UN security council fails to address Gaza - 23 Jan 08

[David51895]

Israel is right!

[AutobotJolt8673]

die israel

[retardstupidass]

Whatever. The only thing that happens anyway when they finally come together and agree on something is a semi-official "statement" is made. Oooh. UN is so fucking useless.

[mikebrown1648]

Israel is a life threatening cancer with no cure.

Its dangerous effects are far and widespread.

It kills innocent Palestinians and deprives the

Gazans of food and medicines.

shame on you Zioinsts

[rvbaful]

god bless israel...motherfuckin allah bless plestani...

[NAWAHA08]

Forced their respective government to either kicked out the 2 nation Israel and USA from UN or they must be left the UN and make a new organization by the name

NOJ (NATION OF JUSTICE) and take those entire nation those who belief in justice and not need of any veto power to anyone so that no one can play game like in UN. Its president must be change every year so that all the country could get a chance to server the world. Put the headquarter of NOJ in JAPAN peaceful peace lover country

[eddietru]

"At what point does the Nazi genocide of Europe's Jews cease to excuse the state of Israel from the demands of international law and of common humanity?"

[GoldenFireReviews]

It is fairly clear that now, a year later Israel continues to punish the Palestinian people collectively for the actions of Hamas. It is also clear that Israel will do whatever it can to occupy the Gaza and do severe damage on the peoples of Palestine. The problem is not political but humanitarian and only truth will bring this conflict to a resolution. Peace will come when truth is revealed. Lies cannot continue to deceive us.

[NAWAHA08]

The quick method of controlling the world`1 number one criminal terrorist state after world war 2 who do not care any one UN, NETO,OIC, AMENSTY, its own religion rabbi, protest of whole world peaceful and justice people, its own creator British and USA, to stop genocide of innocent Palestinian is only isolate and boycott by world people, freeze its account in all over world if this dirty Zionist today do not control could cause to be start 3WW which could be problem for whole world.

[heremeszus]

My insight in this atrocious Nazizioinists atrocious,genocides,and crimes against humanity,is to first illiminate the heads of Arab-traitors, Moubarak, and all Dogkings of shame.Then we will be able to face up to the reality of your own doings! With all means available to us!Ressources that have benefited this low life criminals, will dray out. Our men, women, and children will then be able to send you back to hell! Where you bellong. First are our traitors Arabdogs of shame, in their palaces.

[heremeszus]

This is an international Joke,played by the criminals,Elluminaties, who control the nerves of the consumers world, of idiotic corrupt ArabKings, and criminl-traitors, who support such atrocious genocides! Its time to shut of Arab's ressources,and doors on the west! Its time for a general Arab revolution! Its time to seatle this Nazizionists crimes againt humanity! All Arabs,are guilty for not standing up to their criminal-dictators, starting with the cow Moubarak.Its an economic war, so be it!

[SexyeIegant]

UN Security Council should be dissolved because they have nothing to do not apply

that they could, and the first day to vote

I still know no one important resolution by the United Nations could carry out the work

UN is the biggest Circus in the world, and nothing more

[DescryCodes]

The UN is NOT a circus! Its a organization put together so nations can SPY on other nations as they bring the biggest problems to the front.

[Rcoxx4u]

Why are only jews allowed to break laws while others are called "terrorists"

Israel is a TERRORIST!

[DescryCodes]

Well you see.. some cultures don't even listen to God. He gave the Israelites 10 commandments and they still went around killing all the other nations and kings and conquering land and cities against God's commandments. "THY SHALL NOT KILL" They say to hell with God, so what are we as people gonna do with them?

[abaiomy]

It is clear that the so called ( United Nations ) is nothing less or more than a place for PIMPS $ WHORES.

It is just a zionist office!

I call the people of the WORLD to pull out from that WHORE HOUSE of UN and leave it for USA, the temporary state of israel, England and France.

For the people of Palestine and all oppressed nations: Do not wait for anything good from the UN WHORE HOUSE.

