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  • LOL the guy in this video is a sick piece of shit! He talks like it doesn't matter what a woman wants or if she agrees to sex or not, she must still obey like an obedient DOG! To answer your question Mr. Towel Head, YES it is considered RAPE if you force yourself on a woman against her will! Yes a woman has a right to not want to have sex with someone. It's called treating women like human fucking BEINGS and not ANIMALS or pets of an owner! Stupid primitive sick fucking savages!

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  • @lucy9359 LOL, yeah and the christian bible also says that if a woman is raped she must marry her aggressor. What a "punishment" for that rapist huh? Rape a woman. gain a wife forever! The bible is full of patriarchy just as many other religions are as well.

  • @firemetal2007 lets consider era mon ami...woman had no means of self support other than prostitution, they were suppored by men, periodI am not sure whether this is worse or the cave man theory? I kind of find both accounts of ancient manhood creepy and frankly muslim men seem to me to be a admixture of both predopreditator types :( I think I like the modern western version of man better!

  • the same cleric made a fetwa against mickey mouse !!!!! :D

  • THIS MAN IS A SLUT AND HE DESERVES INSTANT DEATH !

    SEXY LADIES ARE THE MASTERS !

    MUSLIMS GO FUCK CHRISTIANS YOU ATHEIST CUNT MALES !

  • AMEN!! BROTHER!! LOL these fucking towelheads have right! Man lol

  • heard it also works the other way around the man must also submit?

  • @CaligirlSofia in christianity it is both the male and the female that are exspected to fulfill the marriage duty, as the bible puts it...

  • That's a great saying! If she doesn't want to with no reason then the man will try to please himself elsewhere..just think about in the west 9/10 will cheat. That's wisdom for you

  • shame on you baby

  • Islam is ridiculous

  • @alucardts ...

    actually this is NOT islam.. this is Hadihterim

  • @QuranVsHadith

    Hadiths are also part of the islamic teachings. You can join islamic discussion groups and forums to see for yourself how muslims quote from the hadiths and the koran whenever they make a point to preach their bloody islam.

  • @alucardts .. so you are going to oppose anyone and everything that opposes this garbage.. even if that person is trying to show that these HADIHTERS have HIJACKED ISLAM and have turned it into their psychopathic religion of hate?

    We are the the MUSLIMS... who are out there opposing these MORONS with the ONLY weapon that works against them.. so Support us.. instead of attacking us..

    Peace

  • @QuranVsHadith

    I'm opposed to this garbage found in YOUR OWN SOURCES. I'm not the one supporting this. Leave the dirty job for your own muslim 'brothers' and I'll be pleased to expose you.

  • @alucardts .. NOT a single one of ISLAMIC sources say this GARBAGE... yes all the HADIHER SOURCES do..

    maybe you need to do a bit of research.. its better to know the facts then to just hate..

  • @QuranVsHadith

    It's garbage, both the koran and your hadiths because they reflect a lifestyle of ancient Arabs and this is not compatible with the civilized world in the present time.You're simply in denial of your own teachings. Do as I requested. Join Islamic channels and forums. Anyone will see such things are pretty commonplace among muslims.

  • @alucardts well my friend Islam is not ridiculous but the muslims around the globe are ridiculous coz they don't follow the true rules of islam and try to emend it.

    Peace for all

  • they think that god created woman just to Please men fuck them 

  • plz tell me that that part of humanity isnt that stupid n believe in bullshit like that :(

  • infidels love to see muzzies screaming as hyenas because they are tormented and tortured in mind and soul by crazy verses from a mad man muhammad the fuck dog-pig.muzzies hate infidels because muzzies hate themselves as being forced to follow a sickening cult called islam that makes them fools.muzzies are jealous that infidels are free and happy.all muzzies are abnormal, angry and insane as koran has shackle their souls to the evil that muhammad created.islam is a hoax. koran is a lie.mo a shit.

  • incest and in-bred breeding is a norm in muzzie culture.that further makes their brains of lower IQ. koran commands them not to think nor ask any question of any illogical nonsensical verse. otherwise, muzzies who do will not receive a paradis of muhammad's torn whores' cunts and other muzzies whore sisters afatre this meaningless life on earth.muzzies live in the future.muzzies forget where their anus rest now & but look forward to reside in the future as maggots in pig sewage like muhammad:)

  • muzzies are born of a deficient mind and made worse as the koran is kept beaten on your heads from toddler times.as adults they become braindead and void of rationalizing right from wrong.muzzies should beat, stone and behead muhammad and his 65 whores for all the adultery, amputations, brutalities, cruelties, deaths, deceit, hatred against infidels, lies, killings,thefts,rapes and violence that muhammad did in its lifetime.koran tells it all.equality must exist, muzzies as koran preaches:)

  • poor misguided deluded people.

  • RAPE.. RAPE.. RAPE.. BOYS!! WOMEN!! GIRLS!! anyone.. that the way these HADITHERS can get any!!

    LOOK AT HOW UGLY this HADIHTER IS... UNTIL and UNLESS he RAPES what woman will let him close!

