TX State Rep. Leo Berman Pushes "Birther" Bill

[tgear77]

@jmwwd Oh, you wound me to the core. Alas, how will I ever compete with someone of your rapier-sharp wit?

BTW, still waiting for you to show me where in the Constitution it states what you claim it does. But you can't.

[tgear77]

@jmwwd No, it is not. How hilarious it is that you of all people would insult someone regarding their intelligence. What I love is how I have asked you to show me where in the Constitution it states what you claim and you totally avoided that. So you now have proven yourself not only to be ignorant, but also to be a coward. BTW, just because you have no education does not mean that others do not as well. I have 3 B.A. degrees. Stop making a fool out of yourself and shut up now.

[tgear77]

@jmwwd I have. You clearly haven't or else you would know that all that is required is to be 35 yrs. old, to have lived in the US for the past 14 years and to be a Natural Born Citizen, of which there is no definition. Your ignorance is astounding.

[tgear77]

@jmwwd No, it does not. If you feel that it does, then show me exactly where it says so. I won't hold my breath waiting for a reply because, unlike you, I have actually read the document and know what it says. Just for giggles, explain why, if the Constitution says what you claim, no one on the Clinton or McCain campaigns bothered to mention this little tidbit which would have eliminated Obama from the competition. Again, won't hold my breath waiting for you to answer.

[tgear77]

@jmwwd First off, moron, no one has seen any "court documents" showing payments. That would be protected by attorney/client privilege. Second, in most Birther cases, the defense was handled by the other plaintiffs named in the cases. So, no, there is no evidence showing he has spent 'millions of dollars'. There is only Birther BS that you swallowed hook, line and sinker.

[tgear77]

@jmwwd But he hasn't 'spent millions of dollars' doing that. If you believe he has, produce some evidence. I know more about the Constitution than you do since you keep claiming that there is a definition for Natural Born Citizen. I also know more about Hawaii because I have actually done the research while you just regurgitate the Birther lies. You need to read the Constitution at least once in your life. Get on it, moron.

[tgear77]

@jmwwd Sorry, but there is no legal definition of Natural Born Citizen. The citizenship of your parents does not matter when you are running for the Presidency. It's not a matter of defending Obama; It has to do with knowing the facts. Something that you have no idea about.

[clarity023]

@jmwwd "I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago...."

And I laugh @ YOU! Who is the brainless and moron? You're right! THE BIRFERS, LMAO!

[clarity023]

@jmwwd Really? All the lawsuits against his eligibility have been dumped! 76+ cases look up!

Why do you think Oily Titz was fined 20K? You're right? They are frivolous cases. Obama lawyers are working pro bono, you don't have to dig anything just Google them Alan Keys is just jealous of Obama because he won twice, lol! the senate seat and the presidency, hahaha Birthers are the morons, Congress and even the WHouse is ignoring you guys, you are the moron, living in birtherlandia! LOL!

[clarity023]

@jmwwd cont'd 28W_9feWxBg 

What's your evidence, birfer?

[clarity023]

@jmwwd Look who's talking about brains. First show me the evidence that Obama has spent millions in court to block the release of his bc, go ahead. Also you have to go to the eye dr because Obama posted his bc 2 yrs ago and the REPUBLICAN gov of HI certified he was born in there. You are repeating the same bs Trump said on tv. He just

showed he is an idiot ON NATIONAL TV.

cont'd

[Petekiv]

how can obama be illegal? Ever hear of a coon lying? Also, we gonna take over everything, so whitey better just let us darkies rule!

[lptinvestor]

That bill will constantly fail at becoming LAW in ANY state that introduces this legislation. President Barack H. Obama will be on the ballot in ALL 50 U.S. States in November, 2012 with THE EXACT SAME birth certificate that he submitted in 2008. And there's nothing that Leo Berman or anybody else can do to stop it. I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!

[memama2]

..the obots ~ roil & boil ~ over the barry boy baloney going on. THEY have to try to prop up the liar because he stays in hiding day after day (only foraging out to kiddies classrooms to lie some more)

[SEEPRICE]

did he really say youtube videos are infallible?

what... the...fuck?

[memama2]

- where online can I read obama/soetoro college thesis?

[jy22077]

Dr. Fukin is no longer credible due to Governor's Abercrombie's statments and actions and his failure to produce Obama's long-form BC. According to Abercrombie, the only thing he found was unspecified notation of Obama's birth listed in a state archive. That does not sound like birth certificate. More than likely, he found the evidence of the grandparent's false registration that Obama was born in Hawaii.

