Ireland's Hated Hero - Eamon DeValera Part 3

[velvet01able]

Dev probably had Collins hit. Adams probably had some of his cohorts offed too.

[brandy1tis1my1name]

De valera went to america and gathered up millions of pounds for ireland, these video's are so biased it's not even funny! a spy? thats rediculous, because de valera was an american citizen the british didn't kill him, cause that would bring the americans into it. and also john redmond had pleaded to the british to stop the killings!

[gmsm520]

@brandy1tis1my1name also they wanted the americans in ww1 also its bbc what do you expect, 

[deckywalsh1]

@Timeofflux and a wanker! and ran hot foot off home to America to be molly cuddled while true irishmen were treated like filth and tortured by the tans!

[SINKNINE]

He was hopeless, economy collapsed in the fifties.A gobshite.

[thefreewheelingirl]

fucking english narrator...dev WAS the president of the irish republic!!!!!

[TheSoulboy90]

@thefreewheelingirl

Not in 1918 he wasn't, which is the period covered here, when he escaped to the US! And the Narrator isn't English, he's Scots-Italian!!

[thefreewheelingirl]

@TheSoulboy90 ya fair enough but because dev was'nt executed in 1916, it made him the most important figure in ireland.

[ocean3da]

Taylor from Co Wicklow, Bray.

The Boxer, I think she's a lovely women. That is a first for a country that has been known traditionally to be very catholic today.

[ocean3da]

Womens rights

[ocean3da]

Some people live in Denial, because they can't accept history.

The civil war was pointless, dead Irish men for nothing. The Sinn Fein party should of taken the oath.

No other country did what the Irish did. It was a mistake to do that.

Ireland's history was dictated by people like Eamon and Sean O'Kelly.

And they're supporters.

Many people didn't want 1916 to happen at the time.

Home rule was to be granted by Prime minister Gladstone. It was thrown out by the house of lords.

[jimmy27paul]

I bet your from Dublin capital city of West Britain.

[ocean3da]

No.

I'm from London, England. I was born here. So I know how the English see things. And they aren't republicans.

And I also know a correct way of looking at some of Ireland's history.

People like Eamon can be looked in many ways. He even bought a house with some of the funds he raised from America.

I support an English republic, but it won't happen anytime soon.

[jimmy27paul]

OK your english but you said in one of your comments that the english educated "our ancestors" as if they were different people to where your from.And if they did educate the irish which they didnt,they did a bad job because were known as thick micks by some people even today.

[ocean3da]

No the Irish aren't thick. Ireland was more of farming country throughout it's history.

England was like that a thousand years ago. England was founded in 927, originally called Engla land. It was too invaded by the Normans.

King athlestan left what legacy for the English, not much of one.

[ocean3da]

He can be looked at as the hardline catholic man, or an irrational freedom militant who went about Irish independence in an unsuccessful way.

History is history.

What i do know is, that today irish people speak irish and English, one day they may speak Russia or chinese. No regional peace lasts forever.

People in ireland shouldn't be satisfied with a poor defence.

I certainly wouldn't.

[mickstakes]

Makes me so proud to be Irish , what a great history we have..All we ever wanted was our freedom , all the English wanted was greed and who won ..

[ocean3da]

But what can't be denied, is the English educated our ancestors.

[jahwob]

you idiothole go learn your history ireland aint known as island of scholars for nothing

[ocean3da]

Don't deny everything, its like saying the Africans or the Asians weren't change by the English or the British or the Welsh and the Scottish.

Scholars whatever, everywhere is change by "one people over another." the history of the world, every has its unique touch, including Ireland.

Wake up!!!

[jimmy27paul]

What are you talking about? education for catholics (the irish people) was outlawed for hundreds of years.We were not allowed to own land etc etc etc.Learn some history please.And on a final note before the Normans came.Monks from all over europe came to ireland to be educated in irish monasterys.We rechristinaised europe after the dark ages ......BOOK OF KELLS ring any bell?

[ocean3da]

What am I talking about?

You make it sound as if Ireland was so great. It wasn't.

The English brought and changed many things. The Irish had they're own way and studies. But many things today In Ireland are from England, there has been no attempt to change any of that. Only the irish language in Schools.

[jimmy27paul]

Ireland wasnt great? we never wanted to "great" in the british sense meaning have an empire.We had our own civilisation,the oldest law system in Europe the brehon law.We did things our own way and WERE developing our own way until the Normans came and that was that.Our development stopped there in the year 1169 and we fell behind as you would when your a slave state for 800 yrs.

[ocean3da]

I doubt its as rosy as you put it.

Where were womens in Ireland?

All lands are similar across the world.

There is nothing special. The irish came from Spain. Or weren known as the Gaelic people then.

De valera is a spanish name. I myself am half spanish. If I were living in spain it would be galera.

Richard Galera? I mean it sounds werid. I don't care if I type my name here. My surname is Connor with an O and an appostraphy.

[TheNorcalpatriot]

You are an idiot. Before the British came, Ireland was more educated, with many of the people able to speak not only the native language, but Greek and Latin as well, but the English put harsh repressive laws in place that destroyed that. Get that English bullshit out of your head, I think its effecting your brain

[ocean3da]

@TheNorcalpatriot

An idiot, an idiot would be someone who thinks Ireland was all great and that nothing was accomplished by England there.

[J1newyorkcity08]

alot was accomplished, they anglicised our place names, murdered our politicians, raped our people, destroyed our language, put our country back hundreds of years, we all now what the british accomplished, we are still living with the vicious british legacy

[ocean3da]

@J1newyorkcity08

And may be Russia in the future? It will be the same.

That is really the point in the end, Irish republic in 1949, what in 2049? Or 2149?

History shows nothing lasts forever. You can only try and make the most of our lives her and now, and try to preserve a future that moves closer each day.

[ocean3da]

@TheNorcalpatriot

Pride is something hard to to lower at times.

[ocean3da]

@TheNorcalpatriot

Like I said, history shows that empire is inevitable, and that takeovers are natural.