...the man above talks about the other performers being robotic. Actually Pogorelich strikes me as being here very contrived, deliberate, like he has or knows only one way of playing this piece and it is THIS. Still HIS way of being contrived is not bad...but the "hard toil" shows a little bit too much...
@fredericfranc He does seem a bit tense in the shoulders, and I noticed his joints, in the left hand especially, contort into a very tense position during octave passages, but he nevertheless does a stellar job.
@712Stephen ...note the peculiar expression of pain(?) and disdain(?) on his face when he gets up from the piano, and certain unease in the audience's reaction...this artist is not trying to be a crowd pleaser, but his "fuck you" attitude is perhaps aimed at the jury, largely, and it is this that Miss Argerich liked (she was on the jury)...note Jimi's H's fondness for saying "fuck you" at the audience, presumably in a vaguely friendly way, but maybe not, I hope so, anyway...
wow @ 6:40 he out did Yundi Li and Martha Argerich....IMHO, i believe this is the best impression of this piece ive seen on you-tube so far... MY opinion of course... awsome performance
@afertyus1000 Argerichs interpretation is slow and boring... if this guy played this exact piece in her competition against her he would own imo obviously...
@geraldine855 imo i think argerich brings out the rich tonalities and gives the music a chance, his is good but the other chopin polonaise f sharp minor op44 is awful compared to rubinstein
Because it's music played with temperament and passion, if you listen to for example tchaikovsky it's very dynamic as well. It's the slavonic temperament my friend :D
...messes with the dynamics enough to make it sound like newly-discovered scherzo of Ch. ...the FIFTH scherzo?...I will take it...note the neat contemptuous-disdainful expression on his face at the end...no wonder Martha kind of took a shine to this guy...
@fredericfranc Imho he is just exhausted , look at his sonata 2 , IV movement, same competion, you can see he' s crying, i think he's just very sensitive..without it you can't play like he does..
@qqjefferson77 ...given the well known developments at this competition, the "scandal", etc., your comment here is very peculiar, about the "sensitive" thing, the supposed "crying", etc., this was and is an extremely deliberate, premeditated artist, everything he does at the keyboard, and off, is extremely deliberately preplanned and premeditated to the tiniest detail, and that is good because it works for him, by and large...
I will never understand why the professional critic class always rated Pogorelich poorly. The man just plays the music as he feels it, without excess and with unimpeachable technique. His delivery puts most others to shame... I won't name names but more than a few of the top performers deliver Chopin in an almost robotic fashion. Without measured, tasteful rubato, Chopin's music sounds farcical. With proper delivery, it is ethereal... unsurpassed, really.
Critics don't understand music, only social status, snobbery and pretentious destruction. Critics are jealous. Critics are mad that someone has broken the boundary of imagination and reality and gently brought others together in joy. Critics can't do these things so they take pot shots at it. Ivo's music is true music and will survive for centuries. The critics will perish into dust. Isn't that wonderful! Three cheers to Pogorelich, Karajan and Barbirolli, perish Hurwitz!
@ClaytonsVids To a point I agree with you; still one must be tolerant of others' opinions.Personally I am fascinated by Pogorelich and try never to miss a concert of his BUT he is very quirky, and more than a little bit eccentric. I love that in an artist, however it does polarize audiences & they either love him or hate him - there seems to be no middle ground. Unfortunately such overpowering personalities almost never do well in competitions. But, as we see, his career hasn't suffered.
He was my favorite pianist for a long time, too bad he does not perform any longer. I discovered him when he was about that age, he gave a benefit concert for UNESCO in Paris, not long after he won the international competition. From the 1st couple of notes he played, my ears perked and I knew he was a great one... have followed him to many concerts since until he quit the performance scene! Anybody of the critics who did not like him ... well, they were simply jealous!
I love his playing. As a formerly injured pianist I recognize motions that caused my injury. I hope he never has to suffer from this and is one of the lucky ones.
Ohh...I saw him live preforming in Croatia(Country of his birth) in capital city Zagreb. On 12.3.2011.He is still awesome, after 30 years, there is still something in him. With his talent, he excite everyone else, and give us an opportunity to enjoy in MUSIC.
Pogorelić we love you, and your AWESOME playing!!!
@KChopin95 nonononononono Ivo was born in Berlgrade Yugoslavia not crotia his dad was croation and his mom was serbian but that doesnt matter were are all brothers and sisters rember that.
one of the best playings of scherzo 3 ever...theres only a handful of pianists that can play this song right---it requires speed, technical perfection, and interpretive passion...and pogorelich nails it...
