Could you use a small nail instead of a Thorn? Just curious. I wouldnt use this method unless I was down to my Survival Tin and out of fishing gear. But shoot if i get hungry enough Id probably give it a whirl.
Juniper tree/bush is something I would strongly recommend for making fishing hooks. Btw juniper berries are also edible, but is recommended as a spice for your fish or game.
Good presentation bub. Consider a needle-like wooden toggle shaped as a double ended needle with a notch in the middle. Baiting it is a bugger as you try to keep the needle aligned with your cordage, but once taken it moves at right angles to the line engorging the fish. The notch makes it easier to maintain. The wood softens in the water even if fire hardened, so haul out gently.
If I get a chance, I'm going to try and use this technique and see how it works, but I'm pretty sure that if the torn/spike is of a proper size in relation to the fish , this must work like a charm,
It's the simplest and easiest survival hook I've seen so far,
One improvement I can think of,is to use a longer torn, tight it at 2/3 from the tip, and secure it there, that way you should lessen the chance of the torn turning 180° and get loose in a bigger fish throat.
I made a pretty good hook out of a paper clip. Just curled up an eyehole for the cord and then down for the J then a small barb...sharpen it on a rock if you can. Heat it up in a fire a bit and quench it in water if you wanna harden it a little. Some coals left over from a fire are enough to do the trick.
How can prrimitave methods be illegal? Its how it was done for hundreds of thousands of years! Screw the man! If I eat what I trap and do not tresspass or cause loss ,or harm to anyone else I am free to do whatever I want. I am the sovereign spoken of in Yick Wo vs. Hopkins and the source of law, not subject to it. Sovereignty ftw.
@justaman6972 You raise some interesting points, but in answer to your question, "How can prrimitave methods be illegal?" I believe in many cases certain methods were made illegal, because they were considered too cruel. Some methods can cause excessive injury and suffering without necessarily killing the animal, or it may be too easy to kill the wrong species. In a society where food is readily available, the taking of animal life capriciously or viciously is a bit hard to stomach, imho.
Two things Paul, firstly it doesn't necessarily kill the fish. I saw Ray Mears set a few of those lines on a horizontal line staked out over the Thames river in London and he caught three flounders by leaving the baited lines over night. The next day he released the fish. They swam away, so clearly they weren't dead. However his hook was slightly different to yours...it was from a hazel tree, I think. Suffice it to say the thorn was smaller.
hey, ive been watching you videos, and their all reall cool! i enjoy being outdoors and bushcraft and such things like that, you videos are very helpfull its allways goot to know multiple ways to do each different thing, thanks -anthony
Thanks Dave! How was dirt time? Actually, I think that will be a long answer... I need to give you a call! If I get some time today I will give you a ring!
Nice technique. Your videos are great! Keep up the good work. Any plans on doing a video of making snare traps for small game or building a shelter from the rain?
Thanks! Yes, I will get to those topics eventually... I have a pretty long list right now but shelter and more traps are most definitely on there... thanks for commenting!
Well, I'm not entirely sure... but I think it may have something to do with people making the traps wrong and maiming rather than killing the animal... but that is just a guess I'm really not sure. Thanks for commenting!
You're not going to like what I have to say but I'm speaking from 34 years of actual experience. It's called a gorge hook and is best attached to the line at the center of the gorge with a mixture of pine resin, charcoal and dead grass. The way you attach it works fine for a small thorn with a short bit of the branch attached. It's called a Thames hook and was used in Great Britain to catch flounder. A gorge simple doesn't work well attached like a Thames hook. Experience proves it.
I can tell that you'll go far in this avocation/hobby/way of life. You have the right attitude for it. There are plenty of us and we all have a thing or two to teach and always something more to learn. I'm 58 and still learning. I really like your improved figure four trigger.
You could make the cordage from any number of wild plants, however for this video I used Jute twine which is a natural fiber that you can get at most hardware stores... good luck!
it's a honey locust thorn (Gleditsia triacanthos) Here in Spain it's a park or garden tree, got to give it a try to see if it works, thank you very much for the info.
Thanks for showing this, its so simple i dont know why i didnt thnk of it. Hey disclaimers and regulations are important these days and I recomend people do check them because the DNR is no joke. In a survival situation thats a differnt story, i'll take the ticket that means i was found,lol.
as for the regulations....bah! screw the government. they couldnt care less about human beings, much less fish. govt regulations in the wild! how outrageous!
Awsome technique Paul!!! I had doubts when I saw the thorn but it looks like it will work. I will certainly try this out! Can't wait, there is nothing better than fresh fish! thanks!
It definitely does work! (Shame on me... I haven't been out to actually do it yet)... but several people have written emails to me after watching the video and have successfully tested it themselves... also a few good friends of mine have had success with this.
i have fish like that, its works ok, the bigest problem is to get a normal size worm on the stick, we call that for fishing stick here in sweden, thanks for showing, 5/5
Glad you like it... and yes that is an interesting problem... I have heard that very thin thread-like cordage works well to help secure the bait... I can't wait to actually give this a shot!
