@opera123able Incorrect, Holyfield gave Bowe a tough fight and they wanted to fight Holyfield because rematches between American champion fighters are highly lucrative and there might have been a rematch clause. I do think that dumping the WBC belt was an attempt to make the WBC look bad, that's the whole point. It's not because of what you're suggesting about them not wanting to fight because of personal reasons. It's about the money as usual.
@opera123able I'm not wrong I'm simply stating the facts. Newman made an offer that was bad for Lewis? Well that's what negotiations are and when you have leverage you can make them. It wasn't Bowe dumping it in the bin that made any difference at all it was a symbolic gesture because there's a date when it's stripped like it happened to Muhammad Ali and Leon Spinks. You have to realise getting to the date when Lewis would get it by default is probably what they wanted anyway,
@opera123able Yes I am in fact 100 % correct and that wasn't your point at all. Bowe and Lewis was not a definite non-starter but boxing is a complicated business and managers are in negotiations with multiple people at a time trying to find the best deal. It's not because they refused to fight it was because of combination if legal and financial matters like every single championship bout in boxing.
@opera123able No actually I am 100 percent correct. This is called the business and politics of boxing but sadly your mind hasn't developed past the quarrels of school boys. Sometimes fighters do get around the process but it's a costly legal affair which they try to avoid because inactivity takes time and money.
@opera123able Actually Lewis was contractually obligated to HBO for a 10 fight deal and he had to fullfil that commitment before he fought Tyson who had a contract with showtime. Tyson had to relinquish the WBC belt because Lewis was the mandatory contender because he was the mandatory contender for Bruno who fought Tyson for a bigger purse. Tyson in turn fought Holyfield because that was the biggest purse on offer in the world at that time. Similar story with Bowe v Lewis.
BOXING; Despite Lack of Seasoning, Lewis Retains W.B.C. Title
By TIMOTHY W. SMITH
Published: September 27, 1998
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After Vaughn Bean lasted 12 rounds against Evander Holyfield in their heavyweight championship fight last week, Lennox Lewis complained that Holyfield looked like a has-been.
YES WE KNOW.......BECAUSE THE SPONGE CAKE CHINNED HOMOSEXUAL COWARD LENNOX LEWIS ONLY EVER FIGHTS:
Ring selected Holyfield third best Heavyweight of all time behind only Muhammad Ali and Joe Louis. In 2002, Ring selected him the 22nd best fighter of the last 80 years, up from number 44 on a pre-Tyson win 1996 list of best fighters of the last 50 years.
Only five days after needing a gun and a mask to get out of New York with a decision over Ray Mercer, Lewis and his minions met for 16 hours with promoter Don King supposedly to get Lewis to honor the World Boxing Council's year-old promise of a fight for the WBC title with the champion, Mike Tyson.
Dude whatever you said didn't make much sense to me? "He wasn't good in his prime, But he perfected his style in later years" Apart from his last fight when he put on a little beef, his prime was his later years
Yes Evander, yes......... You had very big suprise............. You had the same promoter with Tyson, this shark Don King and you had very big suprise because Tyson choose you and not Lewis, because King Don , Tyson and you of cource made much more money for this fight..........
When Cus said that "CHAMPION FIGTHERS ARE THE BIGGEST CHAMPION LIERS" , HE WAS VERY RIGHT.
Yes Evander. You had very big suprise.......... You had the same promorter with Tyson, this shark Kin Don and you had very big suprise because Tyson choose you and not Lewis...... When Cus said that "CHAMPIONS FIGTHERS ARE THE BIGGEST CHAMPIONS LIERS", HE WAS VERY RIGHT.