His technique is impressive, but those octaves are supposed to be forte, not piano. I don't know why he played them as he did -- when played as written, the octaves offer an amazing contrast to the preceding passage.
Pogorelich is for me a genius. Even at his most eccentric he resonates for me. He digs deep and is mentally behind every note he plays. I attended two concerts here in sydney - he wrapped the audience up in his sound. it was remarkable and I will never forget it.
@TheKeenanBoy It was in the early 80s I heard him here at the Sydney Opera House. Magic! Over the years he has polarised the musical world a little with his interpretations, but he always - always! - reaches me. You should listen to his recordings of Scarlatti. Incredibly beautiful! Also the Liszt Sonata - not Liszt as we know him, but goodness, it is something. I was utterly floored by it. Equally so the Chopin Preludes. Pogorelich will forever remain for me a great Artist.
@6lues6rother yes. to have such a famous and able musician (agerich) boycott the most prestigious piano competition in the world because he was not through to the finals is a testament to his incomprehensible talent.
@ljoekelsoey4 wait so..... tell me this story, this guy didnt win the competition because? and agerich was involved whaaaat? please do tell (not being sarcastic btw, just curious thanks :)
I've heard Argerich, Pogorelich and Rubinstein playing this piece. While I like Ivo very much playing Scarlatti and Ravel I don't think he "got" Chopin here. He makes it into a race. I can imagine, why Argerich wanted Pogorelich to take 1st price so much, she is equally a "physical" player.
Rubinstein remains the pianist with the most "polish" touch (surprise ;-)). He played Chopin with the most dignity.
Oh my god, i mean I like pogorelich; but this way fo playing a scherzo is quite weird ! this is a scherzo, not a musci from a horror movie (especially the beginning)! this is chopin, not a race about who's better in fortissimos and playing very fast
his interpretations of chopin when he was quite older, are much better, does anyone agree with that?!
MANY YOUNGER PIANISTS HAVE SINCE STARTED PLAYING IT LIKE THIS 3BEATS IN A QUICK ONE .iT HAS BECOME A DIFFERENT KIND OF MUSIC SINCE1980.pOGO'S GENIUS. SCREPSKI has recorded like this but he does have the technique or insistency of this kind of playing. Also ,the idea here is feral,vital . IT IS CHASING SOMETHING CONSTANTLY FORWARD THEN IN D FLAT : restrained REGRET . AN INTERPRET OF GENIUS something MOST NO HAVE . music is about brain .
The famous scandal already brewing, but that jury should have seen they had a real rare musician here. The ferocity and delicacy at the same time, all harmonized out in a consistent rendition, how many of them can do it? Any recent winners, you think?
does anyone know what happened to the video of Pororelich playing Chopin's Polonaise in F# Minor? it was taken down which is BS! one of the best performances Ive ever seen
@v4liumfrance omfg i said the same thing looking at this video... im like "wait this guy looks young" (face wise), then i look at this hands its like looking at Horowitz hands LOL...j/k
@fredlvonderalm omfg omfg .....LOL i swear i was saying the same thing too on top of his old looking hands LOL.... i believe he was chewing gum... or he has tourets lol j/k j/k....
most of the judges are idiots, for years looking for some1 who can the most "copy" chopin and play exactly like him when its impossible to know how chopin actually played, so instead of looking for talents who give chopin a nice twist they live in their box.
@surrealillness Hmmm, thanks for that comment I can tell you know what you're talking about. All I know is that this guy didn't have to write the music, to feel it, be in it know it and interpret it AMAZINGLY oh wow, oh wow...don't stop playing. Thanks again for that comment.
This man's love of music really shows in the way he lingers over every note, invoking the singing qualities of the piano. Even the faster passages have so much nuance! This is how Chopin should be played - sensual passion tempered by intellectually probing objectivity.
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Waaaay too fast. Trying to impress the judges with his speed and accuracy, but missing all the beauty and refined elegance Chopin tried so hard to convey on the written page.
like a lot of ppl did not like him for his original style, they didn't consider it as a good interpretation of chopin they kinda thought he was mocking his music in a way
This piece is probably the most physically demanding composition by Chopin. He wrote and dedicated this piece to a very strong and passional pupil of his (Adolf Gutmann) who was reknown for his physical power. Arthur Rubinstein said: "this scherzo takes out from me more physical strength than any other work I know". When I finish this piece, I must stop for a minute to rest before playing anything else.