The world could be better WITHOUT the UN!

[london7579]

America is, and has always been, so biased when it comes to the Palestinian Israeli conflict and I dont think the UN and its Security Council are able to annoy America and put pressure on its precious baby (Israel). Therefore, the best thing is to shut the UN down and use the money and efforts spent on it more wisely and leave the balance of power dictate the justice order in this world.

[BarbieCouture]

what a bunch of crap represents the SC!!

[rgiczey]

Yes we can see how peacfully Hamas and Fatah will share power.

[ijosdeputisima]

hope the zionist state disapear soon, the world will be much more peaceful& just place¡¡¡¡

injahalah¡¡¡¡

[IPKhalifa]

ONE Umar Empire coming soon =NO 'UN+israel'

[silwadiya14]

lool yup walls dont stop us Palestinians!

[herohumper]

I have lived in the Middle East and no other Arab country supports the Palestinians as much as Irsael (ironic) - I have seen and heard first hand what the other Arabs think of Palestinians. I feel for them but get over it...you are not the worst treated in

history but all others have managed to overcome and live in peace.

[waqasahmad1988]

If we had brains we would realize that Hamas when it was elected, was not launching rockets at israel until it applied the siege. instead of giving them a chance, they tried to FORCE Hamas to submit. Hamas has no control of militants launching rockets. Note that Hamas military wing is too busy in the strip itself to start battles with israel.

punishing Palestinians for democracy is WRONG, period. Israel is a radical Jewish Zionist state that thinks God "chose them" over everyone else.

[waqasahmad1988]

Israel has maintained control of movement in and out of the Gaza Strip, even after its troops withdrew in 2005. It had frequently imposed restrictions, and even closures, on the strip over the years. However, Israel imposed a severe siege after Hamas won the parliamentary elections in January, 2006 and tightened it further following the Hamas military take over of the strip in June, 2007. It consequently declared Gaza an "enemy entity".

[waqasahmad1988]

Hamas was DEMOCRATICALLY elected. Israel funded Hamas back when Fatah was in charge (Yasser Arafat) by the way. When Hamas refused to bow down to Israel after it was elected, the US an Israel applied sanctions. Didn't work. Hamas said, "Go back to 1967 borders and we will live in peace". Israel refused. Israel called Hamas an enemy and now it is trying to starve them to death and brake their will. It won't work either.

[waqasahmad1988]

Are you people retarded? Israel is an illegal occupying power. of course people are going to resist and fight back! If you call hamas terrorists, then your American forefathers are also terrorists. Also, HAMAS HAS TOLD ISRAEL THAT IT WILL RECOGNIZE IT AND WILL SIGN A PEACE TREATY IF ISRAEL goes backs to 1967 borders, but Israel refuses. Learn your history. Also, firecrackers from Hamas don't compare to rockets dropped from F-16s by Israel.

[NachumJew]

Hamas is not interested in a two state solution. Its goal is to retake Israel as its own. The conditions were laid a long time ago. Hamas could be included in political dialogs if it (1) recognizes Israel's right to exist; (2) renounces violence; and (3) agrees to abide by all prior agreements between the Israelis and Palestinians. Hamas says no, no and no.

[silwadiya14]

dont pull that stupid quartet conditions crap.

1. israel doesnt recognise palestinians.

"There was no such thing as Palestinians, they never existed." (Golda Meir Israeli Prime Minister June 15, 1969)

2. israel is the 1 w/ the tanks, 'rubber bullets', apache helicopters, cluster bombs, ect. that it gets daily 4 USA. there is an 8 to 1 ratio of killings palestinians. it is obvious who is more violent.

[silwadiya14]

3. israel has not abided by ANY of the agreements. if they had, the west bank, golan heights, & east jerusalem would not b occupied currently. israel would respect gaza's soverienty (not controlling its water, electricity, airspace, borders, or daily raids) & the palestinian refugees would have returned.

