Penn and Teller were outright disrespectful to Rene, no doubt a legend in the hoax community. They constantly went out of their way to poke fun at him and insult him. Hopefully the two may some day see the error of their ways and personally and publicly apologize to Rene's family and friends.
More than anything, they hurt themselves. Nobody can take their garbage seriously anymore. Maybe someday, their fame will run out and they will just be two more morons.
@yesiamawizardjonny Of course they poked fun at him, he was a hopelessly deluded old fool. It's truly astonishing that anyone took him seriously as a scientist and engineer (two titles for which he held no formal degree). Ralph claimed the currently accepted value for pi was wrong! Saying something like that is roughly equivalent to claiming the sodium in the worlds oceans is actually phosphorus. People who stubbornly bear claims of this ridiculous magnitude are unworthy of respect.
I know it's the polite way of saying it, but Rene didn't really pass away... His death was violent... You think of passing away as dying in your sleep or something.
Mr. White, you are wasting your time. Ralph Rene' was a hopelessly deluded cynical old man. His highest scholastic accomplishment was millwright apprenticeship. His incompetence as a scientist and engineer are glarinly obvious. He was a racist who referred to his own mother as; "that fucking cunt". Save yourself the embarrassment and move on to constructive avocations.
Yep. Here's a theory; Jarrah has invested an huge amount of time, energy, and above all, ego in his position. He probably began with a sincere belief, founded in ignorance, that the landings really were faked. As he got further into the details of Apollo (and especially as others have patiently explained his errors in great detail) he must have begun to have second thoughts. But by then it was much too late. He had already committed himself publicly, and there is no turning back.
@bddc201 NASA is run by faggy masons who suck media jew cock. The moon landings are so utterly fake its not even worth debating. Knew it 20 years ago. You are a cocksucking fuckhead.
@Hellenbach13 I have no idea how to even respond to that comment. You personally know NASA employees and that they are indeed members of the masonic order? I knew Ralph personally and can tell you directly that he was a deluded old fool. He wouldn't even let Jewish doctors treat him.
@bddc201 Jew doctors are the leading cause of death of Americans. I call it extermination, the death rate is so high. Ralph was spot on with that. Jew doctors should be lined up and shot, along with jew lawyers. All the original astronauts were freemasons. Ask Neil, dipshitz.
@bddc201 hey asshole, you didnt know Ralph, you are a pathological lying kike, as usual, Even if you did, what YOU say is hearsay, and "I object". Rlaph was spot on fuckhead. Your response isnt necessary
@receiver69 wrong, there are plenty of researchers who back up Ralph's claims, NASA couldnt even defend themselves on FOXs TV program. You are just another brainwashed idiot. saying Ralph is a 'construction worker" is a non sequitor.
@Hellenbach13 You're wrong, I was a guest in Ralph's home many times and worked in his shop. Ralph was a millwright and little more. His claims of engineering were just that; claims. Ralph didn't even understand basic metallurgy! The more I got to know him the more I realized he was a hopelessly deluded old fool. Ralph ended his miserable life with a shotgun in his dingy little trailer home just west of Scottsburg, Indiana. Thankfully, he didn't take anyone with him.
@bddc201 Prove it asshole. Even if you were, which you werent, there is plenty of others research, including my own. Everything about it is fake. Apollo moon missions are an impossibility, but nut jobs like you think aliens are also visiting the planet. The evidence is in the photographs and is mostly common sense, dipshitz.
@bddc201 everything you say is hearsay, you can say anything you want on the internet. You lying sack of shit. Hppw about a photograph, and IF you were there, you would be Ops, and suspect in his murder, ay ?
@Hellenbach13 What do you mean by "Ops"? Ralph's death was clearly a suicide, he sent a bunch of people postcards telling them goodbye. I never took a photo of Ralph or his shop. I really don't have a stake in proving I knew a deluded racist who overstated his engineering qualifications. I met Ralph through one of his doctors who happened to be a close friend. Ralph needed a skilled machinist for a fire supression invention he was contemplating. Do you see me claiming I know anyone else here?
@bddc201 hey dirtbag, anybody can send post cards. If you didnt like the guy so much, why were you around ? You need to have some respect for someone who suffered by telling the truth. And he is right, jews cannot be trusted. Photos and video, or you are a liar.