[arrrogantlyignorant]

@jy22077

What does Abercrombie have to do with Dr. Fukino's credibility?

Her statements are totally credible. Abercrombie never promised to produce a long form, nor did he ever say he couldn't find it.

Your idea about the "grandparents false registration" is nothing more than speculation, which is all birthers have. Please feel free to provide some evidence that supports your assertions.

[jy22077]

Dr. Fukino is no longer credible. The original birth certificate on file is probably the the registration vital record filed by the grandparents when Obama was falsely registered as being born in Hawaii.

[arrrogantlyignorant]

@jy22077

Why is Dr Fukino "no longer credible?

[memama2]

jy22077 - people that comment with a reference using "fukino said barry's COLB is okey dokey) ..??? .....have no clue as to how commies/liars/illegals used Hawaii as an avenue to gain a US birth cert. For welfare checks or child care payments. Little know fact? Grandma Dunham was a volunteer at Oahu District Probate Court and had access to deceased persons records & SS#'s ....hmmmmm?????

[jy22077]

Mike Evans lied claiming he mispoke. This isn't true. Mike Evans was apparently coerced or threatened by Hawaii or Obama into changing his story. We know this because Mike Evans stated categorically to at least 3 different radio stations that Abercrombie had personally told him that No long-form BC exists for Obama and that there is no proof Obama was born in Hawaii. There is no indication anywhere that Mike Evans had mispoke.

[arrrogantlyignorant]

@jy22077

Abercrombie never said he "can't find it, or that it does not exist". That is pure made up nonsense.

Evans categorically lied multiple times to get listeners and ratings.

Obama already provided proof that he was born in Hawaii. That was totally backed up by the Hawaii Dept of Health and corroborated by the newspaper birth announcements that appeared in TWO different Honolulu newspapers in Aug 1961.

[MrOne4truth]

and Obama's father was in WW2 as he Obama said,come on,his father would have been 10 years old

[AMPatriot4Life]

Gov Abercrombie told Mike Evans that he could not find a 1961 LONG FORM HAWIIAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE because it does not exist.

[arrrogantlyignorant]

@AMPatriot4Life

No he didn't. Evans openly admitted that he lied and actually has not spoken to Abercrombie since he was elected Governor.

We already know that the original exists through Dr. Fukino's statements. Why are you continuously posting that it doesn't?

[jy22077]

The grandparents did this to give Obama US citizenship for the benefits. All circumstancial evidence points to birth in Kenya but Canada is a possibility as well.

[tgear77]

@jy22077 "All circumstancial(sic) evidence points to birth in Kenya but Canada is a possibility..." Are you really so dumb that you do not realize that you just contradicted yourself? If all the evidence points to Kenya, then Canada can't be a possibility. And what evidence are you speaking of since there is none that points to Kenya.

[SEEPRICE]

@jy22077

"The grandparents did this to give Obama US citizenship for the benefits."

since his mother was a US citizen Obama would automatically have US citizenship. so what "benifits" are you talking about?

the only thing he would not have been able to do was be Pres or VP, I really dont think they were looking that far ahead...

do you have any proof to support your arguments that he was not born in HI?

[jy22077]

The prevailing theory is that Obama was NOT born in Hawaii but merely had his birth registered there by his grandparents. That is why Obama can't produce the long-form BC because it doesn't exist. What exists is a fraudent birther statement submitted by the grandparents registering Obama as being born there. That is what generated the birth announcements and why the birth announcements list the grandparent's home address - They are the ones who reported the birth.

[tgear77]

@jy22077 That is not a "prevailing theory", that is a Birther claim without any evidence. If, as you say, the grandparents had tried to register Obama as a home birth, that would have called for the DOH to investigate and keep from issuing an approval for a birth announcement for months. Obama's announcement appeared less than 2 weeks after his birth in 2 papers. So, no, you are wrong.

[1940jan]

The Denialists are a motley crew of grifters, felons, malcontents, anti-Semites and sore losers. James Manning, the latest to get on the crazy train, has a lengthy criminal record: he burgled homes, mostly on Long Island, and spent about 3½ years in prison in NY and Florida for burglary, robbery, larceny, criminal possession of a weapon, and other charges.

[ApologiaTV]

Hey Rep. Rafael Anchia, some people believe in Obama's Birth Certificate too, even though no one has ever seen it.

[ApologiaTV]

Uh, the report says that he has released his birth certificate...that is inaccurate and underlines the whole issue here.

[Jazzycat47]

Of all the losers I've seen in the Texas legislature over the last 50 years, Leo Berman has to be the most ignorant.

