This test, and the actual episode of dateline where they explain the results, is the reason I have a 2004 LeSabre. I've always had bigger cars or trucks. Its good to come on here and see how cars fair before you actually buy one. I have the side seat airbags in mine. Its a very well built car. I've even modified mine quite a bit with better suspension, and upgraded brakes. I plan on an L67 (supercharged) swap next year. And I hate seeing them ghetto'd out, too.
These are GREAT cars. I've owned one now for 6 yrs and put countless miles on it traveling state to state. It is unfortunate to see that people have to put 20-24" rims on them and speakers that shake bolt loose, it tends to give these cars the "ghetto cruiser" appeal. But hey, they are good at taking potholes and not spilling your homies 40oz. LOL
The lesabre is fucking fast or an automatic car. To all you lesabre haters drive one. At every single stop light I pull up to, when I take off I'm at least two car lengths ahead of someone before they really even get over the white lines. It's good car especially when you like to fuck with people on the road. Like others say, it's pretty deceiving. Grandma looks yes, but that V6 ain't losing anything power
IF THE lesabre was the best selling big car y in the world did GM replace it with the lucerne??? i mean its nice but neaver really did it for me with its style and the cabin is quite boreing compared to the lesabre and park avenue.....just my thoughts...
They replaced it with the Lucerne because they felt the LeSabre appealed only to older customers, and they wanted to shift Buick to a more "youthful" image. According to Bob Lutz, the Lucerne was "on life support" - meaning it more or less failed to win over customers.
As a former LeSabre owner, that Nissan Altima-lookalike was unacceptable. I bought a Grand Marquis, never looked back. I miss my '93 LeSabre though, back when Buick built Buicks instead of this import ripoff rubbish.
@hiho2121 very funny. my mother has an '03 and its really decieving. It has a 3.8 v6, and we were riding and smoked some riced out pontiac sunfire. and if you take the traction control off, it does pretty nice burnouts too
Ha, back when I had my '93 LeSabre I blew the doors off some hotshot in a Lexus trying to impress his girlfriend. I'll never forget the look on his face, it was priceless. That 3800 was a beast, 225 ft-lbs under the pedal in a car that's actually quite light for it's size made for a lot of fun. Granny car my ass.
The front door area crushed quite a bit. I thought Buicks were supposed to be safe. I've seen tests of subcompact cars that didn't intrude that much into the passenger area. This is bordering on pathetic.
This car has a GOOD rating on it. A wall test simulates if you hit another car dead on that is the same size. The rating indicates a GOOD result. If you hit a subcompact the results would be different. In addition cars have crumple zones. This makes the car "break" in certain areas MORE than others in order to save the occupant. While this crash test visually looks horrible, the cars protection devices are working as they should. The volvos look the same after a test crash.
unibody means that the body and the frame are one unit, not like older cars where the body was bolted onto a steel frame. Unibody, unit body, monocoque - same thing different names.
Yes the body is the frame and the frame is the body. It is considered better because it reduces weight of the car while making the car even more structurally rigid and safer overall. Almost every single car in the world is made of a unibody design.
Wrongo. You do know that GM does in-house crash tests correct?? Did you know that the Aurora destroyed their machine so they had to use an even more heavy duty wall to test it on? Exactly. And as much as the fact that the 2000-2005 ones shared a platform, the Buick was on a VARIATION of the Aurora cahssis, not the exact thing.
I forgot to mention that they had to use a frame crusher to test the Aurora and it exceeded govt crash test stanards. So, in no way does the LeSabre test represent the Aurora. But I am sorta making a fool of myself because the 1995-1999 Aurora was the one that broke the machine.
Full-frontal tests from the NHTSA US NCAP aren't BS. These tests assess the functioning of the safety systems.
However, full-frontal tests aren't used to assess the structural stability. That's where the IIHS offset test comes in.
Not only must the safety systems function to protect the occupants, but the vehicle structure must be able to maintain the integrity of the survival space so those systems can work.
This is why you should consider data from BOTH sources!
at 40mph against a wall is very different than against a car ,test would've been different ,the car instead of wall absorbs more of the impact so the car gets less damage well that's what I think
I love my 89 t-type lesabre... but i wrecked it once, and I have to tell you... 20mph, missed the bumper, and peeled everything above the bumper back like 18 inches. That took over a grand to fix
true, my bad, that's 40mph, but still what this test are looking for is no deformation of the inhabitated part of the vehicle, and it failed miserabily.