@voolare That's the fact most people don't realize. Playing an instrument is very hard work. I only played some very simple classical pieces on guitar and piano but it's clear to me how physically demanding it can be. I can only try to imagine what it would mean to play something like this.
As someone who has performed this work as well, I have to agree. It takes a few minutes of warming up before I can work up enough energy to play the octaves in the left hand properly -- then to switch to the arpeggios, which have to be played much more delicately, this piece is really a "piece of work!"
@voolare The scherzo is difficult mainly because of the speed at which you have to play, and the level of technical mastery you need to execute the octaves and the leggierissimo sections. But overall, coordination is not much of an issue. Ballades 4 and 1, I think, are the hardest of Chopin's compositions, no. 1 because of the presto con fuoco section, which I just can't seem to negotiate, and no. 4 because of the contrapuntal style used in the coda, and indeed, overall.
@voolare Well, no offense to Arthur but since he never bothered to record Chopin's etudes, the most technically demanding of his pieces, i find that statement a bit ignorant. I guess the key words in his statement are "work i know" cause to say this is more physically demanding that Etudes 10-1, 10-2, 10-10, 10-12, 25-12 is flat out wrong.
@debussy84 I heard Rubinstein in 1972/73 (age 85/86) play Brahms #2 and Rachmaninoff #2 in one evening w. the BSO, M. Tilson Thomas conducting. Anybody who can do that (at any age) has my full attention when he begins talking abt. pieces he finds strenuous. BTW, every single Etude you name above, I heard Rubinsteinm play live. Once the complete Op. 10 in a recital, and most of Op. 25 at one time or another as encores. However, I didn't realized that he never recorded them. Thanks for the info!
@debussy84 I don't know why, but on a debate about Chopin, I tend to give more credibility to Rubinstein than to you. The etudes are much shorter and less physically demanding than this scherzo. Please be aware of the difference between "physically demanding" and "technically difficult". I suggest you sit at the piano, read through the first few pages of the Scherzo and try to play them at decent speed. You will start to understand what Ruby was talking about.
You think it's really Leon Fleisher at 7:35? There is a lot of resemblence I must say, but I saw vids from him in the early 80's and he still had dark hair and was not so fat! Besides, it was not easy for an American to be in Poland in 1980.
good god his playing gives me goosebumps
thedirtymeatball 3 days ago
...the man above talks about the other performers being robotic. Actually Pogorelich strikes me as being here very contrived, deliberate, like he has or knows only one way of playing this piece and it is THIS. Still HIS way of being contrived is not bad...but the "hard toil" shows a little bit too much...
fredericfranc 1 week ago
@fredericfranc He does seem a bit tense in the shoulders, and I noticed his joints, in the left hand especially, contort into a very tense position during octave passages, but he nevertheless does a stellar job.
712Stephen 1 day ago
@712Stephen ...note the peculiar expression of pain(?) and disdain(?) on his face when he gets up from the piano, and certain unease in the audience's reaction...this artist is not trying to be a crowd pleaser, but his "fuck you" attitude is perhaps aimed at the jury, largely, and it is this that Miss Argerich liked (she was on the jury)...note Jimi's H's fondness for saying "fuck you" at the audience, presumably in a vaguely friendly way, but maybe not, I hope so, anyway...
fredericfranc 1 day ago
I can say only one word:AMAZING!
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the piano probably had to go to counseling after that performance
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1Thompsonmusic 4 weeks ago
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lol shut the fuck up dumbass
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why are you removing you comments?
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1Thompsonmusic 4 weeks ago
J'adorerai lui ressembler... Même de loin...
C'est ce genre d'artiste qui me donne envie de progresser... *_* Merci.
I'd love looking like him. Even seen from very far. (I'm trying to translate some french stuff, sorry... -_-)
That kind of artist does make me want to progress. *_* Thank you.
MllePortanie 1 month ago
Wow, this is really unique. I like it! Shame on the jury for kicking him out.
joelwagnerpiano 1 month ago
This is creativity.
This is originality.
This is the essence of a true master at work.
This is POGORELICH.
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1Thompsonmusic 4 weeks ago
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lol juiceforjoe is right though
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juiceforjoe 1 month ago
that is how the bests do it! :D
TheMozo5 1 month ago
Genije:)
GLAZBENIOGLASNIK 1 month ago
PERFECT!