[AMPatriot4Life]

There is no 1961 Long Form Birth Certificate from Hawaii. If there was one then someone would have released it like Gov Abercrombie promised to do. Obama/Soetoro never lived at the address on the newspapers that was his grandparents house.

[arrrogantlyignorant]

@AMPatriot4Life

“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."

(Dr. Chiyome Fukino - former Director - Hawaii Dept of Health - Oct. 31, 2008)

[arrrogantlyignorant]

@AMPatriot4Life

There is no requirement/law that future Presidential candidates cannot live at their grandparents house.

What exactly are you trying to say here?

[AMPatriot4Life]

@arrrogantlyignorant

He never did live there. His grandparents simply registered the birth by giving statements after he was born overseas. Who wouldn't want US citizenship for their grand kids?

[arrrogantlyignorant]

@AMPatriot4Life

And exactly what evidence do you have that that is what actually took place?

Overseas? Where are you saying he was born?

If it was "overseas", WHY would Hawaii have his original birth certificate?

So, Stanley Ann Dunham listed her parents address. So?

[AMPatriot4Life]

@Trafalgar1961

Abercrombie told CNN that he would release the presidents Long Form 1961 Birth Certificate. Instead he fired Fukimo, the one person to ever say they saw his original birth certificate.

He used a search warrant and still could not find the 1961 Long Form Birth Certificate, he searched both hospitals Queens and Kapiolani and could not find it, he searched all of the state records and concluded it does not exist.

[arrrogantlyignorant]

@AMPatriot4Life

Abercrombie did not fire Dr. Fukino. She stepped down when Abercrombie was elected because she was appointed by former Gov Linda Lingle.

If you'd read the statements from Dr. Fukino, you would know that Dr. Alvin Onaka also viewed the original bc.

Abercrombie did not use a search warrant. Where do you get this?

Hospitals are bound by privacy laws.

Abercrombie never "concluded" that it does not exist.

[AMPatriot4Life]

@arrrogantlyignorant

So according to you ONLY 2 people in the whole world have seen the long form birth certificate?

Why only these two people? Why can't the rest of us see it? Why did he have to rely on his former Annenberg employer factcheck to verify his COLB?

Why not anyone from a real media organization?

[arrrogantlyignorant]

@AMPatriot4Life

Read Hawaii Revised Statute §338-18

Unless you have a "direct and tangible interest" as defined by that statute, you can't see it.

[Trafalgar1961]

@AMPatriot4Life "Abercrombie told CNN that he would release the presidents Long Form 1961 Birth Certificate"

No, He didn't. You have been mislead by WND, and Miss Tickly et al.

Find me one direct quote of Abercrombie saying he was searching/looking for the 'long form', or that he couldn't find the long form.

You should be able to *prove* your claim of the search warrant, too. I'm waiting.

I suspect I'll be waiting some time.

[AMPatriot4Life]

@Trafalgar1961

I have not been misled by anyone I saw him tell CNN that he would release all the documents and get rid of the controversy.

And yet he has not released a 1961 Birth Certificate because one DOES NOT EXIST.

[arrrogantlyignorant]

@AMPatriot4Life

Abercrombie never said he can't find it or that it does not exist. He CANNOT release it because he does not have a "direct and tangible interest" as defined by Hawaii Revised Statute §338-18.

We already know from Dr. Fukino's previous statements that the original DOES exist.

Stop posting lies.

[memama2]

arrrogantlyignorantobot - Obama most likely has underage mama (making him illegal) ..or the paper in that file has grandma signature on it. (to get welfare & State aid for barry boy) What ever is in that file? Stays hidden for a real bad reason! (for obama)

[arrrogantlyignorant]

@memama2

Stanley Ann Dunham's age is irrelevant. Obama was born in Hawaii (US soil). He is a citizen at birth jus soli. His mother was an American, making him also a citizen at birth jus sanguinis.

Citizen at birth = natural born citizen.

[memama2]

arrrggie - all the missing paper work is going to be demanded before next election. So owebummer is 1 & done

[arrrogantlyignorant]

@memama2

What missing paperwork?

Are you planning on rewriting the Consitution?

[SEEPRICE]

@arrrogantlyignorant

she did rewrite the Constitution, didnt you get your copy of the Memmama constitution in the mail last week? I got mine. lmao but it is written in ancient Kryptonian so you will need to order a Kyptonian to english dictionary too

[arrrogantlyignorant]

@SEEPRICE

LOL exactly. 

[clarity023]

@memama2

You're just grasping at straws, Obama is an eligible president like it or not. Where is your evidence he is not?

Exactly! NONE.

