Do u defend your interraical relationship in white america w/ the same passion as with blacks?

[DA8653]

I noticed that BW defend and promote their IR relationships ONLY around Black people. It's like they intentionally seek out places where black people hang around to talk about their IR unions. They never go to any place that attracts nonblack people talking that mess. It's because they know that Black people will accept them regardless, unlike other races. It's annoying.

[usjs32]

what i think the mass majority of u fail to recongnize is that aside from this whole interracial popularity boom, deceitful blax trixz, & their whyt male accomplices have had centuries to come correct; what ya'll seem to be ailing from is a cognitive disconnect ...for we're living in the arduousness of their scoundrelles affair ...where do u think all the toil, & troil comes from? sillies!

[edupbeat]

we still live in a racist society & THAT'S what's getting bm so angry. Hell, inter racial mixing aint nothing new ( whether it was voluntary or not) wm have been fucking other races 4 thousands of years now LOl, but when it's the other way around (white) society has a problem.

[edupbeat]

Also, there's this pre-conceived notion that bm "chase" ww. Not true, it's the other way around 7 bw KNOW THAT SHIT! Here's the kicker though, (white) men can impose sex on ( black) on women, not the other way around, it's mother nature. Now, in this racist society we STILL live in, a bm imposing sex on a ww is still considered taboo/no,no! This is the ultimate dbl standard that gets bm so angry I think. In other word, a wm who dates outside his race gets props, a bm gets shitted on why? Cause

[edupbeat]

U women r full of shit! YOU ALL made dark skin/features unattractive! Case in point, if a bm dates a dark skin sister most times its SISTERS who hate on her claiming that "u can do better than that"! BW, i luv ya'll but ya;ll full of shit!

[abamieda2]

It should be evident to anyone with even half a brain that when embarking on a IRR paths will come cross with people that have insecurities and others that feel racially superior .These kind of people will even exist among friends and family members. It comes with the territory .If you are in a IRR learn to deal with the animosity and spare the sob stories. And for the BM who cannot seem to find a BW explore other options. The world is your oyster

[marcdaddy33]

. It comes with the territory .If you are in a IRR learn to deal with the animosity and spare the sob stories.

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A FLIPPING MEN

[etemuru]

Thank you for your objective & rational opinion. I've been going on emotion for the last 24 hours. I needed to read all of you guys' words just now. I will try to open my mind to discussing deeper issues and not caring or worrying so much about IRR. I felt so defensive about it, and wanted to get that other girl in check while at the same time defending myself. "I"M NO SELLOUT!" I want to shout that from the rooftops, but actions are what matter at the end of the day. I got work to do. We all do

[nosugarcoatn]

We don't have to deal with hatred from white people anymore than hatred from blacks. ITS THE SAME. If you are secure in your relationship then OUTSIDE factors don't get you all arguing crap with others who don't agree with our love. WHO CARES. BM think about race to much and blame to much on the WM. What we do when we see dirtly looks is KISS and HOLD hands and Touch on each others asses with More Passion..lol

[DarkOneSun09]

Many black women THRIVE off of the attention that black men give them, but many of them don't WANT a black man. I don't even acknowledge them anymore, for the most part, good or bad; because I know how many of them feel about black men. Many of them think that YOU are BENEATH THEM.

However, they still WANT your attention; which is why they seem to be EVERY DAMN where where they hear black men discussing stuff.

Later,

[DarkOneSun09]

And it's a mentality that has BESIEGED the minds of damn near ALL women of color. What's rare is to find one who DOES not think that way, and it's becoming rarer and rarer every day.

It's going to get to a point where black men are gong to stop acknowledging black women altogether because of that mentality. I have already stopped acknowledging black women where I live; because of how so many of them THINK.

cont'd.

[DarkOneSun09]

I also notice that many black women from West Africa have the same type of self-hatred that many black American women possess when they hit these shores. From my personal experience, many West African women won't date a black American man no matter how good he is. However, they will make that exception for that white guy.

It's not about dating a good man regardless of the race; it's about dating a damn good WHITE man.

cont'd.