Yes Evander. You had very big suprise.......... You had the same promorter with Tyson, this shark Kin Don and you had very big suprise because Tyson choose you and not Lewis...... When Cus said that "CHAMPION FIGTHERS ARE THE BIGGEST CHAMPIONS LIERS", HE WAS VERY RIGHT.
lewis and holyfield forgot who mike tyson is :S i dont really thing holyfield forgot mike cuz of the bite xD but if mike was 30-35 years old he would kicked their ass :S
So? Foreman ducked Shavers, so did Frazier duck shavers..do that make THEM cowards...??? Tyson ducked Lewis and payed him something like 3 mil to stay out of his way...does that make Tyson a cowerd..? Fighters duck fighters...its about money
@LaurieJames Those guys didn't duck Shavers. His career started in 1969 and it wasn't loss free. Foreman only got to the heavyweight championship in 1973 and lost it in 1974 an Frazier's career had slowed down a lot by then. Shavers lost to guys like Stander and Lyle who were beaten by Frazier and Foreman respectively.
@LaurieJames Well they wouldn't have tried a reason to fight the guy but I don't think Shavers would have wanted to fight them either. Foreman was a bigger and usually threw more punches and Frazier literally broke Chuvalo's face so it would have been interesting.
Lewis was 3 yrs older then tyson but between 1986-1989 tyson defended his title 10 times with lewis totally in hiding.Lewis could have turned pro by 1987 if he really wanted to but his management were terrified that tyson when he was the best on the planet would have taken lewis out in 3.you know it,I know it and the experts know it.
@fadethetrade Dumbass..Lewis wasn't even a pro in 1988. He won the Gold Medal in the 88 Olymipcs and then turned pro after that. No one would have given Lennox a shot ot the title before his first 20 fights.
evander states things the way they suit him best .
but the facts are that he ducked lennox from 93 onwards , tyson ducked lewis from 92 onwards and bowe gave up his belt when he couldnt duck lewis no more .
so it is legitimate to say , that lewis was robbed from ruling the scene from 1992 -to 1997 . tyson , bowe and holyfield ran a don king run show , petending they where top of the foodchain .
don king , you convicted murderer , it is about time you meet your maker
Holyfield's intentions were to fight Moorer, Tyson, Lewis then Bowe one more time before retiring. Lewis kind of laid low key after the McCall cotastrophe.
That's why it didn't happen earlier. Lewis was a great fighter, but he gave his chin to both McCall and Rahman. Holyfield never got stopped in the prime of his career by any bums. He was stopped once by Bowe in their third meeting. Had they met earlier I think I would give the advantage to Evander, not to take anything from LL. A true puglst
@JoeCalzagheTheCoward HAHA you fucking natzi, Lewis=Hall of fame (FACT) he is there! He beat all those motherfuckers of that era. Tyson never wanted Lewis, he paid him 5 million to avoid him! Lewis is one of the all time heavyweight greats anyone within thje sport of boxing will tell you that. Evander is telling you that right here! No fucker wanted lewis any those who took him got took fuckin out!
The World Boxing Council wants Tyson to defend against Lennox Lewis of England, a former champion and now its No. 1 contender. Lewis turned down a $13.5 million guarantee to fight Tyson. Lewis then accepted $4 million from King to step aside and allow Tyson to fight Seldon
LENNOX LEWIS = MARSHMALLOW CHINNED COWARD, TERRIFIED OF SERIOUS COMP
He calls himself a champion but he never had to beat a champion in the ring to get his title.
'And who's he fought compared to me? Ray Mercer beat him but was robbed of the decision.
the real reason why I'm being delayed in getting my third belt is because Lewis wouldn't agree to cut the kind of deal I took in order to get my first fight with Tyson.
@JoeCalzagheTheCoward You have serious issues! release your grip from tysons cock for a minute and think again..Who did tyson beat? did he even beat anyone? Holyfield..nope..Lewis...nope...douglas(lol) ..nope..who he beat? No fucker. Tsyons record is one of the worst in boxing history!! I mean he couldnt even beat Golota coz he was smoking weed! lol a complete shame and joke to boxing. Lewis was a true champ fought everyone! retired a healthy wealthy man. Bravo Lewis, good example to kids.
