fantastic. Just great. Only negative, telling the guy to "shut up". Hard not to get frustrated when people are talking falsehoods and downright lies, but keeping a calm front is paramount to communication. I do it too....and trying to learn to control your temper and frustration with the religious nonsense that's spouted is a big challenge, and Matt does it so well.
@Moreba You say " horrors of atheism without providing evidence " My answer : Take a class in History 101. It is universally true that where religion is most persecuted by the state, there is man most tyrannized. You say. " I point out that hedonism is not a valid description of their character" OK.
You tell me what is their character. They rant and rave against God. What compells people to put on this type of program except wrath ? Obama is now after the Catholics- Who's next ?
@tfrenn About their character I already told you, if you want to tag them as something then "utilitarians"is a better suited description than hedonists.
Look it up
Don't send me to "take a class in history" that's hypocritical, provide examples instead where atheism and no other factor is persecuting religions
Or why don't you take a class instead and learn how many scientists where burned or persecuted by the church.
The only thing this program does is provide you with a dose of reality
@Moreba Christianity does not suit the modern man. Certainly it does not. And for the reason that the modern man is not man; he is part-man, a dissected man.
The Atheist Experience team are a bunch of hypocrites; they don't want reasoned sensible discussion or debate; if you make any relevant point they end up blocking you; clearly they just want the fundie fruitcake calling who will only be aware of this idiotic reductive literalist extreme interpretation of the Bible; this is old hat; debated down the centuries; they offer nothing new, only extremism and become as the people they accuse
I think it's amazing that someone would think condemning thinking someone is hot is a MORAL thing.
Who the fuck actually cares if someone thinks someone else is hot?
Religious fanatic morons, that's who. And these people should mind their own goddamn business. (And be told to do so in no uncertain terms.) Just because THEY are sexually frustrated/repressed/whatever, doesn't mean everyone else has to as well.
I mean honestly... limits on behaviour... sure. That's why we have laws. We have to live together on this planet, and preferably make sure this planet remains habitable in the process. That requires laws, because you need to be able to punish people who just won't do this.
But the sex thing? If any number of consenting adults wants to do anything sexually, then who the hell cares? Doesn't pick my pockets, doesn't break my legs.
Arguing with a theist is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon will just knock over all of the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like he's victorious
"What limits do atheists have?" Same limits Christians and everyone else that ain't stranded alone on an uncharted island: Civil and criminal laws, and social approbation.
Love how Matt always runs logic rings around morons like this who's beliefs are defined not by thinking through stuff and coming to a conclusion but by the fact that they have been told how to think (by a book, preacher or whatever).
I hate it when they get callers like this. This guy just makes us bible believers look bad. Ill give it to Matt. He knows the bible better then majority of Christians that call on here. Its sad. Well to all to all yall atheists out there this caller dose not represent me. Matt destroyed him.
@ScholarVisual: I feel the same way about some atheists, who fuel their passion with rage and anger. Hence the atheist stereotype describes us as hateful, negative, and amoral.
I beg to differ. I enjoy the qualities of every culture in this beautiful world.
@chinopisces It just frustrates me when people call themselves Christians, and Matt an atheist, pulls out a verse they arent familiar with. UGH!!!! That shit drives me crazy. I believe in the bible. But Matt is right. The old law is technically not done away with. Jesus actually did follow the Mosaic law. Its just some of those laws are n/a. I dont have a farm. So I cant follow the agricultural laws. Dose that mean their done away with. NO. Its just they are n/a in our modern civilization.
@ScholarVisual Ok so those laws aren't applicable to modern civilization. Who made the decision that they are not applicable? It wasn't your god, he made the laws and jesus didn't do away from them but followed the Mosaic law also. So who was it that made this decision?
@wraith168 Its not a decision. I dont have a farm. Im not deciding not to follow the agricultural laws, i just dont have a farm so how can I follow them. Thats what I mean by a lot of them being n/a. Its not a decision. We are in Democratic America. We dont have slaves. So there is no way to follow the slavery regulation laws. They are just n/a in our society. That dosnt mean there done away with. Its just the society we live in now do not support theocracy.
@ScholarVisual So basically you live by the morals and standards of society over the bible. Though if slavery was acceptable today, you would be ok with it? What about smiting your child for not honoring you?
@wraith168 Slavery in our day and age dosnt make that much since. We have advancements in technology. We are not a civilization that needs the economy of slavery. That would be going backwards. Why would we go back to riding horses as the main source of transportation instead of driving cars. God gave these commandments for 3000 yr old Israelite. Not for present day Americans.
@wraith168 And some of the laws in the old testament can be applied today.But a lot of them cant do to the laws of America.So its not a matter of cherry picking, its a matter of the ability to follow them.Like the examples of agriculture, slavery, and the management of captives.If we dont live in a system where everyday life is based off those things,they become n/a. Im not choosing not to marry my slave off to my son, but more like I dont have a slave, so i cant choose to do it.
@ScholarVisual Actually I would have rather hear you say that you would choose not to follow them because they are wrong not because you don't have the ability to. I would have hoped you would say you wouldn't marry your son to a slave because it is morally wrong to have a slave not because the ability to do that isn't there. You make it sound like if you had the ability to do so, you would follow those laws.
@wraith168 Well we run into 2 problems. First, God never commanded anyone to own slaves. He just provided regulations on how to handle them. So Im not breaking any laws by not owning a slave.
@ScholarVisual "First, God never commanded anyone to own slaves."
Just one example that biblegod commanded slave ownership :
“The LORD said to Moses, “You and Eleazar the priest and the family heads of the community are to count all the people and animals that were captured. Divide the spoils equally between the soldiers who took part in the battle and the rest of the community." Number 31:25-27
Dividing people as 'spoils' is God commanding his followers to own slaves.
@TheHigherVoltage Ok. First of all, your confusing events with laws. The flood is not a law its an event. The Mosaic laws of the old testament were written for the Israeites. "Hear o Israel" The whole idea of the Mosaic laws was to separate Israelites from the other nations. Not eating swines flesh, not wearing clothing with mixed materials, not marking the body. These were all to separate Isreal from other nations. The Mosaic laws were written to the Israelites exclusively.
@ScholarVisual " The Mosaic laws were written to the Israelites exclusively."
If that were the case, non-believers would not have been ordered to be put to death for not following those laws.
"They were commanded to divide the spoils equally" Biblegod ordered his followers to hand out people as property - slavery. When 'virgin girls' are ordered to be divided, that's advocating sex slaves.
Or do you think 12 year old girls wanted to 'marry' the psychopaths that just killed their parents?
@TheHigherVoltage And why do you guys always bring up this sex slave thing. No where dose it say Israel took the virgins and made them sex slaves. Your making an assumption. And to answer your question. If Israel wiped out all the men from the land, all thats left would be Israelite men. So if these virgins wanted to get married by default it would be with an Israelite man.
@ScholarVisual "No where dose it say Israel took the virgins and made them sex slaves. "
What it does say is that virgin girls are to be spared and 'taken' by their captors, and divided as property. Are you so naive to think a 12 year old girl, who just watched her whole family get slaughtered, would want to 'marry' the killers?
@wraith168 People often make the fallacy that the old testament was written for the world. The old testament was written to the Israelites on how to run their theocratic government. "Hear o Israel" not "Hear o the whole world". God didnt make those laws for gentiles. Moses was talking to Israelites. And a lot of those laws have to do with their time at war. Im not a 3000 yr old Israelite soldier. So how can I follow laws pertaining to captives. Its not done away with. Just n/a.