  • @QuranVsHadith

    Quite ugly.

    watch?v=PpweeeFlVs4

  • Muslim are real sex maniac!!!

    Their heaven is a non stop orgies!!!

    It's graphic!!!

  • Of course the hadith would be there. Moe just wanted it soo often.

    Explains the many wives and the Ayesha.

    Thankfully I left this religion, no need to "submit" to a guy.

    Any Muslim guy who actually follows this needs to go and f himself.

    I'm so tired of them and their hypocritical and controlling ways.

    God dam it!

  • You son of a woman from Wanker!

    And Islamic Fascist bastards claims that your women are liberated!

    How cute!

  • transltion false

  • WOW and people say islam is not sexist, when it is all about a males desires

  • Going to a cleric for sexual advice is like going to car mechanic for financial advice. Religion sucks.

  • is buttsex halal?

  • If a woman is forced to have sex agaist her will, it is rape no matter what culture or religion she is in. The Bible tells couples not to keep themselves from one another, except for mutual consent.

  • Soooo...rape is a good thing?

    Look at it this way:

    it's the culture, not the religion itself

  • OMG!!! Sexually assaulting your own wife is rape in the west???

    What kind of sick bastards are these Westerners! I bet their prophets didn't have sex with 9 year olds either!

  • NOOOOOTTT ACCORDING TO ISLAM. This is according to stupid saudi sunnism.

  • People who watch this video and believe what the old guy is saying are dumb freaks.

  • @sallywilton

    I got only one question for you " What is the purpose of your life ?? "

  • @sangafani there is no particular 'purpose' to life. The world has existed for billions of years before man was ever thought of so that in itself proves we are just lucky to be alive at this particular micromoment in time. make the most of it and stop dwelling on there being some particular reason for your life. It will be over in a blink.

  • @sallywilton so you live to die without any purpose or aim , and i probably think that you may reclaim monkeys as your ancestors XD , i guess you'll find hell adventurous enough .

    " you have known the right to do but you chose to fight it so live you life as you like live it to the fullest but don't die cuz the moment you do you will hope that you have done it right "

    I hope you find your salvation :D

  • @sangafani Of course we are apes and decended from a common ancestor to monkeys and if you go far back enough to every single living thing on the planet. Did you not go to school?

    Salvation?  Dont be silly. We are here now and one day we will not be here. End of story.

  • @sallywilton HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA ROFL you are so funny XD , if any one descend from an ape it is you not me :) , the whole Darwin theory is fucked up he said that a frog is the reason of all creature so where did the frog came from plus if we evolute from an ape as you say why didn't the chimps evolute and became humans and we evolute to a more smart creatures

    this theory can only be applied on some of the animals

    and all humans descended from Adam and Eve

  • @sangafani You are just an uneducated idiot.

  • @sallywilton i have seen this sentence from the people who were OWNED , so that's the sign of your own defeat :D " sally the ape descendant "

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  • @sallywilton A question for you Mrs. Educated. How come that we are apes and decended from a common ancestor , Just a question for only who can understand and who is smart ... probably which is not you , anyhow How come backbone of the Apes turned up a 180 degree while and became like us ... i'll explain in this photo ... mediafire.(dot com)/?lj33f4n0za0qc

    After you see this photo you will know that you are just a follower ... not us ..

  • @sangafani The 'aim' if you want to call it that is the survival of our genes through reproduction. The instinct to produce offspring or seeds is the greatest after that of initial survival. If it fails or an animal/plant does not reach reproductive age then reproduction will fail and the duplication of that gene will not happen. This is a sort of survival of the fittest which is the reason behind evolutional development of every species including man.

  • @sallywilton !! so human has been reproducing for million years and what is happening that we are getting more sensitive towards the environment and we are getting weaker and weaker we didn't evolute to a better being , " the law of bio-genesis states, life can only arise from life " , How did mere chance produce us, when even human planning and engineering cannot? In fact, no laboratory has come close to replicating even a single human hair!

  • @sangafani So then, why is'nt your 'god' intervening?

    What as stupid person you must be. Where is your god? Of course you cannot replicate living things. Don't be so dumb and stop worshipping invisible things you twit.

  • @sallywilton There is no Creature without a creator , God made traditions that shall not change otherwise the universe could have been messed up , also God is not governed by this traditions .

    "Say, 'He is Allah, the One;

    Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;

    He begets not, and neither is He begotten;

    And there is nothing that can be compared to Him."

    :D Where is my God is a very easy question baby ;)

    but , where is your mind , electricity and energy ??!! we don't see them but we see the effects

  • هذا الشيخ الله يهديه يتطرق للغرب كثيرا و هو لا يجيد طرح المواضيع المتعلقة بالغرب من النواحي

    الدينية و السياسية و الفلسفية مجتمعة في اسلوب واحد

    فالغرب لا يؤمن بهذا الإسلوب ولم يفهم مثلا مقولته الشهيرة التي قال فيها لو ان مكي ماوس فأرا عندنا

    لقتلناه !