[memama2]

clarity023  - inside his skelton closet with all the locks (we have never even seen his college recordsor who paid for it) seeeeeessshhhh

[arrrogantlyignorant]

@memama2

The Constitution doesn't say anything about college records or how anyone is supposed to pay for it.

[clarity023]

@memama2 college records= not a presidential requirement, nice try birfer.

[SEEPRICE]

@memama2

her age means nothing.

are you saying that anyone who is born to a 13 14 15 etc year old mother can not be a president?

[clarity023]

@memama2 Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett examined a copy of President Obama’s published Certification of Live Birth and said that its contents meet the requirements of the Arizona birther bill, HB2177, which was passed by the Arizona house last Thursday and is headed to the governor for signature. Bennett stated the hospital, physician and witness signatures mentioned in the bill are not absolute requirements, but only required “if applicable

Note: Bennett is a REPUBLICAN! lol!

[memama2]

clarity023  "the published" kinkos copy Soetoro/Obama posted? Is not a ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE dumb dim. Wake up dummies & do some research. That includes all parties & poe-dunks. Try again dufous.....

[clarity023]

@memama2 The Hawaiian state health official who personally reviewed Barack Obama’s original birth certificate has affirmed again that the document is “real” and denounced ” conspiracy theorists in the so-called “birther” movement for continuing to spread bogus claims about the issue.

“It’s kind of ludicrous at this point,” Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the former director of Hawaii’s Department of Health, said in a rare telephone interview with NBC.

HAHAHAHAHA

[memama2]

clarity023 - try handing that fraud paper owebummer McCOLB to a couple dozen world wide paper experts! They will vote = prognosis negative on your lookee-lou-liars who SAW the Soetoro suga-coated spoof. And called it "real"....It will go *poof* & the story of the Century will be born ~

[clarity023]

@memama2 Sorry but your opinion does not count. You're a birfer.

[Trafalgar1961]

@AMPatriot4Life No, he was ASKED if he was going to try and release the BC, and he replied he was going to do what was *legally possible*.

I could have told him it wasn't legally possible for him to release Obama's BC.

[memama2]

Keep going! The whole thing will unravel ~ if a half dozen paper experts get a hole of that mcfraud COLB & other paper associated with it! GREAT JOB! WE THE PEOPLE WANT THIS FOLLOWED THROUGH!

[memama2]

Watch YouTube video: .."Born In The U.S.A." Factchecks photo forgery on film

[memama2]

Watch YouTube video: ... FRAUD IN THE USA - (Chapter 1, Part 1)

[Trafalgar1961]

@memama2

I'm one of 'we the people' too.

You haven't got a shred of evidence to back up your nonsense claims. That's whay all your 'stars' nod and wink with regard to birtherism, rather than telling you outright.

You're just another vote to them.

[memama2]

Trafalgar1961 - the game ain't over till the soetoro secrets get OUTED (like tigee woods & johhny boy edwards)

[Trafalgar1961]

@memama2 Yeah, yeah, I've heard it all before - for 3 years now. 'Any day now...' the classic birther refrain, or should that be 'lament'?

[memama2]

Trafalgar1961 - obama/soetoro is a slippery socialist suck-u-buss - who slips & slides and has tried to keep his slimy past hidden. Happily the whole thing will come apart when 1 person comes forward to OUT him with facts even you cannot ignore ~

[Trafalgar1961]

@memama2

The simple fact is we know more about Obama than any President at this stage in his tenure.

Not getting anywhere with this futile quest must be very frustrating.

In fact, the more birthers dig, the more proof they come up with of Obama's elligibility. (Like the POLK Directory, the Hawaiian Birth Data Index, the newspaper announcements and microfiches, the Passport Records for Ann Dunham and Lolo Soetoro - all found by birthers digging for dirt.

It must drive you crazy!

[memama2]

Trafalgar1961 - the passport records for Stanley Ann Dunham surrounding obama birth? Are missing. Also Dunham/Obama gave 2 different marriage dates for when she married Obama papa on passport apps.

[Trafalgar1961]

@memama2

So you have seen the documents. You must have seen that they clearly state, more than once, that he is 'an American Citizen by virtue of his birth in Hawaii', but you choose to focus on a mistaken marriage date (and I will check that out for myself).

[memama2]

Brand new info on "Western Journalism" home page entitled "Respected Legal Scholar: Is he or Isn't He an American Citizen?" ...connects to mass more investigations/articles of the badly faked up obama COLB ~

[Trafalgar1961]

@memama2 OK I have read the article and yes that's a bit of a coup for birthersAt long last an actual real Law Professor say's he thinks the issue should be addressed but re the idea of 'badly faked up obama COLB', you can't get around that Hawaii verified what it says as accurate!

