The only reason why One More Day happened is because of Ultimate Spider-Man and Marvel adventures Spider-Man due to the fact that those books were outselling Amazing, and those stupid idiots at Marvel decided that MJ and Peter should be split up so that Spider-Man can work best when he is single.
one more day had me reading spider man again and the civil war stuff before was the snow ball that got me into it. brand new day put that snowball to a grinding hault. now I just casuly peek in on it to see if they fixed anything yet but it's still fells like I'm reading marvel adventus or ultimite spider-man I need contiouty to justafy being a grown man reading comic book. because I always say the storys go back 30 years so I grow into them.
Actually they brought back Peter' and MJ's marriage in the daily Spider-Man comic strip, after there was a negative reaction to the marriage ending... Now readership is up....
Mainly when you wipe out many years of continuity it's trash, and deplorable. It's like all those grand Spider Man stories with huge events didn't mean crap since it's like History has been erased.
I agree Quesada has no "real" agenda...he likes Spider-Girl, which is VERY pro-marraige, Spider-Girl's outlasted all the other shitty attempts at "rebooting" continuity, so I consider it the definitive timeline.
Even if the writing is old-school, the character development and virisimilitude is HONEST and TRUE to the Spider-Man mythology.
Marvel are at a creative crossroads with Spidey. Unless something is done, Spidey won't mean a thing in twenty years.
And, no, MJ should never be made into a superhero, her main draw is that she is an ORDINARY WOMAN who copes extraordinarly well in a supehero world and knows everyone has problems and can easily overcome them...MJ's whole character is to NEVER give up on her loved ones, she ran from her family ONCE, but chose to stop running after she confronted Peter over knowing his identity.
thejimg: I appreciate your honest input and I understand that you meant well.....but the fact remains clear.....Quesada did this on purpose out of arrogance. From where I'm standing, the ends don't justify the means in this case.
I don't hate it,, but I think they dropped the ball with Jackpot not being Mary Jane though...
Don't you love the fact they did all to to all make Peter secret identity secret again, and only to have him reveal himself to the Avengers, and the Fantastic Four, lol...
Nope, but apparently Peter did something to cause the actual mind-wipe of his secret identity... Even though I swear that MJ still knows... The Avengers asked him to he move his mask, so they knew it was him, and not a Skrull...
interesting thoughts. I agree with you about the one Spidey book, and how brand new day needs to end. Peter needs to find out what happens. And I think he and MJ should get back together. Do not care what happens to Aunt May she has lived a long and fulfilling life. Also as you know Jackpot is not MJ. No big surprise Marvel was messing with us and her identity could have gone 2 ways: MJ or some random chick. I also did not mind the organic web shooters.
I just don't see how these stories are better without MJ being married to Peter.They would still be the same stories married to MJ. I would've liked them better if they were still maried because now I feel a sense of anguish, that might be too strong of a word though.If you wanted to bring new writers in to pump up sales, just do it without retconning everything so you can have Peter not be married. And since when is Spider-man selling his soul to the devil okay to do?
See that is what I thought... Mary Jane remembers everything... There really is no retcon going on, it is all a part of the story... The upcoming Amzing Spider-Man Annual will hopefully answer questions about Jackpot...
Dude. Harry is alive. No one remembers Peter is Spider-man. There was a retcon. And Mary Jane was in bed with another dude? Peter sold his soul to the devil.
Actually if you recall Peter reluctantly agreed after MJ made her own deal first and then talk Peter into it... As for why Harry is alive, only time will tell that story... By all rights nothing happened, with Bobby Carr then Paperdoll attacked them...
No, Peter manipulated MJ into making the deal with Mephisto, MJ had told Peter it was possible May didnt want to be saved, that she could be with Ben again (something MAY TOLD PETER IN PART TWO OF OMD), Peter however guilt-tripped her because it was his fault May had been shot.
Peter also said yes, he didnt have to, he knew MJ only wanted to make him happy...instead he sold out his best friend and anchor and disgraced his Uncle's memory. This is NOT what Spider-Man is about.
Actually Mephistopheles is a demon,Marvel is fairly ambiguous as to if there really is a Satan (Mephisto enjoys to make people believe he is Satan though). He is just one of many demons, and does not rule Hell. Think of him as being akin to a dictator here, not really any more powerful than others, just is able to manipulate and control those that are within his small domain.
Personally, one of the great things about Spider-Man was his marriage to Mary-Jane, she kinda represented what he fought for everyday in his life as a superhero. So basically just taking her character and showing her sleeping with superstars just really pisses me off. And another thing that ticks me off are the horrible new villains. Anti-Venom,Menace,Toxin are just a few names that really show how much these guys are trying to create a good Spider-Man story:Zero.
I agree with almost everything you say... I think we'll see Pete and MJ back together again... Well you didn't actually see MJ doing anything with that guy, but just be in same bed with him...In all fairness, Anti-Venom just showed-up, so let's not pass any judgements yet... If Menace is not Harry I will be shocked...
