The Verdict Is In - Part 2: Dr. Ray Hagins

[Wow67jt]

He is right and I have preach the christain version of the so call truth,for over 25yrs and I have been mislead and trick by mankind to preach a doctrine that has been tamper with.But I see now and I now is going speak the truth.My people will parish for the lack of knowledge.I will start a church to teach on these teaching,I want to learn more so Ray Haggin get with me so We can help Houston,Tx to see the truth.

[renzo623]

Is that song you were singing the same melody from Gilligan's Island Doc? Anyway, I have been on this path for awhile. I just purchased a copy of the Book of Enoch and will be ordering the others u mentioned in this post! Thank you for your openness.

[IonvkchDis]

/watch?v=c5wWz12EQ3U .. riddle me this. why was first king of the first dynasty of egypt, king Menes, found buried in northern ireland, and why is the egyptian princess Scota buried in Ireland.. why are mummified baboons found in ireland. why were irish torcs found in an egyptian tomb and REMOVED by the rothschilds before the official "opening"

[AmbassadorAusar]

It takes a very special man to preach and believe one thing and allow facts and inner conviction to make them change and elevate their thought process to higher truths. This exemplifies brother Hagins, and he should be applauded for this courage. Not a lot of preachers would do this. They would just continue to captialize on the lie! Thank you for keeping it real Brother Ray Hagins, your testimony is invaluable to our mental liberation. Hotep!

[surfer1104]

Wow... Some people are dumb enough to follow anyone wtthout any rational explanation.

[mjrob1914]

Thank you surfer1104 for you comments. Whom are you referring to?

[hashimbaker7]

I am free mentally, spirituality, and psychologically, Thanks. I have been reading and studying African history for over 15 years. I am reviewing all of your videos and find them to be very liberating. I am in Atlanta Georgia, at this point how to I continued my spiritual growth, is there a church I can attend that is on the same page with your teaching or do I embraced Islam?

[mjrob1914]

Thanks hashimbaker7 for your comments.  Check WBLR for a branch in Atlanta.

[0405KisSy]

The book was published in 1973 but the story within it is thousands of years old. The writing is on the wall in Egypt(KMT). Why would you practice a religion given to enslaved Africans by their oppressors? If the God of their bible was LOVE, then they certainly weren't practicing what they preached!!!

[thalategreat]

0405KisSy hit it right on the nail...couldn't have made his point anymore clearer for those who are misguided/misinformed about what da hell really happened in our historical past...teach dr.hagins teach...

[0405KisSy]

The book was published in 1973, but the story within the book is thousands of years old. The writing is on the wall in Egypt(KMT). Why would you practice a religion given to enslaved Africans by their oppressors? If the God of their bible was LOVE, then they certainly weren't practicing what they preached!!!

[RicoRicanNYC]

The legend of Osiris says he was murdered by his brother Seth and resurrected, with the aid of his wife Isis, thus becoming god of the underworld. This is not the same story of Jesus, sorry. This book was published June 1, 1973. The bible Goes back way past that and has been accurate in prophecy. I'm sorry ill continue to watch and see what else he talks about...

[mjrob1914]

RicoRicanNYC thanks for your comment. What you have to do is study the entire mytholoy of Ausar, Auset and Heru and the similarities between that story that goes back on 10,000 years ago and the Joseph, Mary, Jesus story. I strongly suggest you read "The Worlds Sixteen Crucified Saviors" by Kersey Graves and "Christianity Before Christ" by Dr. John G. Jackson.

For a quick lesson, watch the (DVD) presentation on this channel called "What Shall We Do With Jesus" by Dr. Hagins.

[STARCHYLD77]

the bible as you know came in 1611 with king james it was edited and the stories reconfigured the story of osiris goes back thousands of yrs b4 the bible wich by the way means little book

[freein2339]

The writtings that are written in stone are much older then the Bible and since the Bible is based on these writtings in stone and thru the years the Bible has been altered someone is lying...Who benefits from these lies and who suffers..???

