When i joined the army cadets last year, i needed to buy equipment, so i did, and i bought a snugpack sleeper zero camo sleeping bag for £40, It looked really comfortable so i decided to test it one night by creeping out of my room and sleeping in my garden with it in my army tent, i slept all the way through the night without feeling one bit cold it was boiling in my sleeping bag, one of the best nights ive ever had! :D so i decided to camp out there for the week and my mom thought i was wierd
The system works great. I am actually a NCO in the US Army and have spent many nights in the dirt and/or mud in this system. It is top notch and is in fact water proof. It is important to use it in the proper configuration and also make sure that it is sealed and treated properly. For Extreme Cold Weather the black bag would be the most inner layer followed by the green liner and then the Bivy. It is important not to dry the bivy in a dryer as it losses it's water proofing in extreme heat.
@usbrotherhood11b Great info! These do work great, don't they. I've never slept in a better bivy. This could also be attributed to the fact that in the Army, whenever we're sleeping in the field, it's been a long ass day and you could probably sleep anywhere and in anything. haha
These bivy bags look great. An alternative for those who want to go fast and light/er though... I have a Mountain Hardwear Ultralamina 45 sleeping bag. These are unbelievably compact and light for the warmth they provide, brilliantly designed. You could use one of these and have the warmer model as well, that Army bivy bag and you'd have an awesome customised lightweight version of the military modular sleep system.
i had one of these at a boyscout camp and waas sleeping in a crappy tent when it happened to rain all night. I woke up in the morning laying in a puddle almost completely dry while my friends were completely soaked, overall a great system but it has the price to go with it.
umm the black one is the liner the green one goes on the outside of the black one. you use the green for summer the black for fall and combine for winter. use with polypros to get to -50*F. i own this set and was issued it in army.
@solobackpacking they are used at very low temps all the time. i personaly have been down to -15*F with them. and know of others who have been colder. my trip to weekends ago it got to -17*F and my buddy used that system just fine. have you actually tried it or just going by looks because they do work quite well and the water resistance of the bag are amazing by themselves without the bivy but with it near waterproof when treat properly. you should give it a try before totally giving up on them
The army system was meant to be economical and durable, not warm or comfort. After all the people who makes the budget are not the ones that have to use these things. Way too bulky and heavy to be used in a sensible backpacking trip. However, reasonable for mobile deployment.
@solobackpacking i have to disagree there because i think they are the most comfortable ive ever used and when used correctly they are very warm and the set combined goes to -50*F when you wear the army polypro's with it. the black bag is bulky but the green one is very compactable. the bivy is very packable as well. i have used many name brand bags like mountainhardware, northface, granitegear, kelty, eureka, etc... and still prefer the army ones...
Love this system! the newer ACU for me seems to be a better Bivy back set up. i agree with actionbath above. It will keep you warm in weather you thought you would be cold in down to -20. I have had it down to -10 and was quite warm in the rockies. The only down side I see with it is it is small for me(side sleeeper) and moisture can get in. It goes with me when ever I may be below freezing though. Mix and match the bags depending on temp.
The US Army "fartsacks" (the green and black bags) are trash, but the bivy is unbeatable. Even other civilian Goretex bivies are nothing more than plastic bags that hold in condensation and don't breathe at all. And it's super durable too.
If you're in the US military, put away those black and green rucksack fillers, and buy a 600 or 800 fill down bag. Combine it with this bivy and you can sleep anywhere with half the weight and size.
I own 2 of these bags. Paid 150 for one, and 200 for the 2nd. Camped last Wed, and temps down to 29F, winds out of the NW at 12mph. NO TENT, and NO CAMPFIRE. I did sleep in a hammock with polar fleece long underwear on, and was toasty warm all night. Something else that works great with these bags is to throw some warmers in them prior to unrolling, and then toss them down to the feet for the night, and you should be good to well below zero, and yes an empty bottle for when nature calls.
I have a question. I notice that a lot of military surplus from Germany is either made of Goretex or uses it in it construction. Was Goretex invented in Germany or something? If not, what country did it come from?
I've used this system a lot. It will keep you warm in Bosnian winters, or in high desert winters. Use the compression bags, and they will compress to a surprisingly small volume for a sleeping bag.
I've used this system in all four seasons when I was in the Marine Corps and it works great! My sack never leaked... by far my favorite system. The black stuff sack isn't waterproof, however the gortex bivy is, I always used the bivy on the outside and did a stuff/roll combo to save space. If you're concerned about weight, however, this isn't for you; stick to just the gortex bivy, poncho liner and and Isomat. I now own this full system and will be using it yet again in a couple days...