0911926166 2 months ago
Listen to that same Scherzo played by Milosz MAGIN. Available on YOUTUBE !
olgaszkop 2 months ago
Oh yes, Liszt also had extra joints on his fingers!!
Bluetooth6483 2 months ago
the sex maniac argerich liked him she was probably looking at his tight trousers!
afertyus1000 2 months ago
I don't think I've ever seen fingers like that in my life. They look they each have an extra joint!
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kecmanveljko 3 months ago
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH i JIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIZED
ValdemarDragunov 3 months ago
He is just great. He makes you listen to the music deep.
Every second is great.
abelless1 4 months ago
this is the cleanest performance ever
N321MM 4 months ago
I LOVE THIS MAN...:-)fantastic!!!
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1Thompsonmusic 5 months ago
love the coda
BassicStorm 5 months ago
@12345anonymousperson too perfect IMO
Damgoodballers8 5 months ago
wow @ 6:40 he out did Yundi Li and Martha Argerich....IMHO, i believe this is the best impression of this piece ive seen on you-tube so far... MY opinion of course... awsome performance
Damgoodballers8 5 months ago
@Damgoodballers8 nah prefer argerichs interpretation
afertyus1000 2 months ago
@afertyus1000 Argerichs interpretation is slow and boring... if this guy played this exact piece in her competition against her he would own imo obviously...
geraldine855 2 months ago
@geraldine855 imo i think argerich brings out the rich tonalities and gives the music a chance, his is good but the other chopin polonaise f sharp minor op44 is awful compared to rubinstein
afertyus1000 2 months ago
Because it's music played with temperament and passion, if you listen to for example tchaikovsky it's very dynamic as well. It's the slavonic temperament my friend :D
HemligaHemulen 6 months ago
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1Thompsonmusic 6 months ago
How did he not win???!!
8beef4u 6 months ago
@8beef4u he did :)
BassicStorm 6 months ago
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mladen421 6 months ago
@mladen421 realno nije, ali je steako vecu slavu od tog koji je pobedio ^^
BassicStorm 6 months ago
Brilliant!
pila406 6 months ago
I Like Martha argerich's perforrmance... but i LOVE THIS!!!!
LittleArgerich 6 months ago 2
GENIUS!!!!!!!
yankblub 6 months ago
...messes with the dynamics enough to make it sound like newly-discovered scherzo of Ch. ...the FIFTH scherzo?...I will take it...note the neat contemptuous-disdainful expression on his face at the end...no wonder Martha kind of took a shine to this guy...
fredericfranc 7 months ago
@fredericfranc Imho he is just exhausted , look at his sonata 2 , IV movement, same competion, you can see he' s crying, i think he's just very sensitive..without it you can't play like he does..
qqjefferson77 2 months ago
@qqjefferson77 ...given the well known developments at this competition, the "scandal", etc., your comment here is very peculiar, about the "sensitive" thing, the supposed "crying", etc., this was and is an extremely deliberate, premeditated artist, everything he does at the keyboard, and off, is extremely deliberately preplanned and premeditated to the tiniest detail, and that is good because it works for him, by and large...
fredericfranc 2 months ago
he is just a genius as Martha Argerich said!!!!
lantianshui 7 months ago
Genije
BassicStorm 7 months ago
correction, JIMI Hendrix is the Ivo Pogorelich of the guitar.
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he really feels the music! love it
melyanlevata 7 months ago
@888johngalt yeap
swamigal 7 months ago
favorite Chopin piece ever
glamshiitglitter 8 months ago
I will never understand why the professional critic class always rated Pogorelich poorly. The man just plays the music as he feels it, without excess and with unimpeachable technique. His delivery puts most others to shame... I won't name names but more than a few of the top performers deliver Chopin in an almost robotic fashion. Without measured, tasteful rubato, Chopin's music sounds farcical. With proper delivery, it is ethereal... unsurpassed, really.
ClaytonsVids 8 months ago 17
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Critics don't understand music, only social status, snobbery and pretentious destruction. Critics are jealous. Critics are mad that someone has broken the boundary of imagination and reality and gently brought others together in joy. Critics can't do these things so they take pot shots at it. Ivo's music is true music and will survive for centuries. The critics will perish into dust. Isn't that wonderful! Three cheers to Pogorelich, Karajan and Barbirolli, perish Hurwitz!
yenrabaraho 8 months ago 4
@yenrabaraho I think you nailed it.
