Cholera, what is your own opinion on SC2? I am thinking, after having stopped playing starcraft many years ago, to restart Broodwar in a couple of months. Would this be counter productive with the release of SC2 with the competition looking for a new game?
JongMi is the best female Zerg player, she's gotta be nicknamed Kerrigan, she controls Zerg just like Kerrigan. SC fans, witness the real-life Kerrigan in Star League!
*Sigh* So fucking annoying. "Hot one on one girl action" "she is so hot" yadayadayada. Whoever did the comments in the video should man the fuck up and just make relevant comments to the game.
If nerds=people who watch SC, what does that make a person who watches this video... and then comments on it?
As for the hotness level: Kwhat? Props to you if your gf is hotter than Tossgirl or if your demeanor doesn't scare away one hotter than Cholera himself (who is in fact, all man and THE man), but I would beg to differ regardless. You should go trollerskating elsewhere.
Nick Plott calls people nerds all the time, yet he's a professional commentator living in Korea, and used to be one of the best foreigners in the world. Just depends how it's used... In the case of this prick, it would make him a... let's go with "hypocritical jackass."
P.S. Phrank, I miss your commentaries! Haven't seen one in ages.
Yea man I have a forum on SC2GG as to why I haven't been putting stuff up. I did a tournament for them and my comp pretty well exploded, not to mention the midterms. I'm going to start doing some duals with FB-EX and I'm actually downloading some games right now! =D
Franki, Tossgirl is by a wide margin the greatest female progamer of all time. Saying she sucks at Starcraft because she can't beat male pros is like claiming Michelle Akers sucks at soccer because she can't compete on the U.S. men's team. Only it's even more ridiculous than that. Tossgirl is incredibly dominant, and actually IS in the male proleague and can occasionally win against the male pros.
This really makes me wonder... are there really NO other girls in Korea better than the male competitors, or, do they just not care to play??? It's actually very interesting if you think about it... it's not like a sport that requires muscle or a large stature... why would the males be better? This might just prove the male and female brain are perhaps more different than we thought. ;)
siciliano, there are a number of mental activities in which men outperform women at the highest levels to the extreme. Progaming is one example (this being true of essentially all video games), as are chess and other board games (such as go). I'm fairly certain most researchers agree that the cause of this discrepancy is purely cultural, not physical. Differences between male and female brains in the relevant areas don't seem to be significant, at least as far as we can currently tell.
Cultural? Rubbish. It may contribute but do you really believe that human culture is so homogenous to ensure women from anywhere in the world cannot compete in these tasks?
There are physiological differences between men and women.
"There are physiological differences between men and women."
The most obvious statement on Youtube. My only claim was that the perceived difference in strategic thinking between human genders is cultural; don't blow that out of proportion. And human culture may not be homogeneous, but the dominant male is one of the biggest archetypes in history. Do you also claim that women are naturally inferior? Because paternalism seems to be a global trend.
What the hell is a "brain-related physiological difference?" Yes, obviously men and women have distinct, identifiable brain patterns (though not nearly to the extent most people imagine). My claim has nothing to do with this. All I am saying is that the difference in STRATEGIC THINKING is, as far as we currently know, cultural. Until somebody has something to say about that, I still think physiology is not behind male dominance in pro gaming.
SC isnt just strategic thinking, it is spatial awareness and dexterity and a bunch of other things.
'Inferior?'. I believe that men are better at these kind of games because they are made FOR mens skills and interests. There are a lot of things women do much better than men (like not being criminals!).
The burden of proof is on both of us, really. There have been claims from both sides with no citation, ill see what i can dig up if you really want me to.
Spacial awareness? This seems like a bit of a stretch, given it is not difficult to be "aware" of everything on your 19 inch screen. And yes, it is true that hand-eye coordination is of extreme importance, but 20th century developments in the musical world are breaking old gender roles there, too.