@ScholarVisual Then nothing in the old testament pertains to anyone other than the Isrealites? It's the same god that supposedly had both books written. A christians simple chucks the OT out for the NT? Or cherry picks what to take from the old book? Picks what fits for them and makes their god not such a bad guy. You are right though, a lot of christians don't really know what is in the bible. Not say they should be able to quote it word for word but a lot don't know OT from NT
@wraith168 First of all, there was no old and new testament until this guy named Macion started this cult. He felt the God of the old testament was a completely different deity then Jesus in the new testament. This is when the old and new testament were separated in 144 A.D. Before Marcion it was just the testament. It wasnt split. Its amazing to me that the Mariconic cult has become mainstream. The church of today is not the church of the bible. Thats what atheists must realize.
@wraith168 And secondly, the reason the morality of the bible debate will never have a conclusion is because morality is very much like beauty. Its in the eye of the beholder. The things that you may find immoral in the bible are only immoral because your code of ethics is based of modern day western civilization. Morality is off peoples opinions not facts.So to the people living in the bible slavery was not immoral, but in western civilization it is. It will always go in circles.
@ScholarVisual "People often make the fallacy that the old testament was written for the world. The old testament was written to the Israelites on how to run their theocratic government."
I disagree.
eg. The flood myth wasn't just about drowning Isrealites that wouldn't follow just right, the flood myth was written as a global event.
"And a lot of those laws have to do with their time at war." How's that work anyways? "Thou Shall not Kill" - now go on killing sprees for me!
@TheHigherVoltage And Secondly, the Num 31 reference is still regarding regulating.They were commanded to divide the spoils equally. Regulating the process. If you didnt want any slaves their is no penalty mentioned. And not everyone in Israel could afford to buy a slave. Some of the Israelites were slaves themselves to their own people. So how can you own slaves if you are one? If you dont own a slave you are not breaking a law.
@ScholarVisual I have to wonder : do you actually believe that a creator of everyone picked a favorite group to kill everyone else that wouldn't kiss their ass just right?
@TheHigherVoltage Ok let me give you the proper frame of reference. The Mosaic Law was Israels constitution. The American Constitution only regulates America, Not the whole world. Israel's Mosaic law was to regulate Israel. Not the whole world. If you were a non believer outside of Israel jurisdiction you would not suffer the penalties. Just like how I cant get arrested for smoking weed in Amsterdam. Once again these laws were written for Israel's Theocratic State.
@ScholarVisual " If you were a non believer outside of Israel jurisdiction you would not suffer the penalties."
It's interesting how 'Israel's jurisdiction' was every where they invaded and slaughtered - and not their "promised land".
But once again, why would anyone believe this sadistic, psychotic crap to be anything more than just another fake godcult, that evil groups fabricate to justify slaughtering other people and stealing their stuff?
@TheHigherVoltage When Israel came out of Egypt they were reclaiming their land. Israel was not set out for world domination like the Romans and Persians. They were content with their promise land. The battles that they fought were people that had took over their land while they were in Egypt. Israel was marking their territory. And if you want to talk about slaughter.Check out The United States of America. We slaughtered 100 times more then Ancient Israel. Iraq ring a bell? Vietnam? Hiroshima?
@TheHigherVoltage And the concept of God and an after life is way too intricate to say its just out of fear and ignorance.Your saying they said "Oh Im scared, lets make a God."Please give our ancestors a little more credit then that.Even the concept of a spirit is way to in depth just to brush it off as fear in ignorance.The idea that your physical body is containing an energy that transcends to another plain of existence when you die is a very intricate concept.Much more then fear and ignorance
@TheHigherVoltage And as far as the bible God being real. Rationally I would have to say there is no solid evidence to support the God of the bible. But I believe the concept of God is not something grabbed out of thin air. Something happened thousands of years ago to convince the majority of humans that there is a God. You could argue the storys are fabricated. But something definitely happened to convince people a higher being of intelligence exists.
@TheHigherVoltage Please actually read the old testament instead of bible hate sites. They were battling the people that were inhabiting their land that was taken away when they were in Egypt. And their battles during their travels were within the territory that God had given to them. They werent trying to make an Empire. Please read the OT. Once they reclaimed their land the expansion battles stopped. The battles then became about keeping their land. Like the battles with the philistines.
@ScholarVisual I've read a few bibles cover to cover. As well as the quran, most of the vedas, and a variety of other self-declared 'words from god(s)' cults hold up as 'proof' of their claims somehow they're the only ones not playing fairy tale.
"They were battling the people that were inhabiting their land " No they weren't - they were slaughtering people on their way to the land they were supposedly promised.
If it was within the territory a god gave them, why'd they lose sometimes?
@TheHigherVoltage Maybe you should read it over because all the battles were within the land that was called Canaan that was entitled to the Israelites. All the battles took place in that area. The Midianites were conquered. A lot of the Midianites merged with Israel and that southern region became Judah. The Amalekites were defeated at Kadesh, which is in northern Canaan. The battle of Jericho, thats also in Canaan. All the battles were within their entitled territory. Plain and simple.
@TheHigherVoltage And im not saying the afterlife is synonymous with God.Im trying to show you that their is a deeper reason why all the religions around the world have the same concepts. Its not all fear and ignorance.I could go to the deepest darkest part of the Amazon.A people cut off from all civilization.And you know what? I promise you that tribe will pray to some deity and theyll believe when they die they go somewhere else. Something happened to make humans start believing in such things
@ScholarVisual " They werent trying to make an Empire." claiming their descendants would cover the earth, is a declaration of building an empire.
All religious cultures (we know of) started as polytheistic. "One God" wasn't a concept until self-proclaimed 'holymen' realized it's easier to control with one god than many.
#2 afterlife isn't synonymous with god. even the jewish cult didn't add a promises of an after life till half way through the OT.
@TheHigherVoltage Now your reaching, Listen, Having your descendants cover the world is very different from having your kingdom covering the world. The descendants of the Israelites have actually covered the world. Some of them migrated as for as China. You have the Falasha in Ethiopia. Some migrated to south Africa. And of course you have Poland, Russia, and Germany. And New York city actually has more Jews then in Israel. So the descendants of Israel have began to cover the world.
@ScholarVisual I'm not reaching, you're making a false claim.
Just one example that refutes your position : "Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the LORD, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy." - Zephaniah 3:8-9
Psychotic megalomania. No different than the 'every knee will bow' crap.
@TheHigherVoltage Once again, that verse has nothing to do with Isreal creating an empire. This is God pouring out his vengeance on the nations. "I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger". That has nothing to do with the expansion of Israel at all. This is Gods wrath on all of humanity. Hes gathering the nations to punish them. Not to build an Empire. "for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy" Do actually read these verses
@ScholarVisual "And their battles during their travels were within the territory that God had given to them."
It's interesting that a God who orders his people not to kill, also orders them to kill.
"The battles then became about keeping their land." Once again...it's interesting that the creator of the universe, who claims to protect his 'chosen people', can't.
@TheHigherVoltage Another thing you need to understand is God had a covenant with Israel. A covenant works like a contract. Israel kept breaching the agreement. They disobeyed numerous times. And thats what lost them a lot of battles. They didnt keep their end of the bargain. They always fell into idolatry. And that would be a breach of contract. So they suffered the consequences of breaking their covenant.
