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  • Good for a CNC demo, not useful as a engine block. It would not last long in pure aluminium :-)

  • Anybody know how long this would take from start to finish?

  • whoever wrote those CNC codes is one freakin genius!

    I just wrote my first CNC program today at school.. Alot of fun!

  • 3:26 would make a perfect table in my living room!

  • WOW so that's how the are made.

  • There's gotta be a faster way of hogging all those deep cavity cuts...

  • checking to see if my username looks good

    Keep on tokin 

  • 9:46 wish i could get the wife to move like that

  • That's bad ass!

  • what make is this engine is it BMW?

  • Dear Santa...

  • I'll take two!!

  • Awesome video. Question is... Will this be a real engine one day? I don't think so. But it sure looks cool. I gotta wonder if they have ever made a real engine block for use.

  • amazing video but cast-iron is the way to go ^)^

  • @omid11

    Not really. Billet aluminum is how the big boys roll. Using enriched sleeves.

  • tell that to bmw with their m12/13 block

  • Not joking nor being hypocrite, I really love the background music! :-)

    Oh the video is nice too, haha!

    Really, this is one awesome piece of engineering, would mind having one just for fun :-D

  • how many blocks do you get out of a bit?

  • And then the guy that gets it Forgets to tune it and Detonates the engine. lol probably not if they are buying this but i bet you it has happened.. all that work for nothing.

  • Damn That's gonna be one hellova strong block!

  • How much would a block of Aluminium like that cost in the first place?

  • I've gotten to see some genius of a kid actually make a Matsuura 'sing'. Needless to say, I have a newfound respect for the machine as an artist. It's truly gorgeous, to say the least.

  • is this for prototyping or for ''fun''?

    great job

  • WHY THE HELL SOME ONE COULD DISLIKE THIS?!?!

  • Like the machining, not sure about the music

  • malupet!meron ba nyan sa Pinas?

  • OMG! Who is make this machines?

  • I hope you checked the program with single block first ! :)

  • its almost too beautiful to ever be be built, i say hang that block on the wall.

  • and how much did that machine cost?

  • No I mean the program

  • What kind of car did this go into? what was the power output of the motor?

  • @seroyer2

    Probably is prototype, but engines like this in video are mostly racing engines, and power depends about displacement and application-setup.

  • @2jzgtejza80 I was guessing it was for a race car of some kind, since a engine block like this would cost some where in the $10,000 - $15,000 range just for the block.

  • @seroyer2

    Average 427 7.0 liter block from Gm cost 4000 $ alone and it's cast, mass produced, this machined is much more... maybe 25,000-30,000. It's 119 hours of precise work on them. Average cast block can be made in 2 hours.

  • @seroyer2 or someone has the cash to shell out for a show car

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  • @chevv08baby

    You would never machine an Iron block out of solid like this. The whole reason for using iron over steel is the ease of casting. Now steel on the other hand you might but again no one would ever actually do it because you could make it cheaper out of aluminum by a lot due to the reduction in machining time.

  • @compucar03 Oh yeah, cause back 40 years ago, all cars had aluminum blocks. There was never milled iron blocks, i'm just full of shit.

  • @chevv08baby

    Yes, you are full of shit and know basically nothing about materials and their selection for manufacturing. There were never CNC machined Iron blocks from a solid chunk like this. They were cast and then the castings were machined. That is the point of cast iron. Iron sucks ass to machine it is less strong and less tough than steel which can be machined faster, heat treated stronger and is easier on tooling. That said I don't think there are any billet steel engine block either.

  • @chevv08baby

    Buddy last 10 years American car companies produce all-aluminium alloy blocks. Before 40 years american cars had to use cast iron blocks and heads, later Al-Cu-Ni-heads (polished). One of the newest aluminium alloy blocks is LS1, than whole family LS2,3,6,7,9. Ford had aluminium 1100cui V8 in Tanks in 1945.

    Cast iron is is can't be forged, so they just cast them and than machined, but not like this V8 in video. Steel is never used for blocks (bad heat conductivity, hard to cast)

  • @chevv08baby

    There's is several type's of cast iron (ductile, gray and CGI). Before and even today engine blocks was cast with gray iron. (NASCAR, old Top Fuel, and GT's) were using CGI (Compacted Graphite Iron- higher toughness than Gray). And modern cast iron engine are CGI-ductile form (like BMW, Audi, VW, Mercedes, Renault, Fiat diesels), and they are the best cast iron engines. From same material is made RB26 in Skyline and 2JZ is Supra. Cast iron is heavier than Al-alloy 3 times.