My point was that the fact that there is a global trend does not imply the difference is physiological; hence I used male dominance as a counterexample.
cultural differences that lead to such a disproportionate number of men in the pro scene are obvious. If nothing else, men play FAR more video games and more at a competitive level. It is also obvious that culture plays an enormous role in playing ability in Starcraft in other ways. You know who is equally unrepresented in the pro scene as women? Foreigners. You can't claim culture isn't playing a huge role here when nearly 100% of pro Starcraft players of all time have been from South Korea.
I'd like to put some pressure on that front door. Go for the choke. Maybe do a run-by, stay on top and keep rolling the advantage into the long game. Then I'd end it by dropping all over those command centers.
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You should learn how to not call women "girls." I heard your Commentator Idol friends make this mistake over and over again in reference to Hazel. Of course, her name is "Tossgirl," but you'll really look like a Mantoss if you learn how to not subconsciously demean women. Any woman over 18 is a woman; remember it.
the producers put this two girls to stir up lovings lol
MUGENKAZKI 1 month ago
Best commentary ever <<3
MultiFgsfds 2 months ago
Tossgirl would you toss my salad?
mo87ml79 3 months ago
the commentator, WTF stfu please
jeewoo12 11 months ago
I <3 ToSsGirl =))
dispatxiaXD 1 year ago
I watched like 4 minutes of this match before the commentator's constant dick fapping made me want to throw up.
This is why there aren't many female SC players, they get harrassed and checked out like a piece of meat.
kiddokta 1 year ago
@kiddokta i chuckle at you and all the comments on this video that even think a little bit that cholera is being serious :p
sibbie1023 1 year ago
@kiddokta i chuckle at you and all the comments on this video that even think a little bit that cholera is being serious :p
sibbie1023 1 year ago
2:00 Cholera is so aroused hes turning into a Cylon :o
BOnEhEAdD 1 year ago
idk about hot girl on girl action; i mean tossgirl is hot, but her opponent, not so much
meddlingmage23 1 year ago
"hot girl on girl action"
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1337n00b1995 1 year ago 2
Cholera, what is your own opinion on SC2? I am thinking, after having stopped playing starcraft many years ago, to restart Broodwar in a couple of months. Would this be counter productive with the release of SC2 with the competition looking for a new game?
p90xNick 1 year ago
Errr... distracting, rather.
ameryllw 2 years ago
Microphone is very distorted. Pretty distorted.
ameryllw 2 years ago
lmao...
this guy is sooooooo
funny.
danieltian 2 years ago 3
I'm a nerd and I'd rather watch mud wrestling.
L33tHackzor 2 years ago
"Probably talking about shoes, and m&m rushes."
How can you make me laugh everytime, cholera?! :D:D You are the best lol..
seksisempanze 2 years ago
oh my god...am i watching a game or listening the radio?the commentary is too loud
dashtopuma 2 years ago
LOL I love this commentator, he actually says what everyone is thinking.
888564342432 2 years ago 5
3:06 LMAO.
dude, this commentator rocks.
haha he should commentate all matches.
But ghoa, toss girl is pretty good.
I wish i had her build speed D:
Is this the commentators channel?
chibbi0tunk 2 years ago 4
i like zergz :P
bobugil 2 years ago
Jongmi's micro was fucking sloppy, she sent her lings in a line without regrouping..
Kino5journey 2 years ago
lol you people have to chill -_- it's just for comedy, dont' take it so seriously.. >_>
lilxleftee 2 years ago 2
Dude needs to put his dick away and commentate the match
khrabal 2 years ago 14
JongMi is the best female Zerg player, she's gotta be nicknamed Kerrigan, she controls Zerg just like Kerrigan. SC fans, witness the real-life Kerrigan in Star League!