[STARCHYLD77]

adjdesau acted asthough he was fighting against the devil hiself that brother is well indotrinated....even with all the logic you my brothers and sisters handed him he fought for da lawd and his slave ship jesus,lol.

[samir3323]

I have heard what ever you believe happens when you die!

[olh1152]

somebody dead told you that?

[ItrustJesus]

Generally speaking it is human nature for each and every one of us to feel that what we believe is right. I would like everyone commenting not to focus on winning the argument. Let us all focus on sharing whatever information we have with love no matter what race we are. It is my firm belief that we all need healing in on way or another.

[AINTMYAMERICA]

'the bible teaches that egypt is the place of sin"

Thats because the bible is a white supremacist book. The bible is the devils book. The deity of the bible is SATAN who desires ALL MEN to worship him and him only. THis is why "paganism" is flayed and lambasted in the bible. THey teach you that belief in many gods and goddesses is an "abomination" and who you are really sacrificing to are demons. The devil has turned everything on its head. Everything is upside down.

[rjohson]

Why does evry ne always refer to the european jesus as blonde hair and blue eyed, ive never saw a picture of a blond haired blue eyed jesus and im 51 years old. all the pictures of a white jesus that i have seen had brow hair and brown eyes.

[mjrob1914]

thank you for your comment again Rjohnson, please do some more research on the images of Jesus the Christ. You will find images of a Blonde Hair, Blue eyed European male.

[rjohson]

im not denying that there are no blue eyed blond haired representaions of jesus. all im saying is that 99% of the images of jesus potray him with brown hair and brown eyes. but when you hear people criticize the white jesus they describe blue eyed blond hair. i have yet to see one in my 51 years on this earth.

[mjrob1914]

Thanks for admitting that Dr. Hagins is talking about something outside of the circumference of your own awareness. Please do some research and expand your Circumference of Awareness.

[ItrustJesus]

Your right!! I don't know that the Ray Camp is out to deceive, however ,the enemy is. Play close attention to the accusations being presented and the little comments that go along with them to through off the truth.

[mjrob1914]

Dr. Hagins is not throwing off the truth. If you did some research outside of the Helios Biblos and actually study some history, you will find out what he is saying is true. He obviously is speaking of something that is outside of the circumference of your own awareness.

[vairocana23]

It never ceases to amaze me how people are willing to argue against and intelligent Black man like Pastor Hagins but will accept the similar statements from a Caucasian researcher or scholar especially if that white individual is from Oxford, Harvard or Yale University.

[ItrustJesus]

Why can't we focus on sharing information and lay off the whole black and white thing. Do you say each race has their own god?? If the Bible is untrue, then are you also saying is is no supreme God (the creator of all mankind)? What do you think. The message is including people of African decent but excluding everyone else. Where do other races fit in in your theory?

[mjrob1914]

We are sharing information. Race comes into play because Europeans created it going back to the middle 1400's. We didn't do this. If you actually study history and culture, you'll find that each culture has their own concept of the creator. Their religions or spiritual systems come out of their culture.

It was African people that 1st gave the world God consciousness.

[standforchange08]

Couldn't agree with you more mjrob! Europeans just don't get it.

[bxlunar]

the bible and koran were created by the european. look at who enslaved you. what did they look like? who whipped, maimed and murdered our ancestors ? when master was putting that rope around their neck to hang them, he prayed to jesus that the rope wouldn't break. when the muslims were killing off the men and castrating them and raping the women,like they still do, it is allah they pray to for prosperity in that endeavor. WAKE UP.

[ajdesau]

paul is seeking to describe what that past event in history concerning the two children means concerning jews, gentiles and the covenant. your statement concerning the textss in galatians is wildly irresponsible in exegesis. in fact a clear reading can lead one to believe that your statement is incorrect. you are stretching the limits in seeking to disprove the bible.

[mjrob1914]

It's not a stretch at all. You just haven't figured out what you are dealing with. Please view the video, "The Incredibility of the Bible and It's Falsehoods". However, if you are European, Never Mind. Keep believing in Jesus.