  • @2jzgtejza80 thanks for that info, but i already know that, All i was saying was it must take longer to make an iron block. Why the fuck does that sound like i need help learning about engine blocks

  • @chevv08baby

    I dont wanna sound like a teacher, just to make clear some things. Also i need that Matsuura Maxia machine :D

    and i need few millions for that mechanical toy :D

  • @2jzgtejza80 Yes i couldn't agree with you more. Making a one off block just for your car, now that would be bad ass. As for the money well if you find a gold mine, you can get one :)

  • @chevv08baby

    Your nick tells me that you know, Nelson Racing Engines are mostly cast, but mr. Nelson also offer for 75,000 $ fully CNC machined 383, 426, 454, 502, 527, 632 forged blocks :D

  • 65 women watched this video

  • But.....WILL IT BLEND?

  • Хуйня... Я такой напильником выпилю....

  • @Bosyak1 please make a video when you do and post it on YouTube, thanks

  • 65 dislikes are from the hippies

  • could you put a video of this machined engine block working today?

  • 3:29 awsome coffe table lol

  • Man, could you imagine doing this on an old school tape machine lol

  • rmfox this is real working engine or just a model?

  • @noguild2007 Its real.

  • how many sets of tooling and how many inserts? what alloy where the machining

  • how many sets of tooling and how many inserts?

  • what precision is working area for this mashine????

  • It's an japanese machine fuck face! Not made by your so called "white" race. You're just a not by god blessed racist! FRPLY (Fuck Racist People Like You)

  • God bless the White race! The world would be nowhere without us! WPWW!

  • I bet the program weighed more then the finished block.

  • @gregoryscottsr you mean the machine......

  • or casting

    

  • what advantage is there from machining from an entire solid block instead of many small pieces

    

  • what is this wizardry!??!

  • Thanks for the video. I'm looking for a company that owns this type of machine (or even similar) in the Philippines. I'm an industrial designer who design parts and build prototypes that frequently needed CNC machining services. For now, I need to travel to Hong Kong and China to have the parts done which is costing me more time and money. Can anyone tell me where I can avail such service in the Philippines? Thanks.

  • the machine is very impressive but the cutting tools have my respect maybe its the years around small shops that buy regrounds

  • Wow, so it takes longer to machine the block than it lasts on the track?

  • That's a dandy tool, that is.

  • Amazing!

  • These blocks get used for drag racing [Top Fuel] . Maybe bot this exact one but these billet cut ones.

  • so how long did this take in real time?

  • @tnphysics

    119 hours pf continuous machining. Thanks for the question.

  • @rmfrox I was going to ask how long to machine the engine block, but I see that was answered. So if you machined that engine block, what type of material was used (aluminum, or steel) and how much would one cost if you were to produce it? I understand you don't manufacture these, just curious on how much one would cost, as opposed to a forgrd block.

  • @rmfrox but i dont think that this is efficient for mass production, right? just a prototype?

  • @flowbroerhan

    Every engine, car, or anything else what is produced is mass production, becoming less expensive than limited editions or prototypes. Example: NSX-R in 2002. cost over 200,000 $, But they produced several hundred models and price has dropped at 75,000 $. same is with Chevy LS7 engine. Chevy produced over 5000 LS7 engines in just 2 years and price of each today is about 14,000 $ in US and 20,000 in EU. Whole development of LS7 probably cost millions $. 1 engine=1M$, 5000=15k$

  • @rmfrox Holy crap thas 3 shifts for a working week, just for 1 engine block. Someones got some serious cash to shell out for this

  • @rmfrox

    What about the cost of operating that machine for roughly 120 hours, plus the programming plus the materials. In short, all the expenses, how much?

  • @Acruz9301 Here is AUS i manage a machine shop. I charge programming and CNC machining out at $100 per hour which includes tooling consumables. Same goes for programming. I would say that block of aluminium would cost around $5000. You wouldnt have much change left from $25,000 for that finished block...

  • @IBLOWN you answered my question before i even asked it, When i saw this thing being made my mouth dropped. Simply Because i was thinking how much all that work would cost lol.