@bddc201 what you are telling me is you were at Ralph's house, after you sent out post cards of Ralph "killing himself", then you murdered him with a shot gun and called it a "suicide". Then you come onto you tube with such zealotry against a man who suffered to cover your tracks. You murdered Ralph, didn't you? You are HIGHLY suspect ! Where are your pictures and video of Ralph? You lying sack of shit !
@spacehopperballs Thats correct, they whine like the bitches that they are, because they can never put up the facts in evidence. All they do is insult, because the cunts know they dont have a leg to stand on.
Your series? Oh dear. I've just watched those two. You're as deluded as the old man. What is it that is missing from your life that you have to spend so much time and effort on this silly conspiracy theory?
Are you really the grandson of the old man? Does the term "indoctrinated" mean anything to you? Or "brainwashed"? You know they made a film about this many years ago - you didn't watch it when you were a kid and thought it was real, did you?
This is all about JW Studios trying to make money off a delusional dead twat.
For example:
"My "Unproof of Newtonian Gravity" was one of my first. Using the Newtonian Formula... I found that during New Moon, the Sun's attraction for the Moon Is almost 3 times that of the Earth. Therefore, once every month the Moon, obeying the stronger force, should cease orbiting the Earth and head toward the Sun. It doesn't! "
@Hellenbach13 And the recent photographs of footprints on the moon are also faked, of course. How does it feel to realise what you - and Mr Rene - believed all these years is total rubbish! Poor you. Have a nice day.
@BusterBloodvessel HEY DIPSHITZ, THERE ARE NO RECENT PHOTOGRAPHS OF FOOTPRINTS , WHAT KIND OF RESEARCH IS THAT ? WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR FACTS? MTV ? HOPE YOU HAVE SHIITTY WEEK, YOU CUNT WHORE
If you're going to complain about Rene's use of the term "gas-bags" (which he applied to individuals who opposed him but offered no foundations for their claims against him), then what about the language of certain individuals from the pro-NASA side
beautiful selection, am gonna look for it... just listened to your intervirww from 2008 with "whispers" people, all hillbillies, only one even thought it was possible that nasa mightve faked it here but they did go to moon too .... the chick was a ditz, the other guy was sheep material ... you sounded great as usual and they grasped nothing
i remember watching a tV show where they went out of thei absolute way to bash renee unfairly. Then I got to see the actual man tell his ENTIRE STORY right here first hand without edits thanks to jarrah. Thanks Jarrah and thank you ralph.
People who stick blindlly with what they are spoon-fed by authority never make any important contributions to society/humanity.
Only those brave enough to question things do. Rene wasn't all right all of the time, but along the way he DID pose some intriguing points and create fresh angles of view on commonly accepted notions.
With people only like you, troll Airbuzz, we'd all be still chiseling flint axes in caves, is rather more to the point.
I'm glad you admit Rene wasn't all right all of the time although that's a "slight" understatement. I'm all for fresh angles, but Renés angles were not fresh and hardly even angles. It was more some childish protest that no doubt had it's roots in Renés poorly hidden inferiority complex.
No one's all right all of the time, not even the great Jay Utah, AB.
And yes, I'm sure you're all for fresh angles - just as long as they don't interfere with the world as you've been "educated" into accepting without question , is absolutely real.
No scientific theory is set in stone forever, fresh avenues of thinking are challenging them daily. But somehow it's uniquely satisfying to know that you, with your elitist intellectual fascism, will never come close to producing one of them.
I've certainly not been educated to accept without questioning, quite the opposite in fact. The very foundation of scientific work is that it must be falsifiable. THAT'S what I've been taught. However, you have to base your questioning on actual, and I do mean actual... Research. Not just plain assumption which seems to be what René based his theories on. He made the most random claims. Entertaining reading, but totally useless.
Something which is deemed falsifiable today may well be brought into question and even superseded in the future by what is considered "useless" by the closed minds of today.
The history of science is littered with examples
Your stance, just as with the closed minds of yesteryear, is that there is no truth beyond that which you have personally agreed to accept in the light of your present education.
You cannot, nor will not venture outside that limited box to entertain any other possibilities.
