FMS on LiveForSpeed (X-sim) with fixed response time

[osfponikhths]

αγωρασα το S2 προσφατα αν θες να παμε κανα κομπο.Οπως αυτο που εινε διπλα απο το uf1 σε gt μορφη στην city long(south city).

[NONAMEWTF]

OMG :D is this a flight simulator? looool

[osfponikhths]

@tronicgr

γεια να μην σε κουραζω ελληνας ειμε απλα μιλουσα αγγλικα στον μλκα τον invension αν πεζεις LFS πες μου πως λεγεσε.εγω λεγωμε dragon66 και ειμε demo χρηστης

[tronicgr]

@osfponikhths Χα!... Ναι, παιζω που και που αν υπαρχει χρονος. Εχω τον χρηστη "tronicgr" και ειμαι S2 licence εδω και χρονια... Παιζω συνηθως σε S2 πιστες... :-/

[osfponikhths]

@invension

you are a moron and you should go and drive an f1 car. he does that he likes not that YOU wan't the G forces of a f1 car are to big and a plain guy will die if he get's too fast with it TronicGr does that beacuse he LIKE it

[tronicgr]

@osfponikhths Dont spent your time with morons... You can't remove porn out of their minds no matter what you do. They don't care for science these days, and anything different than playstation is not game for them. FYI @invension I not only drive cars, I fly airplanes too... LOL

[invension]

lol these kind of ppl are the ones who buy fleshlight or a ruber woman.

want reality, go and drive a real car morons

[DJKickstarter]

@invension hater hater hater na na nana naa looool

[apoenacunha]

Buy a new monitor!!!!

[VenturaTravolta]

Advance sorry for my english. Аs I think, motion is too smooth. Did you special make so? Or motors that are used do not give you more dynamic? I saw simulators with two SCN5 actuators and I think they are more impressive in terms of the dynamics. But I like your design much more, because it more effective and economical. So can it be more dinamic or it need to install more powerfull motors?

[inivonwini]

OOOOOOOOOOOOO

[AJ999000]

AWESOME !

[nav2491i]

In my eyes, o me god!youre the coolest guy ever!

[handyhama]

Nice but screen could be bigger.

[240SSONLY]

epic machine, great f1 software.... 5 stars. simple yet very cool for ultimate simulating of racing

But if i may say so... rather than a car, those movements seem more of a space ship, or flying craft...

in order to do the real f1 car experience, reduce the rotation, and use a front to back rail, that compresses your feet to the pedals as you brake, and simple left to right, for the you jump curves. you guys did great with the design and the software, im not telling what to do, just my 2 cents

[TheGuyFromBulgaria]

how is it ?

[mraperish]

f1's do not have that much suspension travel.

[luckplat]

Is meant to be simulate the g-force, not the rolling of suspension

[Kirillov]

@mraperish it sopose to recreate the pressure that a driver is feeling when driving not the car

[VerseJer333]

stumbled from colorado

[unoakaso]

what if it crashes?..should go down..dangerously down

[feedyourmind93]

wat happens if he rolls the car? lol

[downtownlife]

Play trackmania on that thing... I bet it will shit bricks and launch you out of it. lol!

[icefoxrh0394]

Cool

[rja12]

I hope the thing is puke resistant because I would hurl all over it due to motion sickness

[ascarc90]

more suitable for flight stimulator. you dont move that much while driving man... but very nice idea.

[ixll]

The amount of movement in the rig is required in order to attain the proper feeling of acceleration and braking. It could actually probably be a bit more dramatic actually, very cool rig though.

[emuvente]

I don't think that it's simulating the movement, but rather the g-forces.

[chrsbrrss]

@emuvente yeah its the g-forces which while driving is the movements, it it did the movements everything would feel backwards

[StrikeFear13]

I think the tilting forward and back (while it looks unnecessary) is meant for simulation of the pulling/pushing g-force from accelerating and braking

[tanburn3000]

the idea is to let gravity replicate the forces that you experience when driving like that. you mind gets fooled in believing it.

[1unisol1]

well it is a formula 1 car,,,

[jaffadawg]

The movement is intended to simulate g forces. If your eyes are focused on the screen, your brain will interpret the motion, as the car speeding up, slowing down, and turning. Not the motion you are watching in the vid.

[timbro1]

its simulating the gforces when he turns.

[euandykes]

Good effort! I was planning on building a fixed sim rig but now I feel inspired to build one like this. Next stage would be to put some dynamic vibrators to simulate all the bumps. I think a rig with pneumatic actuators would solve some of the delay problem, it looks like it would have been a lot of fun in the making.

