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  • haha... stress @ dress ((o;

  • You are so delicate!

    However, advise you not to waste time in this direction.

  • yang style hasn't a fast form ^^ and orange dress don'tmake masters xD

  • black man can jump,white man can't do tai ji

  • This is not the fast form. Thsi is only 24 form taken out of context - snapping to resemble fajin. Not fajin

  • Very Nice! but did you speed up this form yourself or something?

    Because I think you're missing a few kicks, strikes and paries. Few movements are useless and I see a lot of useless movements here. For instance, at 0:28 you do a slight kick with your right leg. I think it's supposed to be a straight kick to the shin or belly or knees.

    Anyway, very nicely done. I just think you can interpret more of the movements, specialy as kicks and parries. Try maybe comparing to other forms

  • @SiloJay we have the absolute truths of the universe, such as balance and forces.. Science and whatnot. But when it comes to people, everything that happens only happens because it is permitted. Nothing about human nature is true is what I'm trying to say

  • @improv113 understandable. and I am saying that human nature is conditional truth, for within human nature is both good and evil, what makes it conditional truth is that one can start on one path and later advert to the other, the absolute truth is that human nature contains both elements of good and evil, the conditional truth depends on which one we follow.

  • @SijoJay eh, whatev's. Nothing is true, everything is just what you make of it, isn't it? I was a little tired and cranky when I made that first comment haha. Felt like criticizing something. So which style did you say he was doing again?

  • @improv113 He is performing Yang style 24 movement Tai Chi, the Fa Jing was added because this form is traditionally practiced with out the Fa Jing movements. It is a beginner level after learning some of the meditative postures. As far as "Truth" there are absolute truths that will never change, and then there are conditional truths that depend the outcome of certain events.

  • @improv113 (cont) Here we have the Absolute truth that Tai Chi is a Martial Art and is combat effective and also is a great regimen for over all health. The conditional truth with Tai Chi depends on how one practices it and for what purpose. Blessings....

  • @ShredST it's all implication. A stream and a waterfall are both water, but both are different in nature, different in form, and different in where the power lies.

  • @SijoJay and calm down dude. What difference does it make if what I say does not hold true in your view?

  • @improv113 It will be ok bro, no harm intended, ignorance is not bad, it isnt stupid, it is simply the absence of knowledge/lack of education in a particular area, but can be corrected by learning. I am a student of Tai Chi, both Chen and Yang styles, so it is not that what you stated doesnt hold true in my view, it is that what you said is simply not true at all, and it shows that you have never studied Tai Chi, therefore you really dont know what you are talking about.

  • @SijoJay What I'm trying to say is that it seems as if speed and flashiness was more focused on in this form, rather than power, accuracy, and flow.

  • Personally I like this, after all how do you really expect to use tai chi for proper purpose when your moving as slow as a snail? For training maybe but in a fight? No. Tai Chi is a martial art first and foremost one might train with slow movements but those dont work in fight. I am no expert on Tai Chi but this looks a little more combat capable than you often see. Like it.

  • This is somewhat disturbing. It's as if you are taking a long bow and using it as a sword. Tai Chi is meant to be a flow of movement. To learn to move like water. You are taking something that is meant for long, drawn-out movements, and turning it into a weapon of speed and brute force. Once again, disturbing.

  • @improv113 You really havent the slightest clue as to what you are talking about, right? Cause Tai Chi can be practiced at any speed. The explosive movements are called Fa Jing, meaning explosive force, if one practices Tai Chi for health only, these moves are unnecessary, but practicing Tai Chi for defence requires such training. It amazes me that people these days are so ignorant when the information highway is at their finger tips....

  • @improv113 Though this is Yang Family 24 movement Tai Chi, look up Chen Family Tai Chi and you will see Fa Jing in every form.

  • @improv113 Tai Chi is a martial art. There's nothing wrong with practicing it with speed and power.

  • A Shaolin's "hand form" can be practiced like Tai Chi, but if one practice Tai Chi like Shaolin, particularly as in this video (by no mean of offending), I am not sure if one knows Tai Chi (or Shaolin) at all.

    In short, Shaolin and Tai Chi have the same "applications" but different "practices". One needs to learn and to understand the principle(s) (心法)of at least one of these two schools, before one knows what one learns.

  • @SkepticWong Well, this being Yang Style 24 movement, one usually doesnt see Fa Jing practice in this form, but Chen Style, which is the Elder of Yang Style, is famous for its Fa Jing movements. I thought Skeptics did research....

  • This is not the fast Yang form. It is an educated butchering of the original slow form. Just terrible

  • 只是一个太极的动作,骨子里还是少林的东西,太极的内家劲力没有­体现出来,浑身僵力

  • Wow! Never seen this kind of fast taijiquan before. This guy is amazing. Did the sound come from his fast movements or from his breath?

