K516-1 Mozart String quintet in G minor movt 1

[auerstadt06]

Stereo recordings do not make great mono listening.

[beethovenlovedmozart]

Im sorry but this piece is amazing..You can hear so many ideas that Beethoven borrowed in his symphonies and everything else. 31 years old when he wrote this..Are you kidding me?

[chibiviolinist21]

ahh I love this! :) I'm playing it right now ^_^

[BQSurfer]

ahhhh so beautiful.....

[301250]

Hans Keller, the great musician and musicologist said of the string quartets/quintets of Mozart (and Haydn)''than which no greater music exists"! sd goh (malaysia)

[mozartdatabase]

I would agree, more or less. But I would add that Mozart's true genius is revealed not in the quartets, but in the quintets. When it comes to string quartets Haydn reigns supreme IMO.

[301250]

Agreed. My favourite quintet is the G minor and Grumiaux's and the Griller ensemble are superb.

[mozartdatabase]

I was a bit dissapointed with the Griller's G minor actually. I like their C major much better. I've cherished the Grumiaux recordings forever (it seems) and still think that their D major Quintet is unchallenged, but when it comes to K515 and 516 I now prefer the Talich. Regards

[bestabrivell1]

@mozartdatabase i adore this whole conversation, finally, some sophisticated music listeners have joined onto youtube

[win081]

The g minor is also my favorite. You have to hold ypur breath to listen to it.

From the LP to CD era, I have bought nearly all the recordings on the market; Heutling, Griller, Danois, Budapest, Danisches, Takacs, Tareai, Smetana, Talich, Amadeus, Tokyo, Melos, Alban Berg,... the ones I loved most are: Grumiaux and Heifetz-Piatigorsky. I probably should upload the Heifetz-Piatigorsky-Primrose version of K516 onto YouTube fro everyone to enjoy.

[bertubus]

Surely you cannot be serious!

Beethovens late quartets are incomparable, and before you reply make sure you look up the definition of incomparable.

Perhaps you have not yet heard them?

[beethovenlovedmozart]

@bertubus ..You are right..They are incomparable. But it's unfair..Beethoven wrote those 30 years later after he had another 30 years of studying Mozart and everyone else before him. I always tell Beethoven fans, that Mozart never had a chance to respond since he died before his time. We will never know..However, I given Mozart's output in his first 30 years (unlike mighty beethoven), I will put Money Mozart would have delivered something greater had he lived longer.

[bertubus]

@beethovenlovedmozart .Obviously you love Mozart, good for you. But please don't imply that Beethoven studied other composers to write his own compositions.

Beethoven was a unique individual with his own ideas and inspirations, never a cobblers patch artist. Have you read 'Thayers Life of Beethoven'? If you had you could never write about him in that way.

But what the heck, both Mozart and Beethoven were devotees of God, so embrace them both in their individual uniqueness and acknowledge both.

[beethovenlovedmozart]

@bertubus .."Please dont imply Beethoven studied other composers to write his own compositions".. Are you kidding me? lol. Of course he did! He is the biggest studier (and copier) of mozart in the history of music! I admire Beethoven because you can tell he studied Mozart A LOT. Why not? If you want to become the best, you study the best! Simple as that.

[beethovenlovedmozart]

@bertubus As the same argument can be said about Mozart fans and his "genius", Beethoven fans need to be brought down to earth as well.. He wasn't perfect and he wasn't a god. Beethoven had to work very hard just like the rest of us and Im just pointing out Beethoven had a wealth of music to study of Mozart's, but Mozart didnt have the opportunity to counter and do the same. When you consider the amount of masterpieces Mozart did from the time he was 21 til 35, that speaks volumes.

[karlakor]

Haydn was quoted as saying about Mozart, "People often flatter me about my talent, but he was far above me." As great as Haydn was, Mozart was superior in every respect. Mozart, Bach, and Beethoven stand at the summit of all music.

[auerstadt06]

@karlakor Is it necessary to denigrate Haydn to express your appreciation of Mozart?

[strad1736]

@mozartdatabase

I think you have a valid point.

[301250]

Hans Keller, the great musician and musicologist said of the string quartets/quintets of Mozart (and Haydn)''than which no greater music exists"! sd goh (malaysia)