[ItrustJesus]

The message of truth applies to all creation. It is apparent to me that we should love one another. What matter is it what nationality or race you belong to. Stop the exclusion and promote inclusion. What do you say to the white, chinese, and black brother. We are all related.

[mjrob1914]

Itrust Jesus, thanks for your comment. Please do your research. By this I mean study history especially our story. Africans have always focused on inclusion. It was the European who focused on exclusion. Yes we are all related. The difference is everyone else has their culture and history intact except African-Americans. This is why we are in the condition we are in.

Please watch the rest of the video before you make more comments.

[primemeridium]

WE came out of ancient KMT and we shall return to her, as it was then so shall it be known, my beloved ancient kmt, many have lovedu, but they done it in vain, for no one can love you more then us the moors, morenos, latinos, for we are all one,

[sunofwill]

Eye commend Pastor Hagins for his courage and transition from an ultra-level of higher learning, that greatly expanded his perimeters of awareness, and his commitment to teach others of his testimony and his expertise...

[1gregmichael]

Why has it taken soooo long for the "black man" to attain this knowledge? ALL of religion came from Sumeria. Christianity IS based on Egyptian fundamentality. Christ was in fact Osirus.

[drawup]

The egyptian"Kemitic" name was Heru, the Greeks called him Osirus.

[drawup]

Egyptian"Kemitic" name was Heru. The Greeks called him Osirus. We need to look ancient Egyp as Kemet. Amen RA

[mjrob1914]

Actually, the Greeks called Heru, "Horus". The called Ausar, "Osiris" who was the father of Horus and they called Auset, "Isis".

[sanchozpipas]

Where does the Annunaki and Niburu play into all this? and why wouldn't that be included in the holy bible, or is it?

[mjrob1914]

Sanchozpipas, what about the Annunaki? What are you asking?

[1gregmichael]

Let me make this clear: Africa has been exploited by the Europeaners for Aeons.

[Yahhelpme]

What is your method of research in a systematic way. I really like your facts...and they are very daunting. What is your take on the so called white pharoahs or images that are dressed like egyptians in certain artifacts.

[Yahhelpme]

what is you alls take on the white looking egyptians they claim are pharoahs within the tombs...? The theory is Nubians over ran white egypt and thats why blacks are pharoahs.

[kemeticlady]

Ok, I love Dr. Ray. He was the one who enlightened me. He will be in Dayton Oh on Nov 12, 2008. My non-profit is collab'ing with a group out of Xenia to bring him.

[yaboicash]

PASTOR RAY HAGINS IS THE TRUTH!!!

[ajdesau]

looking at the sun in the sky does not offer proof. secondly, at best all you have provided is an alternative explanation for the events and stories of the bible. you have used weak inductive arguments to supply an answer for the stories of the bible and you have in no way discounted. also sun worship is idolatry not science. so if the bible condemns idolatry that doesn't mean it condemns science.

[muambila]

Today Europeans are referring on several occasions on Rome and antik Greece. So I don't see why Africans shouldn't refer to Kemet.

And ajdesau if you're black (who cares anyway) you obviously ignore a lot about your own history. Because if you knew you wouldn't be saying "...which by the way he is speaking of egypt not africa. egyptian belief is not the belief of every african culture.."

Well Brainwashing is a hell of a thing, lol.

[muambila]

The historical evidence for what Dr Hagins is saying is actually in Egypt.

You can even visit and see for yourself.

Plus what he's saying is not only written in this book. What Pastor Hagins is saying is nothing new (obviously it's new for you ajdesau ).

You're attacking BIGBKEl saying where is the proof?! What is the "Historical backing for the Bible"?????? What is your proof???

[ajdesau]

so it is exactly these kind of women god would use that he might show his grace toward us sinners just as they were. youre seeking so hard to disprove the bible, that you miss the message. there are no contradictions here. and if you are truly investigating and not merely trying to win an argument i ask you to present me with the problems that give you trouble in accepting the truth of christ, and i'd be happy to aid you in understanding where i can. jesus is the way, truth and life. god bless.