FullmetalLakers824 2 years ago
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I always thought Klazart was the most annoying, sexist SC commenter. But you got the trophy now.
bwoark 2 years ago
what does he say thats sexist (not the truth about girl gamers)
Zonde32 2 years ago
haha, i can imagine cholera drooling all during this game
3HanSeL3 2 years ago 3
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cholera your really annoying actually..
stop commentating and get a job at eb games or something
yumms1234 2 years ago
u dont have to watch it u dumb fucking dick sucking fucking little dick globbing fuck
cwxzeng 2 years ago
watching girls play sc is cool, they even chat and have good time there while the boys are really serious and crush themselvs =D
bablutu 2 years ago 2
"Talking about shoes......or marine/medic rushes. Either one..."
lol, cholera is awesome hahaha...
TehTime 2 years ago 4
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omg the commentator can stfu. STFU. STFUUUU.
AngryAznGuy 2 years ago
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The commentator is a total jerk.
ChrisShaffer 2 years ago
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commentator is a super-ass
bambadamba 2 years ago 19
she could still kick my ass, so xD
VoidKeeper 2 years ago
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*Sigh* So fucking annoying. "Hot one on one girl action" "she is so hot" yadayadayada. Whoever did the comments in the video should man the fuck up and just make relevant comments to the game.
KamiKaZantA 2 years ago
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Momcilo97 2 years ago
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he didn't say those last 2 words haha!
CooLDsteR 2 years ago
Most of these gamer nerds would agree with me. LOL =D
DDErik 2 years ago
wtf shes hot with and without glasses
rebbeliousman 2 years ago 2
You made me laugh and made me want to hurt you at the same time, Cholera! That's quite a feat.
LadyJadeLioness 2 years ago
shoes and marine medic rushes.. omg lolol
pin3appel 2 years ago 2
lol medic rush
l00seg00tyh0les 2 years ago
listen attentionally: "...marine-medic rushes..."
XapD 2 years ago
lol 1:18 a male dominated world. LOL
dabestplayer 2 years ago
wat the?? TOSSgirl is playing terran...whats up with that??
LankyScoot 2 years ago
she always plays terran.
kirbyman1kanden7pf 2 years ago
she switched to terran.
Kawaiikisu 2 years ago
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Sorry Cholera I've listened to 70 seconds of commentary so far and I'm already disappointed with the commentary you are doing.
Lay of the fact shes a girl and focus on the fact they are playing Starcraft next time or just avoid commenting on these games at all.
Cowcow211 2 years ago
shut up dude stop tellin him wat to do
LankyScoot 2 years ago 6
4:18 -deep thoughts huh???
"I might be in trouble is I say, these two in a mudwresling." You said it anyway... lolz... :-)
carbine17 2 years ago
why is there a guy v girl debate. For Christ's sakes people just watch the game
Koreanfreak823 2 years ago
trossgril ist best
djmirza1 2 years ago
Never said I wasn't proving it too.
UnGato7 2 years ago
fuck tossgirl is hot, I'd stick my penis in her butthole
jaksplitter 2 years ago
...and you just proved that you'll never get that chance with anyone.
GG!
UnGato7 2 years ago 2
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XD says the fag who says "GG" at the end.
jaksplitter 2 years ago
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both chicks are fucking ugly. but then again i geuss u nerds have low standards cuz u cant get hot girls. or non asian girls hahahaha
KiwiDillan 2 years ago
You're a really hardcore player in RL eh?
If nerds=people who watch SC, what does that make a person who watches this video... and then comments on it?
As for the hotness level: Kwhat? Props to you if your gf is hotter than Tossgirl or if your demeanor doesn't scare away one hotter than Cholera himself (who is in fact, all man and THE man), but I would beg to differ regardless. You should go trollerskating elsewhere.
Phrentoes 2 years ago 2
Nick Plott calls people nerds all the time, yet he's a professional commentator living in Korea, and used to be one of the best foreigners in the world. Just depends how it's used... In the case of this prick, it would make him a... let's go with "hypocritical jackass."
P.S. Phrank, I miss your commentaries! Haven't seen one in ages.