Your tree thorn is from Honey locust, Gleditsia triacanthos. Thanks for the video.
OKRhys 6 months ago
i tyed it and got lots of fish
thebeast90004 7 months ago
Is this sharp enough to actually catch a fish with?
MruneTube 8 months ago
Could you use a small nail instead of a Thorn? Just curious. I wouldnt use this method unless I was down to my Survival Tin and out of fishing gear. But shoot if i get hungry enough Id probably give it a whirl.
MegaPokerMon 8 months ago
Juniper tree/bush is something I would strongly recommend for making fishing hooks. Btw juniper berries are also edible, but is recommended as a spice for your fish or game.
CountDeSade00 10 months ago
Good presentation bub. Consider a needle-like wooden toggle shaped as a double ended needle with a notch in the middle. Baiting it is a bugger as you try to keep the needle aligned with your cordage, but once taken it moves at right angles to the line engorging the fish. The notch makes it easier to maintain. The wood softens in the water even if fire hardened, so haul out gently.
aaronpetersutherland 11 months ago
anyone remember wich show/episode of ray mears he makes this thorn hook??
bbroegger 1 year ago
@bbroegger Alaska Solomon- Extreme Survival
stekiboy 1 year ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"when nemo comes"
hahahaha great one haha i rofled
awesome video
Shumaka84 1 year ago
TY alot for this tip.
If I get a chance, I'm going to try and use this technique and see how it works, but I'm pretty sure that if the torn/spike is of a proper size in relation to the fish , this must work like a charm,
It's the simplest and easiest survival hook I've seen so far,
One improvement I can think of,is to use a longer torn, tight it at 2/3 from the tip, and secure it there, that way you should lessen the chance of the torn turning 180° and get loose in a bigger fish throat.
TY again
AndreaGanora 1 year ago
Very Nice!
EDBO23 1 year ago
I really think this was a masive bunch of BS!!
Silkman44 1 year ago
Haha!! When Nemo comes to take the bait!
TrueComposure 1 year ago
Great vid, thanks for sharing your knowledge.
cheekyfumes 1 year ago
I made a pretty good hook out of a paper clip. Just curled up an eyehole for the cord and then down for the J then a small barb...sharpen it on a rock if you can. Heat it up in a fire a bit and quench it in water if you wanna harden it a little. Some coals left over from a fire are enough to do the trick.
Cstrife234 1 year ago
poor nemo.......lol!
moxncal 1 year ago
How can prrimitave methods be illegal? Its how it was done for hundreds of thousands of years! Screw the man! If I eat what I trap and do not tresspass or cause loss ,or harm to anyone else I am free to do whatever I want. I am the sovereign spoken of in Yick Wo vs. Hopkins and the source of law, not subject to it. Sovereignty ftw.
justaman6972 2 years ago 9
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@justaman6972 You raise some interesting points, but in answer to your question, "How can prrimitave methods be illegal?" I believe in many cases certain methods were made illegal, because they were considered too cruel. Some methods can cause excessive injury and suffering without necessarily killing the animal, or it may be too easy to kill the wrong species. In a society where food is readily available, the taking of animal life capriciously or viciously is a bit hard to stomach, imho.
LittleHairyApe 1 year ago
@justaman6972
hell yea, they can quit trying to tame us or make us dependant on their modern cheap made in china crap, fuck the man and fuck the world!
answerz2no1 10 months ago
Great stuff Pauly Love your work. Its really interesting.
vallonia2000 2 years ago
Two things Paul, firstly it doesn't necessarily kill the fish. I saw Ray Mears set a few of those lines on a horizontal line staked out over the Thames river in London and he caught three flounders by leaving the baited lines over night. The next day he released the fish. They swam away, so clearly they weren't dead. However his hook was slightly different to yours...it was from a hazel tree, I think. Suffice it to say the thorn was smaller.
wlwak 2 years ago
Awesome... thanks for the insight! I love Ray Mears!!!
HedgehogLeatherworks 2 years ago
Hawthorn tree. Hazel trees don't have thorns.
scarz1951 2 years ago
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wlwak 2 years ago
Did I say Hazel? My mistake.
wlwak 2 years ago
@wlwak the thorn of the honey locust is poisonous to many fish, however, a hazel tree's thorn only effect minnows and other small fish
f2pGTA 1 year ago
@wlwak Your going to eat the fish alive?
nofacesniper 1 year ago
hey, ive been watching you videos, and their all reall cool! i enjoy being outdoors and bushcraft and such things like that, you videos are very helpfull its allways goot to know multiple ways to do each different thing, thanks -anthony
m1garand77 2 years ago
Awesome! Glad to hear it and thanks for your support and encouragement!