    بالرغم من ان كلامه كان واضحا لنا و لكن الغرب أقام الدنيا و اقعدها وترجم كلامه على انه هدرا لدم مكي ماوس

    الشخصية الكرتوينة! وهذا مضحك جدا

    ولكن الشيخ بإسلوبه هداه الله لم يفكر بما قال من النواحي المذكورة

    يا شيخ ليتك تتخذ صديقا يعي اسلوب الغرب!

  • @extremelypolite ههههههه الخبز راح يحترق,,, وبعدين يسألها وين الاكل

    ويسويلها مشكله

  • @missnbgDeutschland

    I wish that everyone would try to have my above comment in Arabic translated to see

    what we're missing here!

    misconception is so common when the West try to literally translate this Sheikh's lectures!

    He is not as bad as he sounds! On the contrary, he is very good, but he needs some to explain to him how the West view things and how the West get his speeches translated!!

  • you tube is not allowing more than 500 character so

    Sally winton

    @sallywilton All i want to say to the likes of you , #1 have a brain to think with , #2 get a true life and about what you are saying consider more 1 - Men can't marry kids by any way until they are mature enough

    (BTW the churches are famous of raping women and children and in Germany a man married his cat and a woman married her dog !! )

  • @sangafani The biggest problem in the world today is too many children being born. You arabs think of nothing more than having loads of kids even if you cant afford them. How stupid is that? Get real, live a normal life and stop talking rubbish about people marrying cats and dogs - even if they did what harm is it doing to you?

  • @sallywilton Hahaha you are speaking about Harm to him hahaha just you are saying you don't have a mind XD ... what would it harm if they had loads of kids ?

    (ALTHOUGH THAT IS NOT HAPPENING!!! Nowadays)

    Allah created minds to think with it .. you have mind just to criticize/criticise ONLY Muslims and Arabs.

    Get a life Sally Mind is really helpful for other things =D like making food to feed your body.

  • @sallywilton Aw and you forgot about what happens in America you guys like someone have sex with him then you get babies xD then you live in a misrable life aw and keep crying xD coz he was a jerk and he left you and kept having sex with about two thousand five hundred sixty five women before you :D. that what Islam protect us from. =) simply you don't have a life =D we do and you wish to be like us but you can't cause of your arrogance.

  • @kiaritakarin What does Islam protect women from exactly? The man can divorce the woman for no reason and she is then on her own, maybe with nothing. It is shown in UK that the women that get married legally have way more protection and rights than any woman that marries in a mosque. The Muslim men always cheat the women by not registering in a proper civil office so they have no rights after divorce.

  • @sallywilton Hahaha all what you said is wrong. just ALL OF IT! XD lol your knowledge is just right from some of the fake yellow papers and what they wants you to believe XD. that's pathetic. 1st of all don't say fools 2nd boy friend n girl friend are permitted Only sex before marriage is not ... ok i'll explain to you again the idea. =)

    Now your body is something too precious it's is yours after all Islam made it something too private for herself have something to give when she marry ...

  • @kiaritakarin If a woman's body is so precious in your country why is it that 95% of theme have had genital mutilation? Is that so that she will never know whether or not you are rubbish at sex?

  • @sallywilton And WOW THAT DOES NOT EXIST AT ALL And if that is real 95% of my country men will marry from outside the country!!!!

  • @kiaritakarin Are you from Egypt or not? If so then it is very well known that it has a very high rate of genital mutilation of women of 15 years and older. Do you know what that means?

  • @sallywilton Lol ok you said you will come to Egypt right ? when you do ask weather we do have that in Egypt or no. haha xD

    Coz i know what i'm saying no such things XD and i know what it means XD

  • @kiaritakarin Yes I am in Egypt right now and what do I see everywhere? People so poor they are begging for some small money, even women with babies begging. People with no shoes. People who earn only 500 Egyptian pounds a month with 5 or 6 children to support. Keep praying habibi - maybe allah will send you some money.

  • @sallywilton N what you said was through the news you are not in Egypt ...

  • @kiaritakarin I am in Egypt. I am living here so dont talk rubbish. If you think this is a great and rich country it is you who is not here.

  • @sallywilton Lol only that what you answered ... ok My mistake you live in Egypt (Actually i don't care just wanted to prove to yourself that you lies not for me) And sure you would never know anything as i do about my own country just to let you know ... and yes Egypt is rich country but there is a lot of thieves my country men steal it not something good if everyone took only his REAL money we will feed you guys. And i tell you that you see with your eyes that's why you are easy to be fooled.

  • @kiaritakarin Yes well sure that Egypt is rich - in sand and rubble.

    It is poor habibi. See the rest of the world and compare.

  • @sallywilton Well what you said is probably a part from the movie Transformers 2 haha. In that place that you mentioned that you are going is full with people and no sand except in the places of the monuments ......

    What do you know about Jihad n what do you know about Illuminati ?

  • @sallywilton Those women who pretend to be poor , they are not haha you won't believe they are richer than what you think really some of them are richer than you. But they know that you guys are easy to be fooled so they fool you. See it's simple.

  • @sallywilton Also you really didn't answer my questions =(

    What do you know about Jihad n what do you know about Illuminati ?

