Everyone scores big on the Knicks: Wilt Chamberlain 100, Elgin Baylor 71, Pistol Pete 68, Jerry West 63, Kobe Bryant 61, Michael Jordan 55, Dwyane Wade 55, LeBron James 52, Rip Hamilton 51, Blake Griffin 44, Shaq 41, Reggie Miller 39, Paul Pierce 38... Good job New York!!
Ball hog? Wilt was playing on a mediocre Warriors team and he was the only real scoring option. The team was coached to get the ball in his hands. It wasn't Wilt's choice.
The average player in 1962. was 6'5.5'' and 208lbs , in 1967'(Wilt's prime) 6'6'' and 210lbs in 1993. 6'7'' and 217lbs , in 2001. 6'7'' and 224lbs . Where do you guys get that Wilt dominated becouse of his size and mass i will never understand .
@237mattyp Um... every power forward and center, and most of the small forwards were all capable of dunking by 1962. It's only into the mid 1980's and on after the combined equipment developments of break-away rims and very well designed Nike's (replacing the garbage chuck taylors that were painful to land in) that dunking started to become accessible to shooting guards and some point guards, and more regularly preferred over the layup by everyone.
@237mattyp Furthermore, Wilt certainly didn't score 50ppg and 100 points in one game on dunks. You'd be shocked at how little he relied on dunks when he was younger. He played with a soft touch. He was most often shooting jumpers, smooth fadeaways, and bank shots with the occasional sweeping hook from 10-16 feet plus his arsenal of finger rolls, post moves, fakes and layups. Dunking was a only a minor facet of young, and prime Wilt's ability to score. See for yourself /watch?v=kB43A-ODuLc&
@237mattyp In the game I just linked, out of 32 points he only dunked two shots - completely normal for him during his scoring years. He scored 28 of his points on 4 jumpers 4-6 layups, some with and-1's b/c of fouls, a finger roll, and the rest of his points he made at the free throw line. Take away all his dunks during his scoring prime and he would still score more ppg than any player in history. Replay that NCAA game 3 times in a row and that's ALMOST as productive as his 100 point NBA game.
Very true. For those old enough to remember the season he averaged 50 ppg his main weapon was in fact the fall away jumper. He would suspend this later in his career when his coaches were concerned about not getting offensive rebounds because of how far he was from the basket.
@Slyush Man if you took away Jordan's dunking ability, he wouldn't be recognized as he is now. I like Jordan & all, but Wilt Chamberlain actually led the NBA in assist at one point, rebounds he averaged 20 rebounds a game, & points, as A CENTER. Jordan really had nobody but Magic & Larry & I guess Doc. Those were really the main threats.
Savage beast. I agree. Just saying some of those baseball records are literally impossible to break. Cy Young's 511 wins, and the 56 game hit streak. I think this is also unbreakable, but more possible to be broken then the other 2
@BigTheNoodlez funny but probably the most unbreakable streaks in basketball are all Wilt's.
9 triple double games in a row
35 field goals in a row without a miss
18 for 18 field goals in a game
33 wins in a row
Of course, the NBA didn't count blocked shots in the Chamberlain era, so even though he's the only guy to have (at least 2 that I know of) QUADRUPLE DOUBLES in PLAYOFF games, those records aren't recognized.
And of course.... 227 double double games in a row...
@stere0brain damn hard to argue with that, even though i think MJ comes close.....but those stats of wilt are not just amazing they are mind boggling...............9 triple doubles? a center? wow
there is no way he would be this good in the 90s or in the 2000s. he would still be probably one of the top 3 players in the league but 50 and 25? he was a monster
@austin78993 He would still be that good in fact with the league's current rules he'd be completely unstoppable. His numbers would be lower due to the slow pace of today's NBA.
But not because anyone could stop him. Can you imagine either Gasol trying to hold that guy off?
Howard is 2 inches shorter & his reach is about 10 inches shorter than Nate Thurmond's but Howard has very little offensive skill... Chamberlain demolished Nate regularly
@stere0brain by the 2000s i mean like pre 2010 back when shaq and duncan and garnett were in there prime and ben wallace and a lot of good players were the 4/5. maybe he would dominate the 2000s, but in the 90s? He would be playing a good center or power forward almost every night. there is no way he would score 50 game playing 90s basketball. im sorry.
@austin78993 oh I agree about 50 ppg, 90s = slowest pace in history so far. Can't get points without touches.
90s though? To me, Shaq-Wilt is ultimate fantasy matchup but who else was going to stop him? Ewing? Ostertag? Rik Smits? Mike Gminski?
There was very few centers in the 90s actually. 30 teams, 4-5 great centers Shaq, Dream, D Rob, Ewing, Bill Cartwright.... that is 25 teams worth of easy nights for padding up the stats of elite players.
@stere0brain Dennis Rodman, Dikembe Mutumbo, Alonzo Mourning, Karl Malone. Not all those guys are centers but other good players who were Big Men. You had a lot of competition at the 4 and 5 in the 90s. Wilt Still up against all those guys could have been better but no way he would have anything near 50 and 25.
@stere0brain Shaq is the only player who i think that matches Wilt in tenacity, grit, skills and power. i would have loved to have seen that matchup.................another matchup would have been Russell vs Hakeem
@ODDNOMAD yeah of the last 20 years Shaq has been the peerless center, although Dream was also most monstrous and Shaq ranks him higher than himself.
Both Russell & Chamberlain respected Olajuwan greatly an that is saying a lot... only centers I ever heard Chamberlain talk about with respect after his peer group had retired was Shaq, Moses Malone, and Olajuwan, and even then he bashed Shaq a lot (like he did Kareem) for no rebounds and slack defense compared to what Shaq COULD have been doing.
@ODDNOMAD Shaq has almoust no skills and to say he matches Wilt in skills is just basketball ignorance . Wilt wasnt that tenacious at all , if he was tenacious like Shaq he would have been even better . Shaq has mass not power , Wilt had power couse he could bench press some unhuman weights with his mass.
@ODDNOMAD Almoust no skills , i dont see no fingerolls, fadeaways , all i see is bullying his was to the basket with his mass . His mass is not a skill . Peope used to say Wilt was just bullying his way to the basket and dunked it while the videos show that it was other way around , he used his skills to score while they are enough stupid to not see Shaq is doing this today to score , bullying his way to the basket with almoust no skills .
@BigTheNoodlez Theres no centers today who could hold him. He was long and athletic,...not to mention unreal agility for a center. He's like a 7'1 Hakeem. Thats scary to think about. I don't know about 50 and 25. But I do think he would break scoring records for single games and the season.
@GreenScreen619 the game pace is too slow today, there's not enough possessions for him to get those numbers. Too much dribbling by point guards, not enough shooting. But there's nobody that could stop him.
Watching Wilt score over the Russell, Havlicek & Wayne Embry triple teams was just mind blowing.
1 play I remember was Pistons Dave DeBusschere, Jim Fox, Tommy van Arsdale & Happy Hairston all 4 guarding Wilt, he just jammed anyhow - and actually made the free throw too!
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wilt was so powerful, he dunked taking off from free throw line back then, if he got the ball within 10 feet,one step he was putting it in the basket.i never saw it but rumor had it he could touch top of the backboard when he was young.,he was a great leaper for a man over 7 foot tall..watch some of his early play in the nba,virtually unstopable,the way they beat chamberlains team was stop everyone else,like when jordan came up scored 40 points a game and they still lost !
wilt has many records which will probably never be broken;100 pt game,55 reb game,4000 pt season,50 pt avg season,career 60 pt games,career 50 point games and the only double triple-double in nba history 22pts,25 rebs,21 assists,72% fg shooting for a season
@stere0brain well said that makes sense i was just curious and wondering but i think they still could have said kobe bryant came close of tying wilt chamberlain record but i understand what you are saying too it was all about wilt chamberlain epic performance on march 2, 1962 thanks for your input have a great day
The only way to beat that record is to have Kobe get one of them rediculous zones where he scores 30 points in a quarter. Then pray that he'll do that in 3 straight quarters. In the fourth have him score 11 more. Yup, impossible to beat.
