"Optimism is Cowardice" -Oswald Spengler

[Icecreamforcrowtoo]

Compare Nietzsche with his teacher, Schopenhauer, and you get a feeling for just how positive of a thinker he was. Nietzsche went to the depths of the well and salvaged human purpose in a form independent of unhealthy Christian moral abstraction. Pretty awesome stuff. Spengler, who was a Nietzschean in some ways himself, spoke of decline in a very matter of fact manner. But this candidness should not be confused with the feelings of a man who rejects life itself.

[collapseofthewest]

Anyone who made a comment about Hitler like "What Germany needs is a hero, not a heroic tenor," (as Spengler did) was not only dead-on accurate he was nobody's Nazi. And he paid a pretty steep price, too. House arrest, all his works out of print, etc. during his last two years alive.

Compared to a turd like Heidegger, Spengler at least had principles he was willing to stick to.

[Icecreamforcrowtoo]

@collapseofthewest

Heidegger was a turd? Is it okay to value both men?

[fntime]

Both Spengler & Nietzsche are incredibly interesting. Their observations

are insightful. But, their thinking is as delusional as the over

optimistic. The journey of the soul requires knowledge and insight.

Life often is a 'horror show', but happiness & contentment can be found

within the malstrom, if you allow yourself to be open to it.

The lives of both men either lead to their philosophy, or their philosophy

lead to their lives, which were sad & lonely. Too much thinking!

[FractalBolt]

Like the Death in June song, that's from their more dance oriented time with Patrick Leagues, isn't it?

[HourOfDecision777]

@FractalBolt Indeed, it is from "Nada!", the last album featuring Patrick Leagas. 

[10axyz]

No, there is a healthy optimism. Arnold Toynbee wrote - the decline of culture creates intolerable conditions for very important purpose: the inner world of human being rises on a new step; is born "the universal church" and spiritual association of people at more high level.

[tyoungos]

When Spengler said “Optismism is cowardice,” he actually meant cultural pessimism is proactive. His remarkable view allowed him in early 1930’s to accurately predict 1) the coming of WWII in which Western Civilization risked being destroyed; 2) the fall of the Third Reich which he viewed as too narrowly German, and not occidental enough to lead the fight against other peoples; 3) the final phase of a millennium culture cycle for Western Civilization in what we now know, New World Order. ☆☆☆☆

[das81]

name of the theme?.

Do you go to goth clubs or they come close to your taste?(I remember one which told Death in June weren't nazis and they were a GOTH BAND XD)

[HourOfDecision777]

@das81 Nah, this is Death in June which is "Neo folk", although the song in this video is from their only "dance" album "Nada!" The Song is "Carousel."

I also listen to old "goth (aka death rock)", groups like Bauhaus, Christian Death, 45 Grave, etc. as well. I don't really like any new goth groups nor am I really familiar with it.

[HourOfDecision777]

@das81

Death in June singer Pearce said, "At the start of the eighties, Tony and I were involved in radical left politics and beneath it history students. In search of a political view for the future we came across National Bolshevism which is closely connected with the Sturmabteilung hierarchy. People like Gregor Strasser and Ernst Röhm who were later known as 'second revolutionaries'

[das81]

@HourOfDecision777 Thanks for the data.

BTW, are you gonna make a Grey wolf video?, with Otto Kreshmer, Gunther Prien(The bull of Scapaflow), Herbert Werner, etc?.