@opera123able Incorrect, Holyfield gave Bowe a tough fight and they wanted to fight Holyfield because rematches between American champion fighters are highly lucrative and there might have been a rematch clause. I do think that dumping the WBC belt was an attempt to make the WBC look bad, that's the whole point. It's not because of what you're suggesting about them not wanting to fight because of personal reasons. It's about the money as usual.
capablemachine 4 months ago
@opera123able I'm not wrong I'm simply stating the facts. Newman made an offer that was bad for Lewis? Well that's what negotiations are and when you have leverage you can make them. It wasn't Bowe dumping it in the bin that made any difference at all it was a symbolic gesture because there's a date when it's stripped like it happened to Muhammad Ali and Leon Spinks. You have to realise getting to the date when Lewis would get it by default is probably what they wanted anyway,
capablemachine 4 months ago
@opera123able Yes I am in fact 100 % correct and that wasn't your point at all. Bowe and Lewis was not a definite non-starter but boxing is a complicated business and managers are in negotiations with multiple people at a time trying to find the best deal. It's not because they refused to fight it was because of combination if legal and financial matters like every single championship bout in boxing.
capablemachine 4 months ago
@opera123able No actually I am 100 percent correct. This is called the business and politics of boxing but sadly your mind hasn't developed past the quarrels of school boys. Sometimes fighters do get around the process but it's a costly legal affair which they try to avoid because inactivity takes time and money.
capablemachine 5 months ago
@opera123able Actually Lewis was contractually obligated to HBO for a 10 fight deal and he had to fullfil that commitment before he fought Tyson who had a contract with showtime. Tyson had to relinquish the WBC belt because Lewis was the mandatory contender because he was the mandatory contender for Bruno who fought Tyson for a bigger purse. Tyson in turn fought Holyfield because that was the biggest purse on offer in the world at that time. Similar story with Bowe v Lewis.
capablemachine 5 months ago
Tyson would knock both those fools out in his prime !
TheMagneto187 5 months ago
he is nothing more then a cheating bitch
derbenutzer122 5 months ago
@46popopower Agreed son! Joe Frazier and Evander Holyfield are my fav boxers
IamKurdSon 5 months ago
Is It Me Or Do He Sound Like Bubba Gump?
Hpnoticonline 6 months ago
BOXING; Despite Lack of Seasoning, Lewis Retains W.B.C. Title
By TIMOTHY W. SMITH
Published: September 27, 1998
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After Vaughn Bean lasted 12 rounds against Evander Holyfield in their heavyweight championship fight last week, Lennox Lewis complained that Holyfield looked like a has-been.
YES WE KNOW.......BECAUSE THE SPONGE CAKE CHINNED HOMOSEXUAL COWARD LENNOX LEWIS ONLY EVER FIGHTS:
1.) HAS-BEENS
2.) WASHED UP ALCOHOLICS
3.) WASHED UP DRUG ADDICTS
JoeCalzagheTheCoward 7 months ago
Holyfield bashed his wife,,,,,,,,,,WIMP
Soul7Patrol 8 months ago
Fuck Lewis
guttaboi88 9 months ago
After Lewis Turns Down $11 Million, Bowe Fight Won't Happen Until '94
July 21, 1993|From Associated Press
Lennox Lewis, the World Boxing Council heavyweight champion, has rejected a deal to fight Riddick Bowe for the undisputed title.
"The deal was $21 million for Bowe and a 50-50 split if the final purse went above $32 million,"
"We declined that, and the Bowe fight won't happen until the summer of 1994," Maloney said
JoeCalzagheTheCoward 9 months ago
Measured Against All Time - Evander Holyfield
Posted by: Cliff Rold on 12/27/2008 .
Ring selected Holyfield third best Heavyweight of all time behind only Muhammad Ali and Joe Louis. In 2002, Ring selected him the 22nd best fighter of the last 80 years, up from number 44 on a pre-Tyson win 1996 list of best fighters of the last 50 years.
JoeCalzagheTheCoward 9 months ago
Lewis shows his true color: yellow
Publication:The Boston Globe (Boston, MA) Publish date:May 19, 1996 Author:Ron Borges, Globe Staff
Only five days after needing a gun and a mask to get out of New York with a decision over Ray Mercer, Lewis and his minions met for 16 hours with promoter Don King supposedly to get Lewis to honor the World Boxing Council's year-old promise of a fight for the WBC title with the champion, Mike Tyson.