You say he played in a week era.. You gotta understand that everyone in that time had the same amount of knowledge accessible. They didn't have all the stuff current day players do. Nutrition, coaches, techniques etc.
@FireStormBaller Well every record can technically be beaten, but I doubt this ever will unless the rules change so much and a player so dominant can get all his teammates to pass him the ball the entire game.
@tastycajun0381 Nate the Great??!! Look up what Jabbar says about Nate - best defense he ever faced. And Jabbar played against a lot of great centers.
Thurmond was 6'11 275 lbs..... bigger than Dwight Howard - big as any C today outside of the five or six 7 footers. Seriously a bruising punishing guy. In the era of the center, he was 2nd or 3rd best in the league every year
@tastycajun0381 lol nah go look at facts... check out basketball-reference website for example. Ya there was guys 6-1 but they were guards, same as today. Same as always. Just reality not myth. Fact is Wilt was NEVER the tallest guy in the league.
Just the best.
Ya gotta understand, there was only 8 & 10 teams, so naturally 8 & 10 centers.... Wayne Embry was the shortest C in the league at 6'8".... can't just go by what 20 year olds say, or ESPN... ESPN has no history before 1980
@tastycajun0381 yeah Bob Lanier, Bill Russell, Nate Thurmond, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Walt Dukes, Willis Reed, Walt Bellamy, Wayne Embry - all little white guys 5'5" right?
If Wilt was playing TODAY there's only Z & Yao taller than him an he'd crush them down like a bug.
All those guys could seriously ball and all of them was taller than Dwight Howard is - except Embry and he was a freaking tree trunk nobody could move.
BOZO go learn something about it but meanwhile STFU
Teams don't even have the opportunity to grab that many and 1 man would grab all of them? Pace of play is different, as is the game in general... when he grab 55 against Boston, his whole team took OVER 83TRB!
The pace of the game isn't the same period! Now, it's all about 23 second plays & a lot of jogging to 1/2 court set + perimeter shots! Back then, it was lots of fast breaks, right from the inbounds pass they RAN. Now, with sophisticated D, it is so easy to defend (fast-break)!
When Wilt scored 100 points, the final score was 169-147 in regulation! Now, teams rarely scored over 110 points per game with overtime, even if they hit 47% of their field goal
Average team in the 60's: 42% FG, 116PPG VS
Average team in the 2000's: 47% FG, 101PPG
Wilt would never even come CLOSE to getting the 37+ FGA per game to average 70, nor are there that many rebounds available in today’s game to grab 55 (next).
@Legend33Larry I wanted to comment but then i saw it was you so it was pointless ,youre a moron if you dont like Wilt go post on Larry Bird vids or whoever you like .
@tommy9882 It's called the "dipper shot" if I'm not mistaken. I honestly think that's more unstoppable then kareems skyhook. How the hell are you supposed to stop a fast, quick, strong guy whos 7'1 but with a 7'6 wingspan suddenly stretching those long ass arms and "dipping" it in
@tommy9882 well Ive never seen it blocked, but I have seen kareems hook blocked. anyways I'm pretty sure hes palming the ball when hes doing it out and literally just stretching it out and dipping it in. Most of the time anyway, theres alot of footage of him doing it in this video if I remember correctly, but a good example of it is at 23 seconds
@tommy9882 It's a finger roll. Wilt scored thousands of points with it, over Thurmond, Russell, Lanier, Cowens, Jabbar.... It's not a lost art, Garnett, Scola, Gasol used it this season.
It's seldom used though, because your leap has to be terrifically explosive or it will get smothered.
A finger roll over the front of the rim is far more artistic than a dunk, watch Jerry West Gail Goodrich, Iceman, David Thompson back in the day.
@tommy9882 Wilt's finger roll was just deadly - his post up game was the complete arsenal.
His footwork was amazing & his strength overpowering. Center guarding him had to think about his spin move - original Dream Shake.
Will he come over the top with a power drive for the dunk... or is it a Pearl spin for an 8' jumper? Or is it a spin at all? He may take two dribbles away from you to the outside & float up his patented 15' turnaround fadeaway jumper.
@stere0brain It's one thing to be strong like Shaq or athletic like Jordan. But to be the strongest AND the most athletic in one man....pffft...forget about it! unstoppable!
67 Sixers voted greatest team in history by NBA 35th Anniversary committee. Only team to beat the no-free-agency-stacked 60s Celtics - 76ers totally destroyed them. May have been the greatest team in history. Wilt had a quadruple double against the Celtics in the ECF,
The 72 Lakers are also in the argument as the greatest team in history. They still hold the professional sports record - 33 wins in a row. Laker Wilt was probably the GOAT defender.
@stere0brain The 67 Celtics were old and injured, but yes Wilt did lead sixers to the championship that year. So I was wrong. The 72 lakers were led by west, not wilt. The main thing I don't understand is why wilt can't play team basketball to win. And don't tell me about the season he led the league in assists. He did that just to lead the league in assists, not to help his team win
@pingtv I hear that one a lot about assists. But Hal Greer, Wali Jones Coach Hannum, and Chet Walker have told an entirely different story about that. I wonder who knows, the mythmakers in the Boston press, or his teammates?
When Sharman finally got rid of Baylor, who had played 11 games in 2 season, Chamberlain was elected Captain and they proceeded that very day to win 33 in a row.
Check out what Wali Jones said about Wilt just earlier this week.........
S.C: You played with some of the greatest players in NBA history and have been around the game for a long time. Is Wilt the best player of all time?
WJ: In history. In the history of basketball, how could you question that? As an individual, he’s the greatest basketball player ever to put on sneaks.
@pingtv No that is all wrong. Chamberlain was Captain of the Lakers in 72, not Logo. He was a great guard no doubt about it but Chamberlain was the leader of that team.
I always thought he lost interest in basketball that last 73 season. He still had great skill but it seemed like he had no fire in the belly. He had nothing left to accomplish, and 40 years later his legacy is completely untouched.
Yeah other players have more rings cuz they had better teams around them.
@lbj6mj23 He broke a guy's foot once with a dunk. It was Johnny Red Kerr, who coached the Bulls in their expansion years and then called the games all through their Pippen Grant Rodman MJ glory years.
AND!! He separated a guy's shoulder with a blocked shot... it was Gus Johnson who was a true flier could jump out the house & really hoop but he made the mistake of getting Chamberlain mad. Wilt touched nothing but ball and crashed down so hard they hauled Johnson out like a casualty of war
@DundrMifflin Saw him with 76ers and then with the Lakers - of course on TV lots
Lakers were Game of the Week for years, but also at the old Forum, saw a game in Chicago, couple times in San Fran once in Seattle... I couldn't say how many games but it was quite a few over last 7 or 8 years of his career
Back then tickets weren't just stupid tho either not like now. It's greed more than sport but that is just the whole world it seems like.
@DundrMifflin it was kinda strange I lived in philly but moved to LA and boom all of a sudden he showed up in LA.
Those were days when music was everywhere. Not the same culture today most everything has changed but you could see a symphony or a rock concert like Rolling Stones or Doors or Joplin, or see the Lakers any of them for less than 10 bucks so you had to decide the evening entertainment and of course girls were girls in that day freewheeling no worry
@Treemeslave He didnt play with them at the same time and 3 that I can think of were when he was 32 or older. Baylor was 34 when he started playing with Chamberlain, besides the fact that they were only on the court at the same time for about a season. He was also 34 when Goodrich came along. Hal Greer and Chet Walker he won one with. Paul Arizin was past his prime too. Besides Bill Russell played with those 8 hall of famers on one team. Your comparing Wilt playing on 3 teams with those
@Treemeslave Russell had all those hall of famers in the 62-63 season alone. He always had a team full of them. Wilt only played with a couple in there prime.