  • porn track music ?

  • Wondering Machining vs Casting ??

  • @javamashariki

    But where would the fun be in casting?

  • jajajajajaja, the power, speed, timing and precision, the BEAST!!!!!!

  • could you send me the full video without music please ... I like xD!

  • one hell of a machine...no wonder one of these machine i know so far cost MYR 1.7 million and it is sitting inside my college..

  • block and steel or aluminum?

    

  • @ROBERVALBARRIO

    aluminium that feed rate on those revs is just not possible on steel and also you se there is no discoloration in the material coming from the cutterhead

  • this machine is delivering a spectacular show...

  • i heard that if something happened to the head & you had to replace it, then you're fucked & have to start all over again..is this true ?

  • @JordanianPride80 You mean cylinder head (different component to an engine block) or the drill bit in the CNC machine? I imagine if the drill bit broke it'd just pause until it was replaced, then resume.

  • bestiale!!!!!!

  • Two strokes is all I could last through for this video.

  • Ich schnitze mir einen V8-Motor aus einem BLOCK ALU - BIG BLOCK sozusagen...

  • 6:50 wtfbbq

  • I could be mistaken but to all the people with the questions about the cooling... Im pretty sure this is a cadillac block... And if do then the water jets r the empty spaces around the cylinders and its all pretty well free flowing even the oil jets r so simple in those blocks that they could be drilled in later cause I don't think they even drilled or taped any bolt holes... I didn't see em but I may just have to watch it again... Anyway I could be wrong... r

  • lol the cnc machine cuts with such ease... feels like its cutting into butter :P

  • Does anyone know what this process costs?

  • lol on the this is machinist porn comment. its kinda like on seinfeld with the barbers watching edward scissorhands.

  • @id10t80 ROFL!

  • Great job, will add this to our CNC Playlist at bin952 channel. Yea, like it needs the extra views. ha ha. Very popular.

  • i creamed in my pants!

  • This is a fantastic vIdeo. Just think, now, 2011. With the advances in the CAM side of the operation, it could be even better. Plus a few advances in tooling too.

  • This is a fantastic vIdeo. Just think, now, 2011. With the advances in the CAM side of the operation, it could be even better.

  • Turn off your speakers...

  • I would like to have this video without music

  • i only wish this didnt have the lame music.

  • 真是太神奇了

  • Cutting blocks like that is a waste of time. it's an impressive machine 6:50 mark. i like.

    Casting is the most efficient way.

  • @Ibringthetruth1 a cast block is not as strong as billet, this machine makes high end blocks.

    but yeah it would be pretty ridiculous for a production engine

  • @mageac

    I was wondering about this, I was thinking that the grain of the cast block might be better. I guess they orient the grain of the billet to a certain direction ?

  • @WinkenBlinkenAndNod yeah its something about the grain in billet lining up much better then in cast,

    cast is pretty much just poured into a mold, and gravity does the rest, while a billet block is formed in a die, it must have something to do with the pressures when the die strikes i looked it up, billet is not always stronger then forged parts, a cheap billet part wont be as strong as a high quality forged part. forged is die formed as well, but in the basic shape of the finished part

  • @Ibringthetruth1 I thought an engine block made this way is vastly superior to a cast block? Tolerences etc, not to mention its made from a single piece of alloy

  • Give me a nailcutter, and i will fix this within the time of a eyewink!

  • Chuck norris can do this with a power drill and a vise XD

  • now that is a real work of art that some serious design mathematics to be able to make the machine draw cuts while the block and the cutter is swirving. The timing, the precision, and the detail, the power and speed.

    Amazing

  • Movie first uses which factory row is the cutting tool

  • @wyskasses Demonstrating the capabilities of a Matsuura 5-axis. Have you ever attended a machine tool show? They've got set-ups similar to this all over the place. A man can spend a whole day at a tool show and still not get tired of looking around.

  • impressive machinery but for the love of Pete please get rid of that nasty music

  • Buddy how this engine is going to be cooled if it were to be assembled and run??

  • Say theres a company that makes forged pistons; they start with a forged block of metal first and then the CNC machine process........Is this correct??

  • Correct me if I'm wrong, but this engine block can't be used, right? It's got no water jacket.