Look here, dumbass, it got the highest IIHS rating, for 2000 that was REALLY good and not all vehicles get that now. My point is, that at city speeds, in those conditions you would survive with no major injuries
You idiot, don't you relialize that all the accidents on the roads are offset ones, not retarded tests imitating the vehicle hitting a wall smack dab head on. Oh, yeah, retards like you have accidents like that.
this last comment of yours shows the full lenght of your ignorance, in the us ncap, every single crash test recreats an offset scenario, 4 crashes are simulated and also it is considered the size and weight of the car.
have you not been reading? where did I say that crashes are not offset in real life? have you been smoking salvia divinorum? and what's up with the personal message where you call me an idiot?
what I have been stating is that us ncap are way more reliable because more test are done and all of them in offset fashion, and the criteria to achieve full score is way more strict.
what would you rather have: a car seriously tested or one tested the sloppy way?
the 2000-2005 Buick LeSabre was assembled in
Lake Orion, Michigan, United States
Hamtramck, Michigan, United States
Annihilator1111 9 months ago
@Annihilator1111 care
BrunostNOR 8 months ago
This test, and the actual episode of dateline where they explain the results, is the reason I have a 2004 LeSabre. I've always had bigger cars or trucks. Its good to come on here and see how cars fair before you actually buy one. I have the side seat airbags in mine. Its a very well built car. I've even modified mine quite a bit with better suspension, and upgraded brakes. I plan on an L67 (supercharged) swap next year. And I hate seeing them ghetto'd out, too.
boostjunkie231 1 year ago
These are GREAT cars. I've owned one now for 6 yrs and put countless miles on it traveling state to state. It is unfortunate to see that people have to put 20-24" rims on them and speakers that shake bolt loose, it tends to give these cars the "ghetto cruiser" appeal. But hey, they are good at taking potholes and not spilling your homies 40oz. LOL
metalomat087 1 year ago
Looks bad. At least its only dope dealers in the hood who still have these.
FordV8Guy 1 year ago
@FordV8Guy im a white guy in nice suburbs, and i have a buick lesabre
TheRotaryman 1 year ago
@TheRotaryman Are you a kid? Is it your Dad's house? LOL!!! Otherwise, somebody's not keeking up with the Jones'!
FordV8Guy 1 year ago
@FordV8Guy haha good guess, i am 18. but its at my moms though
TheRotaryman 1 year ago
This car gets an A minus on safety in my opinion.
whattheheck1000 1 year ago
The lesabre is fucking fast or an automatic car. To all you lesabre haters drive one. At every single stop light I pull up to, when I take off I'm at least two car lengths ahead of someone before they really even get over the white lines. It's good car especially when you like to fuck with people on the road. Like others say, it's pretty deceiving. Grandma looks yes, but that V6 ain't losing anything power
Izoto593 1 year ago 3
Smash Lesabre Smash! I like seeing Lesabre being destroyed!
residentfan2 1 year ago
Lesabre. Being destroyed. Lesabre. Being crumpled. Lesabre. Being smashed.
Me like Lesabre being smashed.
Smash Lesabre Smash!
residentfan2 1 year ago
IF THE lesabre was the best selling big car y in the world did GM replace it with the lucerne??? i mean its nice but neaver really did it for me with its style and the cabin is quite boreing compared to the lesabre and park avenue.....just my thoughts...
gmman010983 1 year ago 2
They replaced it with the Lucerne because they felt the LeSabre appealed only to older customers, and they wanted to shift Buick to a more "youthful" image. According to Bob Lutz, the Lucerne was "on life support" - meaning it more or less failed to win over customers.
As a former LeSabre owner, that Nissan Altima-lookalike was unacceptable. I bought a Grand Marquis, never looked back. I miss my '93 LeSabre though, back when Buick built Buicks instead of this import ripoff rubbish.
robf93 1 year ago
@robf93 I had a 99 Grand Marquis, Now an 02 Crown Victoria, (about same car) They're awesome! Great cars.
FordV8Guy 1 year ago
@FordV8Guy I agree, owned the same cars. very reliable, tough cars, built to last that's for sure.
JoeyJr702 1 year ago
agreed I and it's stupid they named after a God damn milk brand haha
iGaRaai90 1 year ago
got a good for a rating, but it looks like if you when any faster the passenger compartment would cave in.
lemonloverx7 1 year ago
Grandma's brittle bones will break on impact :(
hiho2121 2 years ago 2
@hiho2121 very funny. my mother has an '03 and its really decieving. It has a 3.8 v6, and we were riding and smoked some riced out pontiac sunfire. and if you take the traction control off, it does pretty nice burnouts too
rushrocks125678 2 years ago
Ha, back when I had my '93 LeSabre I blew the doors off some hotshot in a Lexus trying to impress his girlfriend. I'll never forget the look on his face, it was priceless. That 3800 was a beast, 225 ft-lbs under the pedal in a car that's actually quite light for it's size made for a lot of fun. Granny car my ass.
robf93 1 year ago
@robf93
*high fives*
Izoto593 1 year ago
why would this apply to the oldsmobile? I thought the Aurora was the only car to be built on the G-body chassis?
cbburtraw 2 years ago
fords taurus held up better in this year! but this car is still pretty safe
jaffacake1578 2 years ago
why are the tires different ?