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assindiastignani 6 months ago
@ClaytonsVids To a point I agree with you; still one must be tolerant of others' opinions.Personally I am fascinated by Pogorelich and try never to miss a concert of his BUT he is very quirky, and more than a little bit eccentric. I love that in an artist, however it does polarize audiences & they either love him or hate him - there seems to be no middle ground. Unfortunately such overpowering personalities almost never do well in competitions. But, as we see, his career hasn't suffered.
assindiastignani 6 months ago
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He was my favorite pianist for a long time, too bad he does not perform any longer. I discovered him when he was about that age, he gave a benefit concert for UNESCO in Paris, not long after he won the international competition. From the 1st couple of notes he played, my ears perked and I knew he was a great one... have followed him to many concerts since until he quit the performance scene! Anybody of the critics who did not like him ... well, they were simply jealous!
velvetpaws999 2 months ago
I love his playing. As a formerly injured pianist I recognize motions that caused my injury. I hope he never has to suffer from this and is one of the lucky ones.
McLellandPianoStudio 8 months ago
in this video one can see a genious creating... wonderfull.
MmeFigaro 9 months ago 4
AMAZING!
tecladistaofmetal 9 months ago
This is my favorite place on the internet.
vseproydetdozavtra 9 months ago 4
@ericsteph
you are completely right...
e0mc2andrea 9 months ago
Outstanding. Still gives me goosbumps, afer all these years. Chopin would love him for htis.
TheSassafras100 10 months ago 3
No wonder the jury discussed so vividly at the time... it is an interesting interpretation.
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giuseppe35789 10 months ago
i wish i could play like him. i would love to play a powerful piece like that
misscocacola15 10 months ago
Ohh...I saw him live preforming in Croatia(Country of his birth) in capital city Zagreb. On 12.3.2011.He is still awesome, after 30 years, there is still something in him. With his talent, he excite everyone else, and give us an opportunity to enjoy in MUSIC.
Pogorelić we love you, and your AWESOME playing!!!
KChopin95 10 months ago
@KChopin95 nonononononono Ivo was born in Berlgrade Yugoslavia not crotia his dad was croation and his mom was serbian but that doesnt matter were are all brothers and sisters rember that.
rakita13 10 months ago
@rakita13 no we ain't, so ask Ivo is he serbian, Yugoslav or Croatia so come back here and tell us ;)
swamigal 8 months ago
@KChopin95 12/3/2011? holly shit your from the FUTURE!? DAMN
Damgoodballers8 5 months ago
so great pianist! with unique stile and technique! hes my idol....
BassicStorm 11 months ago
wow every note is so clear!
Eeli2008 11 months ago
Ivo flippin' rules, dude. Brav with a capital O!
quintbromley 11 months ago
one of the best playings of scherzo 3 ever...theres only a handful of pianists that can play this song right---it requires speed, technical perfection, and interpretive passion...and pogorelich nails it...
xillian344 11 months ago
amazing.
glamshiitglitter 1 year ago
why does it say pogorelich? even on his recordings, it's pogorelic, isn't it?
Mirandasiwillja 1 year ago
1:08 - 1:10 how can he do that????
ilikehaku1100 1 year ago
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His technique is impressive, but those octaves are supposed to be forte, not piano. I don't know why he played them as he did -- when played as written, the octaves offer an amazing contrast to the preceding passage.
jbz7890 1 year ago
@jbz7890 I like to think of it as a lighter reminiscence of the earlier ferocious octaves
ilikehaku1100 1 year ago
he isn't just pianist
he's the jimmy hendrix of the piano :D
misiooo665 1 year ago 28
@misiooo665 correction, jimmy hendrix is the ivo pogorelich of the guitar.
mwu42251 9 months ago 70
@misiooo665 Jimmy Hendrix? Please...Segovia maybe.
ArtinArt 6 months ago 3
Ivo had a gift. He was a Chopin incarnate.
eastendimages 1 year ago
My favorite thing are the trickles from high to low...they're beautiful and so precise
derkaj2012 1 year ago
Has there been a better version of this?
ilikehaku1100 1 year ago
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No. But there are other great ones. See Yundi Li, for example.
gregorydotb 1 year ago
best chopin song known
glamshiitglitter 1 year ago
Pogorelich is for me a genius. Even at his most eccentric he resonates for me. He digs deep and is mentally behind every note he plays. I attended two concerts here in sydney - he wrapped the audience up in his sound. it was remarkable and I will never forget it.