Yolastresort 2 years ago
Yea man I have a forum on SC2GG as to why I haven't been putting stuff up. I did a tournament for them and my comp pretty well exploded, not to mention the midterms. I'm going to start doing some duals with FB-EX and I'm actually downloading some games right now! =D
Phrentoes 2 years ago
Bitchin', good to see you back Phrank.
Yolastresort 2 years ago
Jongmi doesn't look very good there, but she is actually decent looking outside this match.
What while neither of them are supermodel hotness, atleast Tossgirl is quite cute, and far from ugly.
though people who try and rag on others online like you have here is usually a sign of a jealous virgin.
Enjoy yout hand.
Draffut2003 2 years ago
lololollol poor little virgin with your warped racist mind
PaschenBack 2 years ago
Why is it with westerners having slept with a woman is a sign of masculinity? White people are so animalistic.
sonicmerlin 2 years ago 6
No need to stereotype
SeanithanEgan 2 years ago
gotta b the shitest game ive seen
BIGMANDING 2 years ago
dude tossgirl sucks...
cholera is just horny.
Frankii3 2 years ago
Franki, Tossgirl is by a wide margin the greatest female progamer of all time. Saying she sucks at Starcraft because she can't beat male pros is like claiming Michelle Akers sucks at soccer because she can't compete on the U.S. men's team. Only it's even more ridiculous than that. Tossgirl is incredibly dominant, and actually IS in the male proleague and can occasionally win against the male pros.
EebstertheGreat 2 years ago 4
"anticipated girl on girl match" xD
kirintar2 2 years ago 6
This really makes me wonder... are there really NO other girls in Korea better than the male competitors, or, do they just not care to play??? It's actually very interesting if you think about it... it's not like a sport that requires muscle or a large stature... why would the males be better? This might just prove the male and female brain are perhaps more different than we thought. ;)
siciliano29 2 years ago 2
tossgirl has beat other male competitors....just not in kespa sanctioned tounraments
starcraftiskool 2 years ago 2
siciliano, there are a number of mental activities in which men outperform women at the highest levels to the extreme. Progaming is one example (this being true of essentially all video games), as are chess and other board games (such as go). I'm fairly certain most researchers agree that the cause of this discrepancy is purely cultural, not physical. Differences between male and female brains in the relevant areas don't seem to be significant, at least as far as we can currently tell.
EebstertheGreat 2 years ago
Cultural? Rubbish. It may contribute but do you really believe that human culture is so homogenous to ensure women from anywhere in the world cannot compete in these tasks?
There are physiological differences between men and women.
Saktoth 2 years ago
"There are physiological differences between men and women."
The most obvious statement on Youtube. My only claim was that the perceived difference in strategic thinking between human genders is cultural; don't blow that out of proportion. And human culture may not be homogeneous, but the dominant male is one of the biggest archetypes in history. Do you also claim that women are naturally inferior? Because paternalism seems to be a global trend.
Regardless, the burden of proof is on you, here.
EebstertheGreat 2 years ago
Take a class on human intelligence and you'll soon discover how significant the brain-related physiological differences between men and women are.
sonicmerlin 2 years ago
What the hell is a "brain-related physiological difference?" Yes, obviously men and women have distinct, identifiable brain patterns (though not nearly to the extent most people imagine). My claim has nothing to do with this. All I am saying is that the difference in STRATEGIC THINKING is, as far as we currently know, cultural. Until somebody has something to say about that, I still think physiology is not behind male dominance in pro gaming.
EebstertheGreat 2 years ago
SC isnt just strategic thinking, it is spatial awareness and dexterity and a bunch of other things.
'Inferior?'. I believe that men are better at these kind of games because they are made FOR mens skills and interests. There are a lot of things women do much better than men (like not being criminals!).
The burden of proof is on both of us, really. There have been claims from both sides with no citation, ill see what i can dig up if you really want me to.
Saktoth 2 years ago
Spacial awareness? This seems like a bit of a stretch, given it is not difficult to be "aware" of everything on your 19 inch screen. And yes, it is true that hand-eye coordination is of extreme importance, but 20th century developments in the musical world are breaking old gender roles there, too.
