People can be really pedantic about right and wrong. I started out doing "pure" clawhammer, then I learned a few other tricks, and now I use them all. And when I learn more, I'll use them too. Listen to what you like, emulate it, you'll develop your own style that you like.
I was thinking of picking up banjo and tips or tricks from going for Bass/6 string guitar to banjo. I tend to play a lot of blues, rockabilly and swing. Would it be difficult?
Simply fantastic, I was wondering what I should do with this song when I try to learn it, and I realized clawhammer is the way to go... That is I realized it after watching this video.
Hey sounds good and old-timey. Since this video is nearly 2 and a half years old...Just curious, did you decide to continue playing this style or did you decide on clawhammer?
Hey Shal0mnurh0me Yeah, I do both clawhammer and up-picking now. Sometimes I want a crisp melody note and when I want that I up pick. Sometimes I like the "breezy" sound of clawhammer, so I do that.
I'm certainly no banjo expert but my advice to you is to play however is most comfortable. The old-timers all had their own styles of instuments and playing. Some of those old banjos didn't even have frets and those guys just picked with their nails.
I'm no expert, but I play the up-pick "Seeger Style" and like it very much. Its a folk instrument so play it however you are comfortable. Nice job on this song!
Nice playing. You might want to refer to it as frailing though. Clawhammer playing is all downstrokes. It's equivalent to calling an arpeggio a scale. They are not the same. Biokinetically it is fastest to play with all down strokes because you want to reset your index and middle finger while you're hitting the 5th string with your thumb. Like gently swinging a hammer and slightly grasping and relaxing your grip each time.
Frailing, where I'm from (different people draw the line between clawhammer and frailing in different places, and to some it's all the same) frailing doesn't use a lot of drop thumb. People who play frailing banjo would consider Grandpa Jones a frailing style. Double thumbing and the regular rhythm. But frailing and clawhammer are basically the same thing. Look up Mike Webb Cripple Creek, I consider that frailing.
Clawhammer is a reference to they style in which the banjo is played. With the hand curled up and a down "hitting" style motion, they jsut call it clawhammer. It is the same as frailing or drop thumb, for the most part.
I completely agree with the others who have said that there is nothing wrong with the up picking, in fact that's pretty much seeger style playing. And in case you hadn't noticed, Pete Seeger was/is pretty influential on banjo playing.
Oh! I don't think I'm nearly that good! But thank you very much for the sentimment. Of course it's nearly a year now I have been playing, but still, Donald Zepp and Pat Costello are the ones to learn from.
When I started 'Frailing' (what I thought was frailing!) based on records, I used an up/down 'Scratch'of the fingers.
Now I mostly use the straight downward "hammer" of the "claw" (hence "clawhammer", but you probably figured that out, heheh) 'cos that's definitely how Patrick Costello operates and it means I can follow him more smoothly.
But you can get some cool effects wit the 'Wrong' way, and you've got it real smooth: keep that technique in reserve-sounds good. Take care of yer nails tho!
It sounds good. Wonderfully smooth rhythm. I started off learning from Pete Seeger's old banjo book, it's a great book. You'll eventually want to learn frailing I'll bet, it has such a great feel to it too, it's really essential for some songs. The more styles of playing, the more variety and versatility. Keep it up.
The first day I was up-picking, just cause I really didn't understand what I was doing, but then decided to force myself to learn how to do it down-picking.
Thank you! Yes I've seen Pete and also Dr Ralph Stanley also did something like this, so I have since felt much more comfortable with this style, having seen them use it so very well.
Very Good. Different technique, but whatever works for you is okay. There are no rules to playing music. If you down pick you may be able to play faster and get more of that bum-di-tee sound.
Your sort of halfway between clawhammer and Scruggs style -- Scrugghammer :)
Keep it up. I can't wait to get my video camera so I can start posting vids. This is such a great avenue for everyone to learn different styles.
Nothing wrong with up picking, however it is a different style and produces a slightly differnt sound than down picking would. You can play the same tabs as with frailing, but this realy isn't frailing or clawhammer.
People can be really pedantic about right and wrong. I started out doing "pure" clawhammer, then I learned a few other tricks, and now I use them all. And when I learn more, I'll use them too. Listen to what you like, emulate it, you'll develop your own style that you like.
sazji 1 month ago
Do I notice Downunder players use a lot of claw and a little bit of hammer? Great stuff mate!
jonwints 1 month ago
where can i find this version of the song?
TonyWLarsen 1 month ago
Nicely done!
sidDkid87 2 months ago
LONG LIVE GOOD OLE EARNEST SCRUGGS !