I don't understand what you're saying. All scientific theories are subject to questioning, but that doesn't mean that you can discard them with the premise that you find them weird and therefore they can't be correct. You have to prove them wrong, that's the idea. When René doubted scientific theories based on his lack of understanding it doesn't make an impact. If you would board a rocket programmed with Rene's alternative theories for gravity and Pi and blast into space I would be impressed.
Rene obviously never claimed rockets ought not to be able to launch because scientists and engineers were using the wrong theory or estimated value for Pi.
So, what was he Actually saying about Pi, and also gravity... I doubt you bothered to seriously enquire.
michaelstmark, he didn't need to claim any such thing outright. If Pi is wrong, then ALL rocket science is flawed; therefore no rockets would work. Also it would be quite impossible to plan rocket trajectories if Newton's laws were wrong.
"How can Pi be right or wrong" If I say Pi=2. I am wrong. If Ralph Rene were to have said Pi= EXACTLY 3.146264, then he would be wrong. And also I'd like to say Pi is not in fact an infinitely recurring estimated value. It's an irrational number that has been calculated to at least two million places. Calculated, NOT estimated.
Pi, as an irrational number, has an infinitely-long string of digits. It's infinite, but not random. The string is exactly determined without ambiguity.
@Airbuzz you are an idiot, thats all Rene' did, was research not this typical jewishesque mocking and insults because they know THEY DONT HAVE A LEG TO STAND ON.
Penn and Teller were outright disrespectful to Rene, no doubt a legend in the hoax community. They constantly went out of their way to poke fun at him and insult him. Hopefully the two may some day see the error of their ways and personally and publicly apologize to Rene's family and friends.
More than anything, they hurt themselves. Nobody can take their garbage seriously anymore. Maybe someday, their fame will run out and they will just be two more morons.
yesiamawizardjonny 6 months ago
@yesiamawizardjonny what would expect from a pair of fruity old kikes?
Hellenbach13 4 months ago
@yesiamawizardjonny Of course they poked fun at him, he was a hopelessly deluded old fool. It's truly astonishing that anyone took him seriously as a scientist and engineer (two titles for which he held no formal degree). Ralph claimed the currently accepted value for pi was wrong! Saying something like that is roughly equivalent to claiming the sodium in the worlds oceans is actually phosphorus. People who stubbornly bear claims of this ridiculous magnitude are unworthy of respect.
bddc201 4 months ago
I know it's the polite way of saying it, but Rene didn't really pass away... His death was violent... You think of passing away as dying in your sleep or something.
It's horribly sad. he was a great man.
yesiamawizardjonny 6 months ago
Mr. White, you are wasting your time. Ralph Rene' was a hopelessly deluded cynical old man. His highest scholastic accomplishment was millwright apprenticeship. His incompetence as a scientist and engineer are glarinly obvious. He was a racist who referred to his own mother as; "that fucking cunt". Save yourself the embarrassment and move on to constructive avocations.
bddc201 8 months ago
@bddc201
Yep. Here's a theory; Jarrah has invested an huge amount of time, energy, and above all, ego in his position. He probably began with a sincere belief, founded in ignorance, that the landings really were faked. As he got further into the details of Apollo (and especially as others have patiently explained his errors in great detail) he must have begun to have second thoughts. But by then it was much too late. He had already committed himself publicly, and there is no turning back.
receiver69 8 months ago
@receiver69 Yes, and I think he is making money by re-printing Ralph's books. No reason to shut off the income stream.
bddc201 4 months ago
@bddc201 NASA is run by faggy masons who suck media jew cock. The moon landings are so utterly fake its not even worth debating. Knew it 20 years ago. You are a cocksucking fuckhead.
Hellenbach13 4 months ago
@Hellenbach13 I have no idea how to even respond to that comment. You personally know NASA employees and that they are indeed members of the masonic order? I knew Ralph personally and can tell you directly that he was a deluded old fool. He wouldn't even let Jewish doctors treat him.
bddc201 4 months ago
@bddc201 Jew doctors are the leading cause of death of Americans. I call it extermination, the death rate is so high. Ralph was spot on with that. Jew doctors should be lined up and shot, along with jew lawyers. All the original astronauts were freemasons. Ask Neil, dipshitz.