[ajdesau]

finally where your summaries of the stories were correct the characters of the women 1)has nothing to do with the genealogy recorded in matthew and 2)it is exactly these woman that god chose that he might show his grace, mercy and love in redemption: man has no inherent good virtue or quality to commend himself to god, but its ok, because god still saves and uses the chief of sinners. god demonstrates his love for us in that while we were yet sinners christ died for us (romans 5:8).

[ajdesau]

i would first suggest that you don't have a strong exegetical method in understanding these texts, which is why you conceive of contradictions. secondly, including four women in a man's birth is not a contradiction at all. we all have many women included in our birth, that is how genealogies work. there will be many women listed. it does not say that one man was born to four different women. secondly your summations of these events were not all quite right.

[ajdesau]

you are forgetting the gospels. the gospels provide historical evidence for jesus. people so quickly want to discount the gospels and look to extra biblical sources without offering any reasons as to why we are to disallow the gospels as historical records. they are four independent sources that speak of jesus. and then josephus, tacitus, and pliny the younger allude to christ either directly or indirectly. and yes there is speculation, but there is enough there to testify to the gospel claims.

[mjrob1914]

Ajdesau, the Gospels don't actually offer proof on the existence of Jesus the Christ. When you study history and the formulation of the Bible, you will understand that is literature and not history. It is told in allegory and in parables.

Please view the video I recently posted on entitled "The Greatest Story Ever Told".

Also please read Galatians 4:22 - 4:24 which tells you the story of Abraham, Isaac, etc. is an allegory, which means it wasn't real. Neither Abraham nor Jesus existed.

[ajdesau]

the gospels do not at all function as mere literature, but as historical records of past events. read "Jesus and the Eyewitnesses". no scholar in the field of new testament excuses the gospels as mere literature. 1st century jewish literary styles do not resemble the writing in the gospels.

secondly allegory is not synonymous with mythical, and paul does not use it as such. you should more carefully exegete that text before commenting on it.

[mjrob1914]

You should really study the definition of what an Allegory is. It is symbolic and the cannot be interpreted literally. Study Arius Calpurnius Piso to find out the true author of the New Testament. Paul never historically existed neither did anyone in the Bible.

Did you ever ask yourself why haven't they found one grave of anyone who lived in the Bible? Did you ever ask yourself how could Jesus be born in 4 B.C. and B.C means before Christ. He can't be born 4 years before he was born.

[ajdesau]

you can't be serious about the birth of jesus comment. first of all the birth of jesus is not exactly known (concerning the year). second of all the dating system is a system formulated by a man centuries after jesus. his desginations have no bearing on the reality of jesus as his birth. and no i'm not european, and yes i will keep believing in jesus. you certainly have not presented any compelling evidence that would make me believe otherwise.

[cmptrwhiz]

who are those scholars? who put a stamp on the bible? The same ones who attended the conf at nicea? Present FACTS other than the garbage in the bible about jesus and you might have a conversation. It is agreed that the bible is pure hogwash, garbage and should be used a toilet paper. The same with the euro stories of god,jesus,satan, santa, etc... African mythology became euro christianity in order to steal the gold and authority from the every day person. Sick trick that still works.

[ajdesau]

in fact the definition of an allegory means the exact opposite of what you are implying it means. biblical speaking, allegories work through actual and concrete realities to represent greater spiritual truths concerning god and his revelation that may not have been understood, which is why paul is explaining it to the galatians who did not understand what it meant to be members of the covenant family of god.

[mjrob1914]

That's not what an allegory is. You are being misled by the commentary in Strong's Concordian which was later written to cover up what is revealed in Galatians 4:22 - 4:24. We must understand that the Helios Biblos was never written with the intent of most people reading it. When you actually read it and analyze it, it's the one of the most inconsistent books ever written.

[ajdesau]

that is not proof at all. i perceive you to be a human being of intelligence, and surely you know that people are not satisfied with evidence and proof that is based on loose assumptions and ambiguous links and connections, that are also speculative. secondly the bible doesn't discourage science and its practice. in fact science helps validate the bible. sun worship, which is idolatry, is not equivalent to science. therefore condemning it would not be condemning scientific practice.