@TheHigherVoltage And Im not trying to compare atrocities. Im trying to show you when a nation is at war people die. Thats how it works. So when you read the old testament you have to have the frame of reference of a people at war.
@ScholarVisual That's what I would wish more Christians did. I suppose Christians do better about distancing themselves from the idiots than say the Muslims.
enough with the "where do you get your morals from" none-sense. Same place you do. It's common sense to know that a place where people don't go around raping is a better place. You already admit that. Why do you need to have imposed onto you a rule that you already understand and approve of? If I convinced you that there is no god, would you start raping just because?
And that's not even getting into the fact that fair-trade morals are hard-wired into primate behaviour (which includes humans).
4:30 "And then you just rape a bunch of people and then shoot yourself. What's going to be the punishment for you?" If that sort of thing sickens you then contribute to a society where it's prevented rather than relying on coercion from the "big stick" that is religion. I find most "morally religious" people profoundly lazy in that they pass the buck to God rather than having to consider the hard issues. "God has to tell us because I'm too limited to think of why people don't rape everyone."
This guy's line of thinking is so typical. It must be a religious trait to think so little of our species that we are incapable of establishing morality on our own; that we have to coerced into being moral. And no, there is no penalty besides death for the person who rapes a bunch of people and then kills himself. Andrew's lust for judgment and fear of a chaotic society leads him to ignore our capacity to produce morality/ethics by examining and predicting the effects of actions.
I'm just loving this. The web, and this show, have exposed religion for what it is. And Matt's consumate Biblical knowledge (oh, the part about lust?) mingled with skepticism, logic, and a genuine anger at the problems makes it perfect. They come, they try, they fail. And the whole fucking world is watching as god dies.
@elroyrigsby You can not quantify the unreported reports, that makes no sense. Unless you try to compare the ratio of population of a given country to another country population. That way you can not say in this matter the rate is higher, simply because you lack the knowledge of the quantity of actual missing reports.
I like raping everybody while they all rape me. . . it makes my dull Sunday nights more entertaining as I am a Bills fan and have to get my excitement from other sources
As a swede though, I would like to point out that we do have a rape problem recently. If you check statistics for rapes per capita in Europe, Sweden is in the lead.
It almost sounds like the caller has been considering in engaging in rape, and the only holding him back is his Christian conscience. Now, he's rationalizing by saying, "Well, I think you're going to have more happiness in your life, if you have limits to tell you what you can do."
Every time Andrew calls in and at the end of the call he finally admits defeat and just says "well I just think religion is good for society" as if thats all its good for and everything else is a tall tale. Even that so called fact is a lie that its good for society as Matt said that statistics show that less religious societies have less crime etc. Don't you want to be on the side of truth before you die?
These Christians always say that if we didn't have the Bible then men would all go around Raping women as if they didn't know that God loves rape. He took another mans woman and impregnated her (Mary) He also told the men to kill the other tribesmen hundreds of times in multiple battles and rape the women or take them same thing. Who thinks that they went willingly? Who thinks they didn't get raped? Actually God isn't real and the men doing the evil needed to blame someone.
Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.
A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexuality and homosexuality. Even non-religious people know this.
The homosexual agenda is not good for anyone, including those who consider themselves "gay".
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have successfuly framed themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
why is it almost every christian that calls say so many stupid things (no offense meant, sincerely). i know tehre are logical smart crhistians out there... that might of course not be able to prove anything but at least say some more sustainable arguments.
Out of all the Atheist experience smackdowns I gotta admit that this one was particularly vicious. Man, at certain points you can HEAR the wheels turning in the caller's head.
I feel so privilaged to live in the age of question and reason. Although I am proud of our nature as secular humanists and atheists (call us what you will) to listen to the alternative and often insane ideas of origin of existence and morality, I do get frustrated with the fact that we grant dis-illusioned religious zealots an audience as if their "argument" (I use the term loosely) has any substance to it and should be heard. Religion gives no respect, and as such, should receive no respect.
God is a spirit, an immaterial conscious being. All things in the universe consists of matter and/or energy, so if God isn't matter, is energy by definition. Energy is the capacity to do work, is eternal, omnipresent, wasn't created and can't be destroyed, can create matter, was the only thing present before the BB, and the energy required to make the universe must had been powerful. All these match Biblical descriptions of God. Therefore is plausible God exists.
Andrew, Matt, and all the other names this lying christian from Stone church in Austin uses, shows that my many comments on how easily christians lie to be true.
Please christians don't leave your foolish posts expecting a dialog with me,
I don't have discussions with brain dead people as it is only a waste of time.
Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.
A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption. Even non-religious people know this.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
It can't be about finding out the truth, because there are different ways of translating the Bible. The main problem with this guy is he thinks the words of Jesus are always literal and apply to everyone exactly as they were translated, not just when and how they were used at the time. That caller did a bad job and the hosts were quite proud, sickening.
Some atheists do the exact thing they criticize Christians for, it's really the same type of dogma. I mean, just like any religious people that try to tell you why they're right and your wrong, these guys do exactly that.
@davis2387 dogma: "A principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true."
Atheism has no set of principles, no authority figures that tell us what or how to think. Atheism is simply the rejection of claims that gods exist.
What have the hosts done that they criticize christians for? They give callers an opportunity to demonstrate that their claims are true. When the callers fail do so, the hosts explain why their arguments failed. It's pretty straightforward.
Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.
A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption. Even non-religious people know this.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.
A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption. Even non-religious people know this.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
Christ, he asks a question, gets a true, honest, realistic and fair answer and then COMPLETELY ignores the response and just asks another question.. What is the fucking point? Really? Why? He's not after answers hes just trying to 'stump' the 'atheist movement' to prove a point.
i am a christian and i agree with thatis true without sexual desire not many would get married but of course love and faithfullness should be the other foundations too.
Westboro Baptist Church people say God hates fags. That does not make sense because God is supposed to have created them. Why would he create something he hates? I don't understand why they don't understand that perfectly simple logic. I just wanted to mention that.
I can understand the idea that a man who looks at a woman lustfully is doing something wrong. I don't agree, but I can understand the idea. But adultery is a two-person crime. So is the woman also doing something wrong because some random guy thinks she's attractive?
The caller was not looking for truth, he was looking to win an argument. At 5:15 Matt clearly wins the question of punishment for crimes as per the xian system & the caller stumbles, hard, but for only a moment & then his xian programming kicks in & he (a) ignores the reality that Matt has presented him & then (b) come out swinging at 6:45
The mind of a xian is so flawed & this for me equates to living proof that this religion is a mental disease.
@lewisner c'mon, that man is a complete mental case. he is not part of a christian denomination that promotes violence. he seems just as concerned with the immigration policies and the deep cultural crisis that europeans are experiencing as he is with religion. i am sure there are militant atheists (most people in norway are) who could do the same thing, not for religious reasons. not many, though. to start shooting kids like that really takes a complete psycopath.
@topperheartramada " i am sure there are militant atheists (most people in norway are) who could do the same thing" But they DON'T. To do something like this you have to be pretty detached from reality and believing in an Invisible Man In The Sky, Angels, Demons, the Devil and a Talking Snake involves being detached from reality doesn't it?
