Hells Bells - Trevor Time - The Record 479

[Pokerstarsvevo]

National League is the best league

[dumbshitaward]

Wonder what the Padres are feeding their closers...

Hoffman was argueably one of the best ever, after he left Bell stepped right in and went on where Hoffman stopped and if/when he leaves Mike Adams will probably do the same thing.

Padres may be an average team, however probably the best wins per $ ratio in the league but basically you're only play 8 innings against them

[Lennon4life1968]

3 best intro's in Baseball: Hoffman, Rivera and Rick Vaughn..lol

[brewerfan727]

As a Brewer fan Trevor has givin us a lot of great moments, 2010 hasn't been a good year but to see him get 600 was something special. Seeing Hells Bells at beautiful Miller Park is awesome, It must have been a honor to watch this man pitch in San Diego throughout his glory years

[nyyanksrdbest]

Career WHIP (not since 97, but career) Rivera- 1.00 Hoffman- 1.06 Career K/BB ratio Rivera- 3.97 Hoffman- 3.74 Career BAA Rivera- .209 Hoffman- .211 Again man, I'm not insulting Hoffman, I'm just saying you have to show me something besides total saves (Which Rivera BEATS Hoffman in since he became a closer), that shows why Hoffman is more dominant. Just simply asking why you think that. Again I can go on and on with numbers

[LifeIsPeachee]

@nyyanksrdbest Dude you're just splitting hairs now with these stats, theyre too close to really separate them from each other over the course of their careers. And of course Rivera has more saves since 97, you do realize Hoffman played for the Padres right?

[nyyanksrdbest]

@LifeIsPeachee

Yeah, Rivera played for the Yankees, the team who has been amongst the top offenses in baseball and very so often win big blowout games, as oposed to the Padres who have been about an average team the past 10 years or so and playing in more close games

That has nothing to do with anything, Hoffman and Rivera have the same role, to protect a lead, whether the score is 1-0 or 12-11.

I just saw that Hoffman and Rivera have the lowest ERA since the pitchers mound lowered in 1961

[nyyanksrdbest]

LifeisPeachTree, I will show you from 1997 to 2010 how many seasons Rivera and Hoffman have done the following

# of seasons out of a possible 14

ERA Under 2

Rivera- 10

Hoffman- Just 2 (I shouldn't say just, but compared to Rivera 2 is a lot less than 10)

WHIP Under 1.00

Rivera- 7

Hoffman- 6

Rivera has an ERA+ of AT LEAST 144 eveyr single year in his career since 97, Hoffman has only done that 8 times

Technically Hoffman's 2003 seaeson shouldn't count since he only pitched 9 innings all year

[SOyouTHINKurFUNNY]

i miss trevor :(

[scorekeepn]

I moved to Reno three years ago, lived in San Diego my whole life (45 years) up till then. Your video shows the only thing I miss about SD...the baseball games. And of course Trevor Hoffman (who was waived???)

I will say this....go Chula Vista in the little league WS!

[guitarmagic95]

who cares about mariano, this video is about TREVOR HOFFMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ShesskyDaddy]

Mariano has his devastating cutter, Hoffman his devastating changeup...they are both the best closers in their respective leagues. And they both have absolutely awesome entrances. Both are great.

[TheHordehater]

see i think that Hoffmen is better than 'Mo' as USDToreros93 said another yankee faggot. Mo is a great closer but he is given more chances to save and has a better team. The padres suck (no offense padres fans) i bet if Trevor was given a better team (the brewers are good but aren't fully developed) he would do better

[ColonelStinkmeaner]

Please, Mo is the best closer ever.

He has the best ERA+ of all time, 3rd best WHIP in history ( best active ) and is the greatest playoffs closer ever.

The reason why Mo doesn't have as many saves is because he joined the MLB 2 years after Hoffman did and he wasn't even the closer until 97.

Mo > Hoffman

[nyyanksrdbest]

Yeah, People who say Hoffman is better have shown no stat but saves to prove it lol

Not to mention Hoffman pitched in the worst division in baseball for quite some time, and Rivera was in the AL East full time, facing against hitters like David Ortiz instead of facing a pinch hitter

Hoffman career ERA vs. AL has a 3.36 ERA

Mariano Rivera career vs. NL teams is a 1.98 ERA

I have nothing against Hoffman at all, but he is no Mariano

[ironlife421]

bullcrap. padres sucked when hoffman was saving all those games, yankees were actually giving mariano leads. hoffman > mariano

[nyyanksrdbest]

What are you talking about? Hoffman and Rivera have the same role, to close out games....Their offense has nothing to do with them closing games, it's about them shutting down the opposing offense

[ironlife421]

what i'm saying is that the padres need to giv the close leads to actually close the game. hoffman didn't get alot of chances either, take last year for example, they only won 63 games. that means that hoffman only came in about 40 times that year. yankees won alot more then that, so rivera could of come in alot more then just 40 times.