JOHNNYFREEDOMdaREBEL 3 months ago
That was beautiful.
topsy420 4 months ago
Steve
could you do another video or send me the tab of your left hand.
I really like your version and would love to be able to replicate it.
I cannot find a tab in G.
thanks
Lazairus 4 months ago
do you have tabs? I love this song. and I am trying my hardest to learn banjo D:
Annarulz227 4 months ago
I was thinking of picking up banjo and tips or tricks from going for Bass/6 string guitar to banjo. I tend to play a lot of blues, rockabilly and swing. Would it be difficult?
Enterthedeath 8 months ago
Hi Steve I like your style of Ill Fly Away , I was wondering if you could play the complete song please .
GDayTrueBlueAussie 8 months ago
What kind of banjo is that?
italianfatty 10 months ago
This is sick!
MickRdrummer 1 year ago
that's a real folky technique you there. Picking and clawhammer mixed... it's kinda reminiscent of carter style guitar.
xSNOWYJOEx 1 year ago
Simply fantastic, I was wondering what I should do with this song when I try to learn it, and I realized clawhammer is the way to go... That is I realized it after watching this video.
Bassium08 1 year ago
sounds good but not really clawhammer . I think the plucking up will throw you off eventually when you have to switch.
99butcher99 1 year ago
My favorite gospel song played in my favorite style of banjo picking. Nice video. Thanks and God bless.
scott27288 1 year ago
wow, really nice tune.. I would really like to learn it too! could you link somekinda material or something? Thanks!!
S3Z4M 1 year ago
Hey sounds good and old-timey. Since this video is nearly 2 and a half years old...Just curious, did you decide to continue playing this style or did you decide on clawhammer?
shal0mnurh0me 2 years ago
Hey Shal0mnurh0me Yeah, I do both clawhammer and up-picking now. Sometimes I want a crisp melody note and when I want that I up pick. Sometimes I like the "breezy" sound of clawhammer, so I do that.
AussieSteveBoyle 2 years ago
i up-pick like that too but i played bass before i played banjo so its prolly just habit from slapping and popping
thebeargod23 2 years ago
not clawhammer but very nice! got the old timey sound
jtallen12345 2 years ago
Up picking is fine and lots of old timers played that way. But up picking is not clawhammer. Clawhammer is all down picking. sounds great
switzforge 2 years ago
I'm certainly no banjo expert but my advice to you is to play however is most comfortable. The old-timers all had their own styles of instuments and playing. Some of those old banjos didn't even have frets and those guys just picked with their nails.
I think your playing sounds great!
CanadiaNecro1 2 years ago
the up pick works well for you, nicely played!
ben31187 2 years ago
Steve I really like your take on this song Could you steer me to the lesson from Patrick Costello and/or DOD on this song. I can't find it.
Thanks,
Scott from Canada.
blutck9 2 years ago
what kind of banjo is that? looks like my harley benton hbj-25
nerohj 2 years ago
Hey there, really like the up picking mixed in with the clawhammer, for 8 weeks your doing a great job!
DaveyRhodes 2 years ago
much obliged, but that was me over a year ago.
AussieSteveBoyle 2 years ago
Washburn Banjo?
yankee178 2 years ago
Oakridge
AussieSteveBoyle 2 years ago
The difference between clawhammer and Scruggs style is, Scruggs banjos burn longer.
LOL I love my old clawhammer banjo.
geraldineski 2 years ago
I'm no expert, but I play the up-pick "Seeger Style" and like it very much. Its a folk instrument so play it however you are comfortable. Nice job on this song!
ford2n2003 3 years ago
Nice playing. You might want to refer to it as frailing though. Clawhammer playing is all downstrokes. It's equivalent to calling an arpeggio a scale. They are not the same. Biokinetically it is fastest to play with all down strokes because you want to reset your index and middle finger while you're hitting the 5th string with your thumb. Like gently swinging a hammer and slightly grasping and relaxing your grip each time.
harleybenedict 3 years ago
Clawhammer is frailing. No difference.
willyd5115 2 years ago
Clawhammer IS frailing.
willyd5115 2 years ago
I thought frailing was just a more developed clawhammer technique...
MorkaGraven 2 years ago
Frailing, where I'm from (different people draw the line between clawhammer and frailing in different places, and to some it's all the same) frailing doesn't use a lot of drop thumb. People who play frailing banjo would consider Grandpa Jones a frailing style. Double thumbing and the regular rhythm. But frailing and clawhammer are basically the same thing. Look up Mike Webb Cripple Creek, I consider that frailing.