@lewisner hey, we have had communist groups blow up buildings and kill lots of civilians. red army faction in germany in the 70s is a good example. extreme political ideas can flourish among atheists as well. we are still waiting to see what the team of psychiatrists will say about anders berivik so i am not sure yet. but religion is probably only part of his motivation. a lot of what he says could also be said by an extremist atheist who is strongly opposed to immigration policies.
@lewisner hey, we have had communist groups blow up buildings and kill lots of civilians. red army faction in germany in the 70s is a good example. extreme political ideas can flourish among atheists as well. we are still waiting to see what the team of psychiatrists will say about anders berivik so i am not sure yet. but religion is probably only part of his motivation. a lot of what he says could also be said by an extremist atheist who is strongly opposed to immigration policies.
@topperheartramada all you're talking about it people with strong ideologies. Idiology is the problem whether it be religious or otherwise. Atheism in general doesn't have an idology, it's a reject of one.
@rubberband3456 I liked part where he refuted and deflected all of Matt's logic with "whe, ummm, er, hmmm".
He didn't get Matt AT ALL. He got OWNED. And rightly so. Why answer a question with such a FUCKING OBVIOUS answer? Any viewer with half fuckin' a brain would know the answer anyway. The rest won't care.
@rubberband3456 Matt ignored the question? No, maybe we should listen to it again. He specifically said he based it on "reality" and thoughtfully examining the situation. That's not avoiding the question. It's based on everybody looking at the situation in question, figuring out what would be the best possible situation for society and the individual and how it can be realistically carried out. "oh atheists" indeed. The suggestion we use 2000 yr old morality that contradicts itself is better?
Fantastic video. The caller demonstrates a lot that is bad about religion & just how much it skews thinking. It makes me sad when I hear this faith derived mind corruption as it reminds me of what I was like. I don't blame people, I blame the religion itself.
ugg. sigh. wwwww. ehhhhh. Briliant responses from the caller. But he calls back again next week with the same arguments.
alieninventions 22 hours ago
I personally love when someone religious says 'darn' or 'shoot' or 'crud' and they dont think their god knows what they meant.
alieninventions 22 hours ago
fantastic. Just great. Only negative, telling the guy to "shut up". Hard not to get frustrated when people are talking falsehoods and downright lies, but keeping a calm front is paramount to communication. I do it too....and trying to learn to control your temper and frustration with the religious nonsense that's spouted is a big challenge, and Matt does it so well.
Futureplanet 3 days ago
We are a primitive species indeed. It actually brings me great pleasure to become humbled by a scientific view of the world.
drche420 5 days ago
Damn he memerized the bible what a boss.
HellomynameisN 1 week ago
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@Moreba You say " horrors of atheism without providing evidence " My answer : Take a class in History 101. It is universally true that where religion is most persecuted by the state, there is man most tyrannized. You say. " I point out that hedonism is not a valid description of their character" OK.
You tell me what is their character. They rant and rave against God. What compells people to put on this type of program except wrath ? Obama is now after the Catholics- Who's next ?
tfrenn 1 week ago
@tfrenn About their character I already told you, if you want to tag them as something then "utilitarians"is a better suited description than hedonists.
Look it up
Don't send me to "take a class in history" that's hypocritical, provide examples instead where atheism and no other factor is persecuting religions
Or why don't you take a class instead and learn how many scientists where burned or persecuted by the church.
The only thing this program does is provide you with a dose of reality
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tfrenn 1 week ago
@Moreba Christianity does not suit the modern man. Certainly it does not. And for the reason that the modern man is not man; he is part-man, a dissected man.
tfrenn 1 week ago
This phone call is totally staged because any Christian would not answer the way he answered......FAKE!!!
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@tfrenn The way these guys talk about themselves and how what they consider moral you would think they were secular saints.
tfrenn 1 week ago
these two folks here are brilliant and eloquent
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The Atheist Experience team are a bunch of hypocrites; they don't want reasoned sensible discussion or debate; if you make any relevant point they end up blocking you; clearly they just want the fundie fruitcake calling who will only be aware of this idiotic reductive literalist extreme interpretation of the Bible; this is old hat; debated down the centuries; they offer nothing new, only extremism and become as the people they accuse
no1hoopsman 1 week ago
I think it's amazing that someone would think condemning thinking someone is hot is a MORAL thing.
Who the fuck actually cares if someone thinks someone else is hot?
Religious fanatic morons, that's who. And these people should mind their own goddamn business. (And be told to do so in no uncertain terms.) Just because THEY are sexually frustrated/repressed/whatever, doesn't mean everyone else has to as well.
TheSkunkCat 2 weeks ago
@TheSkunkCat
I mean honestly... limits on behaviour... sure. That's why we have laws. We have to live together on this planet, and preferably make sure this planet remains habitable in the process. That requires laws, because you need to be able to punish people who just won't do this.
But the sex thing? If any number of consenting adults wants to do anything sexually, then who the hell cares? Doesn't pick my pockets, doesn't break my legs.
TheSkunkCat 2 weeks ago 4
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Arguing with a theist is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon will just knock over all of the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like he's victorious
myndzyeful 3 weeks ago
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Christian beliefs are always worth a good laugh...
Hornadayfan 3 weeks ago
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Hornadayfan 3 weeks ago
"What limits do atheists have?" Same limits Christians and everyone else that ain't stranded alone on an uncharted island: Civil and criminal laws, and social approbation.
Kailoa36 4 weeks ago
"ah, I'll be dead." Best answer. I loved that part.
wraith168 1 month ago
anyone else think that this sounds like Mark?
FenrirUlvTheFurry 1 month ago
I used to rape people all the time until I took a bible to the knee
111dogon555 1 month ago 34
Religious people are that section of society that is too lazy, too afraid, or too stupid to think for themselves.
politicoochie09 1 month ago
FATALITY!!! (Mortal Combat)
libidowolf 1 month ago
Love how Matt always runs logic rings around morons like this who's beliefs are defined not by thinking through stuff and coming to a conclusion but by the fact that they have been told how to think (by a book, preacher or whatever).
carpy1970 1 month ago
MARK YOU DEVIOUS LITTLE SHIT! Your like waldo to this show.
Stuckherewithyou 1 month ago
@Stuckherewithyou Yeah its totally him
Salment 1 month ago
I hate it when they get callers like this. This guy just makes us bible believers look bad. Ill give it to Matt. He knows the bible better then majority of Christians that call on here. Its sad. Well to all to all yall atheists out there this caller dose not represent me. Matt destroyed him.
ScholarVisual 1 month ago
@ScholarVisual: I feel the same way about some atheists, who fuel their passion with rage and anger. Hence the atheist stereotype describes us as hateful, negative, and amoral.
I beg to differ. I enjoy the qualities of every culture in this beautiful world.
chinopisces 1 month ago
@chinopisces It just frustrates me when people call themselves Christians, and Matt an atheist, pulls out a verse they arent familiar with. UGH!!!! That shit drives me crazy. I believe in the bible. But Matt is right. The old law is technically not done away with. Jesus actually did follow the Mosaic law. Its just some of those laws are n/a. I dont have a farm. So I cant follow the agricultural laws. Dose that mean their done away with. NO. Its just they are n/a in our modern civilization.