  • @RulerOfEverything Correct... although I believe it could be used for drag racing as some drag cars don't run a coolant system because it robs power and is not necessary for such short engine running times

  • @Trappy1 8:20 mark the finishing tool is finishing the water jackets, so this engine is liquid cooled. They skipped the tool that roughed them for some reason.

  • dont give me shit but this looks a lot like a ford modular. is it? or just generic

  • Amazing. Makes me ashamed that we have one of these machines and we use probably a thousandth of its ability. Mill, turn, mill, turn. Turn all the parts 180 degrees. Mill, turn, mill, turn. repeat x infinity.

    At least this keeps me awake with a smile on my face. Hmmmm. With that sentence in mind, I think I'll go to bed now and bug my wife.

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    that is too much waste it of time,,,

    best use melt aluiminuium pour in a mold then little trim clean up

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  • @bestamerica Forged and milled engine components have much higher tolerances and are able to withstand a lot more over a cast part.

  • the programming alone must of took a long time to produce...whoever operates this must get paid great money

  • I work in engineering recruitment, I deal with CNC programmer/setters/operators on a daily basis. These videos give me a great insight into the work they do. This in particular is very interesting.

  • How can there be 58 dislikes???

  • @jtjoser somehow women are stumbling upon this video

  • can i get the program ;) could this actually be used in a car?

  • do it with a block of cheese

  • Chuck Norris can do that with a Nailfile :D

  • is this in fast forward?

  • I want the job of watching that stuff all day and get paid for it.

  • That thing is BEASTLY!

  • This is machinist's porn.

  • How do they put in the steel sleeves for the cylinders?

  • @Sonoitadrifter you use cast iron sleeves and sleves can be installed into the block with a compressing tool or good old fashioned apparatus--- basically you can freeze the sleeve so it shrinks just a bit while cold to it can be installed- then as it thaws out and returns to room temperature it fits snugly.

  • This video hypnotized me man, it really is meditation for men. I honest to god fell into a trance watching this thing mill out a V8.

  • @thchris well it should its a formula 1 engine so its prolly only 3.0l or 3.5l

  • Impressive video but not practical to make a block this way, too slow and too expensive.

    The programing for that will have been a massive task..

    I work for Ford engine manufacturing, our newest small ally engine is being made at the rate of nearly 100 engines an hour 24/7 and that is still not enough.

  • @daveperry100 Its just a demo video to show what their machines are capable of. Of course no body is going to make billet engines for mass production cars.

  • @daveperry100 There is no programming. you just feed the computer controlling this machine the design, and it builds it. That's the whole point of CAD/CAM.

  • Need to marry you **busizz4me.info**

  • for those who don't know what a 5 or 6 axis stands for ..mimic the movements of a human arm, axis 1 and 2 are effectively a shoulder, axis 3 and 4 elbow and forearm and axis 5 and 6 are the wrist of the robot

  • how much these machine cost?

  • @rmfrox Wow, amazing. How much would it cost for one of those blocks?

  • how many lines was this program?

  • @codcrazy2012 it'll probably take a few days to convert the 3D CAD model into the milling program. That should take into account the tool and speed optimization

  • What cutting tool first is?

  • I would like to know how accurate the cut's are down to how many 10 thousanth of an inch or better??? how long did this actually take?? would this be good for machining gas turbine shellss?

  • from what i have read ...

    "accuracies of ±5µm with repeatability of ±3µm."

  • that got me hard

  • @rmfrox what scale is the block? is it full size and what engine block is it? whats it for??

  • That's FUCKIN' RIGHT!!! Close your eyes and floor it!!!

  • this thing is a hog

  • How do the operators deal with coolant heat? I'm sure the coolant rises in temperature as you cut the material. When the Work piece was having the lifter valley cut out the coolant seemed to be near steaming. It could have been the cutting head throwing the coolant out as it ran, but I was unsure.

  • @btwbrand

    They continuously spray cool water onto the surface. I won't use harsh chemicals..you know-unnecessary regulations and craps like that.

  • Ask that which brand cutting tool in the movie cutting tool from the very beginning is? Model?

    Feeling probably very easy to use ^^

  • What sort of tolerances is this being machined to?

  • What are the benefits of a CNC machined from billet engine block versus a cast engine block?

  • I found it kinda relaxing to watch

  • are teacher made us watch this in my automotive class

  • Japan as Number One!!

  • Every shed should have one !!

  • I want you to post a video of a CNC machine... Making another CNC machine :D