HedgehogLeatherworks 2 years ago
Nice job Paul!
These hooks work well if properly made.. Great presentation Bro!
BushcraftOnFire 2 years ago
Thanks Dave! How was dirt time? Actually, I think that will be a long answer... I need to give you a call! If I get some time today I will give you a ring!
HedgehogLeatherworks 2 years ago
Nice technique. Your videos are great! Keep up the good work. Any plans on doing a video of making snare traps for small game or building a shelter from the rain?
jason0891 2 years ago
Thanks! Yes, I will get to those topics eventually... I have a pretty long list right now but shelter and more traps are most definitely on there... thanks for commenting!
HedgehogLeatherworks 2 years ago
3:29 you mention that primitive hunting/trapping/fishing methods are illegal in most areas... why is that? it's something i've always wondered about.
captaincoolness55 2 years ago
Well, I'm not entirely sure... but I think it may have something to do with people making the traps wrong and maiming rather than killing the animal... but that is just a guess I'm really not sure. Thanks for commenting!
HedgehogLeatherworks 2 years ago
You're not going to like what I have to say but I'm speaking from 34 years of actual experience. It's called a gorge hook and is best attached to the line at the center of the gorge with a mixture of pine resin, charcoal and dead grass. The way you attach it works fine for a small thorn with a short bit of the branch attached. It's called a Thames hook and was used in Great Britain to catch flounder. A gorge simple doesn't work well attached like a Thames hook. Experience proves it.
scarz1951 2 years ago
Cool man... I definitely have not seen it all and I am always learning from everyone... so thanks for contributing. Have a great weekend!
HedgehogLeatherworks 2 years ago
I can tell that you'll go far in this avocation/hobby/way of life. You have the right attitude for it. There are plenty of us and we all have a thing or two to teach and always something more to learn. I'm 58 and still learning. I really like your improved figure four trigger.
scarz1951 2 years ago
That is nice of you to say sir... thanks for commenting and please stick around... should have more videos coming in the future.
Kind regards,
Paul
HedgehogLeatherworks 2 years ago
It's just the truth, Paul. I'll definately keep an eye open for more vids from you.
scarz1951 2 years ago
thats cool. were do you get the cordage???
saggerdude52 2 years ago
You could make the cordage from any number of wild plants, however for this video I used Jute twine which is a natural fiber that you can get at most hardware stores... good luck!
HedgehogLeatherworks 2 years ago
it's a honey locust thorn (Gleditsia triacanthos) Here in Spain it's a park or garden tree, got to give it a try to see if it works, thank you very much for the info.
papuchu 2 years ago
Hey thanks for commenting... glad you enjoyed the video!
HedgehogLeatherworks 2 years ago
hey wat country are u in
bowmasterpigo13 2 years ago
The United States
HedgehogLeatherworks 2 years ago
Thanks for showing this, its so simple i dont know why i didnt thnk of it. Hey disclaimers and regulations are important these days and I recomend people do check them because the DNR is no joke. In a survival situation thats a differnt story, i'll take the ticket that means i was found,lol.
Brethrenunited 2 years ago
nice! thanks for the vid!
as for the regulations....bah! screw the government. they couldnt care less about human beings, much less fish. govt regulations in the wild! how outrageous!
i suppose it was just a disclaimer...
junior00bacon00chee 2 years ago
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it! I agree that it may not be regulated, but like you said, I wanted to throw in the disclaimer.. thanks for watching!
HedgehogLeatherworks 2 years ago
Awsome technique Paul!!! I had doubts when I saw the thorn but it looks like it will work. I will certainly try this out! Can't wait, there is nothing better than fresh fish! thanks!
chelpydog 3 years ago
It definitely does work! (Shame on me... I haven't been out to actually do it yet)... but several people have written emails to me after watching the video and have successfully tested it themselves... also a few good friends of mine have had success with this.
HedgehogLeatherworks 3 years ago
u should just show how
philip2133 3 years ago
Great video. Very detailed. I have heard of tying multiple raspberry or gooseberry thorns to create a sort of treble hook which works very well.
gands1102 3 years ago
Awesome... glad you liked it! Please let me know if you end up making the treble hook version!
HedgehogLeatherworks 3 years ago
Nice video and explanation of how the thorn work's.
73mensailedoff 3 years ago
Thanks! The full article is available on our website....
Kind regards,
Paul
HedgehogLeatherworks 3 years ago
i have fish like that, its works ok, the bigest problem is to get a normal size worm on the stick, we call that for fishing stick here in sweden, thanks for showing, 5/5
hobbexp 3 years ago
Glad you like it... and yes that is an interesting problem... I have heard that very thin thread-like cordage works well to help secure the bait... I can't wait to actually give this a shot!
HedgehogLeatherworks 3 years ago