I agree. In my opinion, Carr is just one of MJ's freinds from Hollywood that she shacked up with just to clear her head over what to do with Peter, intending to go back to him (as a friend or a lover), Carr offered to pose as her boyfriend, but kept MJ's identity a secret to keep Peter from finding out and hurting him that way. As for "sleeping together", Carr could have offered to sleep on the couch, but MJ insisted he sleep with her just because he was kind enough to gesture that
Let's see. Jackpot. SCrewball or whatever name they gave them. Peter Parker could kill a person now and all he would do is just find some way out of it. What's the point?
Ok, so BND was shoved down everyone's throat like a bad rhubarb pie, but still I like the idea that MJ is (if it isn't I will be shocked) a super-hero... Like I said this has to come to a head, and with Peter learning what happened, because the way it looks MJ still remembers everything that happen durning OMD...
Same here. I've read enough Spider-Man to have seen it all and BND/OMD is not like anything I have ever seen in Spider-Man.
I like OMD and the whole Quesada has an agenda is fanboy'ish. Who cares, it's not like he is GW Bush with an agenda that costs thousands and thousands of Americans their lives.
Yes, MJ seems to know but there must also be a catch, that she cannot fully reveal it to him or else...
I also hope they do not rush it just to please the cryin fanboys.
Yeah, nobody knows what MJ said to Mephisto which is another thing most of the guys bitching don't even think about. Like alot of stuff in Spider-Man all they think about is the one clear thing.
Still I don't think Quesada is a moron and even if he has one way of thinking, it's obvious after fan outrage that he has to think another way to make it work and pretty much keep his job.
Come on. It was the worst thing ever happened. EVER.
Matriculon 11 months ago
yeah i really liked brand new; day the artwork is pretty good too
frixos1 1 year ago
Fuck you, fuck every pro-OMD/BND supporter on the 'net, and Fuck Joe "Mr Mid-life Crisis' Quesada.
SuperWolsey 2 years ago
The only reason why One More Day happened is because of Ultimate Spider-Man and Marvel adventures Spider-Man due to the fact that those books were outselling Amazing, and those stupid idiots at Marvel decided that MJ and Peter should be split up so that Spider-Man can work best when he is single.
468960486904 2 years ago 7
Stop supporting Mr. Joe "Asshole" Quesada, please.
EsaEsLaChica 2 years ago
one more day had me reading spider man again and the civil war stuff before was the snow ball that got me into it. brand new day put that snowball to a grinding hault. now I just casuly peek in on it to see if they fixed anything yet but it's still fells like I'm reading marvel adventus or ultimite spider-man I need contiouty to justafy being a grown man reading comic book. because I always say the storys go back 30 years so I grow into them.
hollywoodjokerpicalo 2 years ago
why are people complaning about the new spiderman story? They probably might bring spiderman and mary jane together again in the future.
JuunibiProductions 2 years ago
Actually they brought back Peter' and MJ's marriage in the daily Spider-Man comic strip, after there was a negative reaction to the marriage ending... Now readership is up....
thejimg 2 years ago
Mainly when you wipe out many years of continuity it's trash, and deplorable. It's like all those grand Spider Man stories with huge events didn't mean crap since it's like History has been erased.
Nightavenger2 2 years ago
@JuunibiProductions I point out the fact that this guy posted this TWO years ago,'nuff said
TheKjones91 1 month ago
I agree Quesada has no "real" agenda...he likes Spider-Girl, which is VERY pro-marraige, Spider-Girl's outlasted all the other shitty attempts at "rebooting" continuity, so I consider it the definitive timeline.
Even if the writing is old-school, the character development and virisimilitude is HONEST and TRUE to the Spider-Man mythology.
Marvel are at a creative crossroads with Spidey. Unless something is done, Spidey won't mean a thing in twenty years.
HeyArnoldsspleen 2 years ago
And, no, MJ should never be made into a superhero, her main draw is that she is an ORDINARY WOMAN who copes extraordinarly well in a supehero world and knows everyone has problems and can easily overcome them...MJ's whole character is to NEVER give up on her loved ones, she ran from her family ONCE, but chose to stop running after she confronted Peter over knowing his identity.
HeyArnoldsspleen 2 years ago 2
thejimg: I appreciate your honest input and I understand that you meant well.....but the fact remains clear.....Quesada did this on purpose out of arrogance. From where I'm standing, the ends don't justify the means in this case.
-R78
Rodimus78 2 years ago
i used to hate brand new day
but it made a new start for the writers so they can make more series and i prefer spidey without mj.....
skywalk333 2 years ago
I don't hate it,, but I think they dropped the ball with Jackpot not being Mary Jane though...
Don't you love the fact they did all to to all make Peter secret identity secret again, and only to have him reveal himself to the Avengers, and the Fantastic Four, lol...
thejimg 2 years ago
didn't they know already?
soldier4670 2 years ago
Nope, but apparently Peter did something to cause the actual mind-wipe of his secret identity... Even though I swear that MJ still knows... The Avengers asked him to he move his mask, so they knew it was him, and not a Skrull...
thejimg 2 years ago
don't skrulls have big ears?
soldier4670 2 years ago
Peter without MJ isnt Peter.