[silwadiya14]

u c nachum jew, these rules apply BOTH WAYS.

israel cant act like the victim when it is convient 4 it. never in history (untill today) has their been the maintainer of an oppressive, brutal, illegal occupation set conditions 2 talk about peace to the VICTIMS!

[doidle47]

No we are not "retarded", you are wrong. Hammas never said any such thing!

[silwadiya14]

actually, in numerous interviews with the leaders of hamas- Khaled Mishaal and Ismaiel Haniya BOTH stated that they would recognize israel, live side by side in peace w/ israelies IF israel gives back all the lands it occupies 4rm the 1967 war.

simple plain & clear

its israel who doesnt want peace. b/c if they did, they would have given back wht was never thiers in the 1st place!

[historicrecord]

I agree - Hamas created this crisis by firing barrages of rockets into Israeli cities after Israel evacuaed all their settlements.

[herohumper]

Start acting like humans and try to live in peace...Isreal has offered you land many time but you say no. You will never have a state at this rate...You are the only people in history to live like this!!!!

[Egyptshen178]

I agree with what you say. They do not think, they base everything on emotion. Israel is a country, whether we like or not. Now the occupation of Palestinian lands by Israel military, needs to be halted.

[herohumper]

The Isreal government does not condone the expansion of the settlements and even bulldove them and gave back to the "Palestinians". Also...

[Egyptshen178]

Not all of them though. The International community has condemned their action by not returning to the boundries set by the Geneva Convention in 2002; which is the same boundry set in 1967. While they did pull out of Gaza strip, they have not bulldozed the remaining wall in the West Bank.

[herohumper]

Stop firing your rockets at innocent people and Isreal will stop killing your militants and their human shield.

Hamas blocked the power!!!

Raw sewage...Isreal offered to repair their infrastructure, but Hamas said no.

[YNOTcreatemoneyart]

..THE U.N. needs to FIRE...RE-HIRE & RE-VAMP..there current plans.

[YNOTcreatemoneyart]

BUNCH OF DUMASS'S

[cohensteve15]

It is disgraceful that Hamas continues to fire its missles.

[DamNationDiplomat]

What of the israeli military? I'm a pacifist, and so believe violence is barbaric, but are we to believe that just because they are a legally recognised military israelis are any better than the barbarians who fire rockets in to Jeruselem? Look at some statistics. For every israeli killed, there are multitudes of Palestinians. How can they be expected to cease the cycle of violence when they have grown up in streets littered with craters and corpses, and stripped of their basic human rights?

[NachumJew]

The Palestinians would kill more Israelis if they could. The Israeli army reacts to but does not initiate the violence.

[waqasahmad1988]

no, israel commits massacres and refuses to apologize, and Palestinians take the law into their own hands.

[NachumJew]

Hamas, not Israel, targets civilians. Israel does NOT commit massacres. It goes after militants, who fight from population centers. Human shields get hurt and killed. How do YOU propose Israel deal with Hamas, which has the destruction of Israel as its goal?

[DamNationDiplomat]

Invite Hamas to attend a UN peace conference and negotiate a fair two-state solution in which Palestine is allowed to elect its leaders, honour internationally recognised treaties, lift the border lock-down, cease retaliation attacks and begin competant police action in their place, and, in general, treat the populace as human beings rather than assuming everyone to be an enemy.

[NachumJew]

That would be nice, but Hamas is not interested in a two state solution. Its goal is to retake Israel as its own. The conditions were laid a long time ago. Hamas could be included if it (1) recognizes Israel's right to exist; (2) renounces violence; and (3) agrees to abide by all prior agreements between the Israelis and Palestinians. Hamas says no, no and no.

[Inkan1969]

Yes, that's the smart thing to do.

[NachumJew]

Please direct to me to any report of a "massacre". I am only aware of civilians dying when Israel shoots at militants and there is, unfortunately, "collateral damage".