[DarkOneSun09]

Personally, I think 99% of black women are SUSPECT. I don't think ANY of them are loyal like they claim. If they are living in a segregated area filled with racism, then sure they'd stick to black men--what other choice do they have? However, come to Cali, and see how these black women act OUT HERE. You will NEVER view them the same way again.

The only group of black women that I see who PRIMARILY stick to their own, seem to be Horners.

cont'd.

[MsVirgoSLC]

Who do black women need to be loyal to other than their family, friends, partners and themselves? Who do they need to be loyal to?

[pinkkelephant]

im talking about family and friends. do the blk wm who are with white men jointly work together to defend their relationship to the family and friends on the white side. all i hear are the stories the blk female sides of the family not approving but never for the white side

[MsVirgoSLC]

The male who I am seeing now is Italian and his family already has a lot of interracial marriages with biracial children.

[MsVirgoSLC]

Why does it matter how many stories you hear? I honestly feel that many need to stop hoping others will accept them and accept themselves. I have come across different problems when it came to the families of the men who I was with at the time. The more parents and family members nag, often the more the two want to stay together. I defend my relationships by not letting others effect it. If someone is rude to us in public, I not going to give them the benefit of knowing they bothered me.

[GogatsuGirl]

So true

[MsVirgoSLC]

The happier you look, the angrier they get.

[DarkOneSun09]

They simply don't WANT a black man. I guess what's shocking to alot of black men, are the SHEER numbers of black women who are showing their true colors who have that mentality. It's alot of them who think this way; African, and African-American.

It wouldn't make a difference how good that black man was. They will STILL find a reason not to date him in favor of a white man. The name for this phenomena is called white-worship.

cont'd.

[willia3r]

You're on a roll!!!

[DarkOneSun09]

However, with black women, they could have a good black man, and STILL be unhappy; giving him hell. I don't feel sorry for black women; I feel sorry for BLACK MEN. We are the only race of men going through that shit. The reason being is that many of them SIMPLY do NOT want a black man to begin with. Women who truly love black men, and the numbers are FEW, don't give them HELL, don't give them problems, and all of that shit.

cont'd.

[DarkOneSun09]

They will do everything they can to discourage attention from that man. However, when they are taken, all of a sudden, they can SEE all the good black men out there? It's total bullshit.

The good black men were always there, they just didn't WANT them. And another thing, I truly believe that there are more GOOD black men in the community than good black women. Most black men would be happy to get with a good black woman who's decent that would give him PEACE.

cont'd.

[willia3r]

So true. I see so many average brothas toiling about at the Computer labs, behind the bookstore cashregister counters, driving the UPS trucks by day & schooling at night, and NONE of the educated sistas are gassing them up, or at the very least giving them a good ego boosting compliment.

[DarkOneSun09]

Alot of them are also with these other men, because they have ulterior motives. They want pretty, good-haired kids, or they think being with a man of another race will boost their social status. It's not about trying to find a GOOD man regardless of the race. They don't even have the men of their race even on the radar.

If you don't believe me, watch how nasty a single black woman acts around any black man that could be a potential suitor.

cont'd.

[etemuru]

BM don't try to fit in Pink Elephant? Of all other races, BM are more likely to marry outside of their race. They are trying to fit in to the dominant desire to marry a Non-BW. We are simply not seen as desirable as Hispanic, Asian, or WW by the dominant class. Not to say that I think BM are horrible 4 believing the hype. But the statistics dn't lie in this case. They believe the lie and they're 'fitting in" - believe me. So now, what to do BW? Broaden your horizons. Date mixed and Jewish men:-)

[pinkkelephant]

personally i feel that alot of educated black women have desires the interracially date regardless of the fact that black men are not in their surroundings. so they create this idea that we are not choosing them to take any form of criticism off of what they truly want to do. its cool to not be that into black men. its said but i see it all the time. i've seen alot of middle and upper class black women not be into black men by default. but dont turn around and say we are not choosing them.

[DarkOneSun09]

This is nothing but the truth Pinkk. Alot of these, so-called, educated black women don't even have black men on their radar AT ALL. They don't care if the black men are there or not. They just want to date White men. I see the way that many black women FROWN up when they come across black men on college campus.