ScholarVisual 1 month ago
@ScholarVisual Ok so those laws aren't applicable to modern civilization. Who made the decision that they are not applicable? It wasn't your god, he made the laws and jesus didn't do away from them but followed the Mosaic law also. So who was it that made this decision?
wraith168 1 month ago
@wraith168 Its not a decision. I dont have a farm. Im not deciding not to follow the agricultural laws, i just dont have a farm so how can I follow them. Thats what I mean by a lot of them being n/a. Its not a decision. We are in Democratic America. We dont have slaves. So there is no way to follow the slavery regulation laws. They are just n/a in our society. That dosnt mean there done away with. Its just the society we live in now do not support theocracy.
ScholarVisual 1 month ago
@ScholarVisual So basically you live by the morals and standards of society over the bible. Though if slavery was acceptable today, you would be ok with it? What about smiting your child for not honoring you?
wraith168 1 month ago
@wraith168 Slavery in our day and age dosnt make that much since. We have advancements in technology. We are not a civilization that needs the economy of slavery. That would be going backwards. Why would we go back to riding horses as the main source of transportation instead of driving cars. God gave these commandments for 3000 yr old Israelite. Not for present day Americans.
ScholarVisual 1 month ago
@wraith168 And some of the laws in the old testament can be applied today.But a lot of them cant do to the laws of America.So its not a matter of cherry picking, its a matter of the ability to follow them.Like the examples of agriculture, slavery, and the management of captives.If we dont live in a system where everyday life is based off those things,they become n/a. Im not choosing not to marry my slave off to my son, but more like I dont have a slave, so i cant choose to do it.
ScholarVisual 4 weeks ago
@ScholarVisual Actually I would have rather hear you say that you would choose not to follow them because they are wrong not because you don't have the ability to. I would have hoped you would say you wouldn't marry your son to a slave because it is morally wrong to have a slave not because the ability to do that isn't there. You make it sound like if you had the ability to do so, you would follow those laws.
wraith168 4 weeks ago
@wraith168 Well we run into 2 problems. First, God never commanded anyone to own slaves. He just provided regulations on how to handle them. So Im not breaking any laws by not owning a slave.
ScholarVisual 4 weeks ago
@ScholarVisual "First, God never commanded anyone to own slaves."
Just one example that biblegod commanded slave ownership :
“The LORD said to Moses, “You and Eleazar the priest and the family heads of the community are to count all the people and animals that were captured. Divide the spoils equally between the soldiers who took part in the battle and the rest of the community." Number 31:25-27
Dividing people as 'spoils' is God commanding his followers to own slaves.
TheHigherVoltage 4 weeks ago
@TheHigherVoltage Ok. First of all, your confusing events with laws. The flood is not a law its an event. The Mosaic laws of the old testament were written for the Israeites. "Hear o Israel" The whole idea of the Mosaic laws was to separate Israelites from the other nations. Not eating swines flesh, not wearing clothing with mixed materials, not marking the body. These were all to separate Isreal from other nations. The Mosaic laws were written to the Israelites exclusively.
ScholarVisual 4 weeks ago
@ScholarVisual " The Mosaic laws were written to the Israelites exclusively."
If that were the case, non-believers would not have been ordered to be put to death for not following those laws.
"They were commanded to divide the spoils equally" Biblegod ordered his followers to hand out people as property - slavery. When 'virgin girls' are ordered to be divided, that's advocating sex slaves.
Or do you think 12 year old girls wanted to 'marry' the psychopaths that just killed their parents?
TheHigherVoltage 4 weeks ago
@TheHigherVoltage And why do you guys always bring up this sex slave thing. No where dose it say Israel took the virgins and made them sex slaves. Your making an assumption. And to answer your question. If Israel wiped out all the men from the land, all thats left would be Israelite men. So if these virgins wanted to get married by default it would be with an Israelite man.
ScholarVisual 4 weeks ago
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@ScholarVisual "No where dose it say Israel took the virgins and made them sex slaves. "
What it does say is that virgin girls are to be spared and 'taken' by their captors, and divided as property. Are you so naive to think a 12 year old girl, who just watched her whole family get slaughtered, would want to 'marry' the killers?
TheHigherVoltage 4 weeks ago
@wraith168 People often make the fallacy that the old testament was written for the world. The old testament was written to the Israelites on how to run their theocratic government. "Hear o Israel" not "Hear o the whole world". God didnt make those laws for gentiles. Moses was talking to Israelites. And a lot of those laws have to do with their time at war. Im not a 3000 yr old Israelite soldier. So how can I follow laws pertaining to captives. Its not done away with. Just n/a.
ScholarVisual 1 month ago
@ScholarVisual Then nothing in the old testament pertains to anyone other than the Isrealites? It's the same god that supposedly had both books written. A christians simple chucks the OT out for the NT? Or cherry picks what to take from the old book? Picks what fits for them and makes their god not such a bad guy. You are right though, a lot of christians don't really know what is in the bible. Not say they should be able to quote it word for word but a lot don't know OT from NT
wraith168 4 weeks ago
@wraith168 First of all, there was no old and new testament until this guy named Macion started this cult. He felt the God of the old testament was a completely different deity then Jesus in the new testament. This is when the old and new testament were separated in 144 A.D. Before Marcion it was just the testament. It wasnt split. Its amazing to me that the Mariconic cult has become mainstream. The church of today is not the church of the bible. Thats what atheists must realize.
ScholarVisual 4 weeks ago
@wraith168 And secondly, the reason the morality of the bible debate will never have a conclusion is because morality is very much like beauty. Its in the eye of the beholder. The things that you may find immoral in the bible are only immoral because your code of ethics is based of modern day western civilization. Morality is off peoples opinions not facts.So to the people living in the bible slavery was not immoral, but in western civilization it is. It will always go in circles.
ScholarVisual 4 weeks ago
@ScholarVisual "People often make the fallacy that the old testament was written for the world. The old testament was written to the Israelites on how to run their theocratic government."
I disagree.
eg. The flood myth wasn't just about drowning Isrealites that wouldn't follow just right, the flood myth was written as a global event.
"And a lot of those laws have to do with their time at war." How's that work anyways? "Thou Shall not Kill" - now go on killing sprees for me!
TheHigherVoltage 4 weeks ago
@TheHigherVoltage And Secondly, the Num 31 reference is still regarding regulating.They were commanded to divide the spoils equally. Regulating the process. If you didnt want any slaves their is no penalty mentioned. And not everyone in Israel could afford to buy a slave. Some of the Israelites were slaves themselves to their own people. So how can you own slaves if you are one? If you dont own a slave you are not breaking a law.
ScholarVisual 4 weeks ago
@ScholarVisual I have to wonder : do you actually believe that a creator of everyone picked a favorite group to kill everyone else that wouldn't kiss their ass just right?
TheHigherVoltage 4 weeks ago
@TheHigherVoltage Ok let me give you the proper frame of reference. The Mosaic Law was Israels constitution. The American Constitution only regulates America, Not the whole world. Israel's Mosaic law was to regulate Israel. Not the whole world. If you were a non believer outside of Israel jurisdiction you would not suffer the penalties. Just like how I cant get arrested for smoking weed in Amsterdam. Once again these laws were written for Israel's Theocratic State.
ScholarVisual 4 weeks ago
@ScholarVisual " If you were a non believer outside of Israel jurisdiction you would not suffer the penalties."
It's interesting how 'Israel's jurisdiction' was every where they invaded and slaughtered - and not their "promised land".
But once again, why would anyone believe this sadistic, psychotic crap to be anything more than just another fake godcult, that evil groups fabricate to justify slaughtering other people and stealing their stuff?