  • Lacking in experience as I am, I don't think it's my place to say anything about whether the video is good or bad. However, I do think it's interesting that almost every video I've seen of someone doing the "fast" form isn't really the fast form. It's just a lot of fa jing. Doing the fast form is just that, speeding up the "slow" form without losing any of the principles in the process. I'm not saying that fa jing isn't fast, but it's not quite the same thing as doing the form faster.

  • @FinalEclipse06 It would appear you have more experience than you think. I have found genuine fast form yang on here however they have not been very good videos. If you find one do share

  • @NowForTruth Nah, I really do lack experience. I just know a lot of information from reading about taijiquan and qigong, watching a few excellent instructional videos about qigong theory, and finding some really good videos of skilled taiji players here on Youtube. Having that information is very useful, but having experience too is obviously best lol. It's just that the experience takes longer to acquire. If I find any decent videos of proper fast taijiquan, I'll be sure to share them with you.

  • @FinalEclipse06 Good Analogy

  • I think that if some giant 老外 wants to shave his head, dress up in the brightest buddhist monk suit ever and perform the simplest taichi form around in a weird way its fine but at least write a description to tell us why...what are u trying to achieve? or is it just to try to show off to a load of strangers - how very Buddhist of u! Surely u'd be better off spending less time on how u look and more time training (remember why Buddhists shave their heads! - its to oppose 外貌协会, superficiality)

  • the principles of tai chi dont exist in this perform... u can do the tai chi whit fajin (fast form whit the strong energy) but u must respect the principles and martial concept....realy dont like it this video

  • The performer doesn`t realize some fighting applications - so a lot of details are performed not correctly. I wish I know full routines of the scenes with Jet Li and Jacky Wu. Msy be smbd know&

  • Nice color indeed, but...

  • I think this is excellent. i like where you put the explosive moves. i learned a lot from watching your video. You explained the hard and soft very well. thank you

  • trying to hard... need a little more patience and practice...

  • His moves lack follow through, he is using his muscles and not trustin/using his Qi. IE he is forcing the moves instead of letting them happen.

  • I am gratified to see so many sensible comments about this spritely dance. Howmsoever, I wouldn't want to get close to this guy when he was pissed at me. Even queensbury can hurt if it lands.

  • Tai Chi is supposed to flow constantly like its counterpart, water. There are points where one would strike an opponent but it is supposed to be a strike while "passing". This form doesn't fit the Tai Chi principals and if so, barely. At points the person comes to a dead stop. That is a GIANT "no no". If this man wants to strike like this, try Hsing I. But even then, his form would have to completely change.

  • All is see is a robot in an orange suit. Meaning, close but no cigar.

  • Since age 5, I do various martial arts, Judo, Pentjak Silat, Aikido and for the past 14 years, now at age 64, I really only practise Taijiquan. But never was anyone allowed to wear jewellery or watch during practise in dojo's from Holland, Italy, Germany, UK, USA, Caribbean or at Longtan Park in Beijing in the pressence of Grandmaster LiLiGong. Disrespecting the international rules should not be shown on film. Remember the Students.

  • This doesnt look like fast tai chi at all. Not that i can do it but i know how it is supposed to look like. This is not fast tai chi this is just slow tai chi with some stupid fast punches. Just look on jibenquan on youtube to give you an idea.

  • ymaa's yang style (yang from ban-hou family/branch) with hsing-yi fa jin?

  • Could you please give me the forms so I could practice it?

  • ... Unfortunately, as others have said, this is an external demonstration of an internal art... Clearly, unfortunately, this student, does not as of yet, feel this internally... And only relies on physical outer strength, to the apparent exclusion of all else... Good luck improving... For all that, this is not Tai-Chi. I am glad I am not the first to have realized this :).

  • this is utter nonsense. This guy clearly has managed to convince one or two people that he is the real deal. Unfortunately, he is not. I am sure that he only knows this simplified 24 step form and the only way he can pretend that he knows anything about Fa Jing is to do it quickly and throw his arms out. If he wants to really learn, he should stop pretending and find a good teacher.

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  • This is pure utter rubbish for many of the reasons already posted. One missed is, taiji is like a river. The Yangtze is apparently impassable at parts, which would be fine IF the rest of the fast parts were correct (I cannot call it fajing as it isnt). It is the pauses after each explosion that bothers me. It would be like a river stopping and restarting again.. oh, and loose the shaolin monk suit. And 24, 48, 83 or what ever are beginner forms. Dont brag with basics done badly.

  • he is too stiff

  • Interesting.................ma­kes me look at my 24 form a little differently. I have mine posted as well. Check it out.

  • ... a little too 'robotic' looking?

  • This looks interesting, what is the purpose and benefit from practicing this? I have a somewhat active kundalini will this help me with this in anyway?

