOG grants, Student loans, Work study, etc .... It is possible to actually go to school funded totally by grants.... I know I did it.
Mongo76 1 year ago
@JMARKISS00 That is only one side. I come from a college educated family so it was a given that I was expected to go to college after HS. What about those who come from a long line of HS dropouts, baby momma's, illegitimate kids, generations of welfare recipients(grandma, momma, and Sheniquah) If no one around them values education or has one, They are likely to follow that same path b/c they don't know or haven't seen anything different.
Mongo76 1 year ago
@JMARKISS00 i never said it was the media's fault DICKHEAD,the media add's fuel to the fire,and create's stereotypes....and you mention blacks like we all are the same and stick together on the street corner,there are black areas like beverly hills,black corporations;etc.....why don't you try logging off and travelling the world before you throw us all under the same umbrella,you FAILED horribly with you ignorance and stereotypical stupidity,good day sir!
getmoneystayreal 1 year ago
Really? They picked the lamest dudes possible for this interview, wonder why they dropped out. But anyways, more whites drop out than blacks. Blacks are only 13% of the US and Whites & Hispanics are 78% of the US. If 50% of blacks aren't getting a HS diploma that's really not as bad as the 40% of whites/hispanics dropping out(120 Million). There trying to make black people look bad. Theres only 13million blacks and 300million whites. Theres more whites in prison than blacks. So yea, not that bad
TheArsonistBeats 1 year ago
@TheArsonistBeats It is nothing but a numbers game to make things seem different than what they are. Like when people wanna jump up and say there's an abundance of black people on welfare when in actuality there are more whites on it becasue there are more of them. I also get so tired of ppl referring to "the black community: as if we are a damn fraternal order or something. There's no membership fee or monthly meeting, lol
Mongo76 1 year ago
@Mongo76 Thank you, my point exactly. They act like there's a billion of us. Theres almost 90 million white people on welfare but that's only 30 percent of their population so they don't even acknowledge it.
TheArsonistBeats 1 year ago
Proponents want more money for education. How are you going to educate kids who are undisciplined and unmotivated. Who have parents who are undisciplined and are unmotivated to be educated? Remember the parents of these welfare kids are the drop outs of 5 10 years ago. The parents didn’t care about their about education and they don’t care anything their kids education. If you don’t have an environment where there is discipline and the kids are SELF motivated, it is a waist of money.
KIR1020 1 year ago 6
Authoritative – The first principle is the man is the head of the household. You can not have a productive community, city nor country without men in the home. People want more programs, more police, more schools, more, more, more. However, None of those social problems will be solved until that first principle is addressed. One day will recognize this. Illegitimacy has to be de-incentivize. You have single unemployed women who are better off financially with children than without. Thats crazy.
KIR1020 1 year ago
There's nothing wrong with black boys.. We are trying to accomplish something that has never been done in the history of civilization. Establishing a productive community without men in the home/70% illegitimacy rate. What’s wrong is the progressives took over the civil rights movement and are pushing this new familial structure. They used Civil rights leaders and black academia to deliver the message. The common folk have bought into it and now the black community is drowing because of it.
KIR1020 1 year ago
I'm a teacher and the root of all these problems is the society portraying a negative image of black people and our young people trying to live up to these ignorant thuggish stereotypes. The lack of male role models in households who in the past may not have had a good education, but they demanded that their boys try hard in school and be respectful of other people. Now young boys have to raise themselves into manhood and they are doing a poor job. Moms try but they are not dads.
orilocs 1 year ago 15
@orilocs Your point is 90% valid, but I don't agree with "..moms try but they are not dads." Moms, like myself, do just as good at raising gentlemen as our male counterparts. There are a plethora of successful men in this world that were raised without a father/male figure.
MsLeeLee2500 1 year ago
@MsLeeLee2500 co-sign, because I am a product of a single-mother household. Granted, I am blessed to have a supportive mother and grandmother and had wonderful great-grandparents who supported me (peace to their souls), so my case is an exception. However, I do agree with this. The "men need to be there" argument gets old once you find successful young men who defy statistics. I hate the argument personally.
~Reverend~
darev25 1 year ago
@MsLeeLee2500 True, women/moms do the best job that they can do. However, they will never compare to a man being in the home. A strong male presence alone will cause a shift of prospectiveness. I was raised by my mom since 13. But what has helped me become the man I am today was when my dad was living. I learned soooo much from just watching him. It has shaped me til this day. I just wanted to share a bm perspective with you.
BullyMusik 1 year ago
@orilocs I agree with you, but I also believe that there are not enough black and minority teachers in general. There was a servey and they found that children tend to be be better students when they are taught by people that look like them. Whether it's true or not, i would be willing to give it a shot if it's in the best interest of the future of our children's education.
JMARKISS00 1 year ago
@orilocs amen! you hit the G SPOT.
getmoneystayreal 1 year ago
It's the parents. I'm a teen, what I've noticed from other black kids these days think, they have to act or live their life in a certain way just because they are black. Black parents need to teach their kids that they don't have to act a certain way because they are black and help their kids grow into individuals that can make good choices for their future. And more black parents need to be involved with their kids lives especially their school life.
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monica24b 1 year ago
babies raising babies, family system destroyed and lot people who were letting there children be raised by there grandparents are now the grand parents. i don't think the stress for better education and to strive for excellency is really being pushed within the black community.
donp244 1 year ago
Sad but true. I know a lot of drop outs and they seem current with failure. The hood....
MrCocky 1 year ago
I'm a black male and I graduated. Most of the other black kids. 2 of my older brothers graduated and my younger brother is a senior right now. I'm in college and so is my older brother. I get great grades B's and A's. I think the problem is 3 factors 1st the kids are lazy, 2 their parents are not stressing the importance of education, and finally their sucked into the notion of gangster rap culture that it's ok to be bad that it's cool. Take the initiative and get an education for yourself. I'm
demarcomixon 1 year ago 2
@demarcomixon - I am an educated black woman working in Newark. YOU brother man are completely and utterly delusional to think that kids today are lazy and that "gangsta rap" ( WTF?) has that much of an influence on our kids. Parents have to step up their responsibility and be apart of the school and Newark needs to put just as much money into each kid as they do in Montclair, NJ! -He is not heavy, he is my brother! WAKE UP!
kmw55555 1 year ago
@kmw55555 Delusional I am? I see the world for what it is. Black kids acting like fucking fools imating what they see on TV and movies. The media doesnt really protray positive black role models and I know this as a fact because when I was in middle school I was dressing up and speaking in slang getting into fights and acting out. I think your kinda right that parents need to be apart of school and they also need to teach their children the value of a education.
demarcomixon 1 year ago
@kmw55555
I think that what Demarco has realized, wisely, is that the wounds killing Black people are, if not self-inflicted, greatly exacerbated by our own complacency and allegiance to the ignorance and casual sexuality promoted by some elements of rap. Laziness, as evidenced in your comment that parents need to step up, is perhaps better termed "apathy" in students. Further, spending more to educate people who don't value education wouldn't work as well as tracking.
seanmg 1 year ago
wow this is tough
makado1980 1 year ago