  • @kiaritakarin In 2005, research by Unicef found that 96% of Egyptian women aged 15 to 49 who had ever been married reported they had been circumcised. The Egyptian government says a more recent study found 50.3% of girls aged 10 to 18 had been circumcised.

  • @sallywilton haha xD i don't care what they say about us but LADYYYY!! i'm Egyptian haha and no such a thing XD also such a research would never be found coz here in egypt that would never happen the people of this land won't let anyone touch an female here xD ... you live in a fake country XD you know illuminati own your mind you think with there mind not your mind ...

    look look go to this site and tell me if you need explanations

    illuminati -> we reverse

    itanimulli dot) us

    itanimulli (dot com

  • @kiaritakarin The illuminati is a made up conspiracy theory. The study I have told you about it real not made up. You just don't want to accept the truth.

  • @sallywilton + You don't want to accept the truth you keep bulling arround having no clues choosing one type of people and say aw those are arabs .. those are Muslims .. you don't look overall you can't see that and you would never .. just you block everything you can never understand anything about Islam your mind have been deceived by stupid people who hate Islam because it's right n they know they are false ... while you simply believed them coz you don't have a reason not to believe them ...

  • @kiaritakarin F*** the haters.

  • @sallywilton Please what do you know about Jihad ?

  • @sallywilton I mean look now after about 5 or 6 guys which are your boyfriend and ex-boyfriend what else you got to give ? nuthing again you seek some other boyfriend or another husband or whatever your life guys is not stable while ours is stable look @ this difference Muslim girl have privacy .. you don't everyone can look at you everyone can touch you everyone can sex you it's like you can be easily called bad name which i hate to say it. And there is something you don't know called ...

  • @sallywilton Engagement probably you don't know what is this ... it is the time with the man asks her father to marry her if he accepted and her daughter did ... she becomes like his gf but still no sex they know each other in that period it doesn't matter how long the period is so that's the difference between u and us .. we are organized civilized you guys don't have rulz better to put rules in your life it will help you achieve your goals faster =D

  • @sallywilton OH i almost forgot, there is a critical thinker who is an atheist like you..Anti Islam read for him he attacks islam and told the leaders to beware of Islam because it is organized .. and his name is T.S.Eliot i hope you EDUCATE yourself very well because you simply Know nothing about REAL Islam while you guys are not organized what you wants to do you just do your eyes have limits your ears have limits you have limits why you don't want for your desires to have limits ?

  • @kiaritakarin It doesn't seem organised at all. You cannot even agree between yourselves what it the real islam then tell other people who are not in the least bit interested that they should be educated in the 'real islam' What for? It is the most boring thing going on. It is so boring that members have to blow them selves up to find something interesting to do.

  • @sallywilton Lol about the blowing up things Muslims are not allowed to do that. Allah said in Quran who ever kill someone for no reason as if he killed the whole humans on earth and if he made someone happy as if he made the whole people happy. those who kill people blow themselves up are not Muslims. that what Illuminati wants you to think and see. Islam is made to make the whole earth a better place.

  • @sallywilton Let me tell you again you don't attack the Islam and other Muslims while you know nothing about it. You see with your eyes that's why you are easy to fool. Don't follow like the donkey. SEARCH for real! Ask those who said Islam is Good why Islam is Good and ask those who said Islam is bad why Islam is bad. Before you do that you don't have the right to speak! Respect what you don't know.

  • @sallywilton That what the logic says Aw and since you know nothing about Islam don't insult it. Be Respectful. Respect what you don't know go ask the people who said Islam is Good why you said Islam is Good. but before that ask those who said Islam is Bad why Islam is bad ? That's how you seek the truth you don't listen to only one side that is what a Human with mind do... just i ask you not to follow as the donkey they say to it, go, it go ..come, it comes ..sit, it sits ..run, it runs ..

  • @kiaritakarin I do not respect religion, I do not respect Islam, I do not ever respect 'what I don't know' but I do know rather a lot about Islam and many of the evil things carried out in it's name.

    You do not have a right to demand respect for a religion that actively encourages Jihad against non muslims.  You know nothing about me or my life or my studies. You are the ignorant one.

  • @sallywilton Lol now i'm the Ignorant. Ok what do you know about Jihad ?

  • @kiaritakarin No faith has a right to demand respect. It is just an idea that should be challenged the same as any political ideology. People like you that demand all this respect for something no one has seen or heard of are in fact dictators.

  • @kiaritakarin Why the big obsession with who is having sex with who before you met your boyfriend? it all adds up to experience and those people make much better lovers than the fools who know nothing before marriage.

  • @kiaritakarin If you guys are so perfect and happily married, or waiting for Miss Right to come along or be 'introduced' by your uncle then why is it that every time I go anywhere here I am hassled non stop by Arab men who want to be my 'boyfriend'? I would like to know why you all cannot control yourselves when you see an English woman. Is it just to get money, sex or a visa? If so is that allowed in the Koran?