  • dude's only doing strikes and alot of the aplications are about breaking holds and pulling the guy off balance

  • good fa jin..

  • yes i talk too much. i mean nothing about racist. what i just meant was foreigners may not have the neccessary backgound to understand why taichi is formulated and designed that way. i never care if anyone agree with me. i am not obligated to explain everything to everyone anyways.

    道不遠人人自遠, 可嘆奈何?

  • Great inspires me to do the 24 step form and throw some energy into the form! Wonder why all the haters can't seem to post videos of them doing their "expert" methods. oh yeah the racist comments seem like they are fueled by jealousy.

  • dont let your mind move you, your breath isn't with your stroke, just like moving in calm water with out noise, you breathe as you move not trying to make noise, I have not seen this form before but follow what komes to the emptiest of mind ahd you'll get the movement as soft as water. keep up the work but for Taiji you want to move still, thats the principle of Taiji. *bow*

  • what i'm expected from "fast form" is doing all the movement, flowly but fast,, not this pop here and there. . .

  • search for Derek5287 on youtube and watch the clip he upload, thats the real yang style fast frame

    so please dont put some stupid clips to embarrass yourself. wearing shaolin monk suit doing taiji, come on

  • stupid foreigner's performance! taiji fast form doesnt mean doing taiji fast. this clip is simply showing a bald white guy doing yang cheng-fu's big frame in a wrong way.

  • @pokheiyung not yang chengfu's bigframe, this is the 24 simplified taijiquan ;)

  • @xibanyae perhaps foreign people dont understand, no matter if it is 103, 85, ,37, 24, or whatever version, those yang style taichi came from chengfu's bigframe, and therefore they all follow the same requirements. one of the requirements is not to fa jing when doing the practice, because after fa jing, the flow of energy (or chi if you like) would break into piece and could flow smoothly. this is one reason i say the person in the clip is doing it wrong.

  • @pokheiyung please notice i did not disagree with you in anything else than in the form he was performing... please don't assume everybody in youtube are foreigners who don't understand.

  • @pokheiyung The statements about fa jing alone tell me this is a troll or an ignoramus. my advice, talk less, train more, you are missing a lot of information.

  • @xibanyae also, since the flow of energy moves in circle, it can move in all directions. people can fa jing at any time and any direction. as an example, "brush knee and twist step", it is not neccessary to fajing at the palm, he can fajing to do a "lu", but why didnt he do so? an other example, stork spread wing, there is a jing call "gao peng" , but why didnt he do that fajing?

    my point is fa jing can be done whenever it's needed, in whatever position.

  • @pokheiyung gee racist much? Post your videos of you doing something or shut your racist armchair warrior ass up.

  • sorry for disagreeing with you but this is far the best demo online. In my opinion this is a 24 simplified forms with a mixed homemade fajing that doesn't work, and you can see it cause e movements had no power, only speed, in a reality he would not hurt or not be effective.

  • @duaron post your video. I'd like to see how an "expert" like you does it.

  • uhmmm, goood points.

  • waterbending <3

  • Thats NOT Chen at all, its the simplified 24 put together by the Chinese government for public health.

    Good structure, needs more softness and move from the ground, looks good compared to what I see in parks in China

  • This is Huleijia (or Thunderstorm style if I'm right), one branch of Chen Style Tai Chi Quan, not Yang style. Google "忽雷架" and you'll find several videos of such style. It was invented by Master Chen Qingping.

  • Give em the ol' low kick!

  • That was wonderful, not the best tai chi performance I've seen, but one of the few tai chi chuan performances I've seen, and that much was pretty cool :)

  • this is tai chi, but he is showing how he releases the power within that blow. He maybe stiff but being hit by that you can get hurt.

  • This is a good demonstration--about why Tai Chi is so difficult. This student wants to generate power, but now in his training, he needs to learn how to make the body empty and relaxed. After years of this, he could come back to adding in the hard aspects, but not till he learns the soft. Only then, will he be able to generate true Tai Chi power, rather than what he is doing now, which all comes from muscular contraction. When his power comes from extension and not contraction, he'll have it.

  • @figaro51, He only needs to relax more so he can drop his weight & learn how to use his hips better, that is really it. His demo is very good.

  • @figaro51 Perhaps...but at the long term...wel at the long term we're all dead anyway, so bravo for making a movie of what you can do, and not about what you might be able after 30 years more.

  • @jobbew Good comment! seems like most of the talkers have no videos to post. lol!

  • @figaro51 agreed

  • @figaro51 yeah i have found so far that the training of my yinian has provided easier movement of the chi. this poor fella is out of breath. first concept of tai chi is that if you are breathing heavily you aren't doing it right

  • @figaro51 Hello mr bean, making hard what is soft i presume?

  • This has to be one of the best demonstrations of fa jing (and fast form) application, martial tai chi i have seen on youtube.