[ajdesau]

and if you intend on discounting the new testament and the authenticity of christ, presenting speculative explanation to the events does not prove anything. it rather only offers, at best, an alternative explanation to the events. it does not however discount or discredit the other explanations that exist along side of, which by the way are better. and the best and indeed the true explanation is found in the new testament.

[ajdesau]

well no you have not offered proof of any kind. you've offered a string of speculation in weak, inductive argumentation. if you study logic at all you will find that what you have offered would not suffice in a scholarly field of debate. also i have nothing to do with the pope or catholicism ,which is not christianity. i follow christ and his word as set forth in the bible. if you want to prove something you are going to have to discount the records of the new testament.

[ajdesau]

you have not offered anything contrary to what i have written. i never said that other cultures have no significance to others. however not all cultures adhere fully with others. likewise not all african cultures are set in the egyptian tradition, so the many blacks who argue for it may not have even descended from such a tradition of ideology. secondly i would challenge you to work on some or your logic, which has been weak and in some cases fallacious. seek jesus, who is the christ! thanks.

[ajdesau]

it really matters not what they called it. it is not empirically and undeniably understood to be evidenced as proof, therefore it is a belief system. you are merely arguing semantics. however this black liberation movement is setting it forth as some transcendental truth, esp. against christianity. so on what basis do you argue that. with speculation? you will need more than that.

[ajdesau]

it seems as though you have taken phrases directly out of reuchlins book. i would ask you to do some real research though. i'm sure you know that every book you pick up is not correct simply because someone who is "educated" has written it. almost no one in the scholarly community even acknowledges the book to refute what it sets forth. this whole "piso" thing is set in a series of aliases and speculation. i would ask people to research actual roman records to support these claims.

[ajdesau]

you haven't given anything as far as proof whatsoever. this is a weak inductive argument, with a series of non-sequiturs as propositions. you can take that kind of logic and generate almost any conclusion you wish. speculative coincidence is not proof for or against anything. it's a neat fabrication but it stands diametrical opposed to the jesus christ, who is indeed a person, that is historical seen in the gospels as well as other independent contemporary historical records.

[Yahhelpme]

You were standing on two feet for a moment...but then you bowed to belief...the very thing you are accusing this person with. Where you went wrong...is holding to your core fundementalist beliefs that every child is taught. "Jesus loves me this I know cause the bible tells us so"that is historical seen in the gospels as well as other independent contemporary historical records. The argument the bible says so isn't the issue with you but its actually having proof...and evidence.

[truthsettea]

His purpose in life is to enlighten with the Truth. The Truth doesn't need any help...it can stand alone by itself. Why are you so upset any way? Go and research these facts for yourself, before you spread your masters negative vibes/lies. Go and research your holy bible.Who wrote your holy bible and the characters in it. Who was queen james or as you know him king james. Your bible says SEARCH the scriptures not read them.

Know the Truth and the Truth shall make you FREE.

HOTEP Pastor Ray!

[ajdesau]

ninth, what exactly is your purpose in life in teaching these things?

p.s. i am a black man, and i feel that black people have harbored so much bitterness due to slavery (which is interesting because none of you were ever in slavery), that you speak these things out of anger. the truth is found in the holy bible. jesus christ is the way the truth and the life and no one comes to the true god except through him. i ask anyone who holds to these teachings to repent. i will be praying for you.

[carla31brown]

WE now live in the time of information before you judge do your homework.The same race of people that hate us gave us the bible there is this book called 50 questions every christian should ask themselves about the bible by barbarele kenyatta far as slavery yes i am angery because white person can trace there family tree back to ireland being robbed of culture and self is sick thing to do to a race of people.

[ajdesau]

what people hate you? do you know who wrote the bible? the bible was written by jewish people. do the jews hate blacks? why do you keep referring to europeans? they didn't write the bible. secondly, you were not in slavery. thirdly, black people have not been the only people in the history of time to undergo slavery. on what basis do you feel the right to keep being angry. strive for love, which is something christ taught. clearly that's one idea "the white man" didn't steal from the egyptians.