FancyGapClawhammer 2 years ago
Very nice sound - but what is "Claw Hammer Banjo"
- I do know what a claw hammer is !
sparkfishes 3 years ago
Clawhammer is a reference to they style in which the banjo is played. With the hand curled up and a down "hitting" style motion, they jsut call it clawhammer. It is the same as frailing or drop thumb, for the most part.
Rcksaltnnails 3 years ago
I completely agree with the others who have said that there is nothing wrong with the up picking, in fact that's pretty much seeger style playing. And in case you hadn't noticed, Pete Seeger was/is pretty influential on banjo playing.
Fozzymaple 3 years ago
steve very good i am also a new frailer in melbourne australia. Its good to see.
Patrick
theswindler1 3 years ago
Some people would say, "Don't practice your mistakes" while others would say "nice start toward old-time banjo."
Old-time banjo isn't only down-only clawhammer. Lots of mavericks and sidetracks through the years.
You'll never win an old-time banjo contest like that, but as long as you are having fun, who cares?
I suggest that anybody who tells you what you are doing is "wrong" should post their own video of them doing it "right."
fiddlefeller 3 years ago 5
Here's the good news!
There is no right or wrong way to play ANY musical instrument.
If it sounds good... it IS good.
Experienced musicians know this.
Only beginners and dabblers think that "their way" is the only way.
65 years ago, a young banjo picker from NC completely ignored the accepted way of playing banjo and developed his own style.
You may have heard his name: Scruggs?
Play any way you want and keep on pickin!!!
haunter112 3 years ago 18
bravo! my sentiments exactly!
krimskrams 3 years ago
@haunter112 im still laughing you are so rite.
postcardsfromheaven 1 year ago
I like the up picking i find it eaisier, nice playing !
Jimirocks 3 years ago
awesome job man have u considered doin clawhammer lessons on here?
kykybunny11 3 years ago
Oh! I don't think I'm nearly that good! But thank you very much for the sentimment. Of course it's nearly a year now I have been playing, but still, Donald Zepp and Pat Costello are the ones to learn from.
AussieSteveBoyle 3 years ago
Very nice! I guess by now you've learned that it wasn't a matter of "right" or "wrong," but rather a Scruggs/bluegrass approach versus clawhammer.
winneagle 3 years ago
is that a bean blosom banjo
cfd7311 3 years ago
It's an Oakridge
AussieSteveBoyle 3 years ago
When I started 'Frailing' (what I thought was frailing!) based on records, I used an up/down 'Scratch'of the fingers.
Now I mostly use the straight downward "hammer" of the "claw" (hence "clawhammer", but you probably figured that out, heheh) 'cos that's definitely how Patrick Costello operates and it means I can follow him more smoothly.
But you can get some cool effects wit the 'Wrong' way, and you've got it real smooth: keep that technique in reserve-sounds good. Take care of yer nails tho!
thebawzbrigade 3 years ago
It sounds good. Wonderfully smooth rhythm. I started off learning from Pete Seeger's old banjo book, it's a great book. You'll eventually want to learn frailing I'll bet, it has such a great feel to it too, it's really essential for some songs. The more styles of playing, the more variety and versatility. Keep it up.
MoGiMaL 3 years ago
Not bad at all for the time spent.
Practice will fix that.
Great old type sounding play.
Good job!!!
MacArsenault 4 years ago
nice picking, ive also discovered what i played was seger style
btw is that a Washburn b8?
beerasaurus 4 years ago
If up-picking was good enough for Dock Boggs, it's good enough for me! Banjo snobs go home.
coljdwilx 4 years ago
The first day I was up-picking, just cause I really didn't understand what I was doing, but then decided to force myself to learn how to do it down-picking.
Logan5312 4 years ago
Thank you! Yes I've seen Pete and also Dr Ralph Stanley also did something like this, so I have since felt much more comfortable with this style, having seen them use it so very well.
AussieSteveBoyle 4 years ago
Very Good. Different technique, but whatever works for you is okay. There are no rules to playing music. If you down pick you may be able to play faster and get more of that bum-di-tee sound.
Your sort of halfway between clawhammer and Scruggs style -- Scrugghammer :)
Keep it up. I can't wait to get my video camera so I can start posting vids. This is such a great avenue for everyone to learn different styles.
ReverendGoob 4 years ago
Thanks dude. Post another vid of your progress too, man!
AussieSteveBoyle 4 years ago
Nothing wrong with up picking, however it is a different style and produces a slightly differnt sound than down picking would. You can play the same tabs as with frailing, but this realy isn't frailing or clawhammer.
switzforge 4 years ago