PhillipLWilcher 1 year ago 3
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I agree. I wish I could see him play.
TheKeenanBoy 1 year ago
@TheKeenanBoy It was in the early 80s I heard him here at the Sydney Opera House. Magic! Over the years he has polarised the musical world a little with his interpretations, but he always - always! - reaches me. You should listen to his recordings of Scarlatti. Incredibly beautiful! Also the Liszt Sonata - not Liszt as we know him, but goodness, it is something. I was utterly floored by it. Equally so the Chopin Preludes. Pogorelich will forever remain for me a great Artist.
PhillipLWilcher 1 year ago 3
Pogorelich didn't get to the finals because "his playing was unnaceptable", although some judges said he was a genius, and maybe the winner.
Laudan08 1 year ago
@Laudan08 "some judges" ...arguably one of most talented pianists of the last 100 years, martha agerich
ljoekelsoey4 1 year ago 4
@ljoekelsoey4
Wasn't it like that, that Argerich boykotted the jury because of this?
6lues6rother 1 year ago 3
@6lues6rother yes. to have such a famous and able musician (agerich) boycott the most prestigious piano competition in the world because he was not through to the finals is a testament to his incomprehensible talent.
ljoekelsoey4 1 year ago
@ljoekelsoey4 wait so..... tell me this story, this guy didnt win the competition because? and agerich was involved whaaaat? please do tell (not being sarcastic btw, just curious thanks :)
Damgoodballers8 5 months ago
@ljoekelsoey4 was martha a judge at this competition? i did not know
Damgoodballers8 5 months ago
Fantastic pianist.. but what a diva at the end ;-)
bersa888 1 year ago 3
Yes,,,simply remarkable. !!!! I like reading the comments about it too. Thnx.
heraldsquare 1 year ago
5:50 -- never has that buildup given me chills like this before (and it definitely does give me chills every other time)...but wow...
fledgehog 1 year ago
I've heard Argerich, Pogorelich and Rubinstein playing this piece. While I like Ivo very much playing Scarlatti and Ravel I don't think he "got" Chopin here. He makes it into a race. I can imagine, why Argerich wanted Pogorelich to take 1st price so much, she is equally a "physical" player.
Rubinstein remains the pianist with the most "polish" touch (surprise ;-)). He played Chopin with the most dignity.
flippert0 1 year ago
Oh my god, i mean I like pogorelich; but this way fo playing a scherzo is quite weird ! this is a scherzo, not a musci from a horror movie (especially the beginning)! this is chopin, not a race about who's better in fortissimos and playing very fast
his interpretations of chopin when he was quite older, are much better, does anyone agree with that?!
ericsteph 1 year ago 6
@ericsteph you dont have idea about what youre talking, snob
rolipoli 1 year ago
@rolipoli @rolipoli
I'm sorry, i've been practicing piano for 12 years, how many years did you do?, and i know what i'm talking about,
this interpretation is really Different; i'm not criticizing ivo who's by the way an outstanding pianist
this interpretation quite explains why the jury was against him (except for martha)
tell me what you're getting out of his interpretation, because i'm not getting it, could you enlighten me, ^please?!
ericsteph 1 year ago
@ericsteph no, you have not enough brain to get enlightened... good luck next time
rolipoli 1 year ago
@rolipoli
But I have enough brain to defend my point of view, unlike you
ericsteph 1 year ago
@ericsteph never stop defending your point of view... youll maybe become a president xD
rolipoli 1 year ago
@rolipoli
No, thank you xD
ericsteph 1 year ago
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Especially for my friend Nenad: Mr. Ivo Pogorelich plays really awful!!! Truly, your Stanko. :)
87stanko 1 year ago
Especially for my friend Nenad: Mr. Ivo Pogorelich plays really awful!!! Truly, your Stanko. :)
87stanko 1 year ago
Ivo jest kolejnym wcieleniem Chopina
68janosik 1 year ago
Pogorelich has some gigantic hands
TwelfthRoot2 1 year ago 2
Best version that I heard of this piece.
loboris1995 1 year ago
@loboris1995 ik vind martha argerich de best versie, vooral in het begin
fr4545 1 year ago
Wspanialy pianista!!!
krzychu1204 1 year ago
Chopin is absolutely genius
Pogorleich is hands of God
egoistaX 1 year ago
MANY YOUNGER PIANISTS HAVE SINCE STARTED PLAYING IT LIKE THIS 3BEATS IN A QUICK ONE .iT HAS BECOME A DIFFERENT KIND OF MUSIC SINCE1980.pOGO'S GENIUS. SCREPSKI has recorded like this but he does have the technique or insistency of this kind of playing. Also ,the idea here is feral,vital . IT IS CHASING SOMETHING CONSTANTLY FORWARD THEN IN D FLAT : restrained REGRET . AN INTERPRET OF GENIUS something MOST NO HAVE . music is about brain .
lovesGenet 1 year ago
so Pogorelich can't possible be human, because this is just too amazing.
schoiful 1 year ago
Saw Ivo at the Barnstaple Geodrome.