[arcadestories]

Hello Tronicgr !

there is a time delay, no, between what we see on the screen and the movements of the simulator? we do not see the vibration crossing speeds, is wanted because in reality a Formula 1 is much, much quicker, is this normal?

[RayRay282828]

I have one =] build one myself but i made it compatible to xbox 360 and ps3 hahahahaha playing need for speed never been better lol specially w/ surrond sound and a 1800i plasma hahahha seriously i do but the electric bill sux =[

[justinpember]

you hooked yours up to a console? how do you control the movement from that? you have a "1800i" plasma eyyy?? hahaha. AND you actually play need for speed..... wow.

[sarcomatose]

that's badass

[guillemsalse]

whatta fuck?

[delipmoc]

that monitor needs to be WAY bigger

[biggy887766]

lol now make one for flight sims that takes you upside down

[TONYTONYTONY121]

i want 1 how much?

[ChristophMikael]

do want! do want!

[kiminokami]

This is unfathomably cool.

[personjerry]

You built this?! Nice!

[Dontino]

I'm loving all the jealousy in the comments.

That thing's awesome, man. Go patent it or something so I can buy one.

[tronicgr]

Thanks Don, this jealousy is entertaining... :-)

No need for patent. I shared the DIY plans and instruction on my web page long time ago. Link is on my channel. The deal goes like this: You like it, donate ;-)

[vegastar26]

Virgin!

[tronicgr]

Hahaha! Yes, we all know you are virgin, vega...

[anonymous6366]

he needs a bigger monitor. come on if youre going to spend that much on one of those invest in a big monitor too

[gnrfan11]

dude! that is freakin' sweet! I want one!

[DanielDaniel1]

lets hope hes not using windows, i wonder what would happen if it blue screened

[tronicgr]

WindowsXp. No blue screens. Motion hardware has safety circuits to return to level position if disconnected from computer!! ;-)

[DanielDaniel1]

ah, smart designing then, so if you crash will you be lunged forward at some rate of speed?

[knightowlg]

He will never get laid

[OniJozh]

That's pretty much how it goes

[tronicgr]

You get yourself laid... I bet you never been inside in one of these things either!!! Hahahaha!!

[CPeyser08]

Haha, I was just thinking something along those lines, I was thinking: "No life, at all..."

[craniumkid22]

Awesome!!!!

Where can I get one!!!!

[Vabulous1]

YOU ARE MADE OF AWESOME!

[brushrop03]

Why are you tilting forward and back?

[doctaword]

Physics.

[boundinthe80s]

So that the effects of gravity feel like the G forces from accelerating or decelerating

That's just my guess.

[FrikkinLazer]

When you are accelerating, it tilts back, when you brake, it tilts forwards. If this happens fast enough, it should feel exactly the same. Although you cannot simulate more than 1G with this method, obiously.

[svantearrhenius1]

hohoho kapsimo :D

[blooxpert]

lol that looks sick, but 1 thing is, what if you crash? and you spin out of control? will you spin also lol

[tronicgr]

4:05 This is demonstrated here!!! As you can see nothing dramatic happened!!!! Just a few shaking around! LMAO !!

[daddiono]

After watching this, I obviously wasted my life in a dead end job lol....... AMAZING! 5 STARS!

[Simiil]

fuckin a. where do i get one?

[amast3rMind69]

lol its cool

[amast3rMind69]

nice paintjob

[tronicgr]

What paintjob? Mat gray is the natural color of the PVC pipes I used!!!! LOL

[pants7]

Do want.

[amilcpud]

want.

[engineered044]

Cool erector set

[13Knives1]

erection set? Didn't know you could play those kind of games on the simulator...

[nubman0]

why not a bigger screen?

[newyorkkid3]

i agree

[guitarherodude1]

check his other vids he does fly flight sims with this all the time

[roeKY]

nice but you need a bigger screen, stop being cheap nothing less than a 30inch dell will do. Also upgrade the steering wheel. And what do you tell the ladies when they see the command center?

[90punk09]

I'd love playing Burnout with this ;)

[planetyes]

How much time and cost has gone into that build?

It's an incredible piece of kit you have there!

[Burntoastfilms]

i want that. that is amazing

[nico220790]

awesome!

what happens when you flip over :D

[monkeyman522]

This is very cool. I could see it working well as a flight simulator too.

[PaintballGeek2]

Totally freaking awesome. A bigger screen and surround sound would make this perfect.

[im2good4aname]

HOLYSHIT!!!!