[cheenadaq]

UN is the most stupid department,

[DamNationDiplomat]

It's disgraceful that the US and israel continue to violate international law even under the pressure of nearly every credible voice in the world community.

[breaks0]

US should be stripped of its veto for this and all other sorts of reasons. There probably shouldnt be any veto at all.

[DamNationDiplomat]

Agreed. It's my humble opinion that the veto power, and the power to pardon or commute prison scentences are antiquities left over from the days of monarchy, and should be stripped for the betterment of humanity. For every just veto, pardon, or commutation, there are multitudes of those which bear no warrent, and serve no purpose other than to empower the powerful, and subvert the will of the people.

[NachumJew]

To strike at militants who shoot rockets into civilian populations is a violation of international law?

[waqasahmad1988]

no, but to incite the rocket launchings by maintaining an anti-democratic siege and then go back and bomb the hell out of the Palestinians is.

[DamNationDiplomat]

I'll grant that there are Palestinians with no regard for human rights or human life, but the occupation collectively punishes the many for the actions of the few by reducing city blocks to rubble with shells and airstrikes, disallowing vital supplies to enter the country, restricting access to basic utilities, and, in general, killing starving, and humiliating an entire race of people.

[NachumJew]

These are not action of a few. It is the POLICY OF THE GOVERNING AUTHORITY (Hamas) which was duly elected into power by the people.

I am not aware of Israel reducing city blocks to rubble. Please direct me to any recent report of them doing so.

The said elected governing authority (Hamas) fired rockets at Israel on a continuous basis after Israel withdrew from Gaza. In RESPONSE Israel tries to kill militants, and shut its borders.

[DamNationDiplomat]

The 2007 monthly average of Israelis killed in Israeli territory according to the UN's OCHA was one, in contrast, the monthly average of Israelis killed in occupied territory is 13. The same study finds 396 to be the average monthly Palestinian death toll in occupied territories (33 in israel). Are you suggesting that the majority of 25868, including 4008 children, killed an injured in the palestinian territories are terrorists?

[NachumJew]

The Palestinians would kill more Israelis if they could.

Where did you get the number 25,868? Is that the number of Palestinians killed by the Israeli army? If so, over what period?

It sucks that civilians die in war. But it's Israel's job to make sure that it's not its own citizens that are dying. A 2 state solution is impossible as long as Hamas exists, because Hamas is Israel's sworn enemy. What do YOU propose ISrael do?

[DamNationDiplomat]

25,868 approximate number of all the dead and wounded attributed to Israeli forces in Palestinian territory for 2007, it does not include those who ventured in to Israel, nor those killed in internal Fatah/Hamas conflict. Whether or not they would kill more Israelis 'if they got the chance' is neither here nor there, the ratio stands at 30 to 1. Whether Israel or Palestine, the only solution is to STOP the cycle of attack and retalliate, the blame game has been going in circles for forty years.

[Inkan1969]

There are as many anti-Israeli trolls on this board perpetuating the blame game as there are pro-Israeli trolls. Both sides have to be condemned.

[NachumJew]

It was YOU who started the "blame game" by blaming Israel.

I assumed that the significance of mentioning the 30:1 ratio is to show that the Palestinians are more moral or something. If that's not your point, what is?

Again: What should Israel do in response to Hamas attacks 24/7?

[DamNationDiplomat]

I didn't 'blame' Israel, i simply stated the truth: They violate international law, and this is NOT a disputable subeject. The Palestinians aren't 'more moral', that's not the issue. The issue is that they're starving, thirsting, and denied the absolute survival basics while Israelis live in vibrant and modern cities. If Israel insists on laying claim to their territory, let Israel treat them like citizens instead of like prisoners.

[NachumJew]

Compared to other countries dealing with insurgencies Israel has a pretty good human rights track record. 25 million people were killed in internal conflicts since WWII, of them about 8,000 in the Israel-Palestinian conflict. To the extent that Palestinians are suffering, it is a result of a weak Palestinian leadership which hasn't the will or power to make peace.