TheHigherVoltage 4 weeks ago
@TheHigherVoltage When Israel came out of Egypt they were reclaiming their land. Israel was not set out for world domination like the Romans and Persians. They were content with their promise land. The battles that they fought were people that had took over their land while they were in Egypt. Israel was marking their territory. And if you want to talk about slaughter.Check out The United States of America. We slaughtered 100 times more then Ancient Israel. Iraq ring a bell? Vietnam? Hiroshima?
ScholarVisual 4 weeks ago
@TheHigherVoltage And the concept of God and an after life is way too intricate to say its just out of fear and ignorance.Your saying they said "Oh Im scared, lets make a God."Please give our ancestors a little more credit then that.Even the concept of a spirit is way to in depth just to brush it off as fear in ignorance.The idea that your physical body is containing an energy that transcends to another plain of existence when you die is a very intricate concept.Much more then fear and ignorance
ScholarVisual 4 weeks ago
And I gotta ask :
(1) Do you actually believe the creator of the universe gets off on animal sacrifices and the smell of burning flesh?
(2) Do you actually believe biblegod is more than fiction?
TheHigherVoltage 4 weeks ago
@TheHigherVoltage And as far as the bible God being real. Rationally I would have to say there is no solid evidence to support the God of the bible. But I believe the concept of God is not something grabbed out of thin air. Something happened thousands of years ago to convince the majority of humans that there is a God. You could argue the storys are fabricated. But something definitely happened to convince people a higher being of intelligence exists.
ScholarVisual 4 weeks ago
@ScholarVisual "But something definitely happened to convince people a higher being of intelligence exists."
Ignorance and fear comes to mind.
"When Israel came out of Egypt they were reclaiming their land."
According to the mythology, they slaughtered everyone in their travels that they could. Interestingly enough, they also lost several battles.
"And if you want to talk about slaughter.Check out The United States of America."
Comparing atrocities doesn't negate the atrocities.
TheHigherVoltage 4 weeks ago
@TheHigherVoltage Please actually read the old testament instead of bible hate sites. They were battling the people that were inhabiting their land that was taken away when they were in Egypt. And their battles during their travels were within the territory that God had given to them. They werent trying to make an Empire. Please read the OT. Once they reclaimed their land the expansion battles stopped. The battles then became about keeping their land. Like the battles with the philistines.
ScholarVisual 4 weeks ago
@ScholarVisual I've read a few bibles cover to cover. As well as the quran, most of the vedas, and a variety of other self-declared 'words from god(s)' cults hold up as 'proof' of their claims somehow they're the only ones not playing fairy tale.
"They were battling the people that were inhabiting their land " No they weren't - they were slaughtering people on their way to the land they were supposedly promised.
If it was within the territory a god gave them, why'd they lose sometimes?
TheHigherVoltage 4 weeks ago
@TheHigherVoltage Maybe you should read it over because all the battles were within the land that was called Canaan that was entitled to the Israelites. All the battles took place in that area. The Midianites were conquered. A lot of the Midianites merged with Israel and that southern region became Judah. The Amalekites were defeated at Kadesh, which is in northern Canaan. The battle of Jericho, thats also in Canaan. All the battles were within their entitled territory. Plain and simple.
ScholarVisual 4 weeks ago
@TheHigherVoltage And im not saying the afterlife is synonymous with God.Im trying to show you that their is a deeper reason why all the religions around the world have the same concepts. Its not all fear and ignorance.I could go to the deepest darkest part of the Amazon.A people cut off from all civilization.And you know what? I promise you that tribe will pray to some deity and theyll believe when they die they go somewhere else. Something happened to make humans start believing in such things
ScholarVisual 4 weeks ago
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@ScholarVisual "Im trying to show you that their is a deeper reason why all the religions around the world have the same concepts."
They don't. Some religions do not believe in God(s) or afterlifes. Some religions believe in many God(s) and no afterlife, just reincarnation.
".I could go to the deepest darkest part of the Amazon.A people cut off from all civilization.And you know what? I promise you..." stop.
The Piraha people proves your promise empty and wrong.
TheHigherVoltage 4 weeks ago
@ScholarVisual " They werent trying to make an Empire." claiming their descendants would cover the earth, is a declaration of building an empire.
All religious cultures (we know of) started as polytheistic. "One God" wasn't a concept until self-proclaimed 'holymen' realized it's easier to control with one god than many.
#2 afterlife isn't synonymous with god. even the jewish cult didn't add a promises of an after life till half way through the OT.
TheHigherVoltage 4 weeks ago
@TheHigherVoltage Now your reaching, Listen, Having your descendants cover the world is very different from having your kingdom covering the world. The descendants of the Israelites have actually covered the world. Some of them migrated as for as China. You have the Falasha in Ethiopia. Some migrated to south Africa. And of course you have Poland, Russia, and Germany. And New York city actually has more Jews then in Israel. So the descendants of Israel have began to cover the world.
ScholarVisual 4 weeks ago
@ScholarVisual I'm not reaching, you're making a false claim.
Just one example that refutes your position : "Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the LORD, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy." - Zephaniah 3:8-9
Psychotic megalomania. No different than the 'every knee will bow' crap.
TheHigherVoltage 4 weeks ago
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@TheHigherVoltage Once again, that verse has nothing to do with Isreal creating an empire. This is God pouring out his vengeance on the nations. "I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger". That has nothing to do with the expansion of Israel at all. This is Gods wrath on all of humanity. Hes gathering the nations to punish them. Not to build an Empire. "for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy" Do actually read these verses
ScholarVisual 4 weeks ago
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@ScholarVisual "And their battles during their travels were within the territory that God had given to them."
It's interesting that a God who orders his people not to kill, also orders them to kill.
"The battles then became about keeping their land." Once again...it's interesting that the creator of the universe, who claims to protect his 'chosen people', can't.
TheHigherVoltage 4 weeks ago
@TheHigherVoltage Another thing you need to understand is God had a covenant with Israel. A covenant works like a contract. Israel kept breaching the agreement. They disobeyed numerous times. And thats what lost them a lot of battles. They didnt keep their end of the bargain. They always fell into idolatry. And that would be a breach of contract. So they suffered the consequences of breaking their covenant.
ScholarVisual 4 weeks ago
@TheHigherVoltage And Im not trying to compare atrocities. Im trying to show you when a nation is at war people die. Thats how it works. So when you read the old testament you have to have the frame of reference of a people at war.
ScholarVisual 4 weeks ago
@ScholarVisual That's what I would wish more Christians did. I suppose Christians do better about distancing themselves from the idiots than say the Muslims.
thelordmemnoch 1 month ago
@thelordmemnoch Trust me. We have plenty of idiots. I believe in the bible but i dont go to church. I cant stomach the hypocrisy.
ScholarVisual 1 month ago
enough with the "where do you get your morals from" none-sense. Same place you do. It's common sense to know that a place where people don't go around raping is a better place. You already admit that. Why do you need to have imposed onto you a rule that you already understand and approve of? If I convinced you that there is no god, would you start raping just because?