@Pilotusmc2 Also, if you're going on a minimalist trip and/or you enjoy hammock camping, this system works great with any hammock as well. And for warm nights and for those of you not worried about venomous snakes cuddling with you, you can make a tube tent type structure with fallen branches and 550 cord. Unzip the bivy all the way, and turn it sideways. curl the sides under, lay down your poncho then isomat. Spray some garlic snake repellent at the front opening if you like... haha!
@actonbath Someone who does it the way I do! And I agree with ninjadude126. I combine certain bivys with a hammock (Air conducts heat less quickly), and if its quite cold (30 or less) maybe a thin, short mat for my midsection, since the material is compressed by your weight. A small tarp hung low will do the rest. This all cuts out on several pounds of weight and half a backpack of space.
I've used one of these for the past ten years or so, and they work very well. The bivvy bag has saved me a soaking on several occasions, including sleeping in it during a light rain storm. I have two sets, my currently issued one, and the one I bought. Good piece of kit.
I LOVE mine ! I have had it for a few years now and have used it alot. Like you said, you have 3 bags that you can use independently or all together to make a great winter bag. I currently have the Bivy and the green patrol bag together in my pack. I purchased mine off ebay for $120.
I was told by my Army Ranger next door that this unit isn't waster proof. I would take it to the backyard, climb inside and have someone take a hose to it and let us know the outcome (please).
@TheBgcheez it is water proof to a point, I used the system when I was in the Army and I just got a "new" system at a surplus store my only complaint is how bulky it is when you have all three parts in the stuff sack.
@TheBgcheez cant post a link in the comments but there are many canadian online surplus store that sell it... didnt find any in the usa but it doesnt make a big difference in price
@TheBgcheez You can go to Ebay and buy them. Just put in Modular Sleeping bag and this will come up. I bought mine online and after 6 years, it is still in awesome condition!
@TheBgcheez no it isnt water proof it is only water resistant. while in army as a medic we were taught to use the poncho as a tarp over this setup. listen to your friend he sounds smarter.
@TheBgcheez i used it during a snow storm. snow would accumulate and melt. there was water on the inside of the gortex layer like water was condensing or seeping through. not enough to drip though like some tents.
@TheBgcheez They aren't 100% waterproof. I slept through a severe thunderstorm in one last summer, woke up in a puddle. I was mildly moist, but def not wet. Since then I've treated it with silicone spray and have yet to get one drop of moisture inside.
@TheBgcheez Trust me... these are waterproof. I've spent many a pouring rainy night in fort benning in one of these. Even slept through a tornado..... They are great! Great Video!
@Strelnikov10 Thank you for your service, soldier. Please accept my apologies that we have allowed your country to be corrupted by the Marxist filth to the degree that we have.
@Wikipunani I appreciate you comment and your concern, but please keep politics away from my service. This video has nothing to do with politics. It's a gear video, let's keep it about the gear.
@Wikipunani I ain't censoring shit. Just letting you know that I don't want my service to my brothers to be dragged into politics. If you truly believe that everything is political, even a survival gear review, then you are going to have a long, miserable life. One thing that being in the military has taught me is that none of that matters. Just live your life and be happy, stop worrying about everything.
His must of had holes. I have been inside my bag witht he Gortex cover in a downpout on the AT and was complely dry. I rigged a small tarp that covered my face and upper torso.
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cbarsonfire 1 month ago
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cbarsonfire 1 month ago
When i joined the army cadets last year, i needed to buy equipment, so i did, and i bought a snugpack sleeper zero camo sleeping bag for £40, It looked really comfortable so i decided to test it one night by creeping out of my room and sleeping in my garden with it in my army tent, i slept all the way through the night without feeling one bit cold it was boiling in my sleeping bag, one of the best nights ive ever had! :D so i decided to camp out there for the week and my mom thought i was wierd
WHIZZYWUZZA 1 month ago 2
@WHIZZYWUZZA But my excuse was, THE SLEEPING BAG its genius!
WHIZZYWUZZA 1 month ago
@WHIZZYWUZZA Haha! That's awesome.