HeyArnoldsspleen 2 years ago 2
interesting thoughts. I agree with you about the one Spidey book, and how brand new day needs to end. Peter needs to find out what happens. And I think he and MJ should get back together. Do not care what happens to Aunt May she has lived a long and fulfilling life. Also as you know Jackpot is not MJ. No big surprise Marvel was messing with us and her identity could have gone 2 ways: MJ or some random chick. I also did not mind the organic web shooters.
Baec 3 years ago 2
I just don't see how these stories are better without MJ being married to Peter.They would still be the same stories married to MJ. I would've liked them better if they were still maried because now I feel a sense of anguish, that might be too strong of a word though.If you wanted to bring new writers in to pump up sales, just do it without retconning everything so you can have Peter not be married. And since when is Spider-man selling his soul to the devil okay to do?
SithHound 3 years ago 7
See that is what I thought... Mary Jane remembers everything... There really is no retcon going on, it is all a part of the story... The upcoming Amzing Spider-Man Annual will hopefully answer questions about Jackpot...
thejimg 3 years ago
Dude. Harry is alive. No one remembers Peter is Spider-man. There was a retcon. And Mary Jane was in bed with another dude? Peter sold his soul to the devil.
SithHound 3 years ago 2
Actually if you recall Peter reluctantly agreed after MJ made her own deal first and then talk Peter into it... As for why Harry is alive, only time will tell that story... By all rights nothing happened, with Bobby Carr then Paperdoll attacked them...
thejimg 3 years ago
No, Peter manipulated MJ into making the deal with Mephisto, MJ had told Peter it was possible May didnt want to be saved, that she could be with Ben again (something MAY TOLD PETER IN PART TWO OF OMD), Peter however guilt-tripped her because it was his fault May had been shot.
Peter also said yes, he didnt have to, he knew MJ only wanted to make him happy...instead he sold out his best friend and anchor and disgraced his Uncle's memory. This is NOT what Spider-Man is about.
HeyArnoldsspleen 2 years ago
Actually Mephistopheles is a demon,Marvel is fairly ambiguous as to if there really is a Satan (Mephisto enjoys to make people believe he is Satan though). He is just one of many demons, and does not rule Hell. Think of him as being akin to a dictator here, not really any more powerful than others, just is able to manipulate and control those that are within his small domain.
Bryc597 3 years ago
Personally, one of the great things about Spider-Man was his marriage to Mary-Jane, she kinda represented what he fought for everyday in his life as a superhero. So basically just taking her character and showing her sleeping with superstars just really pisses me off. And another thing that ticks me off are the horrible new villains. Anti-Venom,Menace,Toxin are just a few names that really show how much these guys are trying to create a good Spider-Man story:Zero.
rubberband4me 3 years ago 2
I agree with almost everything you say... I think we'll see Pete and MJ back together again... Well you didn't actually see MJ doing anything with that guy, but just be in same bed with him...In all fairness, Anti-Venom just showed-up, so let's not pass any judgements yet... If Menace is not Harry I will be shocked...
thejimg 3 years ago
I agree. In my opinion, Carr is just one of MJ's freinds from Hollywood that she shacked up with just to clear her head over what to do with Peter, intending to go back to him (as a friend or a lover), Carr offered to pose as her boyfriend, but kept MJ's identity a secret to keep Peter from finding out and hurting him that way. As for "sleeping together", Carr could have offered to sleep on the couch, but MJ insisted he sleep with her just because he was kind enough to gesture that
HeyArnoldsspleen 2 years ago
Brand New Day is the worst thing ever!
Let's see. Jackpot. SCrewball or whatever name they gave them. Peter Parker could kill a person now and all he would do is just find some way out of it. What's the point?
alexforever411 3 years ago 3
Ok, so BND was shoved down everyone's throat like a bad rhubarb pie, but still I like the idea that MJ is (if it isn't I will be shocked) a super-hero... Like I said this has to come to a head, and with Peter learning what happened, because the way it looks MJ still remembers everything that happen durning OMD...
thejimg 3 years ago
i love BND
thedeadboy 3 years ago
Same here. I've read enough Spider-Man to have seen it all and BND/OMD is not like anything I have ever seen in Spider-Man.
I like OMD and the whole Quesada has an agenda is fanboy'ish. Who cares, it's not like he is GW Bush with an agenda that costs thousands and thousands of Americans their lives.
Yes, MJ seems to know but there must also be a catch, that she cannot fully reveal it to him or else...
I also hope they do not rush it just to please the cryin fanboys.
Hexy69 3 years ago
bit more...
Yeah, nobody knows what MJ said to Mephisto which is another thing most of the guys bitching don't even think about. Like alot of stuff in Spider-Man all they think about is the one clear thing.
Still I don't think Quesada is a moron and even if he has one way of thinking, it's obvious after fan outrage that he has to think another way to make it work and pretty much keep his job.
Thanks for expressing yourself calmly.
Hexy69 3 years ago