MilitantX23 2 years ago
looks reasonably safe to me
lucasfan18 2 years ago
The front door area crushed quite a bit. I thought Buicks were supposed to be safe. I've seen tests of subcompact cars that didn't intrude that much into the passenger area. This is bordering on pathetic.
qernst8 3 years ago
This car has a GOOD rating on it. A wall test simulates if you hit another car dead on that is the same size. The rating indicates a GOOD result. If you hit a subcompact the results would be different. In addition cars have crumple zones. This makes the car "break" in certain areas MORE than others in order to save the occupant. While this crash test visually looks horrible, the cars protection devices are working as they should. The volvos look the same after a test crash.
zipzangzoop 3 years ago 12
what woudl a crash be like onmy 1985-90 buick parkk avenue?
i understand its a "uni-body" what does that mea lol no frame or soehting?
randomrazr 3 years ago
unibody means that the body and the frame are one unit, not like older cars where the body was bolted onto a steel frame. Unibody, unit body, monocoque - same thing different names.
jgizzy 2 years ago
so theirs a frame that is "built in" into the body?
and is trhat betta?
randomrazr 2 years ago
Yes the body is the frame and the frame is the body. It is considered better because it reduces weight of the car while making the car even more structurally rigid and safer overall. Almost every single car in the world is made of a unibody design.
jgizzy 2 years ago
Jeez, that's pretty bad for a 2005 car.
palebeachbum 3 years ago
no it's not. that's really good.
driftnut56 2 years ago
where is the aurora? i see a buick...
killercan10 3 years ago
it was built off of the auroras chassis
fuzzzymaine2 3 years ago
okay, but, the Aurora is a "different" car, therefore, I do only see a Buick. No Aurora.
killercan10 3 years ago
but it is built off of the same platform,THEREFORE,its like crash testing two cars in one,most likely what you see here,you will see on the aurora
fuzzzymaine2 3 years ago
Wrongo. You do know that GM does in-house crash tests correct?? Did you know that the Aurora destroyed their machine so they had to use an even more heavy duty wall to test it on? Exactly. And as much as the fact that the 2000-2005 ones shared a platform, the Buick was on a VARIATION of the Aurora cahssis, not the exact thing.
killercan10 3 years ago 2
I forgot to mention that they had to use a frame crusher to test the Aurora and it exceeded govt crash test stanards. So, in no way does the LeSabre test represent the Aurora. But I am sorta making a fool of myself because the 1995-1999 Aurora was the one that broke the machine.
killercan10 3 years ago
exactly!
fuzzzymaine2 3 years ago
looks like it going 25mph to 30mph
Oh861 3 years ago
A little comment for all.
Full-frontal tests from the NHTSA US NCAP aren't BS. These tests assess the functioning of the safety systems.
However, full-frontal tests aren't used to assess the structural stability. That's where the IIHS offset test comes in.
Not only must the safety systems function to protect the occupants, but the vehicle structure must be able to maintain the integrity of the survival space so those systems can work.
This is why you should consider data from BOTH sources!
Watcher3223 3 years ago
at 40mph against a wall is very different than against a car ,test would've been different ,the car instead of wall absorbs more of the impact so the car gets less damage well that's what I think
curancho 3 years ago
An offset test is more demanding of a vehicle's structure. And 99% of real life accidents are offset ones, so that's why NHTSA tests are BS.
alexkvaskov 3 years ago
Really not all that bad for a twenty-two year old platform. The current H-Body Buicks do even better.
Daemonwoman 3 years ago
that was a huge improvement (looks better after crash!)
mycarkeys 3 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
If you think it looks better after the crash, you must see your eye doctor.
GMminivans9968 3 years ago
so, i must see my eye doctor?
alexkvaskov 3 years ago
mycarkeys must, lol.