  • @sallywilton And we don't do that .. -_- who told you that ? lol you are seriously don't know what your are speaking about n i really hate to speak with narrow minds =( .. i spoke with you a lot n i didn't find any use from you to understand anything nor wants to listen nor giving yourself a chance to do your mind is blocking every simple info that can open your mind ... and that's because you think i'm attacking you in the conversation or maybe you think you are over 10000% right ...

  • @sallywilton I'm going to add my two cents here. The grass always seems greener on the other side to some people. I can speak from personal experience. The lure of another culture, completely different to one's own, to some people is attractive.

  • @angemala Yes that is true. I love other cultures and have dated many people who are not english out of fascination for the exotic.

  • @kiaritakarin If I have ever seen women with no life, it has to be here. No money, kids with no shoes, no jobs, nothing. Is that a great life in egypt? Is that what you think we might all be so jealous of or are you just kidding yourself?

  • @sallywilton Actually if you study more instead of bluffing you'll find that a lot of European countries are going to end because they don't fulfill the appropriate growing rate , and what do you mean what harm because of your abnormal sexual activity you curse us with unknown diseases check on Wikipedia " Zoophilia and health " and please stop talking about things you don't know because if you are a christian i can ruin you world with your own bible

  • @sangafani So why there are more and more Arabs immigrating in Europe if the place is so horrible?

  • @dinoalberini !! i didn't mention that Europe is a bad place despite containing lots of gays and whores , but the reason Arabs go there is the same reason Mexicans go to USA " Money "

  • @sangafani So money is more important than religion? No argument about that, it's just that I don't like that Arabs want my wife to respect their customs when in their country, but their wives need not to respect our customs when in Europe. So if my wife needs to wear a Hijab (or whatever) in Saudi Arabia, their wives should dress according to our European customs. Respect goes both ways.

  • @dinoalberini Actually you got the wrong idea money is not more important than religion but working and satisfy your house needs is as important as praying , and about the customs Muslim women are exclusive for their husbands they are not to show any of their body parts to any man to avoid problems from sick hearted people , don't you feel jealous when a man look at your wife's body parts ??

  • @sangafani Only scared and insecure men are jealous. Others are proud to have wives admired by both men and women and faithful only to them. If they are able to make a woman faithful only by force, they don't deserve a faithful woman.

  • @dinoalberini If you find it a good thing to make your woman exposed to other men then i think you are a pimp even animals don't like that except the pig , plus our women wear hijab by their own will we don't force them to wear it , as they know the concept of " the covered candy is much better than the exposed to flies "

  • @sangafani In the west, we deal with flies and we are not owners of our women. We must be doing a good job because everybody comes to us. I've never heard of a European that wants to emigrate to Saudi Arabia.

  • @dinoalberini If you really deal with flies all of your men would have been dead by now , and we don't own our women they are faithful to us , and yes you are doing a very good job in making up wars to steal our petrol and Europeans wish to go to the Arabian gulf generally to get easy money

  • @sangafani We don't steal oil, we buy it from you. Our women take part in every aspect of our lives as engineers, scientists, doctors and we have no problem going to a doctor of the opposite sex. This results better life expectancy, education, health care, we live longer, our babies are healthier. You object to our way of life, yet have no problem using computers and the internet that is the direct product of our free thinking.

  • @dinoalberini I have met millions of you who are mind covered cuz of their media , War on Iraq to establish petrol companies , plus our women also take part in every aspects of our lives but they are more preserving to their honor , and WHO THE HELL TOLD YOU that we ride camels to work ... we are using most of the technologies just as you we have ipad ipod ps3 xbox LED tvs .... you don't even know how we live

  • @sangafani I know that you use our technology because you are not capable of producing your own. Had you been confined only to your own technology, you would ride camels to work. This is very sad, because in the middle ages the Muslims were on the verge of freedom, science and technology, whereas now you 're just obeying a set of rules established for a nomad tribe in the 6th century.

  • @dinoalberini Poor you you don't even know that most of the principles and basics that your technology stands upon is from our Arabian scientists so what goes around comes back around and nowadays our people invent a lot of new thing but what happens is that the stupid governments ignore them so they sell it to European countries that is why you reclaim that you are good in science also you host good minds of poor countries in order to benefit from them

    P.S

    Stop being racist :)

  • @sangafani I'm not racist. I'm just against religion because it's a fairy tale that makes the world more stupid. Men and women are equal, they are born free and chose whom to merry or not. They are not the propriety of anyone to submit to, whereas, as you know, the title of this video is "women should submit...". This is wrong. That's my point.

    p.s.

    stop being sexist.

  • @dinoalberini Actually i think that your life is a fairy tale cuz our women are free to choose their life partner , you say religion makes the world more stupid you see it like that cuz you have no purpose in life you just live like am animal that will die sooner or later , after i read your words i can assume that you are an ape descendant just like " sallywinton " ,

    P.S.

    there are words in Arabic that if translated it won't have the same meaning like " submitted " this is more like an idiom

  • @sangafani Right, and they are not stoned to death. It's just bad propaganda. I got bad news for you, you are also an "ape descendant" and you're going to die, just like me and everybody else. No God. Sorry.