[DamNationDiplomat]

I'm of the opinion that Palestinians would be MUCH more agreeable if the borders to Egypt and Lebanon were unblocked, the Israeli troops fell back to the originally agreed borders of 67, and the right of any Palestinian refugee to return to their country was recognised: if there is room for EVERY Jew on the planet, there ought to be room for those who were living there in the first place.

[DamNationDiplomat]

It's not that Palestine is 'right' and Israel is 'wrong', it's that Israel holds all the cards: land, sovreignty, sophisticated weaponry, a firewall in the UN; the only thing the Palestinians have is a few ragtag militants with the misguided notion that someone might listen if they kill enough people, "A drowning man will grasp at a thread," - Unknown Palestinian Militant. Their demand is the demand of Moses: Let my people go.

[DamNationDiplomat]

And Moses drowned, slaughtered, and plagued legions of innocents in order to accomplish his ends. Again, i don't condone violence, but the legend of Israel itsself is one of the masses being liberated from toil, starvation, and brutality. Surely you can look outside yourself long enough to see that your brothers and sisters have suffered long enough.

[NachumJew]

I believe Israel would like to work something out vis a vis borders and Jerusalem, as long as they can have security, but no Palestinian has demonstrated the willingness or ability to provide that for Israel. Israel will never agree to have 3 million Arabs enter the 1967 borders and become citizens of Israel.

[DamNationDiplomat]

It seems to me like both sides are saying "They don't want peace, WE want peace," and continue to shoot one another. The reason i focus my ire on Israel is, as i said before, it holds ALL of the power, and, therefore, has dubbed itsself the ONLY passage to peace. Israelis may do as they please with or without the concent of Palestine, but the converse is not true. In terms of the right of return, it's unfair to invite every Jew on the planet and exclude the natives, PERIOD.

[NachumJew]

Really? Hamas said it wants peace? When was that?

A 2 state solution means a Palestinian state for Palestinians and a Jewish state for Jews.

[DamNationDiplomat]

Hamas is a reactionary group that has only become a political force because of the longevity and intensity of this conflict, and, just as there are lunatic zionists who want all Palestinians expelled, there are those within Hamas who wouldn't be satisfied if there's a single Israeli left to shoot at. Nonetheless, most people don't want perpetual war, and the militant wing of Hamas would shrink to a negligible minority very quickly.

[DamNationDiplomat]

In terms of the right of return, i've heard arguments from both sides, and i have yet to hear of a single Israeli negotiator who believes the right of return should be part of the treaty; in fact, i've heard the opposite, that Israel won't sign any agreement that includes the right of return for the 2+ million refugees.

[NachumJew]

The difference is that Israel is willing and able to, and always has, controlled its lunatic Zionist fringe. No Palestinian government has ever demonstrated a willingness to do so to the Hamas terrorists. The problem with Hamas is not only its military wing; the political wing was never willing to recognize Israel either.

[NachumJew]

Many Palestinian citizens support Hamas because Fatah is corrupt and weak. Therefore many if not most of these people would support Hamas even if there was an agreement giving Palestinians sovereignty. And therein lies the fundamental problem: The Palestinian government cannot or will not deliver security to Israelis.

[retardstupidass]

It's amazing how quick everyone is to feel sorry for those poor Gazans because of the actions taken by their own self-appointed terrorist government, and when we try to draw attention to that government know one wants to look bad and the innocent Gazans continue to suffer. Yet when the U.S. wants to help victims of a real genocide happening in Darfur nobody supports us because apparently our voice isn't "credible" enough. Right. The hypocrisy is ludicrous.

[sonofburma]

how could they do that.... shame on you Israel...

[thelittlegoldfish]

you forget the U.S.A and Israel there the religious right , there sorts like the NAZI's , and people who think that there god chosen , you know Insane , psychopaths ,