@Treemeslave Elgin Baylor or Wilt was injured during most of that time. So they had 1 full season together...West was there the whole time though, but still, not 8 hall of famers and if you have hall of famers on your team especially coming off the bench then thats a huge advantage
@Treemeslave He played with them for 3 years and won a title with him and this was Cunninghams first 3 years. But Im not so sure Hal Greer is underrated by most people who follow the game. Ive always thought he was up there, but thats besides the point.
@CuriosityRoads You're right he dominated in a weak era when almost every team had a couple hall of famers because the league was condensed so talent had to be put on a few teams. Plus he face Kareem who turned out to be a pretty good player. Plus he got a contract offered to him when he was 48 years old to play in 1984. but ya I guess you're expert opinion is valid.
@manimaduck. The reason he dominated because coaches didn't trust players over 6'7 of being fluid players. Even the team that drafted him only wanted him because of his height and nothing else. They looked at him like Mikan, a big thug. But Wilt forced the NBA teams to get players who were tall, skilled, and athletic. That is why you see player development in tall guys. Many tall guys fail when they come into the league but when a DW comes along, you stick with them.
@Ariamaluum There were a lot of good sub 6'7" guys back then. West, Baylor, Goodrich, Oscar, Havlicek, Cousy, Frazier, Sam Jones, and a a lot of others. The reason they drafted him was because he averaged 30-18 in college and his athleticism was out of this world. Even by todays standards he was still freaky. DW??? Dwayne Wade?? not sure what you mean there.
@manimaduck . Those guys that you mentioned were mostly guards and swingmen. The centers were Wayne Embry, Clyde Lovellette, Zelmo Beatty, Jerry Lucas, Willis Reed, Nate Thurmond, and Walt Bellamy. They weren't leapers until Joe Caldwell came along but he guarded the swingman. Really, until Elvin Hayes came, nobody could match with Wilt. Finally, Kareem but Wilt was on the decline and he wasn't a jumper. Only Bill Russell could.
@Ariamaluum I thought you meant just 6'7" guys in general. Russell could hardly even defend Wilt. He did post 55 rebounds on him. Even today though you dont have that many great leapers who are 7 foot. The ones that do dont have technique like Javale Mcgee. Most of the great 7 foot athletes are defensive players only, but Im sure Wilt would still school a lot of them. Elvin Hayes came into the league when Wilt was only averaging 20 PPG.
@Ariamaluum Nate Thurmond & Bells not leapers? Them guys could jump out the house and Nate's reach was 4 or 5 inches more than Wilt's, so was Russell's who was a world class high jumper, ranked 7th in the world
@musikaNeues. Them two were exception but if they got into foul trouble, Mel Counts, Darrell Imhoff, and them types came in. Bells was a leaper but once he got to New York and had weight trouble, he was a banger. Most jumpers then were explosive for 4 or 5 years. That is what makes Wilt special that he can run and jump for almost 10 years. Ironically, the year of Wilt was the rookie season of Walt Bellamy who did play Wilt tough but not other guys. Nate came in 1963 with Wilt as his teammate.
@Ariamaluum agree about the 4 or 5 years.... sports medicine was primeval. Knee injuries stopped almost every player, in every sport.
Joe Namath, Mickey Mantle, Elgin Baylor, Gale Sayers, Dick Butkus.... Wilt too. He came back from knee surgery with great vertical, but his lateral was never the same.
The list is endless from those days & there was nothing the doctors could do. Nowadays all those guys would come out of the doctor's office like a shiny new penny.
@musikaNeues. The reason why Wilt lasted longer than others because Wilt was sports medicine himself before the study was invented. He studied it while as a track athlete in Kansas and then as a horse trainer. Seeing the films, he jumped with the same routine, well-balanced, and well-timed. He also knew if he was hurt and how to nurse himself back from injury. Coaches, trainers, and doctros didn't give that kind of respect. He was the one who forced second opinions of doctors and trainers.
@Ariamaluum Sharp guy. His real estate investments made him a multi-millionaire in the days when the top NBA players were earning 60,000 - 100,000 a year - he was WAY ahead of anybody else in a lot of areas of the profession.
He invented the NBA payday beginning with his first season and players to this day get the benefit of what he did 50 years ago.
@musikaNeues. Those things actually started in his first year in the NBA. The NBA had a unwritten cap rule where they wouldn't pay a star player over 100,000 dollars. But Wilt had a nightclub in Harlem where he made over a 100,000 dollars. So when he didn't get want he wanted from the owners, he would simply threaten to retire or jump leagues. Publicly, it was said he made 100,000 dollars but was paid more under the table as long as Wilt didn't say anything. But other players got wind of it.
@Ariamaluum HoF Jerry Lucas was the big choice out of the college ranks in the early 60s, turned down NBA, signed with George Steinbrenner's ABL team for 40,000.. ABL went broke, Lucas sat out the year.
One of the greats to ever play, Lucas was a key reason the Knicks won in 73, dropping 30 foot shot puts over a 37 year old Wilt.
Late 70s Chamberlain said Lucas was the only player he had ever feared. As a Laker, Wilt could no longer guard outside, his lateral was ruined from his knee injury
@Ariamaluum When Lucas saw Wilt was able to guard him out to 20 feet, Jerry went back to 25, and then was shooting THIRTY FOOTERS. He pushed the ball off his right shoulder just like he put the shot in high school and they were going in. Who does that?
As far as I know, Walt Frazier was the first to use the word "rainbow" about a high arcing shot. He was talking about those 30 footers.
Even from that far out, Jerry was lofting the ball to the lights so Wilt Chamberlain wouldn't block his shot
@Ariamaluum Little known facts of his trade to the Lakers - at least, to Bill Simmons, who apparently can't do simple research when he writes drivel.
Wilt was offered part ownership of the 76ers. When the owner died, the new owner reneged. In a rage, Wilt forced the 76ers to trade him to LA, or he would go to the ABA. Faced with a trade or nothing, they made the deal.
Today people think players are sharp businessmen for making good deals.
@CuriosityRoads The funny thing is that people think the league is harder today than it was then.
Yet scoring champs still average the same 30 ppg that they did in the 60s, 70s, 80s, & 90s.
Of the top 10 scorers in NBA history, only 2 played in the 60s. Of the other 8, 5 played in the 90s-00s, the others all played all or almost all of their NBA time in the 80s.
If the 60s was such a weak time, according to you, then how come all these 90s-00s guys have more points than Oscar & Wilt????
A carreer average of 23 rebounds per game won't be broken either. Along with any player having a 70 point, 40 rebound game. Jordan could score a lot of points. So could Wilt. Wilt during his carreer led the league in scoring, FG%, rebounding, blocks, and in one season asists. No one came close to dominating a game from both sides of the court. No other player ever had a 20+ pt, 20+ rebound, 20+ assist game. WIlt also had plenty of 10+ block games which weren't counted back then.
@AyeDGAF Players were smarter back then. They are worse funadamentally today. A slow and relatively short white guy leads the league in rebounds today. Steve Nash leads the league in assists since he's been in the league. And many less athletic European teams with no black players have beaten teams made up of NBA players in recent world championship games. Argentina, Spain, Greece, Lituania. My point is NBA players are more athletic today, but they can't shoot or play team ball.
I don't understand why everyone is comparing back then to now. Jerry rice would probably not be as good now as he was back then. Night Train Lane would not be as good as he was today. I bet in 20 years when perhaps Kobe Bryant is inducted into the hall of fame, we will be saying Kobe wouldn't be as could as he today as he was back then. Let's enjoy the record not say it wouldn't be broken today.
As good as he was he stood under the ring (no 3 second rule back then) and stole other peoples points with offensive goaltending 2 points + 1 rebound. Perfect example is at 0:48 in this clip.
They didnt have many tall players back then and the game has evolved so much thesedays he wouldnt do half as good against todays defense. Dwight Howard could probly shut him down.
@Jamage007 The offensive 3 second rule existed since the 1936. Goaltending became a violation in 1944. , and offensive goaltending in 1958. Chamberlain came into the league in 1960 . You dont know anyting about nba history , you should focus on some other subjects but definately not nba history .