  • @dinoalberini Firstly they are stoned to death if they are married and had sex with another man , the second thing is that I descend from Adam and Eve i am not an ape descendant cuz darwin's theory is fucked up in so many levels , and yes everyone is going to die

  • @sangafani why is darwin's theory fucked up? have you reviewed the evidence?

  • @nj09w answer these questions and you will find why :

    1 - How just a mere coincidence produced two sexes from almost every species in order to reproduce , and how that they have pleasure doing it ?

    2 - If we " Humans " descended from Apes why there are lots of apes these days shouldn't they be evolved by now !!??

    3 - Humans are on earth for about nearly 1 million year so why didn't we evolve to a higher being ??

    I think these three questions are more than enough

  • @sangafani

    1. NO coincidence! Evolution is not about coincidence. Some species are actually hermaphrodites. Pleasure is a natural drive and instinct to reproduce. There are some good books about this.

    2. We did not evolve from the modern day ape. We SHARE a common ancestor. Scientists have estimated that humans branched off from their common ancestor with chimpanzees about 5–7 million years ago.

    3. Evolution is a slow process. Though we actually have changed a bit the last 10.000 years. 

  • @Szminsky so where does these " hermaphrodites " came from ?? & pleasure is a very complicated process that cannot be made by nature or we wouldn't have been feeling it

    please talk about your self i didn't descend from a chimp , and then comes the 1st question where did that ancestor came from ??

    could you tell me what kind of evolution happened to us ??

  • @sangafani

    We are not descendants from chimps. We share a COMMON ancestor, wether you like it or not, you are related to chimps :) It doesn't matter if you get offended or not, the truth can speak for itself.

    How do you define pleasure then? You think only homo sapiens sapiens experience pleasure? Why do you only talk about "pleasure" as a complicated thing? Think about this... if we wouldn't feel pleasure, we wouldn't reproduce as often, most aniumals feel pleasure, through instinct.

  • @Szminsky No we don't share a common ancestor , darwin stated a theory and every theory has its defects , plus why when we check human numbers at earlier ages they decrease by going back in time unti it reaches Noah's time

  • @Szminsky pleasure is a series of complicated chemical reactions that happens in the body that affects nervous system and this cannot be done by habit

  • @sangafani

    Ok want me to tell you what happened to us? The Himalayas, and it's local inhabitants, their hearts are vastly larger than the ones found in humans in the rest of the world. The reason is that they have lived in an elevated environment for generations. The oxygen levels are vastly smaller the higher the altitude, and their hearts have adapted, so that they can pump more oxygen through their bodies. That is one example of evolution, we adapt to our environments.

  • @Szminsky did they grow another organ or have a change in their shape , you have a problem in differentiating between evolution and adaptation

  • @sangafani

    Clearly you have an extremely narrow conception of what evolution really is. I suggest you educate yourself before entering discussions such as these, your making yourself look ridicoulus, everyone here can see right through you.

    This is just futile. Keep believing in your supernatural deity, that has no single SHREAD of evidence to support it. The truth can stand on its own, wether you like it or not.

  • @Szminsky Actually you are the one who should educate yourself BTW did you even read the evolution theory and its mistakes !! i read both so its like i am arguing with a stupid nine yeas old kid, and if you don't believe in supernaturals could you explain what " soul " is !!

  • @sangafani

    You fail to grasp even the very basics of evolution, you cruise the web for creationist evolution debunktion projects and try to convince me that you're educated on the subject. The "theory" or rather CONCEPT of evolution is a result of a concensus of the world scientific community. The greatest minds of the world , nobel prize winners etc, have not been able to debunk this conecpt. hence why it's being taught in the BEST universities in the world.

  • @sangafani

    I have read books about religion and evolution my WHOLE LIFE. I was raised catholic for your information.

    Charles Darwin and the devolpement of his ideas are under CONSTANT scrutiny, if hard evidence shows up that he was wrong, it will be removed. That is what science is about basically. Being proved wrong is no setback but development. Religion is however based on unfalsifiable CLAIMS, and has no say when it comes to scientific education.

  • @Szminsky please don't even try to compare your religion to mine cuz what you follow is severely deformed from the real one , one of the things that ruins the whole theory are the missing links they just fill its space with fairy species

  • @sangafani

    First of all, I'm atheist, which means I don't follow any religious dogma. I said I was brought up with a religious backround. I've studied ALL major religions of this world and i find all of them, ESPECIALLY the abrahamic ones (including Islam) to be both childish, illogical, and ridicoulus, to the point it's dangerous.

    Second, You don't want a religious explanation, for the "soul", i gave you none. i asked for a context to form you poorly constructed question in.

  • @sangafani

    Sorry, I hold hard evidence, archeological findings, genetics, anthorpology and science as a whole, way more preciously than ANY ancient book. Science is all about theory, that's whats so wonderful about it, it constantly evolves to show a clearer picture of the world we live in. Evolution has not been debunked in any way, otherwise this view would have been abandoned by universities long ago. I welcome any hard evidence you have against it, might get you the nobel price.