LENNOX LEWIS = MARSHMALLOW CHINNED COWARD
JoeCalzagheTheCoward 9 months ago
Dude whatever you said didn't make much sense to me? "He wasn't good in his prime, But he perfected his style in later years" Apart from his last fight when he put on a little beef, his prime was his later years
baker18269 10 months ago
Big lennox is the champ!
Full concentration an in prime no one beats lewis!
baker18269 11 months ago
tyson was the best since ali's last best ability in 1974,the rest get beaten by the classic tyson of 87-88.
fadethetrade 1 year ago
tyson is not just a man ! he is a legend !
JohnAntonyFortune 1 year ago
Do you have this video in its entirety?
5x5x5x5x5 1 year ago
@5x5x5x5x5 Its on youtube, search 'Ther undisputed Truth lewis Holyfield'
TheBoxingFan360 1 year ago
Yes Evander, yes......... You had very big suprise............. You had the same promoter with Tyson, this shark Don King and you had very big suprise because Tyson choose you and not Lewis, because King Don , Tyson and you of cource made much more money for this fight..........
When Cus said that "CHAMPION FIGTHERS ARE THE BIGGEST CHAMPION LIERS" , HE WAS VERY RIGHT.
danceswithwolvesful 1 year ago
@403766 man mike dose not have the his old heart anymore the 80s heart and mike could smash ali in his prime
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Yes Evander. You had very big suprise.......... You had the same promorter with Tyson, this shark Kin Don and you had very big suprise because Tyson choose you and not Lewis...... When Cus said that "CHAMPIONS FIGTHERS ARE THE BIGGEST CHAMPIONS LIERS", HE WAS VERY RIGHT.
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Yes Evander. You had very big suprise.......... You had the same promorter with Tyson, this shark Kin Don and you had very big suprise because Tyson choose you and not Lewis...... When Cus said that "CHAMPION FIGTHERS ARE THE BIGGEST CHAMPIONS LIERS", HE WAS VERY RIGHT.
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danceswithwolvesful 1 year ago
lewis and holyfield forgot who mike tyson is :S i dont really thing holyfield forgot mike cuz of the bite xD but if mike was 30-35 years old he would kicked their ass :S
aussie20092 1 year ago
I am the man!
primeboxers 1 year ago
@FELIKS2121
typical british coward?
Says he from behind his keyboard! Hahaha
balesy1974 2 years ago
Thats why he's a coward cause they had a deal worth 30 mill and he still wouldent.
That rematch would have been huge!
Tyson didn't pay lewis he just dropped that belt so he could go make the big payday with Holyfield.
Hushhushhush100 2 years ago
coward????? lol yeah right....its funny how some people invent thier own version of reality
LaurieJames 2 years ago
Everyone thinks hes a coward because he ducked Vitali on the rematch.
Hushhushhush100 2 years ago
So? Foreman ducked Shavers, so did Frazier duck shavers..do that make THEM cowards...??? Tyson ducked Lewis and payed him something like 3 mil to stay out of his way...does that make Tyson a cowerd..? Fighters duck fighters...its about money
LaurieJames 2 years ago 2
@LaurieJames Those guys didn't duck Shavers. His career started in 1969 and it wasn't loss free. Foreman only got to the heavyweight championship in 1973 and lost it in 1974 an Frazier's career had slowed down a lot by then. Shavers lost to guys like Stander and Lyle who were beaten by Frazier and Foreman respectively.
capablemachine 2 years ago
Maybe your right, but foreman himself said he avoided shavers.
LaurieJames 2 years ago
@LaurieJames Well they wouldn't have tried a reason to fight the guy but I don't think Shavers would have wanted to fight them either. Foreman was a bigger and usually threw more punches and Frazier literally broke Chuvalo's face so it would have been interesting.
capablemachine 2 years ago
Lewis was 3 yrs older then tyson but between 1986-1989 tyson defended his title 10 times with lewis totally in hiding.Lewis could have turned pro by 1987 if he really wanted to but his management were terrified that tyson when he was the best on the planet would have taken lewis out in 3.you know it,I know it and the experts know it.
fadethetrade 2 years ago
@fadethetrade Dumbass..Lewis wasn't even a pro in 1988. He won the Gold Medal in the 88 Olymipcs and then turned pro after that. No one would have given Lennox a shot ot the title before his first 20 fights.