@Jamage007 So many nuts have said there was no 3 second rule when Wilt played. Do some research. 3 sec rule was enacted in '46. They had tall players back then. Bill Russell and others. When Wilt was past his prime, he blocked 6 of Kareem's (7'2") shots in one game. Dwight Howard can't shoot outside of 5 feet. Wilt had a jumper out to 12. Wilt was a lean 300 and would beat the crap out of Dwight Howard. Howard doesn't even lead the league in rebounds. A slow shorter white dude does.
@Jamage007 Wow you must not watch basketball... 0:48 wasnt offensive goaltending....offensive goaltending is when the ball is on the rim and they push it in. Goaltending was already illegal by this time too. As far as height Dwight Howard is 6'11" and the average center was 6'10" and the average player was 6'6" today its 6'7" not big of a difference. 5 People in the league were taller than Wilt at 7'1" Shawn Bradley is 7'6" and didnt dominate. They were fouled much harder back then too.
just to show u how hard it is to score 100 points in a game ive played 12 minute quarters in a NBA2k11 and i still cant score 100 points with one player
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Everyone scores big on the Knicks: Wilt Chamberlain 100, Elgin Baylor 71, Pistol Pete 68, Jerry West 63, Kobe Bryant 61, Michael Jordan 55, Dwyane Wade 55, LeBron James 52, Rip Hamilton 51, Blake Griffin 44, Shaq 41, Reggie Miller 39, Paul Pierce 38... Good job New York!!
bordertown 2 days ago
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bordertown 2 days ago
@xKiDxInSaNeX Still MJ is the best of all times
Slyush 5 days ago
People don't believe that he scored 100 but there are videos of it Epsn is wrong Scorecards from that game can prove
The65chevelle 2 weeks ago
He was a ball hog in that game... done end of story.. assits argument is irrelevant
MikeSuth69 1 month ago
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Ball hog? Wilt was playing on a mediocre Warriors team and he was the only real scoring option. The team was coached to get the ball in his hands. It wasn't Wilt's choice.
bordertown 4 weeks ago
@MikeSuth69 The coach told everyone on the team to keep passing to Wilt.
TheReeeeeech 3 weeks ago
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The average player in 1962. was 6'5.5'' and 208lbs , in 1967'(Wilt's prime) 6'6'' and 210lbs in 1993. 6'7'' and 217lbs , in 2001. 6'7'' and 224lbs . Where do you guys get that Wilt dominated becouse of his size and mass i will never understand .
garioldwin 2 months ago
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garioldwin 2 months ago
Back when he was the only one who could dunk
237mattyp 2 months ago
@237mattyp Um... every power forward and center, and most of the small forwards were all capable of dunking by 1962. It's only into the mid 1980's and on after the combined equipment developments of break-away rims and very well designed Nike's (replacing the garbage chuck taylors that were painful to land in) that dunking started to become accessible to shooting guards and some point guards, and more regularly preferred over the layup by everyone.
dantheman9758 1 month ago
@237mattyp Furthermore, Wilt certainly didn't score 50ppg and 100 points in one game on dunks. You'd be shocked at how little he relied on dunks when he was younger. He played with a soft touch. He was most often shooting jumpers, smooth fadeaways, and bank shots with the occasional sweeping hook from 10-16 feet plus his arsenal of finger rolls, post moves, fakes and layups. Dunking was a only a minor facet of young, and prime Wilt's ability to score. See for yourself /watch?v=kB43A-ODuLc&
dantheman9758 1 month ago
@237mattyp In the game I just linked, out of 32 points he only dunked two shots - completely normal for him during his scoring years. He scored 28 of his points on 4 jumpers 4-6 layups, some with and-1's b/c of fouls, a finger roll, and the rest of his points he made at the free throw line. Take away all his dunks during his scoring prime and he would still score more ppg than any player in history. Replay that NCAA game 3 times in a row and that's ALMOST as productive as his 100 point NBA game.
dantheman9758 1 month ago
@dantheman9758
Very true. For those old enough to remember the season he averaged 50 ppg his main weapon was in fact the fall away jumper. He would suspend this later in his career when his coaches were concerned about not getting offensive rebounds because of how far he was from the basket.
bordertown 1 month ago
When you look at this man's career stats, how can you say (anybody) was better?
whoedj24 2 months ago 7
@whoedj24 Because back than his major challenge was boston . There were like 8 teams. If you're looking statisticly than ya clearly noone better.
01shan001 2 months ago
@whoedj24 MICHAEL JORDAN!!!GREATEST ALL TIME!!!
Slyush 1 week ago
@Slyush Man if you took away Jordan's dunking ability, he wouldn't be recognized as he is now. I like Jordan & all, but Wilt Chamberlain actually led the NBA in assist at one point, rebounds he averaged 20 rebounds a game, & points, as A CENTER. Jordan really had nobody but Magic & Larry & I guess Doc. Those were really the main threats.
xKiDxInSaNeX 1 week ago
i kinda miss seeing stuff like that on the bottom of the screen at 0:27
TheFilipinoBoxer 3 months ago
@TheFilipinoBoxer it happened this year.. believe it or not cavs beat the heat this yr.
victorlopez007 2 months ago
@victorlopez007 oh yeah they also beat the lakers
TheFilipinoBoxer 2 months ago
watch?v=kB43A-ODuLc
at 3:12 - Wilt Chamberlain goes to the top of the backboard in a game.
stere0brain 3 months ago 2
wow i noticed he hit 28 freethrows out of 32 attempts?
ODDNOMAD 4 months ago
Savage beast. I agree. Just saying some of those baseball records are literally impossible to break. Cy Young's 511 wins, and the 56 game hit streak. I think this is also unbreakable, but more possible to be broken then the other 2
BigTheNoodlez 5 months ago
@BigTheNoodlez funny but probably the most unbreakable streaks in basketball are all Wilt's.
9 triple double games in a row
35 field goals in a row without a miss
18 for 18 field goals in a game
33 wins in a row
Of course, the NBA didn't count blocked shots in the Chamberlain era, so even though he's the only guy to have (at least 2 that I know of) QUADRUPLE DOUBLES in PLAYOFF games, those records aren't recognized.
And of course.... 227 double double games in a row...
Wilt = GOAT
stere0brain 4 months ago
@stere0brain damn hard to argue with that, even though i think MJ comes close.....but those stats of wilt are not just amazing they are mind boggling...............9 triple doubles? a center? wow
ODDNOMAD 4 months ago
@ODDNOMAD wilt couldve got more triple doubles... if they counted blocks. many books say wilt averaged about 8-10 blocks a game
TheReeeeeech 4 months ago
there is no way he would be this good in the 90s or in the 2000s. he would still be probably one of the top 3 players in the league but 50 and 25? he was a monster
austin78993 5 months ago
@austin78993 He would still be that good in fact with the league's current rules he'd be completely unstoppable. His numbers would be lower due to the slow pace of today's NBA.
But not because anyone could stop him. Can you imagine either Gasol trying to hold that guy off?
Howard is 2 inches shorter & his reach is about 10 inches shorter than Nate Thurmond's but Howard has very little offensive skill... Chamberlain demolished Nate regularly
Who else is there?
stere0brain 4 months ago
@stere0brain by the 2000s i mean like pre 2010 back when shaq and duncan and garnett were in there prime and ben wallace and a lot of good players were the 4/5. maybe he would dominate the 2000s, but in the 90s? He would be playing a good center or power forward almost every night. there is no way he would score 50 game playing 90s basketball. im sorry.
austin78993 4 months ago
@austin78993 oh I agree about 50 ppg, 90s = slowest pace in history so far. Can't get points without touches.
90s though? To me, Shaq-Wilt is ultimate fantasy matchup but who else was going to stop him? Ewing? Ostertag? Rik Smits? Mike Gminski?
There was very few centers in the 90s actually. 30 teams, 4-5 great centers Shaq, Dream, D Rob, Ewing, Bill Cartwright.... that is 25 teams worth of easy nights for padding up the stats of elite players.