Hellenbach13 4 months ago
@bddc201 hey asshole, you didnt know Ralph, you are a pathological lying kike, as usual, Even if you did, what YOU say is hearsay, and "I object". Rlaph was spot on fuckhead. Your response isnt necessary
Hellenbach13 4 months ago
@Hellenbach13
I'm afraid Bddc201 is right. However... I'm not afraid.
receiver69 4 months ago
@receiver69 wrong.
Hellenbach13 4 months ago
@Hellenbach13
You're right. I was wrong. I am not afraid. Bdcc201 is right.
receiver69 4 months ago
@Hellenbach13
Ralph René was a construction worker. He's just making all that hogwash and moon hoax nonsense up.
receiver69 4 months ago
@receiver69 wrong, there are plenty of researchers who back up Ralph's claims, NASA couldnt even defend themselves on FOXs TV program. You are just another brainwashed idiot. saying Ralph is a 'construction worker" is a non sequitor.
Hellenbach13 4 months ago
@Hellenbach13 You're wrong, I was a guest in Ralph's home many times and worked in his shop. Ralph was a millwright and little more. His claims of engineering were just that; claims. Ralph didn't even understand basic metallurgy! The more I got to know him the more I realized he was a hopelessly deluded old fool. Ralph ended his miserable life with a shotgun in his dingy little trailer home just west of Scottsburg, Indiana. Thankfully, he didn't take anyone with him.
bddc201 4 months ago
@bddc201 Prove it asshole. Even if you were, which you werent, there is plenty of others research, including my own. Everything about it is fake. Apollo moon missions are an impossibility, but nut jobs like you think aliens are also visiting the planet. The evidence is in the photographs and is mostly common sense, dipshitz.
Hellenbach13 4 months ago
@Hellenbach13 You're demanding I prove that I knew Ralph Rene'? Can't say I'm really proud of it, but it is indeed true.
bddc201 4 months ago
@bddc201
May be Hellenbach has a bible, to swear on...?
receiver69 4 months ago
@receiver69 Ill swear and spit on the talmud. How about photos ? Right, you dont have any . . .
Hellenbach13 4 months ago
@Hellenbach13
Wrong again. Don't make a habit of being wrong, please.
Yes, I have photos. Thousands.
receiver69 4 months ago
@receiver69 excellent, make a you tube video, dipshitz. You are a liar.
Hellenbach13 4 months ago
@Hellenbach13
I don't have to make a video. There are hundreds already. What would you like to see? This is YouTube, you know...
receiver69 4 months ago
@bddc201 everything you say is hearsay, you can say anything you want on the internet. You lying sack of shit. Hppw about a photograph, and IF you were there, you would be Ops, and suspect in his murder, ay ?
Hellenbach13 4 months ago
@Hellenbach13 What do you mean by "Ops"? Ralph's death was clearly a suicide, he sent a bunch of people postcards telling them goodbye. I never took a photo of Ralph or his shop. I really don't have a stake in proving I knew a deluded racist who overstated his engineering qualifications. I met Ralph through one of his doctors who happened to be a close friend. Ralph needed a skilled machinist for a fire supression invention he was contemplating. Do you see me claiming I know anyone else here?
bddc201 4 months ago
@bddc201 hey dirtbag, anybody can send post cards. If you didnt like the guy so much, why were you around ? You need to have some respect for someone who suffered by telling the truth. And he is right, jews cannot be trusted. Photos and video, or you are a liar.
Hellenbach13 4 months ago
@Hellenbach13 You didn't explain what "Ops" is.
bddc201 4 months ago
@bddc201 what you are telling me is you were at Ralph's house, after you sent out post cards of Ralph "killing himself", then you murdered him with a shot gun and called it a "suicide". Then you come onto you tube with such zealotry against a man who suffered to cover your tracks. You murdered Ralph, didn't you? You are HIGHLY suspect ! Where are your pictures and video of Ralph? You lying sack of shit !
Hellenbach13 4 months ago
@Hellenbach13 LOL! You're a real piece of work! Is everything a conspiracy theory to you? BTW, what does Ops mean?
bddc201 4 months ago
@Hellenbach13
"Ops"
- watch a lot of CSI, do you?
LOL
receiver69 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@receiver69 you are just another lying kike, go fuck yourself. You have no soul.
Hellenbach13 4 months ago
So what
We still didn't land on the moon.
All you guys can do is ridicule and insult
thats why you always lose the discussion.
spacehopperballs 1 year ago
@spacehopperballs You the one caught in the time warp, get a grip.