[hekk414]

THAT IS FUCKING SWEET

[gladia520]

Try making one using more metal and less PBC piping... I know Metal is alot harder to work with than PBC with it lasts longer and wont make all the creaking noise.

PS if you could make me one that would be totally awesome!

[sup3rvizor]

u need a bigger screen dude !!!

[punkrocksknot]

thatd make an aweomse arcade game.

[hskingr]

nice!

[DANNOBMX]

thats sickkk did u make it urself?

[davver12]

haha thats cool

id laugh if he flips over with his car lol

[Arfer1Bar1Genius]

how would you explain to a chick what it was ?

[tronicgr]

Why bring a chick to my secret laboratory? LOL!!

[Arfer1Bar1Genius]

right then

[steviered1]

pretty cool

[Stigzz86]

savage man

[NewJerseyTico]

5/5

[mellowmark1]

This is so cool. Very inventive. 5/5

[zipzap62]

how much

[ribfreak]

@moses 388

You don`t have gotten the idea what he wants: To simulate the G- forces on the driver´s body rather than just a little shake,rattle&roll!

A Formula 1 car can produce about 0.6-0.8G while accelerating and even more than 1 G while braking so I think he absolutly needs this much amplitude!

To have the screen attached to the moving frame is the ONLY way to "cheat" your brain and making it take the tilt forces for G-forces! If you fix it to the wall it will turn everything into Arcade!

[kingofmyworld324]

Am I imagining things or is the x axis flipped?

[666Mutlee]

too much movement.. i wud be sick

screen not big enough.. for wat it is

other than that its class .. good job.. want one for mario carts as long as it doesnt shake me out of my skin every time i get shelled

[Valposero]

how much for it?

[Makron5]

You might want to trim the feedback a little down. It seems overly dramatic.

[Moses388]

Yeah I supposed it's easier, im just said that while thinking about trying to simulate driving in a car.

[Moses388]

The only major thing i would say would be to keep the screen still, that makes it more realistic, the world doesn't tip with you.

[tronicgr]

Perhaps you should imagine yourself sitting in this motion cockpit... You would find more realistic then the screen moving along you! Just stay focused on the screen!

[SirDamned]

lol ? Until you crash that is...

[grtdthmetal]

this would also be sweet for a flying simulator

[mousen]

get that shit on the market

[SPuNKYbd]

what happens when you flip your car??!?!

[jaydogg014]

I bet the machine just implodes and ur thrown into next doors back yard :3 lol

[tronicgr]

Yeah, and if you got lucky, you don't bitten by neighbor's dog...

[jaydogg014]

Awesome :P i gotta get me one.... can i buy it for.... say 1cent??? :3 lol

[Derangedteddy]

NICE!

You win, sir... You win...

[Immortal63]

it's about the speed feeling. gravity presses you into the seat if the back lowers e.g. which is the same as when you go highspeed in a car...

[insanity54]

Bad ass!

[jaberwocky6669]

A steering wheel and hand on the screen along with your steering and your hand? Redundant much?

[jaicket]

I don't understand why you need this for a driving simulator.

My car doesn't move around like that when I drive :-/

There's no point having a simulator that just moves for the sake of it...

[OldTrees]

ah quit hatin, you know that you get a sensation of force that pulls you to one side when you make a sharp turn.

And plus if someone came up to you with this thing and said jump in you know you'd get in there in a heart beat. At least I would :D

[estemshorn]

duh, he's in a race car a dee dee dee!

[LegendSaber]

It serves the same basic function as DualShock or the Rumble Pak. It gives an exaggerated sense of the environment which helps to better immerse you in the video game world. Just because it isn't totally in line with reality doesn't mean it can't heighten the experience.

Besides, since when have games been about realism? A contraption like this makes it FEEL like you're actually there, and realism be damned, that's all that should matter.

[eximyes]

dude i wonder how many months or years it will take to make this fucking cool simulator.

[Bulletinjection]

yeah where is you helmet young man? haha and is this thing just chillin in your living room? Do people walk in and go waht the hell is that? "oh yeah, that is my daily driver right there."

[tronicgr]

Hahaha! No, I have a dedicated play room for this equpment. Not visible to visitors at all except they wish to! The play room has just this simulator and my computers in it!

[zisurs]

How much is this big and funny tool? any one has information?

[tronicgr]

Nah, its not tool. Its a miracle made by myself!

[niagararulez]

boat?

[bokaboi]

Really cool. Shame the screen is so small for something like that you'd want a minimum of 100cm or 2 or 3 smaller so you can get the whole wrap around thingy happening.