Hellsconsort 1 month ago
The system works great. I am actually a NCO in the US Army and have spent many nights in the dirt and/or mud in this system. It is top notch and is in fact water proof. It is important to use it in the proper configuration and also make sure that it is sealed and treated properly. For Extreme Cold Weather the black bag would be the most inner layer followed by the green liner and then the Bivy. It is important not to dry the bivy in a dryer as it losses it's water proofing in extreme heat.
usbrotherhood11b 2 months ago
@usbrotherhood11b Great info! These do work great, don't they. I've never slept in a better bivy. This could also be attributed to the fact that in the Army, whenever we're sleeping in the field, it's been a long ass day and you could probably sleep anywhere and in anything. haha
Strelnikov10 2 months ago
i love you
13mymyx 3 months ago
These bivy bags look great. An alternative for those who want to go fast and light/er though... I have a Mountain Hardwear Ultralamina 45 sleeping bag. These are unbelievably compact and light for the warmth they provide, brilliantly designed. You could use one of these and have the warmer model as well, that Army bivy bag and you'd have an awesome customised lightweight version of the military modular sleep system.
gregvance 3 months ago
i had one of these at a boyscout camp and waas sleeping in a crappy tent when it happened to rain all night. I woke up in the morning laying in a puddle almost completely dry while my friends were completely soaked, overall a great system but it has the price to go with it.
nyjoe92 6 months ago
nice vc
TheAfifi09 9 months ago
Probably the best system you can get for your money. I've used mine all over the world.
chitown1966 9 months ago
The best system Ive used and ever needed to use. No need to use anything else. However after a few hours in -20F I began to get a chill here n there.
dodoinurpants 11 months ago
umm the black one is the liner the green one goes on the outside of the black one. you use the green for summer the black for fall and combine for winter. use with polypros to get to -50*F. i own this set and was issued it in army.
FixedByDoc 11 months ago
@FixedByDoc
At -50F, the person inside that system would be a popsicle.
I wouldn't go below 0 F.
solobackpacking 11 months ago
@solobackpacking they are used at very low temps all the time. i personaly have been down to -15*F with them. and know of others who have been colder. my trip to weekends ago it got to -17*F and my buddy used that system just fine. have you actually tried it or just going by looks because they do work quite well and the water resistance of the bag are amazing by themselves without the bivy but with it near waterproof when treat properly. you should give it a try before totally giving up on them
FixedByDoc 11 months ago
@solobackpacking I slept in mine at -20 F under a poncho hooch.
im2fatactual 10 months ago 3
your hot
clyde6978 11 months ago
Army issue sleeping bags have almost no loft.
solobackpacking 11 months ago
@solobackpacking i own them and they get down to below zero quite nicely. ive used them for years in and out of the army.
FixedByDoc 11 months ago
@FixedByDoc
I was referencing them in comparison to commercial bags like Montbell, Mountain Hardwear.
solobackpacking 11 months ago
@solobackpacking ok well compared no not much loft but not much is needed with the army ones.
FixedByDoc 11 months ago
@FixedByDoc
They are tough.
The army system was meant to be economical and durable, not warm or comfort. After all the people who makes the budget are not the ones that have to use these things. Way too bulky and heavy to be used in a sensible backpacking trip. However, reasonable for mobile deployment.
solobackpacking 11 months ago
@solobackpacking i have to disagree there because i think they are the most comfortable ive ever used and when used correctly they are very warm and the set combined goes to -50*F when you wear the army polypro's with it. the black bag is bulky but the green one is very compactable. the bivy is very packable as well. i have used many name brand bags like mountainhardware, northface, granitegear, kelty, eureka, etc... and still prefer the army ones...
FixedByDoc 11 months ago
Love this system! the newer ACU for me seems to be a better Bivy back set up. i agree with actionbath above. It will keep you warm in weather you thought you would be cold in down to -20. I have had it down to -10 and was quite warm in the rockies. The only down side I see with it is it is small for me(side sleeeper) and moisture can get in. It goes with me when ever I may be below freezing though. Mix and match the bags depending on temp.
GUNSnARMYRN 1 year ago
hahaha whens dinner?
justyoustupid 1 year ago
heavy, bulky, not very warm.
dinnerandashow 1 year ago
The US Army "fartsacks" (the green and black bags) are trash, but the bivy is unbeatable. Even other civilian Goretex bivies are nothing more than plastic bags that hold in condensation and don't breathe at all. And it's super durable too.
If you're in the US military, put away those black and green rucksack fillers, and buy a 600 or 800 fill down bag. Combine it with this bivy and you can sleep anywhere with half the weight and size.
jmk1a1 1 year ago
@jmk1a1 until your fill gets wet and you cant get it dry...