His pacing surprised me. Hip, hip... stoop (pause)... thne scratch, scratch...
I couldn't quite understand....
Then she suddenly sat up up straight and looked at me straight in the eye... her jaw slightly jutting... but
Pogorelich was not on Steinway. A small Galstofer III baby-grandfather.
I flushed, Ivo laughed, then... we choked on beef. Help. Not me.
andreaprodan 1 year ago
Seems like his playing is always more clear than other pianists and lacks as much pedal.
gott1rott 1 year ago
The famous scandal already brewing, but that jury should have seen they had a real rare musician here. The ferocity and delicacy at the same time, all harmonized out in a consistent rendition, how many of them can do it? Any recent winners, you think?
fredericfranc 1 year ago 3
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Thank you pogorelich for this true pianissimo at 5:05 !
nicoejz 1 year ago
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nicoejz 1 year ago
does anyone know what happened to the video of Pororelich playing Chopin's Polonaise in F# Minor? it was taken down which is BS! one of the best performances Ive ever seen
JHighland1 1 year ago
@JHighland1
I believe it was served in a white wine sauce at the Wimbledon Videodrome.
Pogo on the bolonaise (or Bolognese).
andreaprodan 1 year ago
his fingers look very old and weak
v4liumfrance 1 year ago
@v4liumfrance Do they sound old and weak?
oyrish 1 year ago
@v4liumfrance omfg i said the same thing looking at this video... im like "wait this guy looks young" (face wise), then i look at this hands its like looking at Horowitz hands LOL...j/k
Damgoodballers8 5 months ago
I'm from Croatia :D and he's my idol..I'll never play like that..this is perfect :O
phoenix3081 1 year ago
he always looks like he's chewing on a chewing gum :)
fredlvonderalm 1 year ago
@fredlvonderalm omfg omfg .....LOL i swear i was saying the same thing too on top of his old looking hands LOL.... i believe he was chewing gum... or he has tourets lol j/k j/k....
Damgoodballers8 5 months ago
AMAZING
JHighland1 1 year ago
woohoo! wonderful superb magnificent!
xiuje87 1 year ago
and i thought playing the polonaise héroique looked tiring... until i saw this
funnybooboo8 1 year ago 2
@funnybooboo8 i did not know that he had played heroic polonaise. where can I find it?
wiklaczewski 1 year ago
WOW Ivo!!!
Matteo7419 1 year ago 4
veliki uzor margitin
lanesakorane 1 year ago
Look at the fingers at 1.06!
thetheatreofmadness 1 year ago 3
@thetheatreofmadness oh yes :)
DrJobs 1 year ago
Magnifico sei un genio .....
Niked04 1 year ago 2
exciting
xiuje87 1 year ago
most of the judges are idiots, for years looking for some1 who can the most "copy" chopin and play exactly like him when its impossible to know how chopin actually played, so instead of looking for talents who give chopin a nice twist they live in their box.
surrealillness 1 year ago
@surrealillness Hmmm, thanks for that comment I can tell you know what you're talking about. All I know is that this guy didn't have to write the music, to feel it, be in it know it and interpret it AMAZINGLY oh wow, oh wow...don't stop playing. Thanks again for that comment.