[Yahhelpme]

The Jewish people today its already proven aren't biologically connected to the people in the bible. They are in fact germans who took hold of Judaism. The so called Jewish government was invented, colonized. Even So called Jewish people know this. That is another red flag. OR I should say Yellow in which caused me to slow down a bit in these churches.

[durango64]

we are descendants of slaves who were treated worse than your fake azz JEW-WISH (ISH) HOLOCAUST ... MORE OF OUR PEOPLE DIED THAN YOURS EVEN THOUGH YOUR PEOPLE KILLED YOUR OWN ,... i laugh at u cause as u do it will be done unto u

[ajdesau]

what ever gave you the impression that i am jewish. i am actually a black man myself. and i am a christian. and these teaching are blasphemous and unfounded. he is putting together many non-sequiturs. he has not empirically proven that these ideas were stolen. secondly you have not responded to the fact that jews, not europeans, wrote the bible. finally the bible is based on historical fact, not a previous story. don't compare stories, match the bible up with the actual events that happened.

[Yahhelpme]

"secondly you have not responded to the fact that jews, not europeans". Sorry but this is an oxymoron. Because the Jews of today are european...germanic of origin. Many ethnic groups claim to be Jews...or Israelites.

[APADEMAK]

Sankofa brother. What we have adapted from the European isn't advancing us. We need our own & there's nothing wrong with viewing the world from OUR perspective. No apologies for reclaiming our practices & ways of thinking.

HTP

[SeanD44]

We also need to reclaim our lands and artifacts...and natural resources so that we can rise economically as well as spiritually.

[Yahhelpme]

Basic knowlege in which any bible scholar will let you know is that the KJV...isn't all the manuscripts and isn't the original content that many claim. It has been rewritten more than once. And, within the scriptures is even idolatry that most christians claim to shun...such as easter. If that isn't an red flag, or even christmass. Even these aren't red flags then. Many so called christians do not study and many do not even have a literate compacity to do so...thats why they say my pastor said".

[ajdesau]

...i'm also pretty sure you all did not originate from egypt, which then what dr. hagins is "teaching" bears no significance to you.

eighth, this belief system is very exclusive, what is the hope for everyone else. or is what you believe right for you and everyone else just do there own thing. if that's the case, you again enter into an issue of truth, where all things cannot be true.

[APADEMAK]

Hotep, What Dr. Hagins in speaking on is the Re-Africanization of blacks in America as WE have taken on & been ingrained with european thoughts, ideas, doctrines, etc... As far as being "exclusive" well, Africa for Africans, we have a right to worship our deities, use our culture & practices the way we feel. We are not asking you to think like an African does, though the principles of Ma'at are applicable worldwide. Htp

[ajdesau]

seventh, why do you harp so against the "white man" under who's democratic society you have been educated, under who government you are allowed to speak these things freely? why not return to africa where you can worship your ancestors and you need to speak out against the white man. why even argue against the bible. just go back to africa, which by the way he is speaking of egypt not africa. egyptian belief is not the belief of every african culture...

[ajdesau]

sixth, where is the historical evidence for what this man is saying. he has given a series of unsupported interpretations of egyptian history from a book that was written in the 20th century, by a white man no less. the bible as actually historical backing for its stories. and as for jesus there is actual manuscript evidence for those who lived in his time to support its historical accuracy. these things about osiris are mere speculation and problematic interpretations.

[ajdesau]

fourthly, to the few who have exalted dr. hagins as the truth, etc...jesus christ is the way, the truth and the life (john 14:6). and he rose from the dead. on what basis do you call anything else the truth? a slide show is not enough to disprove the word of god.

fifthly, if this whole thing is correct, your belief system seems very exclusive, where is the hope for everyone else?

[ajdesau]

thirdly, how is it that you rail against the "white man" and europeans. from whom did they come? did they not come from your supposed true and real african god? the blame then falls upon your supposed god. is he not all powerful, is he not the one who created the white man who you strive against? or does the white man have his own god? which then there would be a problem, because then that means somebody is incorrect, for there cannot be many truths. so what makes you right?