AlHayta 7 months ago
evander states things the way they suit him best .
but the facts are that he ducked lennox from 93 onwards , tyson ducked lewis from 92 onwards and bowe gave up his belt when he couldnt duck lewis no more .
so it is legitimate to say , that lewis was robbed from ruling the scene from 1992 -to 1997 . tyson , bowe and holyfield ran a don king run show , petending they where top of the foodchain .
don king , you convicted murderer , it is about time you meet your maker
isitcosimblack 2 years ago
Holyfield's intentions were to fight Moorer, Tyson, Lewis then Bowe one more time before retiring. Lewis kind of laid low key after the McCall cotastrophe.
That's why it didn't happen earlier. Lewis was a great fighter, but he gave his chin to both McCall and Rahman. Holyfield never got stopped in the prime of his career by any bums. He was stopped once by Bowe in their third meeting. Had they met earlier I think I would give the advantage to Evander, not to take anything from LL. A true puglst
Adgm316 2 years ago
lewis is the man
skewboylucas 2 years ago
everiting ok with youre ear :p
feetlover18 2 years ago
duggerman the video is called the undisputed truth about this fight its been out there for 10 years
pritch9598 2 years ago
Where can i see this full program?
DuggerMan 2 years ago
Do u have the rest of this program?
SAMTHEMANTHATCAN 4 years ago
Lewis is the man!
LaurieJames 4 years ago 27
@LaurieJames Lewis only fights has-beens, coward
JoeCalzagheTheCoward 9 months ago
@JoeCalzagheTheCoward HAHA you fucking natzi, Lewis=Hall of fame (FACT) he is there! He beat all those motherfuckers of that era. Tyson never wanted Lewis, he paid him 5 million to avoid him! Lewis is one of the all time heavyweight greats anyone within thje sport of boxing will tell you that. Evander is telling you that right here! No fucker wanted lewis any those who took him got took fuckin out!
SugarRayP4P 9 months ago
@SugarRayP4PBOXING;Bronchitis Stops Tyson: Seldon Fight Is Off
Published: July 04, 1996
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The World Boxing Council wants Tyson to defend against Lennox Lewis of England, a former champion and now its No. 1 contender. Lewis turned down a $13.5 million guarantee to fight Tyson. Lewis then accepted $4 million from King to step aside and allow Tyson to fight Seldon
LENNOX LEWIS = MARSHMALLOW CHINNED COWARD, TERRIFIED OF SERIOUS COMP
JoeCalzagheTheCoward 9 months ago
@SugarRayP4PHow can Lewis accuse me of running? He is just a paper champion...
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He calls himself a champion but he never had to beat a champion in the ring to get his title.
'And who's he fought compared to me? Ray Mercer beat him but was robbed of the decision.
the real reason why I'm being delayed in getting my third belt is because Lewis wouldn't agree to cut the kind of deal I took in order to get my first fight with Tyson.
LENNOX = COWARD
JoeCalzagheTheCoward 9 months ago
@JoeCalzagheTheCoward You have serious issues! release your grip from tysons cock for a minute and think again..Who did tyson beat? did he even beat anyone? Holyfield..nope..Lewis...nope...douglas(lol) ..nope..who he beat? No fucker. Tsyons record is one of the worst in boxing history!! I mean he couldnt even beat Golota coz he was smoking weed! lol a complete shame and joke to boxing. Lewis was a true champ fought everyone! retired a healthy wealthy man. Bravo Lewis, good example to kids.
SugarRayP4P 9 months ago
@SugarRayP4P He almost killed golota because he had a bone in his skull that moved and if he punched it agian he could been injured permanently
thamostgangsta12 6 months ago
evander is the man
mrtvman 5 years ago 3