My point was that the fact that there is a global trend does not imply the difference is physiological; hence I used male dominance as a counterexample.
And the burden of proof is on you because the
EebstertheGreat 2 years ago
cultural differences that lead to such a disproportionate number of men in the pro scene are obvious. If nothing else, men play FAR more video games and more at a competitive level. It is also obvious that culture plays an enormous role in playing ability in Starcraft in other ways. You know who is equally unrepresented in the pro scene as women? Foreigners. You can't claim culture isn't playing a huge role here when nearly 100% of pro Starcraft players of all time have been from South Korea.
EebstertheGreat 2 years ago
I dont think you understand what Spatial Awareness is, it is about understanding position and relations of objects in space.
Good point about musicians (high level SC is much like playing an instrument), its something i considered also.
The could say things are 'obvious' too, but that doesnt shift the burden of proof. Only presenting evidence does.
Good point about foreigners also, but we are talking more broadly about 'gaming' here, i think.
Saktoth 2 years ago
sorry Cholera. Here is the order of hotness...
KY Jelly Wrestling>Pudding wrestling> Mud wrestling>SC
daveatmizzou 2 years ago
LOL Cholera
ClikHappy 2 years ago
<3 jongmi!
rubivohs 2 years ago
I'd like to put some pressure on that front door. Go for the choke. Maybe do a run-by, stay on top and keep rolling the advantage into the long game. Then I'd end it by dropping all over those command centers.
docnightfall 2 years ago 4
Although I wouldn't mind unloading my Yamato gun on Jongmi's hatcheries, either...
docnightfall 2 years ago 3
LOL
11q11q 2 years ago
You have forever ruined the pure image of Starcraft I had in my mind.
sonicmerlin 2 years ago
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Although, the use of the phrase "girl on girl" is still sanctioned by me since it makes me smile. But stop calling them girls, you boy.
randombutler 2 years ago
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You should learn how to not call women "girls." I heard your Commentator Idol friends make this mistake over and over again in reference to Hazel. Of course, her name is "Tossgirl," but you'll really look like a Mantoss if you learn how to not subconsciously demean women. Any woman over 18 is a woman; remember it.
randombutler 2 years ago
hazel's a pretty girly girl though
pzhang87 2 years ago
Wow angry ball cutting feminists! Oh no.
PremusRed 2 years ago 3
My ears! Glad to see this casted :)
randombutler 2 years ago
HOT ASHUN GURLZZ >=D
njvyt 2 years ago
i came
just kidding :)
lazomaniac 2 years ago
nice
heyyou7000 2 years ago
Cholera has a.... very bad.... style of commentating when there is a female. Wonder if he has a girlfriend...
KhannKlan 2 years ago
i think its funny XD
RapedByTheLight 2 years ago 3
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He got a boyfriend, he's gay.
Kilithaza 2 years ago
Starcraft is the korean bar-mizva.Dont deny it.
xBadSniper 2 years ago
Tossgirl would be 3-13 if you count Gom games since she won 1 game and lost 2 games vs Effort in Season 1 when it wasn't Kespa sanctioned.
BlackMagister 2 years ago
One of the most "exciting" matches, and my sound won't work.
ChocolateMilk831 2 years ago
haha nice that really was a bad ass firebat
DnllnGproductions 2 years ago
Tossgirl is fucking hot... I think Tossgirl and Boxer would be a perfect matchup... :o Both have sharp faces.
Devourer09 2 years ago
*zomg GIRLS who plays STARCRAFT*
zeejustin6 2 years ago
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I thought Jongmi was a guy at first o_0
I'd tap tossgirl.
jackywushengzong 2 years ago
I'm guna kill you, rofl.
imassbbfan 2 years ago
id ram my bulls down her throat.
did that sound wrong?
xD
i meant my ultralisks down her main choke you knoow.
talic864 2 years ago
I didnt know that a bunker gave extra range.