That's why I don't even bother to approach, or acknowledge black women anymore at school, or anywhere, for that matter.

cont'd.

[etemuru]

I have not written BM off despite the fact that I have been "oppressed" by them in the past. I was young then, and if I ever get into a situation where I find myself dating a brother again, I would be more prone to givve the guy in the computer tech library or whatever a chance. I'm not disillusioned by some false reality of an "upgrade" with the WM tht I'm w/. I don't have to explain my attraction or love for him, but I will tell you this: my heart lies with the one who shows he loves me most.

[etemuru]

YoungGrizzly82 said it best about you: YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT (AND EVERYBODY SMELLS YOU)! Sorry I had to call out your confused ass too.

[DarkOneSun09]

Basically, many black women are TRYING to write black men OFF; and they are using that numbers aren't there bullshit excuse as a means to do so. They know they aren't giving the men of their race a TRUE chance. So they come on videos like these, or go on messageboards and shit and try to talk to black men in an effort to assuage some of that GUILT they feel for never giving decent black men an opportunity.

Alot of black women are going after these other men for self-hating reasons.

con't

[willia3r]

Preach, brother DarkOne, PREACH!

[chocolatechipcokies]

haha, dude you're trippin.

many black men who date non-black women are self-hating too!

you're talking about self-hating black women when you BM were the ones who put us down and went with white women( i dont have anything against BM dating white women).

it seems like u BM ONLY talk about BW who date are self-ahting or whateve when u BM are the ones who date mostely interracial

[brebre1920]

to chocolate chip cookies- i agree!

[DarkOneSun09]

The problem I have with black women, is that they are TRASHING the fukk out of black men in an effort to carry out their self-hating agenda.

They won't STOP downing us. Many black women, flat out, are RACIST against their own race of man. They are extremely hard on regular black men--because they really don't want one, unless he is PERFECT--so they have these GARANIMAL standards for you that they don't HOLD for anyone else.

cont'd,

[chocolatechipcokies]

what about the BM who trash BW???

who tell us dark skin is ugly and blah, blah, blah....

[TheKoopstanicca]

Black American Men are the real jews

[bubblebum333]

lol, y do u say that?

[TheKoopstanicca]

ummmmm i dont know...CUZ ITS TRUE!!!!

[EandA23]

@etemuru Wow she said Jewish men you watch too mush girlfriends miss yony childs Jewish people damn there never marry black bitches

[DA8653]

@etemuru "Of all other races, BM are more likely to marry outside of their race."

That is NOT even partially true. WM marry IR more than any other man in America. Statistically speaking, BM marry outside their race the LEAST of all men in America.

[etemuru]

I cnt judge what you said Mr. Pinkk Elephant but I would like to share my perspective. The same BW who find themselves n relationships w/ WM who are shady & don't defend them around their associates, would find themselves in relationships with BM who are shady as well. Its the women, u r right. Bt its not due 2 the fact they r in IRR. Its due 2 the fact tht they dn't demand more respect 4 themselves, and they are using BM as the scapegoat. My man, no matter what the color, HAS to have my back.

[etemuru]

wth idk if my lst commetn posted or not, but my point was that if you don't let certain ppl into your life, then you don't have to deal with certain things. I dated a white guy whose family GRILLED me about what I did for a living, where I came from, & what my parents did, etc. I was like WHOA! I knew his past gfs & they were dingy white skeezers - were they subjected to the Inquisition. Hell No! They were accepted as pure and innocent. Not Me! He didn't have to defend me bc I stepped.

[demaification]

you sure is right about that i think is a double standards in black community specially dating outside race why is it ok for a black man dating outside race it more accept with white woman but where a black woman doin it a differences thing with white man i never understand why is that

[southsideroy]

are u serious? Its ALOT tougher for a BM to date ANY race of women that isnt black. BW get away with dating who they want and the media glorifies it (Something New, I Can Do Bad All By Myself, Angela Burt Murray promoting interracial dating for BW) If a movie was made about a BM finding a non-black women as his "savior" there would be an uproar.