7thecheryl 1 year ago
Genius... his early things are simply incredible!!
banina48 1 year ago 2
This man's love of music really shows in the way he lingers over every note, invoking the singing qualities of the piano. Even the faster passages have so much nuance! This is how Chopin should be played - sensual passion tempered by intellectually probing objectivity.
squishym 1 year ago 27
Ironic but Pogorelich lost this competition..! There's 8 prizes, he didnt win neither of em but got an honourable mention in the end..!
marcusandguitar 1 year ago
And 6:28:)
Arxillion 1 year ago
5:53
Arxillion 1 year ago
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Waaaay too fast. Trying to impress the judges with his speed and accuracy, but missing all the beauty and refined elegance Chopin tried so hard to convey on the written page.
jjp009 1 year ago
r u kidding me this was such an original interpretation he was famous for this..lol it was actually a scandal
Guns8000 1 year ago
@Guns8000: A scandal at the competition you mean? What happened?
jjp009 1 year ago
like a lot of ppl did not like him for his original style, they didn't consider it as a good interpretation of chopin they kinda thought he was mocking his music in a way
Guns8000 1 year ago
Love the part at :35 with the bass
venik88 1 year ago
Wonderful playing. But it looks like it completely wore him out.
pipeorganloverNJP 1 year ago
This piece is probably the most physically demanding composition by Chopin. He wrote and dedicated this piece to a very strong and passional pupil of his (Adolf Gutmann) who was reknown for his physical power. Arthur Rubinstein said: "this scherzo takes out from me more physical strength than any other work I know". When I finish this piece, I must stop for a minute to rest before playing anything else.
voolare 1 year ago 57
@voolare 6:17 ending is INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!
fadethetrade 1 year ago 2
@voolare That's the fact most people don't realize. Playing an instrument is very hard work. I only played some very simple classical pieces on guitar and piano but it's clear to me how physically demanding it can be. I can only try to imagine what it would mean to play something like this.
dragmio 1 year ago 3
@voolare
source pls
v4liumfrance 1 year ago
@v4liumfrance digit on YT Rubinstein chopin scherzo 3 and you will see him saying so. Cheers
voolare 1 year ago
@voolare
As someone who has performed this work as well, I have to agree. It takes a few minutes of warming up before I can work up enough energy to play the octaves in the left hand properly -- then to switch to the arpeggios, which have to be played much more delicately, this piece is really a "piece of work!"
reddoghud 1 year ago
@voolare The scherzo is difficult mainly because of the speed at which you have to play, and the level of technical mastery you need to execute the octaves and the leggierissimo sections. But overall, coordination is not much of an issue. Ballades 4 and 1, I think, are the hardest of Chopin's compositions, no. 1 because of the presto con fuoco section, which I just can't seem to negotiate, and no. 4 because of the contrapuntal style used in the coda, and indeed, overall.
pipeorganloverNJP 1 year ago
@voolare amazing information :) wish if everyone was like you in youtube... thank you
MrFlamenco 1 year ago
@voolare its so demanding that i screwed up my fingers on it trying to play like this guy.
sociopathicregret 1 year ago 3
@voolare Well, no offense to Arthur but since he never bothered to record Chopin's etudes, the most technically demanding of his pieces, i find that statement a bit ignorant. I guess the key words in his statement are "work i know" cause to say this is more physically demanding that Etudes 10-1, 10-2, 10-10, 10-12, 25-12 is flat out wrong.
debussy84 11 months ago
@debussy84 I heard Rubinstein in 1972/73 (age 85/86) play Brahms #2 and Rachmaninoff #2 in one evening w. the BSO, M. Tilson Thomas conducting. Anybody who can do that (at any age) has my full attention when he begins talking abt. pieces he finds strenuous. BTW, every single Etude you name above, I heard Rubinsteinm play live. Once the complete Op. 10 in a recital, and most of Op. 25 at one time or another as encores. However, I didn't realized that he never recorded them. Thanks for the info!
assindiastignani 11 months ago
@debussy84 I don't know why, but on a debate about Chopin, I tend to give more credibility to Rubinstein than to you. The etudes are much shorter and less physically demanding than this scherzo. Please be aware of the difference between "physically demanding" and "technically difficult". I suggest you sit at the piano, read through the first few pages of the Scherzo and try to play them at decent speed. You will start to understand what Ruby was talking about.
voolare 10 months ago
You think it's really Leon Fleisher at 7:35? There is a lot of resemblence I must say, but I saw vids from him in the early 80's and he still had dark hair and was not so fat! Besides, it was not easy for an American to be in Poland in 1980.
voolare 1 year ago
Great ! great talent ! Love your feeling ~ wish I can listen your concert in Taiwan . From : Cherry ~
sakulamusic 2 years ago
i swear it never gets old and nothing i look up can top it. check out LEon Fleisher at 7:35
anonymousQ45 2 years ago
Imagine somebody showing up at a competition and playing like this -- and then not winning! It must have been politics...
ivelosthewilltolive 2 years ago