FixedByDoc 11 months ago
I own 2 of these bags. Paid 150 for one, and 200 for the 2nd. Camped last Wed, and temps down to 29F, winds out of the NW at 12mph. NO TENT, and NO CAMPFIRE. I did sleep in a hammock with polar fleece long underwear on, and was toasty warm all night. Something else that works great with these bags is to throw some warmers in them prior to unrolling, and then toss them down to the feet for the night, and you should be good to well below zero, and yes an empty bottle for when nature calls.
surviveTHEtimes 1 year ago
my army bivy ;) here is a tip :
i use a military rectangular cot bugnet i hang up with 2 ropes and 2 1meter branches.
Put it low so my bivy sistemstands over the bugnet so i can sit prepare relax play guitar eat ...... Set a tarp over it and i call that a swag .
alexgoyettemobile 1 year ago
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my army bivy ;) here is a tip :
i use a military rectangular cot bugnet i hang up with 2 ropes and 2 1meter branches.
Put it low so my bivy sistemstands over the bugnet so i can sit prepare relax play guitar eat ...... Set a tarp over it and i call that a swag .
alexgoyettemobile 1 year ago
my army bivy ;) here is a tip :
i use a military rectangular cot bugnet i hang up with 2 ropes and 2 1meter branches.
Put it low so my bivy sistemstands over the bugnet so i can sit prepare relax play guitar eat ...... Set a tarp over it and i call that a swag .
alexgoyettemobile 1 year ago
I have a question. I notice that a lot of military surplus from Germany is either made of Goretex or uses it in it construction. Was Goretex invented in Germany or something? If not, what country did it come from?
Vyppaaa11 1 year ago
@Vyppaaa11 google " WL GORE " made in the USA
YuddaLevy 1 year ago
I've used this system a lot. It will keep you warm in Bosnian winters, or in high desert winters. Use the compression bags, and they will compress to a surprisingly small volume for a sleeping bag.
lumb597 1 year ago
I've used this system in all four seasons when I was in the Marine Corps and it works great! My sack never leaked... by far my favorite system. The black stuff sack isn't waterproof, however the gortex bivy is, I always used the bivy on the outside and did a stuff/roll combo to save space. If you're concerned about weight, however, this isn't for you; stick to just the gortex bivy, poncho liner and and Isomat. I now own this full system and will be using it yet again in a couple days...
Pilotusmc2 1 year ago
@Pilotusmc2 Also, if you're going on a minimalist trip and/or you enjoy hammock camping, this system works great with any hammock as well. And for warm nights and for those of you not worried about venomous snakes cuddling with you, you can make a tube tent type structure with fallen branches and 550 cord. Unzip the bivy all the way, and turn it sideways. curl the sides under, lay down your poncho then isomat. Spray some garlic snake repellent at the front opening if you like... haha!
Pilotusmc2 1 year ago
This sack is great. Haven't used a tent in years. Already have 22 days in this system this year. Snow, sleet, rain, thunderstorms stays dry.
Only bad thing about bivving is that in heavy snow storms you risk being buried alive.
Always have a tarp or set up where there is a wind break or you will become buried.
Other than that if you wear fleece pants and fleece top the 3 part system will keep you warm down to -40F easy.
actonbath 1 year ago
@actonbath just use a hammock and stay up off the ground and wear a bug net around your face if the bugs are annoying
ninjadude126 1 year ago
@actonbath Someone who does it the way I do! And I agree with ninjadude126. I combine certain bivys with a hammock (Air conducts heat less quickly), and if its quite cold (30 or less) maybe a thin, short mat for my midsection, since the material is compressed by your weight. A small tarp hung low will do the rest. This all cuts out on several pounds of weight and half a backpack of space.
CiaranLuke 1 year ago
Selica , I looked on the link you provide and I cant find the dimensions there. How long is it? How wide is it?
Christopher711 1 year ago
I've seen them go for 25.00 on Ebay
urbanwarfare2012 2 years ago
I am going to get one soon.
LewisMattTramping 2 years ago
I wouldn't go outdoors without it!The best piece of equipment I own and the warmest.Its a little on the heavy side,but I don't mind.
ang642 2 years ago
PeakSurvival your serious!!!! I am comming to your house if there is a housing collapse!!! LOL
kryogenikz 2 years ago
@kryogenikz
Well that's a nice thing to say.
agun17 1 year ago
I've used one of these for the past ten years or so, and they work very well. The bivvy bag has saved me a soaking on several occasions, including sleeping in it during a light rain storm. I have two sets, my currently issued one, and the one I bought. Good piece of kit.
achborkah 2 years ago
Looks like a really interesting space you are working in.