Warthog1976 1 year ago
@Warthog1976
Barn storming to walking on the moon in 40 years? thats what they told us.....
So what have they done in the 40 years since?
pissing about a few hundred miles up in a glorified plane....??
half a million miles 7 times with out a scratch yet how many kiled in the shuttle a few hundred miles up.
The shuttle in a context of apollo is pure nonsense - or no wait a minute?
Maybe its apollo thats bollocks.
If your not cointelpro.and you can't see it - I feel sorry for you.
spacehopperballs 1 year ago
@spacehopperballs Thats correct, they whine like the bitches that they are, because they can never put up the facts in evidence. All they do is insult, because the cunts know they dont have a leg to stand on.
Hellenbach13 4 months ago
Watch Penn & Teller taking the piss out of this twat. What a pity he's dead - I'd like to personally tell him he was a deluded old fool.
BusterBloodvessel 2 years ago
I have repeatedly debunked that Penn & Teller episode throughout my series.
watch?v=4AQQHTjeMkA
watch?v=SMdYqldrlqE
WhiteJarrah 2 years ago
Your series? Oh dear. I've just watched those two. You're as deluded as the old man. What is it that is missing from your life that you have to spend so much time and effort on this silly conspiracy theory?
Are you really the grandson of the old man? Does the term "indoctrinated" mean anything to you? Or "brainwashed"? You know they made a film about this many years ago - you didn't watch it when you were a kid and thought it was real, did you?
BusterBloodvessel 2 years ago 9
Buster blood vessel was a fat Ugly Fat Twat that was famous for about 5 minutes in the UK in the 1980's
At least he had a personality and could back up what he was saying.
spacehopperballs 1 year ago
@spacehopperballs
This is all about JW Studios trying to make money off a delusional dead twat.
For example:
"My "Unproof of Newtonian Gravity" was one of my first. Using the Newtonian Formula... I found that during New Moon, the Sun's attraction for the Moon Is almost 3 times that of the Earth. Therefore, once every month the Moon, obeying the stronger force, should cease orbiting the Earth and head toward the Sun. It doesn't! "
What an idiot.
BusterBloodvessel 1 year ago
@BusterBloodvessel Ralph was spot on, you cunt !
Hellenbach13 4 months ago
@Hellenbach13 And the recent photographs of footprints on the moon are also faked, of course. How does it feel to realise what you - and Mr Rene - believed all these years is total rubbish! Poor you. Have a nice day.
BusterBloodvessel 4 months ago
@BusterBloodvessel HEY DIPSHITZ, THERE ARE NO RECENT PHOTOGRAPHS OF FOOTPRINTS , WHAT KIND OF RESEARCH IS THAT ? WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR FACTS? MTV ? HOPE YOU HAVE SHIITTY WEEK, YOU CUNT WHORE
Hellenbach13 4 months ago
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TremorHellborn 2 years ago
Leave it to Jarrah to make money off a dead man's work. Why not just publish his papers for all to see on a website?
qed100 2 years ago
No Jarrah, I am not going to complain about René's use of the term "gas-bags".
Rob260259 2 years ago
watch?v=FFIdZHQK3kA&feature=channel_page
Rob260259 2 years ago
If you're going to complain about Rene's use of the term "gas-bags" (which he applied to individuals who opposed him but offered no foundations for their claims against him), then what about the language of certain individuals from the pro-NASA side
watch?v=IITVafTZYtw
WhiteJarrah 2 years ago
jarrah, anyone, whats this music from, loved it ... classical fan :) thanks for the vid
pt1gard 2 years ago
Which music?
The first track or the second?
WhiteJarrah 2 years ago
the opening classical track?
thanks
gregg
pt1gard 2 years ago
It's called "Nearer My God To Thee"
WhiteJarrah 2 years ago
beautiful selection, am gonna look for it... just listened to your intervirww from 2008 with "whispers" people, all hillbillies, only one even thought it was possible that nasa mightve faked it here but they did go to moon too .... the chick was a ditz, the other guy was sheep material ... you sounded great as usual and they grasped nothing
pt1gard 2 years ago
See your PM. :)
WhiteJarrah 2 years ago
i remember watching a tV show where they went out of thei absolute way to bash renee unfairly. Then I got to see the actual man tell his ENTIRE STORY right here first hand without edits thanks to jarrah. Thanks Jarrah and thank you ralph.
stalkervision 2 years ago
"Without exploratory deviation from the norm, progress would have been and is, impossible" - Frank Zappa
"With only people like Ralph René on this earth, the word progress would not exist" - Airbuzz
Airbuzz 2 years ago
Im talking about enquiring minds.