[southsideroy]

Yea but those Will Smith movies are usually action movies where hes the hero and has no kind of sexual relationship with the white women, she just happens to be a supporting character/damsel in distress that he saves to make him look stronger. Those movies I named glorify the hell out of BW dating interracially. When BW get together and talk about how WM are better than BM no one calls them out on it, but if a BM is just dating a WW silently, not making a big deal he STILL gets villified for it

[etemuru]

I don't do that. I smile at the WW/BM and everything to let her and him know that I accept them. I think that we should not try to fit in with others, but it helps when we extend love. On your other point, Will Smith had an emotional attachment to Eva Mendes' (non-BW) character in Hitch and he wasn't portraying a hero like in Hancock. BW are practically INVISIBLE when it comes to being the love interest in a blockbuster movie. Vivica Fox was the gf in Independence Day & SHE WAS A STRIPPER.

[TheKoopstanicca]

Blame bw bein invisible love interest on the Media which is OWNED and RUNNED BY WHITE SO-CALLED JEWISH MEN..THE SAME MEN YOU LOVE SO MUCH..I dont know any brothers that own or run shit in the media besides Tyler perry an he a fuckin bisexual faggot..So that media bullshit is on the white man

[etemuru]

There are plenty movies that show BM/WW relationships "Guess Who's Coming To Dinner" for example. Waaaay back when it was seen in society as well - Walter White, Frederick Douglas, & Sammy Davis Jr, Quincy Jones, Tiger Woods & now Michael Jordon. Its been something that has become more of a norm whereas WM have kinda been discouraged from doing the same bc they are the breadwinners of their community AND black women have been denigrated in the media as less desirable than women of other races.

[southsideroy]

that movie came out in the Civil Rights Era, a time where there were virtually no mixed couples. It was a statement saying people are people no matter what race. It wasnt undermining women or men of any race, just showing that interracial relationships arent horrible and that not every BM at that time was a thug. The movies with BW/WM couples now COMPLETELY put down BM in the BW's search for her white savior, instead of just showing 2 people in a relationship who happen to be of different races

[marcdaddy33]

For me, choosing the guy Im with was purely because I care about him and we're compatible.

--

and I SALUTE you for that.... I always thought it was always for love with nearly all IR couples.... UNTIL I came to YT and saw all the BW with their videos and channels DEDICATED BW/WM relationships... and reading so many ANTI-BM comments from such women on these vids.

So I respect you for not thinking that way... and for not feeling the need to broadcast ur IRR on YT like some BW do.

[al00fone]

Yea.. I am not into public displays of affection regardless of who I date, so Im not the type to take time out to make a video about how much I love my boyfriend. Especially just because he's white.

There are a lot of black women on Youtube making IRR out to be the best thing in the world and black men to be evil.... but they aren't the majority. Its just a TREND on youtube, like hair, or musical parodies or bashing black women. One person does it and many follow suit. YT dont equal real life

[etemuru]

if YT don't equal real life, then why did you take such drastic measures to contact me and PROVE yourself...weak minded girl - GROW UP! Everyone doesn't have to agree on YT - it is like the real world in that regard. Enjoy your Sunday. I'm done being wired about your foolishness.

[etemuru]

NOT TRUE - Lakeview Terrace had Kerry Washington married to a white guy and the issue of race never came up until it was scripted to portray Sam Jackson's character as crazy. They were just a couple in love. I know Jungle Fever probably made BM look bad in a way, but mostly Hollywood does that to all blacks, not just BM.

[willia3r]

Also, people should note that white men are still the primary owners of the U.S.'s economic system. If a WM at a work place perceives a black man dating a white woman as a threat to him it won't take much effort to to derail the black man's economic opportunity, especially if other WM at work are on board.

On the flipside, there is no threat to white men who date or marry black women. WM will protect each other or at the very least not stand in each other's way for the most part.

[chasta1]

I really don't see to many white males defending IR relationships. I think a white male is least likey of all groups to date interracially. At the same time, my references are TV shows and youtube.

[marcdaddy33]

well, at least in absolute numbers, WM are the ones most in IR relationships (not just with BW, but women of all races)...

...I don't know how it calculates for WM as a percentage of the WM population though.