  • @Szminsky Evolutionists line up pictures of similar looking species and claim they evolved one to another. Humans are a great example. There are hundreds of species of extinct monkeys and apes. Petrified skulls and bones exist from these creatures. Evolutionists line up the most promising choices to present a gradual progression from monkey to modern man. They simply fill in the big gaps with make-believe creatures to fit the picture.

  • @sangafani

    Another post based on mindless assumptions. You have ZERO understanding on how evolution works... Antrhopogeny is something you have no clue of what so ever. By saying "line up pictures", you're making yourself look like a complete moron. Anthropology and the study of the genus "homo", covers decades of hard evidence. Make-believe creatures is something from your holy book ie. Angels, Jinn, souls, satan, God, snakes and scorpions from hell. Wow, your ignorance is truly astounding.

  • @Szminsky This procedure can be done with humans only because there are many extinct monkey and ape species. They never do this with giraffes and elephants. These pictures are placed in all evolutionists' text books to teach kids this nonsense. The picture is simply a grouping of individual species that does not prove evolution.

  • @sangafani

    wow... again there's simply no end to your shallow posts now is there? Done with humans only... nevermind, I'll let your post speak for itself for everyone here to see.

  • @Szminsky XD so you didn't understand after all it was a completion for the first post , and it is showing why can't you prove evolution of modern day animals

  • @Szminsky as the cell was alive XD ,The theory developed that perhaps lightning struck a pond of water causing several molecules to combine in a random way which by chance resulted in a living cell. The cell then divided and evolved into higher life forms. This view is now proven to be immature to the degree of being ridiculous. The most modern laboratory is unable to create a living cell. In fact, scientists have been unable to create a single left-hand protein molecule as found in all animals

  • @sangafani

    Well that's an interesting thing to grab from the thin air, about lighning, striking a pond of water, sounds just like the thought of your "creator" wishing everything into existense from nothing. I bet you can't even define life. Life is a process, not a pure substance, yet you ask questions about how to "create" it, making the assumption it was "created" in the first place. But alas with your way of thinking I'm not surprised you make such comments.

  • @Szminsky actually that's what the theory states XD " ignorant " , plus and again you babble again 'bout things you don't know, please define " life " as you assume , and the purpose of it " OWNED "

  • @sangafani

    Wow, you're hillarious, you fling words like OWNED, and you can't explain even the basics of a theory, you so zealously try to dispute. Your failings continue to stack up with each and every post. I'm humble in my understanding of life, and I'm ready to accept proof that proves my understanding wrong . Your posts show that you're both arrogant and ignorant, and you show hostility toward anyone who doesnt accept your twisted world view of baseless superstition. Way to go smartass.

  • @Szminsky i still can't see any evidence in your words

  • @sangafani

    Why YOU can't see any evidence in my posts, or evolution overall is not because there is none.. but actually because YOU won't accept it. Evolution process is proven through anthropology, fossils, forensics, studying the human genome/genus homo, carbon dating etc etc. What you have is an ancient book with not a single SHRED of evidence to "creation" what so ever. It's like you're picking sides, you choose to believe it through upbringing, and claim it's true through arrogance.

  • @sangafani

    For your information, scientists have made great progress in creating synthetic "life" in laboratories. They have actually managed to "create" a fully formed cell, it's just lacking a membrane. It is very possible to create or make "life" "form" from scratch. So what will you do then? It seems like you clinge to the belief you were raised with, no matter what evidence disproves it. This is one of the dangers I was talking about, irrational close minded products of religious dogma.

  • @Szminsky XD yet another fail " The inventors call it the world's first synthetic cell, although this initial step is more a re-creation of existing life -- changing one simple type of bacterium into another -- than a built-from-scratch kind. " it seems that you still have that education problem

  • @sangafani

    You're wrong again. I knew you would go there, hence why I brought it up. Your post PROVES how ignorant you are... which is not suprising. You like to talk down on my "education problem" yet you seem to have none what so ever. The experiment is to create the ideal conditions for life to take form in a container, making life evolve from "scratch".

  • @Szminsky again there is no such a thing there is a well known universal law " you can't create anything from nothing " , and believe me you really have no idea who you're arguing with so don't talk about education

  • @sangafani

    Don't know who I'm arguing with? I talk to people like you all the time, aswell as national socialists on the other side of the fence, yet your points are bascially the same. You use circular reasoning, and move golden posts. Perhaps you two didn't evolve from great apes afterwall, perhaps your evolutionary line branched off from the donkey, considering how irrationally stubborn you are.

    I have a bachelors degree in biological Anthropology, what do you have? I guessed so :)

  • @sangafani

    Now, you come with lame and dull insults like "9 year old" this and that (which seems to be grown up in your part of the world). It is clear that you try to avoid the main subject by moving the golden post. Debating with person who was brought up in a madrassa, and who knows basically nothing outside his realm of fairytales, is pointless. You know basically NOTHING about evolution, other than what your religious scholars have told you. Which is evident by your posts here.