25 year old Kareem would have killed 90s too
stere0brain 4 months ago
@stere0brain Dennis Rodman, Dikembe Mutumbo, Alonzo Mourning, Karl Malone. Not all those guys are centers but other good players who were Big Men. You had a lot of competition at the 4 and 5 in the 90s. Wilt Still up against all those guys could have been better but no way he would have anything near 50 and 25.
austin78993 4 months ago
@austin78993 I already agreed about the 50. But it wouldn't have been because anybody stopped him.
stere0brain 4 months ago
@stere0brain Shaq is the only player who i think that matches Wilt in tenacity, grit, skills and power. i would have loved to have seen that matchup.................another matchup would have been Russell vs Hakeem
ODDNOMAD 4 months ago
@ODDNOMAD yeah of the last 20 years Shaq has been the peerless center, although Dream was also most monstrous and Shaq ranks him higher than himself.
Both Russell & Chamberlain respected Olajuwan greatly an that is saying a lot... only centers I ever heard Chamberlain talk about with respect after his peer group had retired was Shaq, Moses Malone, and Olajuwan, and even then he bashed Shaq a lot (like he did Kareem) for no rebounds and slack defense compared to what Shaq COULD have been doing.
stere0brain 4 months ago
@ODDNOMAD Shaq has almoust no skills and to say he matches Wilt in skills is just basketball ignorance . Wilt wasnt that tenacious at all , if he was tenacious like Shaq he would have been even better . Shaq has mass not power , Wilt had power couse he could bench press some unhuman weights with his mass.
garioldwin 3 months ago
no skills? Shaq? lol and im the one being called ignorant? c'mon man stop acting emotional.
ODDNOMAD 3 months ago
@ODDNOMAD Almoust no skills , i dont see no fingerolls, fadeaways , all i see is bullying his was to the basket with his mass . His mass is not a skill . Peope used to say Wilt was just bullying his way to the basket and dunked it while the videos show that it was other way around , he used his skills to score while they are enough stupid to not see Shaq is doing this today to score , bullying his way to the basket with almoust no skills .
garioldwin 3 months ago
The most unbreakable record in sports r all baseball records
BigTheNoodlez 5 months ago
@BigTheNoodlez Theres no centers today who could hold him. He was long and athletic,...not to mention unreal agility for a center. He's like a 7'1 Hakeem. Thats scary to think about. I don't know about 50 and 25. But I do think he would break scoring records for single games and the season.
NBAGOATS 5 months ago
he couldn't do this in todays game..especially average 50 and 25
GreenScreen619 5 months ago
@GreenScreen619 the game pace is too slow today, there's not enough possessions for him to get those numbers. Too much dribbling by point guards, not enough shooting. But there's nobody that could stop him.
Watching Wilt score over the Russell, Havlicek & Wayne Embry triple teams was just mind blowing.
1 play I remember was Pistons Dave DeBusschere, Jim Fox, Tommy van Arsdale & Happy Hairston all 4 guarding Wilt, he just jammed anyhow - and actually made the free throw too!
stere0brain 4 months ago
Can Kobe do it or Lebron James or Jordan in his prime?
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seros2010 6 months ago
wilt was so powerful, he dunked taking off from free throw line back then, if he got the ball within 10 feet,one step he was putting it in the basket.i never saw it but rumor had it he could touch top of the backboard when he was young.,he was a great leaper for a man over 7 foot tall..watch some of his early play in the nba,virtually unstopable,the way they beat chamberlains team was stop everyone else,like when jordan came up scored 40 points a game and they still lost !
mtzlypk 6 months ago
Kobe Bryant was once asked to compare his own basketball accomplishments and goals to that of another Lakers great, Wilt Chamberlain.
Kobe's response was a giddy, "C'mon, man, nobody can do what he did. Those are video game numbers."
ZipperZappleZ 6 months ago
I dont respect Wilt Chimberlain nor Bill Russel those era's were weak as..
L3g3ndkill4 6 months ago
wilt has many records which will probably never be broken;100 pt game,55 reb game,4000 pt season,50 pt avg season,career 60 pt games,career 50 point games and the only double triple-double in nba history 22pts,25 rebs,21 assists,72% fg shooting for a season
djwc6 7 months ago
why no love for kobe he came close in 2006 he could have scored 90 or 100 points on jan 22, 2006 but he sat out on the fourth quarter
SuperJoeblack87 7 months ago
@SuperJoeblack87 maybe because this post has nothing to do with Kobe?
It's like, why no love for George Gervin? Has nothing to do with it
stere0brain 6 months ago
@stere0brain well said that makes sense i was just curious and wondering but i think they still could have said kobe bryant came close of tying wilt chamberlain record but i understand what you are saying too it was all about wilt chamberlain epic performance on march 2, 1962 thanks for your input have a great day
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gtwnsports 7 months ago
Bevo Francis scored 116pts in the NCAA...
MrSquaky 7 months ago
@MrSquaky Chamberlain scored 90 points in a 24 minute game in high school, while the other team was freezing the ball
musikaNeues 6 months ago
The only way to beat that record is to have Kobe get one of them rediculous zones where he scores 30 points in a quarter. Then pray that he'll do that in 3 straight quarters. In the fourth have him score 11 more. Yup, impossible to beat.
Clutch3Ball 7 months ago
At the bottom of the video cav vs heat. James and wade when for forty
100pionts 7 months ago
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KOBE 81 WAS BETTER.
mangatons 7 months ago
Damn do you basketball fans even respect the history of the game? I guess not based on some of these comments
InFamous5823 7 months ago
Lol, Cavs vs Heat at the bottom of the screen :D
AlexisLashay100 7 months ago
You say he played in a week era.. You gotta understand that everyone in that time had the same amount of knowledge accessible. They didn't have all the stuff current day players do. Nutrition, coaches, techniques etc.
youn0itdude 7 months ago
KOBE 81 WAS BETTER.
StFuMoThErFuCkEr 7 months ago
@StFuMoThErFuCkEr Agianst Toronto? Give me a break
InFamous5823 7 months ago
@InFamous5823 ok, lets see if u can score 82 playin with d-league player? stfu, they are still nba player and above average.
StFuMoThErFuCkEr 7 months ago
@StFuMoThErFuCkEr I'm not taking anything away from Kobe Bryant that was an amazing performance but It does not compare to Wilt's 100 point game
InFamous5823 7 months ago
@StFuMoThErFuCkEr Lying is a sin!
AlexisLashay100 7 months ago
@tastycajun0381
thats why he's better then them
xnechix 7 months ago
Record will be unbeaten forever. Kobe couldn't even break it, he had 81 and is 2nd behind Wilts 100.
dagooda 7 months ago
@dagooda They all can be beaten. The right time, the right place, the right condition. They all can be beaten.
FireStormBaller 7 months ago
@FireStormBaller Well every record can technically be beaten, but I doubt this ever will unless the rules change so much and a player so dominant can get all his teammates to pass him the ball the entire game.
dagooda 7 months ago
IMMA BEAT DAT RECORD!!!!
bensworld81 7 months ago
@tastycajun0381 Nate the Great??!! Look up what Jabbar says about Nate - best defense he ever faced. And Jabbar played against a lot of great centers.
Thurmond was 6'11 275 lbs..... bigger than Dwight Howard - big as any C today outside of the five or six 7 footers. Seriously a bruising punishing guy. In the era of the center, he was 2nd or 3rd best in the league every year
musikaNeues 7 months ago 8
@tastycajun0381 lol nah go look at facts... check out basketball-reference website for example. Ya there was guys 6-1 but they were guards, same as today. Same as always. Just reality not myth. Fact is Wilt was NEVER the tallest guy in the league.
Just the best.
Ya gotta understand, there was only 8 & 10 teams, so naturally 8 & 10 centers.... Wayne Embry was the shortest C in the league at 6'8".... can't just go by what 20 year olds say, or ESPN... ESPN has no history before 1980
musikaNeues 7 months ago
@tastycajun0381 yeah Bob Lanier, Bill Russell, Nate Thurmond, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Walt Dukes, Willis Reed, Walt Bellamy, Wayne Embry - all little white guys 5'5" right?