But that zergling attack was so bad. No surround at all. She at least had to force tossgirl to get here scv back to the main.
Tossgirl is too good :)
Tillysouth 2 years ago
Cholera, please, do cast women mudwrestling games:)
T538 2 years ago
even with glasses tossgirl is hot
holyleaf 2 years ago
roflmao, toss girl is hotter with her glasses on u noob :P
Excluded20 2 years ago 3
Too much makeup!
DeepLyricist 2 years ago
*drool*
veritasen 2 years ago
lol "but she's still a very attractive girl" lol
u'r lucky the viewers here also commonly man
other wise a lot of feminist comments would appear
and u need to say girl on girl action more
i promise it will generate more views lol
great commentary
barbahaba 2 years ago
i'd do tossgurl
trigunxvash10 2 years ago
Didn't Tossgirl just dominate all the chicks and that's why the chicks league died? lol
Schlickk 2 years ago
Yep.
vanillacrem3 2 years ago
i did not know marines have more range inside a bunker.
MutaliskMaster 2 years ago 3
I lold hard at "Hotter then Girl's Mud Wresting"
Cloudgb 2 years ago
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She is hot, but her play sucks....
saint0link 2 years ago
her play doesnt suck, just not as good as the others
JaikleMackson 2 years ago
lol, she could prolly beat you pretty easily.
kpg51876 2 years ago
come on dude, she's alleged pro-gammer...it will be a great shame if she lose to a amateur like me
saint0link 2 years ago
wheres part twooo
Cavarre 2 years ago
WHERE ARE YOU CHOLERA????
Okay forget about the former question..where are part2????
Sorry for being so anxious, 'cus... that's how I feel now.
tangkeincharge 2 years ago
ahaha lol you cholera
joshuadayn 2 years ago
I believe the phrase for when a firebat toasts a pile of lings is "ketchup."
sporkify 2 years ago
Tossgirl really impresses me...OMG, she's THAT sexy!
Looking forward to part 2.
Thx a lot
tangkeincharge 2 years ago
WHY IS CHOLERA SO DAMN FUNNY
dhp1161 2 years ago 2
Tat was some sexy FireBat dancing there, I'm actaully very impressed.
EternaLEnVy 2 years ago
lol.. this is great
kyuukyuu 2 years ago
Yeah Cholera, Ineeded!
GIRL ON GIRL ACTION!
SCWarkos 2 years ago
Haha Cholera, I'm so glad your a TossGirl Fan, cause I am too a fan of hers and your the only one that will do commentary on her.
07minute 2 years ago
When Tossgirl vs. Jongmi came up on my subscriptions, I started to laugh.
You're silly, Cholera.
lolimontheinternet 2 years ago 2
Tossgirl is HOT!!!!!!!!!!
I still remember she beating NC_Yellow 2:0!!!!!!!
Johnpauljone 2 years ago
thanks for commentating this :D!
starcraftiskool 2 years ago
Very hot when she doesn't wear glasses? I love her intelligent, sexy look with her glasses.
imassbbfan 2 years ago 2
GIRL ON GIRL ACTION!
megadethqc 2 years ago
LOL I bet you tons of Korean boys are whacking off to this.
adeadlysniper 2 years ago
yeah, they love their apm
deviltai 2 years ago
maybe...
TipZfox 2 years ago
i prefer mud wrestling
7DarkTemplar7 2 years ago
I bet $50 on Vilda... kuz Vilda is badass, while Peanut is bouncy.
shoutenry 2 years ago
hahah "hot girl on girl action"
rayruiz12345 2 years ago 3
The other girl is gonna get owned so hard for tossgirl...the rapage will be so bad that it wont even be funny.
rl0u8888 2 years ago
lol shoes
debit256 2 years ago
tossgirl :D
xxURUHAxx 2 years ago
TOSSGIRL
nicmanity 2 years ago