  • @Szminsky Man could not evolve from a monkey. Each species is locked into its chromosome count that cannot change. If an animal developed an extra chromosome or lost a chromosome because of some deformity, it could not successfully mate. The defect could not be passed along to the next generation. Evolving a new species is scientifically impossible. Evolutionists prove that getting a college education does not impart wisdom.

  • @sangafani

    Again, if you actually READ my messages you woulnd't make these silly posts. We did not evolve from monkeys. We share a common ancestor with the modern day APE. Evolution is not about deformity in chromosones, try again, i find this really amusing... its like a blind person trying to explain colors, can't wait for your next response :). It is clear to me now where you aquired your knowledge from and that you basically have no real education on this subject what so ever.

  • @Szminsky You repeat your words too much don't you think !! i know you said that you share common ancestor , so let's impose that you are right why the hell didn't we evolve more !!?? and again WTH these modern apes evolve to another race ??!!

    it surely appears that you had lots of trouble with education XD

  • @sangafani

    You say I repeat words, like "share a common ancestor", thats because you fail to understand the meaing of it. as proven in your most recent post. When you say that "I have trouble with education", you're just projecting, since you have none at all :)

    The homo sapiens sapiens, is constantly evolving. Just because you haven't seen a "real" difference in our biology for the last 2000 years doesn't mean it's not happening. Our evolution spans over millions of years.

  • @Szminsky welcome you ancient being that saw the witnessed the entire evolution process and the evidence of your words is ........ why can't i find any evidence

  • @sangafani

    Well, contrary to your study of creation, I don't HAVE to be an ancient being to prove our genetic and evolutionary history, its all there already. There's plenty of scientific evidence, but since you only have a mindset that follows the ways of creationism, science appears to you as hollow, and not worthy of study. This is why you won't listen to me, scientists, or UNESCO. What ever we put forward, you will dismiss, because the IMAM told you so.

  • @sangafani

    Also, if I may challenge you to one thing, it would be this:

    You say i lack evidence. What piece of evidence would make you drop your religious faith in particular? That's right, you can't even begin to dissect your own belief... and challenging it is out of question. And I feel sad for you, you must have some great fear... People like me would be executed in most muslim countries. You believe that an open mind is like a fortress, with its gates open and unguarded.

  • @Szminsky XD that's why you people will always be the same, you think that Islam says : " don't think, Don't Invent, or you will be an infidel " GUYS GET SERIOUS , we have lots of noble winners at many fields , Islam urges us to study in order to improve ourselves and to keep up with other nations .

    You, find what Islam is built on and try to ruin it by true evidence , if you do so i'll be convinced

    but you know what i think is that you think you can think while you can't , reply if understand

  • @sangafani

    Islam is built upon an unfalsifiable CLAIM, read up on it. This sort of thing can't be either proven or disproven by science. I responed to you because you rallied on people who believe differently, justifying your belief by pulling uneducated scientific BS. You say "you people", as if I belong to a certain group of thinkers etc. I'm atleast humble in my views and don't claim to hold an absolute truth. And I respect your BELIEF, even if it's not what this discussion was about.

  • @Szminsky I didn't mean this " unfalsifiable " i meant on how to be a good Muslim ( what to do ). i wasn't railing on them i was trying to rectify their words because most of them didn't know what they're saying . mention that BS you're talking about , i say " You people " because you all talk the same , and about being humble HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA not a bit you talked like you witnessed evolution by all its stages

    I respect anyone's belief untill he attacks or disrespects mine

  • @sangafani

    First of all, you're just taking the piss now. I never said ANYTHING about being an ancient being and witnessing evolution in that sense. Evoultion can be witnessed through science, studying the homo- genus, Homo Sapiens and the subspecies etc. What pisses me off is that you have no education about this what so ever, yet you fling out complete RUBBISH, trying to steer the discussion into the realm of speculations and claims. It is like willfull ignorance, quite fascinating really.

  • @sangafani

    About that unscientific BS you brought up, :

    * You brought up Noah, in an evolutionary debate

    * You think that the foundations of evolution rests on lightning striking a pond, creating life.

    * You think Evolution is about genetic "defects"

    * You say that there's a universal LAW (not laws), which you know nothing about

    * You call fossils make-believe creatures, and pretty much

    * You say science cannot explain "pleasure"

    etc. etc. etc.

    Want me to go on?

  • @Szminsky

    - I brought Noah's name cuz when we go back in time number of humans decrease until we reach his era

    - that is what i read about the origins of life in darwinism

    - you simply won't evolute something not useful see Walt Brown's 3000 generation experiment

    - this law that shows that we all consist of cells , and contain DNA that rectify itself

    - these old fossils were completed either by graphics or a completing substance

    - as it can't explain the jump from molecule to a living cell

  • @sangafani

    * There's no scientifically academic evidence for the existense of Noah at all. A man said to have reached 1000 years old. You believe this?

    *Haven't heard of this book. I've read: On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, not the one you read.

    *you believe one claim, because it suits your creationism.

    * Tell me about it

    * lies, see : "Lucy", "Turkan boy", various Neanderthal skeletons etc.

    * Define pleasure. Whatever you mean by it, science can explain it.