GMminivans9968 3 years ago
I love my 89 t-type lesabre... but i wrecked it once, and I have to tell you... 20mph, missed the bumper, and peeled everything above the bumper back like 18 inches. That took over a grand to fix
VinXLQ1 3 years ago
i love my buick lesabre! i havnt scene any 1999 models on vid yet tho. do u have any? its a 1999 buick lesabre limited edition
erikmcfarlane 3 years ago
ohh 2 star probably.
lolinternets1 3 years ago
IIHS Dont use star ratings
They use
Poor - marginal - Acceptable - Good
573W1E6R1FF1N 3 years ago 7
so it's probably between poor and marginal.
lolinternets1 3 years ago
No, it's not.
GMminivans9968 3 years ago
it's "good"
alexkvaskov 3 years ago
good to die, that's 30 mph, I wonder what will happen at 70?
sadbutbenji 3 years ago
That's 40mph, and the driver would survive this kind of crash
alexkvaskov 3 years ago
true, my bad, that's 40mph, but still what this test are looking for is no deformation of the inhabitated part of the vehicle, and it failed miserabily.
that is a death trap.
sadbutbenji 3 years ago
It got the highest rating, doofus
You would survive
alexkvaskov 3 years ago
no it didn't, you have 30% chance of injuring yourself or dieing at 40 mph, imagine when dirving in the highway at twice that speed..
good luck with that
sadbutbenji 3 years ago
Look here, dumbass, it got the highest IIHS rating, for 2000 that was REALLY good and not all vehicles get that now. My point is, that at city speeds, in those conditions you would survive with no major injuries
alexkvaskov 3 years ago
as you can see it did't recieve the highest ratings.
in fact if you go on safecarguide dotcom mak/buick/idx.htm you will see that you are wrong and I am right.
sadbutbenji 3 years ago
Go to IIHS . org and look up the ratings. Only the head didn't get the highest rating. ur such a dumbass
alexkvaskov 3 years ago
Are you blind, retard?
iihs (DOT) org/ratings/rating (DOT) aspx?id=127
alexkvaskov 3 years ago
ok, two things you should consider before going on an spitting shit out of your holes:
-iihs eats cocks for breakfast, the only relayable crash tests are the ones from the U.S. ncap.
-yes I have to be both blind and retarded to fuck that ugly fat ass bitch that is you mother
sadbutbenji 3 years ago
You idiot, don't you relialize that all the accidents on the roads are offset ones, not retarded tests imitating the vehicle hitting a wall smack dab head on. Oh, yeah, retards like you have accidents like that.
alexkvaskov 3 years ago
this last comment of yours shows the full lenght of your ignorance, in the us ncap, every single crash test recreats an offset scenario, 4 crashes are simulated and also it is considered the size and weight of the car.
sadbutbenji 3 years ago
NHTSA tests are when a vehicle is smashed full on into a wall. How retarded are you? Now fuck off, I have better things to do than talk to you.
alexkvaskov 3 years ago
again you are pitifully wrong.
how shamefull.
this link shows every testing made by all official crash test compaies.
safe car guide (dot) com
and than
/ exp / usncap / idx dot htm
sadbutbenji 3 years ago
You lose, sadbutbenji. He is right. IIHS is right, too, because most crashes are offset.
GMminivans9968 3 years ago
have you not been reading? where did I say that crashes are not offset in real life? have you been smoking salvia divinorum? and what's up with the personal message where you call me an idiot?
what I have been stating is that us ncap are way more reliable because more test are done and all of them in offset fashion, and the criteria to achieve full score is way more strict.
what would you rather have: a car seriously tested or one tested the sloppy way?
sadbutbenji 3 years ago
IIHS tests offset, you understand that, right?
GMminivans9968 3 years ago
thx mate, i totally needed you to tell me that.
sadbutbenji 3 years ago
You're welcome. Thanks for the compliment.
GMminivans9968 3 years ago
no problem, whenever you feel down just come to me.
sadbutbenji 3 years ago
I'd not.
GMminivans9968 3 years ago
ok, it just seemed like u don't have many friends and I felt bad 4 u
sadbutbenji 3 years ago
I have about 7,458,698 more than you do, so no thanks, I'll skip.
GMminivans9968 3 years ago
that sound very un-realistic to be quite honest
sadbutbenji 3 years ago
I'd think it's realistic enough.
GMminivans9968 3 years ago
you would? but do you actually? or you just would?
sadbutbenji 3 years ago
I would what?
GMminivans9968 3 years ago
think?
sadbutbenji 3 years ago
I will mail you.
GMminivans9968 3 years ago
@573W1E6R1FF1N lol why do they have 1 star 2 star 3 star 4 star and 5 star....but they can rate the other way? i dont get it..
kamaster1011 9 months ago
@kamaster1011 I think you mean EuroNcap... they use stars
BrunostNOR 8 months ago
@BrunostNOR ohhhh.......lol ok thanks lol
kamaster1011 8 months ago