But with respect to population percentage, Asian Women date IR more than any other group.

[mpenny226]

I have experienced this when I dated the one non black man that I dated. I ain't taking ish from NOBODY. I was not the first black woman that he dated. He had an ex wife that was black and two beautiful girls. You are right that he should defend me (and he did). The comment you made about BM only taking so much before they will say anything...guess what it's black people who speak up PERIOD. We are used to speaking up for ourselves as we've had to do it for so long. BM and BW.

[abamieda2]

My problem with IR relationships is always the lobbying for acceptance.I think that Black families are always more accepting. That is why the BM/WW relationship is easier. Since the woman leaves for the husband house the acceptance of the family is crucial .I find it highly disturbing that some people think BW/WM relationship is an upgrade .WM does not always mean middle/upper class

[YoungGrizzly82]

Lol, BW won't comment on no other subject pinkk discusses BUT dating...

[marcdaddy33]

AINT THAT THE TRUTH

[willia3r]

Heh. I'm still waiting for a black woman vid on the reasons for the sub-prime mortgage crisis and the recession that followed. Glad I'm not holding my breath! :)

[k16jones]

YEAH! but we aren't see any of THAT, that takes too much analytical depth. Man they have black women in DC who are writers for newspapers, whole articles about IR dating. They even had on bw/wm couple on the front page of the washington post. Ads w/black women seeking white men. This has gotten way out of control and looks very embarassing. Go to AA topix board you'll see what I'm talking about!

[etemuru]

If your man is half-asian, nobody thinks that you "got their man" - your words are hostile in a way sista and I'm being nice - you have ppl up in arms on this page and its not just me saying that to you. I GOT THEIR MAN? Now who's making assumptions? In your case I think you THINK ppl treat you badly, but really its all in your head. Perhaps you are getting attention that you want to get bc YOU are the confrontational one...

[etemuru]

I did not realize that you would see the other messages I deleted - that's why I removed them. I didn't want any further chaos to ensue. But since you haaad to message me privately, I just went ahead and UNdeleted them - let the ppl on this page be the judge of who's crazy! Stop being so insecure concerning what ppl think of you and your mixed bf? Live your life. And please don't curse at me or send me private messages again. YOU"VE BEEN BLOCKED!

[YoungGrizzly82]

IR couples are generally much quicker to speak out against the Blacks who voice their disdain, yet when comes to the whites who voice the same, they clam up. Want proof? Look at the various comments on YT or just watch the media (Oprah, Tyra, etc).

[k16jones]

That's Right! just woman who commented above u. nothing but a bunch garbage. They are first to attack Black people, especially the mixed people. It's obvious they hate blacks, I find it funny they go to such a great extend to hide it. Every thing's how black people this and that, but we supposedly don't have any power to enforce our views. al00fone hates black people and so do the people who think like her.

[YoungGrizzly82]

Yeah I agree 100%, she's definitely full of shit.

[etemuru]

Anyhoo, I think its the fact that you live in TX. That probably has a great deal to do with it. People don't spit at other ppl in Chicago unless they want to get fucked up.

[etemuru]

wait - non black person = mixed? I guess we all are non - black people since many so-called blacks have Euro genetic markers and half their family tree consists of non-black persons as you call them (mixed)? So you're not really in an interracial relationship if you date someone who looks like Obama honey. I don't think so. Why would a white person spit on the ground when you're walking with an obviously BLACK person? Girl...you threw me off. sorry

[etemuru]

oops. I thought the subject was only BM/WM/WM/WW. Who mentioned asians? Who spits when they see you with an asian anyway? Yea. I've got shit twisted. Fail.

[etemuru]

I'm not up on all the references to "mixed" - yea that threw me off. Sorry

[etemuru]

People don't think asians are white. I don't care what you think. NOBODY on earth thinks that accept for self-hating "bananas" and the people encourage them (i.e. you)

[etemuru]

k16jones wrote about al00fone: "Every thing's how black people this and that, but we supposedly don't have any power to enforce our views. al00fone hates black people and so do the people who think like her."