[nyyanksrdbest]

Based on a 162 game average, Hoffman gets 41 saves and plays in 68 games

Rivera gets 38 saves and plays in 67 games

Nontheless though, saves are overrated and so are W-L, by far

[LifeIsPeachee]

@nyyanksrdbest Yea you're right man, I guess being in the same division as guys like Barry Bonds and Todd Helton their whole careers just doesn't match up to the mighty David Ortiz... I really think Yankee fans get ass hurt by the fact that Rivera isn't the consensus best closer of all time because it seems like a lot of you go out of your way to try and discredit what Hoffman has done.

[nyyanksrdbest]

@LifeIsPeachee

Ummm, apparently you don't look at much stats

First of all, Barry Bonds and Todd Helton are 2 players. I wonder how many times a pinch hitter as faced Hoffman as opposed to a DH. And there have been so many great DH's over the years. Thome, Ortiz, Frank Thomas, Giambi.

I am not discrediting Hoffman in any way whatsoever, all i said was, Rivera has been better.

By the way, Bonds is 5-18 lifetime off of Hoffman with 2 HR's.

Helton is 13-24 (.542 average) with 1 HR. Irrelevant

[LifeIsPeachee]

@nyyanksrdbest How do pinch hitters devalue a save? The pitcher still has to get them out, and it isn't that pitcher's fault if a pinch hitter is sent up there. Rivera and Hoffman's ERAs vs the other league is a misleading stat because they haven't faced them nearly as much as their own leagues' teams. Hoffman and Rivera would have been every bit as dominant had they been in the opposite league for their careers.

[nyyanksrdbest]

@LifeIsPeachee

How about you get a look at Rivera's career stats against the NL and Hoffman's career stats against the AL

Hoffman- 3.28 ERA career (Lifetime ERA of 2.86)

Rivera vs. the National League- 1.84 ERA (2.21 Lifetime)

Once again, I am not discrediting Hoffman, all I've said was, Rivera has been better.

The funny thing is, the people here who have said Hoffman is better have provided NO STATS except Total Saves which is COMPLETELY irrelevant

By that logic, Franco > Eckersly

[LifeIsPeachee]

@nyyanksrdbest And don't say that total number of saves means nothing because thats wrong and you know it. Might as well say the all time home run record means nothing either. 596 saves should be enough proof that he's been doing something right over his career. You keep saying that it's "fact" that Rivera is better, but you haven't really given anything concrete either other than the misleading AL vs. NL arguement, Major League hitters are Major League hitters regardless of the league

[nyyanksrdbest]

@LifeIsPeachee

I never said total saves don't mean anything, I said just because Hoffman has more saves doesn't mean he was a better closer. I've already provided so many stats as to show he's better, yet your argument is Hoffman has more saves? That's such bologna.

Hoffman also has 3 more years of closing than Rivera has.

Rivera became a closer in 1997

Since you're such a fan of total saves it seems, look at this:

Since 1997, Rivera has 542 saves. Hoffman has 498 saves.

[Ambivular]

Debate about clutch and stuff all you want. Mariano Rivera is simply, flat out, not as good a pitcher as Trevor Hoffman.

I'm not a Padres fan or anything, but I am a huge pitching fan. Yankees fans, though, are hilarious.

And besides, Enter Sandman doesn't have nearly the same amount as style and coolness as Hell's Bells has for an entrance. :P

[nyyanksrdbest]

@Ambivular

Know what's more hilarious than Yankee fans? Yankee Haters like yourself.

Again Yaneke hater, PROVIDE STATS which show Hoffman has been better?

Oh wiat, YOU CAN'T, unless you show Total Saves

I have NOTHING against Trevor Hoffman, but compared to Rivera, he's 2nd best. And I'm not saying that because I'm a Yankee fan, I'm saying that, because it's a fact.

You Mariano haters are hilarious, none of you prove anything, you're just making statements. Facts are facts, Opinions arent

[THEZachRastall]

@nyyanksrdbest I think Trevor's better. That's an opinion. You think Mariano's better. That's an opinion, not a fact.

[nyyanksrdbest]

@THEZachRastall

But numbers and stats are facts, and numbers and stats show Rivera leads Hoffman in MANY categories outside of saves and strikeouts

If I may ask you, in your opinion, why is Trevor better?

[THEZachRastall]

@nyyanksrdbest Bottom line, more saves. Plus, Hell's Bells trumps Enter Sandman.

[nyyanksrdbest]

@THEZachRastall LOL, More saves? That's just ignorance if you think that's what makes a closer better (No offense). When John Franco retired, he was 2nd all time in saves, did that mean at the time of retirement he was the 2nd best closer of all time? lmao

I like AC/DC more than Metallica by far, but I think I like those 2 songs equally.