TheDogDew 2 years ago
I LOVE mine ! I have had it for a few years now and have used it alot. Like you said, you have 3 bags that you can use independently or all together to make a great winter bag. I currently have the Bivy and the green patrol bag together in my pack. I purchased mine off ebay for $120.
charper3006 2 years ago
Is it bear proof?
netfisherman 2 years ago
I've thought about getting one of those. I would like to see more reviews on it if possible.
jonvssocrates 2 years ago
thanks for the update! Keep up the good work!
tylerayiverson 2 years ago
Been trying to find out: are the seams, stitching around zip, snaps etc waterproof taped seams.
MINDWISEMAN 2 years ago
I was told by my Army Ranger next door that this unit isn't waster proof. I would take it to the backyard, climb inside and have someone take a hose to it and let us know the outcome (please).
TheBgcheez 2 years ago 10
@TheBgcheez it is water proof
manhip 1 year ago
@TheBgcheez it is water proof to a point, I used the system when I was in the Army and I just got a "new" system at a surplus store my only complaint is how bulky it is when you have all three parts in the stuff sack.
CharlesG1982 1 year ago
@TheBgcheez the us one has zippers that hinder its waterproofness. But i have been in my swimming pool with my canadian issue and stayed dry!
TheGuyWithAWeirdName 1 year ago
@TheGuyWithAWeirdName - can you send me a link where I can maybe buy one of these? I would truly appreciate it!!
TheBgcheez 1 year ago
@TheBgcheez cant post a link in the comments but there are many canadian online surplus store that sell it... didnt find any in the usa but it doesnt make a big difference in price
TheGuyWithAWeirdName 1 year ago
@TheBgcheez You can go to Ebay and buy them. Just put in Modular Sleeping bag and this will come up. I bought mine online and after 6 years, it is still in awesome condition!
DrRobert909 1 month ago
@TheBgcheez no it isnt water proof it is only water resistant. while in army as a medic we were taught to use the poncho as a tarp over this setup. listen to your friend he sounds smarter.
FixedByDoc 11 months ago
@TheBgcheez i used it during a snow storm. snow would accumulate and melt. there was water on the inside of the gortex layer like water was condensing or seeping through. not enough to drip though like some tents.
biohax 7 months ago
@TheBgcheez They aren't 100% waterproof. I slept through a severe thunderstorm in one last summer, woke up in a puddle. I was mildly moist, but def not wet. Since then I've treated it with silicone spray and have yet to get one drop of moisture inside.
HillBillyForLiberty 4 months ago
@TheBgcheez Trust me... these are waterproof. I've spent many a pouring rainy night in fort benning in one of these. Even slept through a tornado..... They are great! Great Video!
Strelnikov10 3 months ago
@Strelnikov10 Thank you for your service, soldier. Please accept my apologies that we have allowed your country to be corrupted by the Marxist filth to the degree that we have.
Wikipunani 3 months ago
@Wikipunani I appreciate you comment and your concern, but please keep politics away from my service. This video has nothing to do with politics. It's a gear video, let's keep it about the gear.
Strelnikov10 3 months ago
@Strelnikov10 I appreciate your enthusiasm regarding the gear--I share it!
But, as the enemies of freedom are wont to vomit, "Everything is political." So yeap, there's that rather bummer news there.
Huggles regardless of whether you censor me or not ^.^
Wikipunani 2 months ago
@Wikipunani I ain't censoring shit. Just letting you know that I don't want my service to my brothers to be dragged into politics. If you truly believe that everything is political, even a survival gear review, then you are going to have a long, miserable life. One thing that being in the military has taught me is that none of that matters. Just live your life and be happy, stop worrying about everything.
Strelnikov10 2 months ago
@Strelnikov10 Wow! I've never received a quicker response from anyone in my life O.O'
Okay, I will refrain from mentioning current reality in any and all responses to all videos I comment on. You win, baby! *nyancat huggles*
Wikipunani 2 months ago
@TheBgcheez
His must of had holes. I have been inside my bag witht he Gortex cover in a downpout on the AT and was complely dry. I rigged a small tarp that covered my face and upper torso.
cbarsonfire 1 month ago
I have this one too from e-bay for $90.
Washes up great in a regular washing machine and drys overnight on a rack.
whem not using it store the bags over the back off a door to allow airflow.
megasimon999 2 years ago
that is a gooood deal!
paperas24 2 years ago
Thank you!
mallardhead 2 years ago