And that's not even getting into the fact that fair-trade morals are hard-wired into primate behaviour (which includes humans).
darkmater4tm 1 month ago
4:30 "And then you just rape a bunch of people and then shoot yourself. What's going to be the punishment for you?" If that sort of thing sickens you then contribute to a society where it's prevented rather than relying on coercion from the "big stick" that is religion. I find most "morally religious" people profoundly lazy in that they pass the buck to God rather than having to consider the hard issues. "God has to tell us because I'm too limited to think of why people don't rape everyone."
chinngis83 1 month ago
This guy's line of thinking is so typical. It must be a religious trait to think so little of our species that we are incapable of establishing morality on our own; that we have to coerced into being moral. And no, there is no penalty besides death for the person who rapes a bunch of people and then kills himself. Andrew's lust for judgment and fear of a chaotic society leads him to ignore our capacity to produce morality/ethics by examining and predicting the effects of actions.
chinngis83 1 month ago
Oh, shit it's that prank caller best known as "Mark" from Austin Stone church. I never realized how many aliases he's called in under.
sweetsweatyfeet 1 month ago
@sweetsweatyfeet The most recent call from him was with a British/Australian accent.
HyperSchmizzle 1 month ago
I'm just loving this. The web, and this show, have exposed religion for what it is. And Matt's consumate Biblical knowledge (oh, the part about lust?) mingled with skepticism, logic, and a genuine anger at the problems makes it perfect. They come, they try, they fail. And the whole fucking world is watching as god dies.
ProblemHonorStudent 1 month ago
It's awkward being friends with people who believe you are going to hell.
dopeasfuckk 1 month ago 17
I don't believe anyone.
maxwellpassion 2 months ago
This is a classic Matt-slap!! :P
EllyMcCormack 2 months ago
This segment is so fucking win.
Phi1618033 2 months ago
Another Xian bites the dust.
roner61 2 months ago
how many names has Mark called in under in the history of the show? Anyone?
plarfusa 2 months ago
Japan does not have the lowest rape rates. they have they one of the lowest reported rape rates. it actually pretty high.
elroyrigsby 2 months ago
@elroyrigsby so if all these rapes are unreported how is it you know about them...?
yunged 2 months ago
@elroyrigsby How would you know if the rate were high if they were never reported?
blarghblarghblargh 2 months ago
@elroyrigsby You can not quantify the unreported reports, that makes no sense. Unless you try to compare the ratio of population of a given country to another country population. That way you can not say in this matter the rate is higher, simply because you lack the knowledge of the quantity of actual missing reports.
hdfailure 1 month ago
Wtf!? the word is MUSLIM, there is no O or Z in the damn word! Geez!, religious or not at least say the friggin word correctly smh
ajstylesclash1 2 months ago
holy shit ! that means i commit adultary 50 times a day
id have to poke my eyes out to be a christian !
Mark777X 2 months ago
The bible is a pile of shit fictional story and this show should be called two faggot with coffee
lawnboyinthehood1980 2 months ago
That single dislike on the video is probably the idiot who called in
bencapra 2 months ago
I like raping everybody while they all rape me. . . it makes my dull Sunday nights more entertaining as I am a Bills fan and have to get my excitement from other sources
bencapra 2 months ago
that whole ..rape a buncha people and shoot yourself in the head..thing,it sounds to me like he got an idea and he's mulling it over.....reeeal hard
thanksforthemessdick 2 months ago
5:13 Pawned!!!
Cuythulu 2 months ago
pwned so hard
MASSRCOR 2 months ago
I just love this goons grunts of frustration as he gets slaughtered in the end.
TheSkunkCat 3 months ago 2
I guess by this idiot's reasoning then Matt is raping people right now
Seldomsleeper 3 months ago
I wonder if these callers ever leave these conversations feeling good about themselves.
Cdubzhappy 3 months ago
Excellent video.
As a swede though, I would like to point out that we do have a rape problem recently. If you check statistics for rapes per capita in Europe, Sweden is in the lead.
Trunkerad 3 months ago
Punishment is an immoral and unintelligent concept.
chibraxial 3 months ago
Never before have I seen such a systematic and - most shockingly of all - EFFECTIVE dismantling of an irrational standpoint.
Excellent video.
SeedsOfHatred 3 months ago
totally mark... I love the days before they recognized him...
ryansling 3 months ago
"Andrew" is Mark from Austin Stone Church.
ciaochowbella 3 months ago 2
After all of this, I just don't see how that guy or anyone, could walk from that with their beliefs in-tact.
Pumasds 3 months ago
It almost sounds like the caller has been considering in engaging in rape, and the only holding him back is his Christian conscience. Now, he's rationalizing by saying, "Well, I think you're going to have more happiness in your life, if you have limits to tell you what you can do."
Hanahleia 3 months ago 2
*and I guess we won't* haha love that
GodOfUnbelief 3 months ago
this is "mark" hes called under like 6 different names.
420simpson 3 months ago 2
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2:29 o.o creapy..
Cryolyptic 3 months ago
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Cryolyptic 3 months ago
Every time Andrew calls in and at the end of the call he finally admits defeat and just says "well I just think religion is good for society" as if thats all its good for and everything else is a tall tale. Even that so called fact is a lie that its good for society as Matt said that statistics show that less religious societies have less crime etc. Don't you want to be on the side of truth before you die?
baxtar2012 3 months ago
These Christians always say that if we didn't have the Bible then men would all go around Raping women as if they didn't know that God loves rape. He took another mans woman and impregnated her (Mary) He also told the men to kill the other tribesmen hundreds of times in multiple battles and rape the women or take them same thing. Who thinks that they went willingly? Who thinks they didn't get raped? Actually God isn't real and the men doing the evil needed to blame someone.
baxtar2012 3 months ago 12
The long sigh said it all.
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lightandbeautiful 3 months ago
Listening to this again for the tenth time, I'm amazed I never noticed it was 'Mark' before.He has the same faltering, pleading pattern of speech.
000phill000 3 months ago
I like the doc's point that your religion or belief is just an accident of birth
hawkertruffelsnout 3 months ago
This is the fake Mark austin church guy right?
wretcherwretch 3 months ago
why is it almost every christian that calls say so many stupid things (no offense meant, sincerely). i know tehre are logical smart crhistians out there... that might of course not be able to prove anything but at least say some more sustainable arguments.
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Chaoitcme 4 months ago
Matt blows me away sometimes. As if he just calls up the passage without any physical reference. Amazing.
Kintarius 4 months ago
Out of all the Atheist experience smackdowns I gotta admit that this one was particularly vicious. Man, at certain points you can HEAR the wheels turning in the caller's head.
Tatchko 4 months ago 3
I feel so privilaged to live in the age of question and reason. Although I am proud of our nature as secular humanists and atheists (call us what you will) to listen to the alternative and often insane ideas of origin of existence and morality, I do get frustrated with the fact that we grant dis-illusioned religious zealots an audience as if their "argument" (I use the term loosely) has any substance to it and should be heard. Religion gives no respect, and as such, should receive no respect.
bootneckbonz 4 months ago 2
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God is a spirit, an immaterial conscious being. All things in the universe consists of matter and/or energy, so if God isn't matter, is energy by definition. Energy is the capacity to do work, is eternal, omnipresent, wasn't created and can't be destroyed, can create matter, was the only thing present before the BB, and the energy required to make the universe must had been powerful. All these match Biblical descriptions of God. Therefore is plausible God exists.
dejesusluisx 4 months ago
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Andrew, Matt, and all the other names this lying christian from Stone church in Austin uses, shows that my many comments on how easily christians lie to be true.