SO TRUE! Poor missunderstood? Why does everyone think she's a self-hater? I think its bc she thinks people want her little asian man or will spit & grab her wrist to get at her lol. "hypothetically speaking" she claims. wtf! Keep it real. She hates black ppl for sure - you are SOO RIGHT!

[k16jones]

I know I'm right. See the threshold for anti-black sentiment is low, meaning if any black person does one negative thing no matter how minute, that person will hate black people, I've noticed this for a very long time.

Listen you black women on here, you don't come down and discuss any other issues beside dating and relationships that IR garbage. This is how I sense you hate black people. The only gripe about is whether black women are "liked" but a foreign man.

[artbunker]

Your right this should go both ways. To the guys and the women no matte rthe race. I would defend my woman to the end if anyone asked why I was with her. If my folks asked I would speak up for her and she does the smae for me .

Your video is speaking about long run implications as well. Your video is on point with more than one issue

[kimmaytube]

Good points! I think they're scared. lol. Culturally, there is a difference. I think blk folks are waaaay more confrontational.

I mean, if you come from my city (Chicago) the white folks are a little more aggressive and bold.  They might kick that a-- if you step at them incorrectly. lol.

[blkskin1]

what up kim...chitown forever. I noticed the whites becoming more racially frustrated in chicago and I have no respect for that. I've seen white-t blacks act like monkeys around them but the whites give regular black citizens a hard time..thats why my hate is as mutual as is my respect. if they want it they can get it.

[kimmaytube]

hey blkskin1,

I certainly don't miss the overt-racist atmosphere. In 10yrs since I left, despite Obama, I hear that not much has really changed. It is still one of the most segregated cities in America and for good reason.

I don't know if you're old enough to remember Harold Washington as mayor--but if you are, then u know just how aggressive some of them can be.

The poor Italian/Polish 3rd-4th generartion immigrant stock of whites got nothing to lose.

[blkskin1]

I was in highschool when Mayor Washington died. We have nothing else to loose either and I'm not looking for them to accept us and thats cool but they will respect me and mine sista

[kimmaytube]

Dang? High School? You just made me feel a little bit better. :-)

Oh, believe, I feel you----if you don't like me cause I'm black, it is all good--just stay out of my way and I'll certainly stay out of yours. I don't expect anything--not even respect. I command it by the way I carry myself..but will that stop them from calling you n**** in your presence? Certainly didn't when I lived in the suburbs of Chi.

Maybe that is why I chose to stay in MD-- black utopia. lol.

[Remedymp]

"there is a difference. I think blk folks are waaaay more confrontational. "

5 plus generations of facing racial adversity is where the confrontational attitude comes from.

[kimmaytube]

Hey Remedymp,

True. Now if only folks will consider this historical fact when the conversation revolves about black women and our "attitudes". uh hmmm. lol.

[GAkemetKiNg]

that is considered. but some BW take it too far, plain and simple. Like some BM take it too far, and its not because Im a BM that I would ever deny that some BM go way too hard, as do some BW, when there is simply no excuse. Some people misinterpret the word 'attitude', which itself has become interchangeable & generic at the same time over the years. Its become vague and means very little. But there is a difference between 'attitude' & straight up disrespect, which is what I feel people lament.

[etemuru]

actually - the whites will confront you in many ways - no jobs, horrible schools, no loans, gentrification. THEY CONFRONT BELIEVE ME!

[Remedymp]

Why did you address me with that comment?

[etemuru]

I was responding to how whites are not as aggressive, and won't confront those who talk badly about their black spouse. I think that THAT is a stereotype. Sorry if you weren't the one who stated that.

[etemuru]

White ppl have flat out stared HARD at me and my white bf and given no explanation other than I'm sitting there with a white guy, I can only assume that they are being racist - and body language is 90% of how we communicate so they are coming HARD for sure - its confrontational, rude, and disrespectful.

[etemuru]

SO TRUE!!! I'm in Forest Park & I think the blacks and whites are on the same level when it comes to assertiveness (or aggression) for sure - my white bf has lived in Chi for 9 years now - I'm from OH so I was like dayum he really acts like a bruh lol (not in a ghetto sense at all, but just knowing he's a man). He would never let ppl disrespect me