If Wilt was playing TODAY there's only Z & Yao taller than him an he'd crush them down like a bug.
All those guys could seriously ball and all of them was taller than Dwight Howard is - except Embry and he was a freaking tree trunk nobody could move.
BOZO go learn something about it but meanwhile STFU
musikaNeues 7 months ago
@garioldwin I agree with you completely. Its difficult to get 4 assist is a game as a center
pimpgordito 7 months ago
Altought his 50ppg season record is incredible i think leading the nba in assists as a center is far more impressive than that .
garioldwin 7 months ago
@garioldwin
100% agree with your last comment!
Legend33Larry 7 months ago
Teams don't even have the opportunity to grab that many and 1 man would grab all of them? Pace of play is different, as is the game in general... when he grab 55 against Boston, his whole team took OVER 83TRB!
The pace of the game isn't the same period! Now, it's all about 23 second plays & a lot of jogging to 1/2 court set + perimeter shots! Back then, it was lots of fast breaks, right from the inbounds pass they RAN. Now, with sophisticated D, it is so easy to defend (fast-break)!
Legend33Larry 7 months ago
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Legend33Larry 7 months ago
When Wilt scored 100 points, the final score was 169-147 in regulation! Now, teams rarely scored over 110 points per game with overtime, even if they hit 47% of their field goal
Average team in the 60's: 42% FG, 116PPG VS
Average team in the 2000's: 47% FG, 101PPG
Wilt would never even come CLOSE to getting the 37+ FGA per game to average 70, nor are there that many rebounds available in today’s game to grab 55 (next).
Legend33Larry 7 months ago
@Legend33Larry I wanted to comment but then i saw it was you so it was pointless ,youre a moron if you dont like Wilt go post on Larry Bird vids or whoever you like .
garioldwin 7 months ago
anyone else notice they said he hit 28 of 32 free throws but on the paper it says 30 of 32?
holmes1989 8 months ago
@holmes1989 hes right its 28 of 32 free throws look at 0:06 . u looking at Field goal Made which is 36 not 30.
5abiJatt69 8 months ago
28/32 FT?l
SirWildDog 8 months ago
what is the shot in 0:58 called ?
I've seen it many times
tommy9882 8 months ago
@tommy9882 It's called the "dipper shot" if I'm not mistaken. I honestly think that's more unstoppable then kareems skyhook. How the hell are you supposed to stop a fast, quick, strong guy whos 7'1 but with a 7'6 wingspan suddenly stretching those long ass arms and "dipping" it in
jongib369 8 months ago
@jongib369 wow... more unstoppable than skyhook
But I just can't understand how the mechanic works
Do you palm the ball , stretch out and dip it in, or do you slide the ball out ur hand?
surely its a lost art of basketball
tommy9882 7 months ago
@tommy9882 well Ive never seen it blocked, but I have seen kareems hook blocked. anyways I'm pretty sure hes palming the ball when hes doing it out and literally just stretching it out and dipping it in. Most of the time anyway, theres alot of footage of him doing it in this video if I remember correctly, but a good example of it is at 23 seconds
watch?v=MLrMw3vvhQw&feature=fvst
jongib369 7 months ago
@tommy9882 It's a finger roll. Wilt scored thousands of points with it, over Thurmond, Russell, Lanier, Cowens, Jabbar.... It's not a lost art, Garnett, Scola, Gasol used it this season.
It's seldom used though, because your leap has to be terrifically explosive or it will get smothered.
A finger roll over the front of the rim is far more artistic than a dunk, watch Jerry West Gail Goodrich, Iceman, David Thompson back in the day.
stere0brain 7 months ago
@tommy9882 Wilt's finger roll was just deadly - his post up game was the complete arsenal.
His footwork was amazing & his strength overpowering. Center guarding him had to think about his spin move - original Dream Shake.
Will he come over the top with a power drive for the dunk... or is it a Pearl spin for an 8' jumper? Or is it a spin at all? He may take two dribbles away from you to the outside & float up his patented 15' turnaround fadeaway jumper.
Or finger roll over your head... ARRGH!!
stere0brain 7 months ago 18
@stere0brain It's one thing to be strong like Shaq or athletic like Jordan. But to be the strongest AND the most athletic in one man....pffft...forget about it! unstoppable!
Sage80 6 months ago
@stere0brain I never watched wilt, but how is it that he, probably THE most dominant force in nba history, could not lead a team to a championship
pingtv 6 months ago
@pingtv he did actually. twice
67 Sixers voted greatest team in history by NBA 35th Anniversary committee. Only team to beat the no-free-agency-stacked 60s Celtics - 76ers totally destroyed them. May have been the greatest team in history. Wilt had a quadruple double against the Celtics in the ECF,
The 72 Lakers are also in the argument as the greatest team in history. They still hold the professional sports record - 33 wins in a row. Laker Wilt was probably the GOAT defender.
stere0brain 6 months ago
@stere0brain The 67 Celtics were old and injured, but yes Wilt did lead sixers to the championship that year. So I was wrong. The 72 lakers were led by west, not wilt. The main thing I don't understand is why wilt can't play team basketball to win. And don't tell me about the season he led the league in assists. He did that just to lead the league in assists, not to help his team win
pingtv 6 months ago
@pingtv I hear that one a lot about assists. But Hal Greer, Wali Jones Coach Hannum, and Chet Walker have told an entirely different story about that. I wonder who knows, the mythmakers in the Boston press, or his teammates?
When Sharman finally got rid of Baylor, who had played 11 games in 2 season, Chamberlain was elected Captain and they proceeded that very day to win 33 in a row.
Check out what Wali Jones said about Wilt just earlier this week.........
stere0brain 6 months ago
@pingtv 76er website
S.C: You played with some of the greatest players in NBA history and have been around the game for a long time. Is Wilt the best player of all time?
WJ: In history. In the history of basketball, how could you question that? As an individual, he’s the greatest basketball player ever to put on sneaks.
stere0brain 6 months ago
@pingtv No that is all wrong. Chamberlain was Captain of the Lakers in 72, not Logo. He was a great guard no doubt about it but Chamberlain was the leader of that team.
I always thought he lost interest in basketball that last 73 season. He still had great skill but it seemed like he had no fire in the belly. He had nothing left to accomplish, and 40 years later his legacy is completely untouched.
Yeah other players have more rings cuz they had better teams around them.
Chamberlain = GOAT
ZipperZappleZ 5 months ago
@pingtv cuz it takes 5
vamountiger 5 months ago
@stere0brain
or just dunk on your head lol
lbj6mj23 3 months ago
@lbj6mj23 He broke a guy's foot once with a dunk. It was Johnny Red Kerr, who coached the Bulls in their expansion years and then called the games all through their Pippen Grant Rodman MJ glory years.
AND!! He separated a guy's shoulder with a blocked shot... it was Gus Johnson who was a true flier could jump out the house & really hoop but he made the mistake of getting Chamberlain mad. Wilt touched nothing but ball and crashed down so hard they hauled Johnson out like a casualty of war
stere0brain 3 months ago
@stere0brain How did you see him play?
DundrMifflin 3 months ago
@DundrMifflin Saw him with 76ers and then with the Lakers - of course on TV lots
Lakers were Game of the Week for years, but also at the old Forum, saw a game in Chicago, couple times in San Fran once in Seattle... I couldn't say how many games but it was quite a few over last 7 or 8 years of his career
Back then tickets weren't just stupid tho either not like now. It's greed more than sport but that is just the whole world it seems like.
stere0brain 3 months ago
@DundrMifflin it was kinda strange I lived in philly but moved to LA and boom all of a sudden he showed up in LA.
Those were days when music was everywhere. Not the same culture today most everything has changed but you could see a symphony or a rock concert like Rolling Stones or Doors or Joplin, or see the Lakers any of them for less than 10 bucks so you had to decide the evening entertainment and of course girls were girls in that day freewheeling no worry
of course that is nostalgia too
stere0brain 3 months ago
"Tell me were you in the joint, the night Wilt scored 100 points" - Kurtis Blow
CALICOTV301 9 months ago
how many points did he have at the end of the 4th?
dozrox 9 months ago
thumbs up if you are looking at the sports scores the entire time
rallychild1 9 months ago
Thing about Wilt, he could outrun your fastest guard then.