People who stick blindlly with what they are spoon-fed by authority never make any important contributions to society/humanity.
Only those brave enough to question things do. Rene wasn't all right all of the time, but along the way he DID pose some intriguing points and create fresh angles of view on commonly accepted notions.
With people only like you, troll Airbuzz, we'd all be still chiseling flint axes in caves, is rather more to the point.
michaelstmark 2 years ago
I'm glad you admit Rene wasn't all right all of the time although that's a "slight" understatement. I'm all for fresh angles, but Renés angles were not fresh and hardly even angles. It was more some childish protest that no doubt had it's roots in Renés poorly hidden inferiority complex.
Airbuzz 2 years ago
No one's all right all of the time, not even the great Jay Utah, AB.
And yes, I'm sure you're all for fresh angles - just as long as they don't interfere with the world as you've been "educated" into accepting without question , is absolutely real.
No scientific theory is set in stone forever, fresh avenues of thinking are challenging them daily. But somehow it's uniquely satisfying to know that you, with your elitist intellectual fascism, will never come close to producing one of them.
michaelstmark 2 years ago
I've certainly not been educated to accept without questioning, quite the opposite in fact. The very foundation of scientific work is that it must be falsifiable. THAT'S what I've been taught. However, you have to base your questioning on actual, and I do mean actual... Research. Not just plain assumption which seems to be what René based his theories on. He made the most random claims. Entertaining reading, but totally useless.
Airbuzz 2 years ago
Something which is deemed falsifiable today may well be brought into question and even superseded in the future by what is considered "useless" by the closed minds of today.
The history of science is littered with examples
Your stance, just as with the closed minds of yesteryear, is that there is no truth beyond that which you have personally agreed to accept in the light of your present education.
You cannot, nor will not venture outside that limited box to entertain any other possibilities.
michaelstmark 2 years ago
I don't understand what you're saying. All scientific theories are subject to questioning, but that doesn't mean that you can discard them with the premise that you find them weird and therefore they can't be correct. You have to prove them wrong, that's the idea. When René doubted scientific theories based on his lack of understanding it doesn't make an impact. If you would board a rocket programmed with Rene's alternative theories for gravity and Pi and blast into space I would be impressed.
Airbuzz 2 years ago
Now you're being facetious.
Rene obviously never claimed rockets ought not to be able to launch because scientists and engineers were using the wrong theory or estimated value for Pi.
So, what was he Actually saying about Pi, and also gravity... I doubt you bothered to seriously enquire.
michaelstmark 2 years ago
michaelstmark, he didn't need to claim any such thing outright. If Pi is wrong, then ALL rocket science is flawed; therefore no rockets would work. Also it would be quite impossible to plan rocket trajectories if Newton's laws were wrong.
cml950x 2 years ago
" If Pi is wrong, "
How can Pi be right or wrong when it's only ever supposed to be an infinitely recurring estimated value?
Riddle me that, cm1950x
michaelstmark 2 years ago
"How can Pi be right or wrong" If I say Pi=2. I am wrong. If Ralph Rene were to have said Pi= EXACTLY 3.146264, then he would be wrong. And also I'd like to say Pi is not in fact an infinitely recurring estimated value. It's an irrational number that has been calculated to at least two million places. Calculated, NOT estimated.
cml950x 2 years ago
Pi, as an irrational number, has an infinitely-long string of digits. It's infinite, but not random. The string is exactly determined without ambiguity.
qed100 2 years ago
@Airbuzz you are an idiot, thats all Rene' did, was research not this typical jewishesque mocking and insults because they know THEY DONT HAVE A LEG TO STAND ON.
Hellenbach13 4 months ago
The populous league of svector authority-sucking trolls will doubtless be thrilled to learn of this, J.
All power to the enquiring human mind !
"Without exploratory deviation from the norm, progress would have been and is, impossible" - Frank Zappa
michaelstmark 2 years ago