Please christians don't leave your foolish posts expecting a dialog with me,
I don't have discussions with brain dead people as it is only a waste of time.
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lightandbeautiful 4 months ago
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You're a huge idiot.
wretcherwretch 3 months ago
this is mark.....
krypekeeper 4 months ago
It can't be about finding out the truth, because there are different ways of translating the Bible. The main problem with this guy is he thinks the words of Jesus are always literal and apply to everyone exactly as they were translated, not just when and how they were used at the time. That caller did a bad job and the hosts were quite proud, sickening.
davis2387 4 months ago
Some atheists do the exact thing they criticize Christians for, it's really the same type of dogma. I mean, just like any religious people that try to tell you why they're right and your wrong, these guys do exactly that.
davis2387 4 months ago
@davis2387 dogma: "A principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true."
Atheism has no set of principles, no authority figures that tell us what or how to think. Atheism is simply the rejection of claims that gods exist.
What have the hosts done that they criticize christians for? They give callers an opportunity to demonstrate that their claims are true. When the callers fail do so, the hosts explain why their arguments failed. It's pretty straightforward.
YY4Me133 4 months ago 22
@YY4Me133 Very well said, mate. Thank "God" we are enlightened enough to have the balls to have our own oppinions!
bootneckbonz 4 months ago
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PowerCoefficient 4 months ago
Owned.
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lightandbeautiful 5 months ago
Christ, he asks a question, gets a true, honest, realistic and fair answer and then COMPLETELY ignores the response and just asks another question.. What is the fucking point? Really? Why? He's not after answers hes just trying to 'stump' the 'atheist movement' to prove a point.
And failing.
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If you listen carefully, you can actually hear his faith dying.
ggulre 5 months ago
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ggulre 5 months ago
I love Darryl Ray
XAsbestos 5 months ago
This caller has been confirmed 100% as a troll.
newcoyote 5 months ago
"Let's just say you go out with a gun, and rape a bunch of people then you just shoot yourself, what's gonna be the punishment for you?"
"Uhh, I'll be DEAD?"
So DERP that the caller didn't think of that in the first place. XD
P.S. If carefully, you can hear the camera people laughing at that in the background.
MindOfGenius 5 months ago
i am a christian and i agree with thatis true without sexual desire not many would get married but of course love and faithfullness should be the other foundations too.
Adam in the bible had sexual desire!
casablanca4381 6 months ago
@casablanca4381 but did adam have balls before eve was created, though?
topperheartramada 5 months ago
Westboro Baptist Church people say God hates fags. That does not make sense because God is supposed to have created them. Why would he create something he hates? I don't understand why they don't understand that perfectly simple logic. I just wanted to mention that.
jeremythehuman 6 months ago 2
@jeremythehuman God supposedly created Satan too...guess he needed someone to battle =)
harveylegs 5 months ago 3
I can understand the idea that a man who looks at a woman lustfully is doing something wrong. I don't agree, but I can understand the idea. But adultery is a two-person crime. So is the woman also doing something wrong because some random guy thinks she's attractive?
BibleThumpingAtheist 6 months ago
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Well the filthy whore probably was walking around with her face and body uncovered.
Insulted25 6 months ago
The caller was not looking for truth, he was looking to win an argument. At 5:15 Matt clearly wins the question of punishment for crimes as per the xian system & the caller stumbles, hard, but for only a moment & then his xian programming kicks in & he (a) ignores the reality that Matt has presented him & then (b) come out swinging at 6:45
The mind of a xian is so flawed & this for me equates to living proof that this religion is a mental disease.
P.S. Fuck those assholes who wrote the bibull.
atrumira 6 months ago
Oh hi mark
ZooseyBear 6 months ago
this is my fav clip from this show and i've seen about 500 or clips now
AirBoyPlummets 6 months ago
Fuck it. I'm gonna worship Matt! I'm now a Mattian! :D
DeluxeSux 6 months ago
Norway; Christian fundamentalist kills 77 people. Way to go, god.
lewisner 7 months ago
@lewisner c'mon, that man is a complete mental case. he is not part of a christian denomination that promotes violence. he seems just as concerned with the immigration policies and the deep cultural crisis that europeans are experiencing as he is with religion. i am sure there are militant atheists (most people in norway are) who could do the same thing, not for religious reasons. not many, though. to start shooting kids like that really takes a complete psycopath.
topperheartramada 5 months ago
@topperheartramada " i am sure there are militant atheists (most people in norway are) who could do the same thing" But they DON'T. To do something like this you have to be pretty detached from reality and believing in an Invisible Man In The Sky, Angels, Demons, the Devil and a Talking Snake involves being detached from reality doesn't it?
lewisner 5 months ago
@lewisner hey, we have had communist groups blow up buildings and kill lots of civilians. red army faction in germany in the 70s is a good example. extreme political ideas can flourish among atheists as well. we are still waiting to see what the team of psychiatrists will say about anders berivik so i am not sure yet. but religion is probably only part of his motivation. a lot of what he says could also be said by an extremist atheist who is strongly opposed to immigration policies.
topperheartramada 5 months ago
@lewisner hey, we have had communist groups blow up buildings and kill lots of civilians. red army faction in germany in the 70s is a good example. extreme political ideas can flourish among atheists as well. we are still waiting to see what the team of psychiatrists will say about anders berivik so i am not sure yet. but religion is probably only part of his motivation. a lot of what he says could also be said by an extremist atheist who is strongly opposed to immigration policies.
topperheartramada 5 months ago
@topperheartramada all you're talking about it people with strong ideologies. Idiology is the problem whether it be religious or otherwise. Atheism in general doesn't have an idology, it's a reject of one.
spmcd2011 4 months ago
"You're trying to control what I think, and that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard."
Magnificent verbal bitchslap.
"If a guy goes around and rapes a bunch of people and then gets saved, what's the punishment for him?"
(deafening silence)
Thought so. Complete and utter pwnage for more than ten minutes.
JMUDoc 7 months ago 2
the caller got matt when he asked him what limits do athesit have, matt ignored the question and they just cut to the next guy. hahahaha oh atheist.
rubberband3456 7 months ago
@rubberband3456 I liked part where he refuted and deflected all of Matt's logic with "whe, ummm, er, hmmm".
He didn't get Matt AT ALL. He got OWNED. And rightly so. Why answer a question with such a FUCKING OBVIOUS answer? Any viewer with half fuckin' a brain would know the answer anyway. The rest won't care.
DeluxeSux 7 months ago
@rubberband3456 Matt ignored the question? No, maybe we should listen to it again. He specifically said he based it on "reality" and thoughtfully examining the situation. That's not avoiding the question. It's based on everybody looking at the situation in question, figuring out what would be the best possible situation for society and the individual and how it can be realistically carried out. "oh atheists" indeed. The suggestion we use 2000 yr old morality that contradicts itself is better?
rrpostalagain 7 months ago
LOL! 9:46 Matt's blatantly flicking the V's thinking "fuck you." :D
And Matt does rape people... He bent this idiot over and pwned his juicy star-fruit. Badly.
DeluxeSux 7 months ago
Very good flip Matt. Rapists go to heaven=bullshit
tuck5649 7 months ago 2
Fantastic video. The caller demonstrates a lot that is bad about religion & just how much it skews thinking. It makes me sad when I hear this faith derived mind corruption as it reminds me of what I was like. I don't blame people, I blame the religion itself.
uncleboring 7 months ago