Ariamaluum 9 months ago
Defense was not invented yet
Eugene4251 9 months ago
....And 10 Women for each point.
onn1320 9 months ago
@AyeDGAF true. and there's also Steve Nash and Dirk.
hitdoctor24 9 months ago
00:8 PHILEDELPHIA WORS.
nightmarebeforeXmas8 9 months ago
@AyeDGAF i agree but there is still some white talent out there...oh wait, nevermind.
hitdoctor24 9 months ago
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imetyourmom123 10 months ago
I hope people started him in their fantasy league that day
TheManOfBlues 10 months ago
"the most dominant player of all time"
you know, besides bill russell
... number 6? celtics? guy who whooped wilts ass every time in the playoffs?
Treemeslave 10 months ago
@Treemeslave You mean Russell and his 8 other hall of famers he played with.
manimaduck 9 months ago
@manimaduck before u bring out the whole "Russell had more help" thing, wilt played with 6 of the top 50 players of all time. Bill played with 4.
Treemeslave 9 months ago
@Treemeslave He didnt play with them at the same time and 3 that I can think of were when he was 32 or older. Baylor was 34 when he started playing with Chamberlain, besides the fact that they were only on the court at the same time for about a season. He was also 34 when Goodrich came along. Hal Greer and Chet Walker he won one with. Paul Arizin was past his prime too. Besides Bill Russell played with those 8 hall of famers on one team. Your comparing Wilt playing on 3 teams with those
manimaduck 9 months ago
@Treemeslave Russell had all those hall of famers in the 62-63 season alone. He always had a team full of them. Wilt only played with a couple in there prime.
manimaduck 9 months ago
@manimaduck wilt played with elign baylor and jerry west for 4 seasons when russell was out of the season... and only won one championships.
Treemeslave 9 months ago
@Treemeslave Elgin Baylor or Wilt was injured during most of that time. So they had 1 full season together...West was there the whole time though, but still, not 8 hall of famers and if you have hall of famers on your team especially coming off the bench then thats a huge advantage
manimaduck 9 months ago
@manimaduck but wilt also played with hal greer and billy cunninghum, 2 underated hall of famers
Treemeslave 9 months ago
@Treemeslave He played with them for 3 years and won a title with him and this was Cunninghams first 3 years. But Im not so sure Hal Greer is underrated by most people who follow the game. Ive always thought he was up there, but thats besides the point.
manimaduck 9 months ago
Wilt was a stiff. He only dominated in a weak era. He wouldn't make the league today.
CuriosityRoads 10 months ago
@CuriosityRoads you're right, he wouldn't make the league today, I mean after all, dead people can't really play basketball
hitdoctor24 9 months ago
@hitdoctor24 I take it you're too dumb to know what a hypothetical is?
CuriosityRoads 9 months ago
@CuriosityRoads i take it you're a fucking idiot who doesn't know what a joke is?
hitdoctor24 9 months ago
@CuriosityRoads You're right he dominated in a weak era when almost every team had a couple hall of famers because the league was condensed so talent had to be put on a few teams. Plus he face Kareem who turned out to be a pretty good player. Plus he got a contract offered to him when he was 48 years old to play in 1984. but ya I guess you're expert opinion is valid.
manimaduck 9 months ago
@manimaduck. The reason he dominated because coaches didn't trust players over 6'7 of being fluid players. Even the team that drafted him only wanted him because of his height and nothing else. They looked at him like Mikan, a big thug. But Wilt forced the NBA teams to get players who were tall, skilled, and athletic. That is why you see player development in tall guys. Many tall guys fail when they come into the league but when a DW comes along, you stick with them.
Ariamaluum 8 months ago
@Ariamaluum There were a lot of good sub 6'7" guys back then. West, Baylor, Goodrich, Oscar, Havlicek, Cousy, Frazier, Sam Jones, and a a lot of others. The reason they drafted him was because he averaged 30-18 in college and his athleticism was out of this world. Even by todays standards he was still freaky. DW??? Dwayne Wade?? not sure what you mean there.
manimaduck 8 months ago
@manimaduck . Those guys that you mentioned were mostly guards and swingmen. The centers were Wayne Embry, Clyde Lovellette, Zelmo Beatty, Jerry Lucas, Willis Reed, Nate Thurmond, and Walt Bellamy. They weren't leapers until Joe Caldwell came along but he guarded the swingman. Really, until Elvin Hayes came, nobody could match with Wilt. Finally, Kareem but Wilt was on the decline and he wasn't a jumper. Only Bill Russell could.
Ariamaluum 8 months ago
@Ariamaluum I thought you meant just 6'7" guys in general. Russell could hardly even defend Wilt. He did post 55 rebounds on him. Even today though you dont have that many great leapers who are 7 foot. The ones that do dont have technique like Javale Mcgee. Most of the great 7 foot athletes are defensive players only, but Im sure Wilt would still school a lot of them. Elvin Hayes came into the league when Wilt was only averaging 20 PPG.
manimaduck 8 months ago
@manimaduck. Very true on Russell. But by having Havlicek teams couldn't match up with him concerning the swingman position on offense and defense.
Ariamaluum 8 months ago
@Ariamaluum Nate Thurmond & Bells not leapers? Them guys could jump out the house and Nate's reach was 4 or 5 inches more than Wilt's, so was Russell's who was a world class high jumper, ranked 7th in the world
Freakish long arms both those guys
musikaNeues 6 months ago
@musikaNeues. Them two were exception but if they got into foul trouble, Mel Counts, Darrell Imhoff, and them types came in. Bells was a leaper but once he got to New York and had weight trouble, he was a banger. Most jumpers then were explosive for 4 or 5 years. That is what makes Wilt special that he can run and jump for almost 10 years. Ironically, the year of Wilt was the rookie season of Walt Bellamy who did play Wilt tough but not other guys. Nate came in 1963 with Wilt as his teammate.
Ariamaluum 6 months ago
@Ariamaluum Great as he was in his scoring years, to me the most impressive season in history is the '67 season.
Chamberlain, so-called ball hog, worked happily with coach Hannum in an all round role.
24 points 24 rebounds 8 assists for the regular season, &
21.7 points 29.1 rebounds 9.0 assists in the playoffs!!
Those are AMAZING all-round numbers & prove the lies that he was a bad teammate or a ballhog. He ALWAYS did what his coach wanted
Not even Magic at his best comes anywhere close
musikaNeues 6 months ago
@Ariamaluum agree about the 4 or 5 years.... sports medicine was primeval. Knee injuries stopped almost every player, in every sport.
Joe Namath, Mickey Mantle, Elgin Baylor, Gale Sayers, Dick Butkus.... Wilt too. He came back from knee surgery with great vertical, but his lateral was never the same.
The list is endless from those days & there was nothing the doctors could do. Nowadays all those guys would come out of the doctor's office like a shiny new penny.
Yep, 4 or 5 years that was it
musikaNeues 6 months ago
@musikaNeues. The reason why Wilt lasted longer than others because Wilt was sports medicine himself before the study was invented. He studied it while as a track athlete in Kansas and then as a horse trainer. Seeing the films, he jumped with the same routine, well-balanced, and well-timed. He also knew if he was hurt and how to nurse himself back from injury. Coaches, trainers, and doctros didn't give that kind of respect. He was the one who forced second opinions of doctors and trainers.
Ariamaluum 6 months ago
@Ariamaluum Sharp guy. His real estate investments made him a multi-millionaire in the days when the top NBA players were earning 60,000 - 100,000 a year - he was WAY ahead of anybody else in a lot of areas of the profession.