    What is the persons name and style please?

  • @Anglostani Looks like Yang style... (Thought i read that somewhere)

  • Your whole body is very stiff, except the arms, during fa-jing. The jing comes from the 'wave' like contraction of the core or dantien. If your do it right, your whole body should shake like a tree.

  • shaolin template

  • Very good power... but dressing more like Shaolin instead of Wudang.. :)

  • Going up en going down, the 2 movements you shouldn't do in the moves he show.

  • You should better try to understund how the moves works not just to it fst. My shi fu showed me this form and explaied me that all the moves must have a "wave" motion, so you better practise more :)

  • fascinating. I've never heard of fajing applied to post-yang chengfu yang style tai chi. i like it

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  • Thanks for posting this ! It`s nice to see the Tai Chi guys move fast and use their "Yang Chi" applications for a change . Elsewhere , people always call it Wu Shu or Kung Fu ! Finally , they are coming out . Great video !

  • better form than any american instructors i've seen. you criticizers need to post response videos showings us how its done, but you won't cuz your full of crap.

  • Keeps locking the knees when shifting back.

  • good try, try again

  • He seems to have missed the whole point of "Be like water".

    Maybe that Shaolin monkey suit confused him.

  • Following the correct sequence of movements does not make it Tai Chi and the Fa Jing is more like a Karate or "hard style" Kime, than real Fa Jing....powerful yes, but not Fa Jing.

  • bad taichi

    he is not rooted.

    fajing demonstrated wouldnt evenkill a fly. plus, it is not proper "chan si jing"

  • Tai chi practice in shaolin monk suit ?

  • @Sinderking looks more like just a gi

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  • @Sinderking You can do Tai chi even naked. Trust me. :)

  • @Sinderking Taijiquan is taught at the Shaolin monastery, isn't it?

  • @GaladedridDamodred is taught at daoist temples, and yang isn't practiced that way.

  • @Sinderking I don't know anything about different styles, but I do know that students at the Shaolin monastery are taught taijiquan.  Maybe he learned it there?

  • @GaladedridDamodred well yes, some shaolin temple (little branch) in my region does teach tai chi, chen and yang too. but believe me they do not move or rotate or balance the body this way. This is heavily modified by him (the orange costume).

  • @Sinderking Oh, okay. Learn something new every day.

  • @Sinderking very good question! really weird, tai chi in shaolin monk suit!

  • @Sinderking "In 495 AD, the Indian monk Ba Tuo, or Buddhabhadra, came to China teaching a form of Buddhism known as Xiao Sheng Buddhism. He was given land at the foot of Shaoshi mountain by Emperor Shao Wen and founded the Shaolin Temple on this land."... And If my research is correct..Tai Chi Chuan started in that same Shaolin Monastery by Bodhidharma in 527-536 AD.

  • @gcraw7777 In 1247-1279, Zhang Sanfeng, the 'Taoist priest' who was the founder of Wudang clan which follows Taoist and Confusian philosophy, had created Taijiquan system. It is just one of boxing styles under Neijia's boxing system (Mother style). A Taoist boxing meditation is very different from Buddhist Gongfu (you will know the difference quite obviously if you try practice one of them). It was then revealed to the 1st generation (Wang Zongyue) and to "Chen/Yang/Wu/Sun/Hao" families, sir.

  • @Sinderking I stand corrected. Was it then that Tai Chi the external exercise that was created by Bodhidharma but there was no internal practice(tai chi chuan) until Zhang Sanfeng?

  • @gcraw7777 There was an actual internal Qigong for both Buddhist and Taoist and both of them (even internal) are not the same. Taoist practices "microcosmic orbit energy" because it follows Confucius' philosophy (try reading and practicing 'the secret art of golden flowers' in Chinese version.) but Buddhist meditation practices 'Bone marrow cleansing' meditation. I've done them both (though I'm not an expert of the bone marrow cleansing).They are both internal but chakra energy work isdifferent.

  • @Sinderking I see. Thank you Sinderking.

  • @Sinderking I see. Thank you Sinderking.

  • @gcraw7777 All the best, sir and have a very good health.

  • @Sinderking Thai Chi has developed by Taoist monks, Chen Wang-Ting, responsible for the creation, development and transmission of taijiquan

  • nice exercise, however, not tai chi bro! way too stiff.

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  • @thirdtuck @thirdtuck Are you saying that because it doesn't look all flowery and slow? If so, then you're pretty far off as this is one of the better Taiji demostrations I've seen online. Compare it to videos such as the one on my Sifu's site under the Review section for Taiji at the Flowingzen website. That video on the flowingzen site is not my Sifu performing the form, but it is one of his classmates.

  • that was excellent!

  • Awesome! I can see he has good chi flow through the movement. I havent seen yang form with strikes such as that! Thank you.

  • Good form. Thanks for sharing.

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