[ajdesau]

im curious as to why you all are so against the bible which was written by "the white man" but you have no problem accepting the writings of the book "osiris", which was written by a white man (e.a. wallis budge). why?

secondly, are the many black people who accept this "teaching" all from an egyptian lineage? you are constantly going back to this egyptian history as african teaching, but africa has several different countries and ethnic groups and they do not coincide with egyptian beliefs

[sunkingakhenaten]

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Anybody know about ancient kemetic music?

[DFWOODSII]

Dr. Hagins is the Truth in Human Form...

[sublimityeternal]

To each his own mensamaterial.

[mensamaterial]

I'm wide awake...I understand that there are a lot of copycat religions...but Jesus is the real deal...also, Jesus' earthly ministry was in the middle east...no euros were involved..my point was Hagins needs to seperate his euro speak from the message and life of Jesus...the enemy is using your sensitivity to your race to deceive you...I will pray for all of you to see the truth.

[blackadam06]

1st of all, go do your historical research on the 1st Council of Nicea 325 AD, to see how they CREATED this character. "THEN" talk to me or anyone else regarding Jesus being the "Real Deal" as you put it.

You'd see how utterly RIDICULOUS you sound with that crap. You're just as in denial & deaf, dumb & blind as "church folk" when it comes to the FACTS of the matter..Your comments PROVE that.

Ignoring the facts DOESN'T change 'em..

[blackadam06]

It AMAZES me that even in the face of IRREFUTABLE FACTS, people like you KEEP trying to find ways around the FACTS & claim they mean something OTHER than what they're CLEARLY indicating! LOL!!

MEMO: THE ENTIRE THING WAS PLAGIARIZED!! The FACTS, along with ALL of the NUMEROUS contradictions found in the Bible, PROVES IT!!

The Bible isn't the "Infallible Word Of God"..FAR FROM IT! It's the FALLIBLE word of MEN, who thru their OWN creed, have ADMITTED as such..Research it for yourself!!

[blackadam06]

I BELIEVE WHOLE HEARTEDLY in the concept of the 1 ALL POWERFUL GOD..How can I wake up & see a Sun Rise or a Sun Set & "NOT" believe that there's some Awesome Force behind that..

I'd be CRAZY to overlook that..

[orisha96]

True, I believe in one supreme being,and I think thats something must people can understand and relate to. But islam and christianity is looking real suspision to me. The more I learn about them, the more it seems like these religions, and other religions like it, were created to take advantage and brainwash people rather then help. Much respect to Ray Hagins.

[ItrustJesus]

I agree 100%--the ememy is crafty and trying to use the issue of race to deceive many. I believe we are approaching the end times and Satan is out to deceive even the elect. I pray that all who are searching to know God receive revelation of God our creator and receive the reward of eternal life through Christ Jesus. I wish nothing but love to all who read this.

[mjrob1914]

ItrustJesus, thanks for the compliment. Please continue to watch the videos I am posting so you can learn the truth. Do your research of history and the Bible to see the inconsistencies. Watch "The Subliminal Seduction of Holiday Celebrations by Dr. Ray Hagins.

[jneroo226]

Satan does not exist.

[carla31brown]

did you ever go the library and check out what he said

[mjrob1914]

Carla31brown, thanks for your response. Who were you talking to when you said "Did you ever go to the library and check out what he said?".

Which information or statement(s) were you referring to?

[mensamaterial]

you're hatred for white euro people has you confused...the bible never said Jesus was blonde and blue-eyed...it's not the white man who has you in a chokehold...it's the devil...Jesus alone is the way and the truth...not some dead egyptian little "g" god...

[mjrob1914]

Who said anything about hating Europeans. I don't hate Europeans and neither does Pastor Ray Hagins. It is quite the contrary. There developed an intense hatred of African people over hundreds of years of Africans occupying the Iberian Pennisula (Spain and Portugal), Sicily, Italy, Germany, etc. You really need to watch the rest of the video and study history. I am assuming you don't know that there are dozens of similarities between Jesus and the other crucified saviors. Wake up.