He invented the NBA payday beginning with his first season and players to this day get the benefit of what he did 50 years ago.
musikaNeues 6 months ago
@musikaNeues. Those things actually started in his first year in the NBA. The NBA had a unwritten cap rule where they wouldn't pay a star player over 100,000 dollars. But Wilt had a nightclub in Harlem where he made over a 100,000 dollars. So when he didn't get want he wanted from the owners, he would simply threaten to retire or jump leagues. Publicly, it was said he made 100,000 dollars but was paid more under the table as long as Wilt didn't say anything. But other players got wind of it.
Ariamaluum 6 months ago
@Ariamaluum HoF Jerry Lucas was the big choice out of the college ranks in the early 60s, turned down NBA, signed with George Steinbrenner's ABL team for 40,000.. ABL went broke, Lucas sat out the year.
One of the greats to ever play, Lucas was a key reason the Knicks won in 73, dropping 30 foot shot puts over a 37 year old Wilt.
Late 70s Chamberlain said Lucas was the only player he had ever feared. As a Laker, Wilt could no longer guard outside, his lateral was ruined from his knee injury
musikaNeues 6 months ago
@Ariamaluum When Lucas saw Wilt was able to guard him out to 20 feet, Jerry went back to 25, and then was shooting THIRTY FOOTERS. He pushed the ball off his right shoulder just like he put the shot in high school and they were going in. Who does that?
As far as I know, Walt Frazier was the first to use the word "rainbow" about a high arcing shot. He was talking about those 30 footers.
Even from that far out, Jerry was lofting the ball to the lights so Wilt Chamberlain wouldn't block his shot
musikaNeues 6 months ago
@Ariamaluum Little known facts of his trade to the Lakers - at least, to Bill Simmons, who apparently can't do simple research when he writes drivel.
Wilt was offered part ownership of the 76ers. When the owner died, the new owner reneged. In a rage, Wilt forced the 76ers to trade him to LA, or he would go to the ABA. Faced with a trade or nothing, they made the deal.
Today people think players are sharp businessmen for making good deals.
Wilt gets bashed for it, but he invented it!!
musikaNeues 6 months ago
@CuriosityRoads The funny thing is that people think the league is harder today than it was then.
Yet scoring champs still average the same 30 ppg that they did in the 60s, 70s, 80s, & 90s.
Of the top 10 scorers in NBA history, only 2 played in the 60s. Of the other 8, 5 played in the 90s-00s, the others all played all or almost all of their NBA time in the 80s.
If the 60s was such a weak time, according to you, then how come all these 90s-00s guys have more points than Oscar & Wilt????
musikaNeues 6 months ago
Would you rather score everything like lebron or be like russel with all the rings??? i like 1.0 ppg and all rings..lol
TheMURDERVILLE 10 months ago
@TheMURDERVILLE rings don't mean you're a good player, stats mean you're a good player. stats AND rings mean you're a great player
hitdoctor24 9 months ago
@hitdoctor24
Stupid idot i never said rings meant a good player!! I said what would you rather have and i like the rings! as a joke!!
TheMURDERVILLE 9 months ago
@TheMURDERVILLE i said it as a joke too cause i knew you were joking...lmao
hitdoctor24 9 months ago
@hitdoctor24
i know lol
TheMURDERVILLE 9 months ago
@hitdoctor24 Chamberlain has 72 major records and 2 rings.
Not piddly records like 'youngest player to reach 10,000 points' but records like 'top season scoring average; 1 wilt 2 wilt 3 wilt...'
ZipperZappleZ 6 months ago
@ZipperZappleZ uh ok? never really asked but alright
hitdoctor24 6 months ago
@mussaobad so he scored more than 100 points if they used today's scoring method?
gibbsquamain 10 months ago
A carreer average of 23 rebounds per game won't be broken either. Along with any player having a 70 point, 40 rebound game. Jordan could score a lot of points. So could Wilt. Wilt during his carreer led the league in scoring, FG%, rebounding, blocks, and in one season asists. No one came close to dominating a game from both sides of the court. No other player ever had a 20+ pt, 20+ rebound, 20+ assist game. WIlt also had plenty of 10+ block games which weren't counted back then.
reno93535 10 months ago
@reno93535 but what about his EIGHT 40 40 games? Nobody ever did that either
What about blocking Kareem's skyhook? Nobody ever did that either
musikaNeues 6 months ago
@AyeDGAF Players were smarter back then. They are worse funadamentally today. A slow and relatively short white guy leads the league in rebounds today. Steve Nash leads the league in assists since he's been in the league. And many less athletic European teams with no black players have beaten teams made up of NBA players in recent world championship games. Argentina, Spain, Greece, Lituania. My point is NBA players are more athletic today, but they can't shoot or play team ball.
reno93535 10 months ago
I don't understand why everyone is comparing back then to now. Jerry rice would probably not be as good now as he was back then. Night Train Lane would not be as good as he was today. I bet in 20 years when perhaps Kobe Bryant is inducted into the hall of fame, we will be saying Kobe wouldn't be as could as he today as he was back then. Let's enjoy the record not say it wouldn't be broken today.
grateman10 10 months ago
Let's try and see if Kobe can do this.
narutofanatic0999 10 months ago
At 0:25 Cavs wining the Heat..whart a moments
TheGamer722 10 months ago
As good as he was he stood under the ring (no 3 second rule back then) and stole other peoples points with offensive goaltending 2 points + 1 rebound. Perfect example is at 0:48 in this clip.
They didnt have many tall players back then and the game has evolved so much thesedays he wouldnt do half as good against todays defense. Dwight Howard could probly shut him down.
Jamage007 10 months ago
@Jamage007 The offensive 3 second rule existed since the 1936. Goaltending became a violation in 1944. , and offensive goaltending in 1958. Chamberlain came into the league in 1960 . You dont know anyting about nba history , you should focus on some other subjects but definately not nba history .
garioldwin 10 months ago
@Jamage007 So many nuts have said there was no 3 second rule when Wilt played. Do some research. 3 sec rule was enacted in '46. They had tall players back then. Bill Russell and others. When Wilt was past his prime, he blocked 6 of Kareem's (7'2") shots in one game. Dwight Howard can't shoot outside of 5 feet. Wilt had a jumper out to 12. Wilt was a lean 300 and would beat the crap out of Dwight Howard. Howard doesn't even lead the league in rebounds. A slow shorter white dude does.
reno93535 10 months ago
@Jamage007 Wow you must not watch basketball... 0:48 wasnt offensive goaltending....offensive goaltending is when the ball is on the rim and they push it in. Goaltending was already illegal by this time too. As far as height Dwight Howard is 6'11" and the average center was 6'10" and the average player was 6'6" today its 6'7" not big of a difference. 5 People in the league were taller than Wilt at 7'1" Shawn Bradley is 7'6" and didnt dominate. They were fouled much harder back then too.
manimaduck 9 months ago
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Dear god, if you give us Wilt Chamberlain back you can have Bieber. Amen.
cceezzaaa 11 months ago
Shouts out to the Big Dipper, a.k.a Wilt Chamberlain for this unbelievable accomplishments.
You'll never be forgotten by the die hard, knowledgable, longtime fans of the sport. U were definitely 1 of a kind..
blackadam06 11 months ago 6
yu guys gotta remember, the scoring system was different..it was by 1's and 2's...
mussaobad1 11 months ago
It was a mistake he scored 10.
561MuckCityPK561 11 months ago
@561MuckCityPK561 just because you dont get to play on ur basketball team dsnt mean u gotta hate on wilt
SlayerJJG17 11 months ago
remember this was before the 3 seconds rule....
ChamPeter 11 months ago
@ChamPeter Wrong. Research.
reno93535 10 months ago
just to show u how hard it is to score 100 points in a game ive played 12 minute quarters in a NBA2k11 and i still cant score 100 points with one player
XxballertownXx 11 months ago
@XxballertownXx Thats in a game. Ived scored well over 140 with a player in NBA LIVE 10, but that means nothing when compared to RL
dansvidco 11 months ago
@dansvidco exactly thats the point its nothin compared to real life
XxballertownXx 11 months ago
55 rebounds will never be broken either
karlwinfried 11 months ago