[RMO2012]

you would think that something that awesome would have a bigger screen

[DracoSilverscar]

Would be better if it could turn 360 on both axis. :D

[maxax6]

I WANT ONE

[Tompkins818Returns]

It looks cool and all but I just wouldn't trust the thing, what if something went wrong?

[roflroflomgomg]

try a car :p

[cyborgtroy]

What and die when u run into stuff idiot.

[roflroflomgomg]

try a car too :p

[MaFiiEz]

hey. did u try ramming the wall on the game? lol.

[rnmultimedia]

DUDE YOU NEED TO TRY A BATTLE MECH GAME ON THAt THING!!!! lol

[autograssboy]

the way that thing moves is a bit over the top the way it leans around the bend is like a moggy 1000 with brocken suspensition when he turns lol

[spifo]

looks like big fun :)

[f1tch]

Pretty cool dood.

[jo0osh]

how much? i want lol

[shakenbacon77]

As amazing as that is (grats first off.) I don't know if I would personally enjoy that. G forces are cool and all, but I think having only one screen would throw you off realism. I know your staring at your screen but the room around you is what is moving around you as well.

Anyways still is awesome cool and I bet it is a lot of fun.

[tronicgr]

On my latest videos I used a TrackIR4 Pro sensor to change the POV using my head!!! And you are right a bigger screen is needed in order to take your attention from the room that inserts wrong motion cues. I would fully enclosed it, if I haven't had limited room space problems LOL!

[awells527]

All that work and only one tiny screen! It needs at least one widescreen. Very cool otherwise.

[tronicgr]

HAHA, nice... If only my wife sees this message! LOL!!!

[Henry1993bc]

err. talk about over doing it...you must love your driving...

[205645240]

u are driving a plane instead of a car

[awells527]

Not really. You are staring at that screen the whole time so you wouldn't notice so much that you're tilting. When he slows down, it tilts down, pushing him forward towards the steering wheel...just like in real life. When he accelerates, it tilts back, pushing him back in his seat. Seems realistic to me.

[slavaggg]

I'm sure thats what it feels like in the car..

[Grodinz]

If you find a way to get more than 1g out of these, im in ^^

[tronicgr]

There are lot of people making these kind of motion simulators on their home themselfs. I'm one of them! ;-)

[Voudim]

how much did all the supplies cost? are you useing hardware tubeing and mental right? I somewhat get how its moveing. their's motors in the Tubeing side and side. So when you brake or accel. it ether gos backwards or forward. And the back and front are another 2 motors that make it go to side to side please tall me if i'm right.

[sunnymanpk]

Thanks bro. Last question :). I am doin Mechanical(Aerospace) Engineering student and i understand mechanics and i know not advance but basic control engineering as i am in 2nd year so i will more in my 3rd year of degree. What will be a good starting point for understanding the software bit that hasbeen used in your simulator????

[tronicgr]

Its all there in the x-sim forum, guides, software, faq... and you can always ask there for help... ;-)

[sunnymanpk]

Thanos Thnks for the reply but where is the description?

[tronicgr]

Look in the "More info..." next to the date the video was added...

[sunnymanpk]

Man its awesome i have seen other simulators but they use Hydrolics, And this one uses pullies and the seat frame is balanced on a Structure. Amazing. What software controls the motors attached to the pulley???

[tronicgr]

I use x-sim motion software. You can see a link to our forum in the description of this video. ;-)

Regards, Thanos

[Omagma0]

what is this a spaceship??

[jjgiajr]

dude that is awesome....mad props

[pragadomato]

its move soo much F1 dont do that...

[lucidlenny]

It's using gravity to simulate the centrifical force felt by the driver... think about it. what happens when a car stops suddenly, or speeds up? or turns sharply?

[klidpsol]

kala re file ti kinhmatikh akoloy8hses kai to abgales??Wraios!!

[daza2j96]

Dang, forgot to say something else about this...

How the HELL do you build something like that?!?!? AMAZING.  *amazed*

[tronicgr]

Thanks! I'm sure that even your 9yr son could build it and play with it!

Thanos

[daza2j96]

Yeah, well - I won't let him know that ;) Excellent job and Merry Christmas!!

[daza2j96]

Looks like fun! I don't think I could stand doing something like that though.. I get motion sickness easily!

My 9 yo son (a genious on video things) would LOVE something like that!!

Man You are a Genius.

Congratulation And keep the hard work

You are a Famus Guy in Latin countries about this Machine.

So Congratulation you have a lot of people chequin this amai