[THEZachRastall]

@nyyanksrdbest Whoops, I forgot. A New Yorker couldn't possibly be wrong.

[nyyanksrdbest]

@THEZachRastall

lol except I'm not wrong, I provided stats which are facts.

Whoops, I forgot, a non New Yorker is always right

[THEZachRastall]

@nyyanksrdbest Fact: New York fans are some of the biggest assholes in all of sports.

[nyyanksrdbest]

@THEZachRastall Okay I'm not arguing that. And here's a fact, Yankee haters are the most jealous fans in all of sports.

[masterd151]

@THEZachRastall of course. hells bells destroys enter sandman any day

[altamuramarc]

@THEZachRastall you couldnt be more wrong

[nyyanksrdbest]

@altamuramarc Don't listen to him then. If their theory is more saves = the best closer, then that means John Franco was better than Goose Gossage, Dennis Eckersly and Rollie Fingers, all of them are HOFers. Franco didn't even make it to a 2nd ballot.

[altamuramarc]

@nyyanksrdbest read the comment below me and learn something

[nyyanksrdbest]

@altamuramarc The only thing I learn from reading your comments is Stupidity. I don't listen to Stupids. Bye now. 

[altamuramarc]

@nyyanksrdbest learn something about baseball so you actually come with a convincing argument.

[nyyanksrdbest]

@altamuramarc. Learning from an ignorant person would just make me ignorant. You obviously are ignorant when it comes to baseball, so there's nothing for me to learn from you.

[nyyanksrdbest]

@altamuramarc Actually my mistake, I was referring to @THEZachRastall.

@Pokerstarsvevo, National League is the best league? Based on what if I may ask? Certainly not hitting. Pitching, maybe.

[dapokercat]

Trevor is a welcome addition to the Brewers.

[Julian1686]

COME BACK HOME TREVER !!!!!!!!!!!

[racerzeke]

as if heath bell is doing terrible

[wnchegle45]

definitely

[wnchegle45]

nah mariano is the shit

[USDToreros93]

Trevor Hoffman=Best Closer ever, until someone has more saves there is no argument

[forshizzle3334]

Trevor Hoffman=Best Closer ever, really did u forget about that certain month after september when only the good teams play. I know San Diego fans aren't used to it and prob think ever team ends when theres does since they never play in october. Marino is the best ever because he did the clutch all the time and lowest postseason ERA. Coming soon before he retired the all time saves record.

[USDToreros93]

Closing has nothing to do with how good your team is. If they get you a lead in the ninth inning you come in and close in a clutch situation. Trevor Hoffman has more than "Mo"(Another yankee faggot) and always will have more.

[erickvllgsyup]

anyone who thinks this joke is better than mariano rivera is an idiot....nothing against trevor hoffman but hes nowhere near the level of Mo...you can throw total saves out the window a closer makes his money in clutch situations...in that regard mariano has a distinct advantage

[bbalsian]

hahaha! every close is a clutch situation. if you play baseball you know that!

[erickvllgsyup]

stupid im talking about the postseason playoffs the world series all that...Mariano has consistently dominated in these situations.....Trevor can collect 45 saves(AVG) every season between April and september but everyone will remember mariano.and dont even try to bring up the 01 WS or 04 ALCS.

[danzaranz6]

hmm well mariano gets more opurtunities... how come he doesnt have more saves even though he plays for the "better" team?

[magandaumaga870]

i went 2 the game right before this

when trevor got 478

it was awsome

[Superllamas]

Woooh I was there! It was awesome

[dimars123]

The best part of the padres games are THE HELL BELLS, go padres go hoffman.

[bellatoro]

no offense but he has a little more than 479, but still its awesome. i love him walking into hell's bells. but im a braves fan, so im not going to compliment you that much.

[lasigmaman]

You stay classy, San Diego!

[jfish2566]

i feel so bad 4 him for wat happened with the rockies im a yankee fan but i mean even if i wasnt mos still a better closer trevors up there wit him and he has the best entrance in baseball ive always liked him even when he plays the yanks

[uwilbsorry]

it was a great game. I was right above the Padre dugout. I cried lol. Padre fan for a lifetime.

Anyone who has been there during Trevor Time experiences the chills that run down your spine, this time was the ultimate chill. Great video.

Even though he blew both games between milwaukee and colorado, i'll never stop loving hoffy.

You rock Trevor, better luck nect year!

[asiandude9090]

Chilling stuff here.......

[BamBooChaZ]

um.. what happend? :P

[sergei56num1]

the best intro in baseball by far

[j2azorblade]

That first bell made tears come to my eyes

[sdemerald]

ahh "Hells Bells" the sweet sound San Diegans love to hear when its Trevor Time :)