You do know that 'Polarik' has been utterly discredited, don't you? Jim Robinson at Free Republic banned him for lying claiming a fellow Freepers COLB was a fake. The fellow freeper is a birther, too, BTW.

[memama2]

Brand new info on "Western Journalism" home page entitled "Respected Legal Scholar: Is He or Isn't He an American Citizen? ......has even more interesting articles & discussion about obama badly faked up COLB

[phishpac]

How frightening is it that we have a state representative who is willing to say "youtubes are infallible" on the record? He's off his rocker.

[bsteadman1]

Barack Hussein Obama II was born August 4, 1961 at the Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya and not in Hawaii as he claims. A high resolution copy of Obama's Kenyan birth certificate is available for free download at WasObamaBornInKenya (DOTcom) …The fascinating story of how Lucas Daniel Smith obtained a certified copy of Obama's birth certificate from the birth hospital is included as part of his 'July 4, 2010' Letter to Congress', which is also available at the same website.

[Trafalgar1961]

@bsteadman1 OFGS, Steadman. Lucas' BC is widely knwn as the FOSFKBC (you work it out).

[tgear77]

@bsteadman1 LOL! Lucas Smith, known con artist, has been claiming he has the "real" BC for over 2 years now. He started out trying to sell it on eBay until eBay banned him. Then he released a bullshit video here on YT claiming he was in Kenya, which was proved false. Then he offered it to Orly Taitz but refused to swear under oath that it was authentic. He sent copies via certified mail to each congressman and no one responded because they know he is a fraud. Yet you got sucked in by him.

[GUILDGOB]

Why not mention the fact that a LT Col is sitting in prison this very moment due to Obama's stone walling on the issue?

Or why not mention the fact that birth announcements and a short form certification are only records of Hawaii accepting him as a citizen, not a record of birth? (Birth announcements can be triggered by a birth being registered.)

Because reporters aren't willing to do their H/W on this one, and it's coming back to bite them on the ass.

[arrrogantlyignorant]

@GUILDGOB

(former Lt Col) Terry Lakin is sitting in prison because he disobeyed orders. Its not Obama's fault. Lakin has no one to blame but himself. Well maybe his idiot "lawyer" Jensen, for leading him to believe total nonsense.

[memama2]

GUILDGOB - when sheeple say "it was in the paper"! Please can someone tell them - that little barry boy - mama or grandma could have toddled down to fill out form CLAIMING ANYTHING! At that time & that lying piece of paper work & fake signiture (if its grandma D's) would then be reported into Newspaper as "baby boy born"...yadda yadda yadda lie lie lie. NEWSPAPER stories are "re-track-ted" all the time! P.S. Little know fact = Obama grandma dunham was a volunteer at Oahu District Probate Court!

[memama2]

ADD ON - that made old Gramdmaa Dunham have access to deceased person's SS#'s & info.(as volunteer) On Oahu Probate court! .... hmmm? Maybe that explains Soeotoro/Obama current CT social security number? And by the way. In Obama "dreams of my ghost dad" mcbook. Obama "claimed" he worked at Baskin Robbins Ice Cream Store in 1975? Yet the SS# he has now? Was issued in CT between 1977 - 1979? .......somethins not right here willis

[SEEPRICE]

@memama2

can you provide any tangible evidence that Obama was born outside of the United states?

[memama2]

SEEPRICE = YES! = missing paper work on obama going back to BEFORE he was born (parents marriage certificates missing/altered & divorce records & lies about when mom married - where she lived - her old passport ect ect ect)

[SEEPRICE]

@memama2

missing paperwork is not evidence. they are private records

I said (key word here) TANGIBLE missing

[Trafalgar1961]

@GUILDGOB

He's in prison for disobeying orders. Nothing else. 

He's lucky he ditched his 'dog-bite' birther lawyer and got a decent one - he'd be doing a whole lot more time if he hadn't. He's known as a 'Blue Falcoln ' now and forever more. 18 years of honorable service thrown away, and birther blogs hardly ever talk about him now. Maybe they have another 'mark' lined up?

[SEEPRICE]

@GUILDGOB

there is no LT Col sitting in prison because of this issue. there is a FORMER LT Col sitting in Prison because he wanted to play politics instead of doing his duty and deploy with his unit afghanistan. while claiming he was doing his constitutional duty (odd he ignored the constitution when he didnt ask Bush Jr and Clinton to prove eligibility)