@JanetUSA I understand the feeling. I didn't like what he said at all, but I thought people should hear it. Obama says he never heard certain principles at Wright's church, but this was basic to the theology of the church. He HAD to know.
I know you don't want to "like" this video. But it needs to be seen. So how about liking it because you want others to know what this man believes? Main Stream Media will not tell people. So we have to.
@bookhound63 Of course. I forgot all about how the system works. Thanks for getting the word out. I forwarded this to a lot of people who really have no idea.
I just want to say one thing. This guy is a nut case!! As a former youth pastor (and I am black, so one can say that I am prejudice) this guy (I can not call him reverand) is either misinform or on purpose twisting the Scriptures (I chose the later) and leading his 'flock" straight to hell. And I thought that Jim Wallis was a nut case! I will look for this "sermon". Do anyone know the title on it??
@regdawgformerusmc Its a Lecture and its called The Real Jeremiah Wright Upclose and Personal. Part 1 of 19 is in the related videos section on this page. Second video in the list.
'Black Liberation Theology' is Marxist and Extremely Racist.
KKK was Democrats. Lincoln and Martin Luther King were Republicans.
Democrat Policies Keep People Down, While They Take Other Peoples' Tax Money to Give to Those they are Keeping Down, Which Only Perpetuates Them Staying Down in order to Keep Getting HandOuts. It Is a Perpetual Vicious Cycle.
So, 20 years under this man doesn't reveal who obama is???? I thought it did back in 2007 and I still say it does! Hates America and is muslim at heart of his black theology CULT!
I mean good grief! He claims the names Angel Food Cake and Devil's food Cake mean something racial because Angelfood is white and Devilsfood is chocolate. Really? THEY ARE CAKE! They BOTH taste good. We ALL like them.
And what is this about Jesus being a "Junior God" and his name being interchangable with Mohamed? WHAT?
Youtube now tells me this has been viewed by 753 people with a constant question mark beside it. I wonder how many people have really viewed it and why youtube won't tell me. Is it because youtube hates Israel? Or just because they love Obama?
ronptech, do you go to Trinity Church? Then maybe you can tell us who REALLY killed Donald Young. Was he a good Choir Director? Does the church miss him? Too bad his murder has gone unsolved for a whole year.
Yes I attend Trinity UCC services via the Internet. I don't live in Chicago and I don't know anything about the murder of Donald Young other than what appeared in the newspapers and mentioned during the following Sunday's services. Trinity's choirs were incredible under his leadership and remains so today in my opinion. Yes, it's unfortunate the murder remains unsolved. Welcome to the south side of Chicago, where unsolved homicides are all too common.
Research Larry Sinclair, he was in contact with Donald Young shortly before he died. Their discussions were about Obama and his homosexual tendencies. I guess Obama didn't want THAT to get out.
You're making the assertion, thus have the responsibility to support it with credible scholarly evidence. It otherwise remains in the bucket of not interesting and speculative conjecture.
Interesting reply from someone claiming to hold a masters degree in sociology. It appears you might begin by being your own research assistant. You made the claim regarding conversations between Larry Sinclair and Donald Young, not me.
Since your comments in these videos are consistently no more than innuendo and rumor, not representative of accepted academic standards of credibility, they warrant neither my time nor interest of further exploration.
The strategy of publishing complete sermons and lectures is consistent with the spirit of scholarship where primary sources provide students with direct, unmediated information about the object of study. Thanks to the Internet and youtube honest students are now better able to discern and find truth, even through the mines of distraction; uneducated commentary and sound bites placed by the likes of Fox News and bookhound63.
ron, I saw no need to repost your entire 2 and 1/2 hour video, I clearly told people where they could find the entire lecture. ON YOUR CHANNEL, So get off your high horse.
My point about and reference to your contribution came after the semi-colon. "...uneducated commentary and sound bites placed by the likes of Fox News and bookhound63."
Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community
These are the words of James Cone the founder of BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY,the theology that has inspired Obama for 20+ yrs.Obama is NOT A CHRISTIAN,HE IS A BLACK PANTHER Racist
Excuse me, but "know your enemy" is still excellent advise. How do you know how to fight the enemy, if you don't know where they are coming from? What they are thinking?
Ostriches are simple creatures, their size is intimidating and they can run like hell, but when they get scared they bury their heads in the sand. America needs to open it's eyes and see the real enemy. Political correctness will KILL this nation if people don't wake up.
Listen to your video again BOOKhound63. Toward the end of the excerpt you chose Wright said he was talking about what the Saudis and Arab world were saying about the United States and Israel. And by the way I got your handle right in the first place in that post. I just typed quickly and typed bloodhound by accident as I made my point in regard to the video. Instead of focusing on a simple error like that perhaps you ought to listen to the excerpt again and see the mistake you made.
Wright was quoting the Saudi's. Bookhound63 didn't even listen to what she put up. Wright has NEVER said Israel is illegal. He was pointing out what various parts of the Arab world were saying after 9-11 about America's support for Israel. Bloodhound63---you ought to listen a bit more carefully to what he is saying. If you approach the presentation believing he is a bigot you will never grasp Wright's message and what he is all about. Good luck.
Obama said, Wright "expressed a profoundly distorted view of this country -- a view that sees white racism as endemic, and that elevates what is wrong with America above all that we know is right with America, a view that sees the conflicts in the Middle East as rooted primarily in the actions of stalwart allies like Israel, instead of emanating from the perverse and hateful ideologies of radical Islam.
Umm I don't care what Obama said. Obama while the best choice among the three remaining candidates is still a politician. And besides, Obama has said he hasn't heard the entire sermons as well. He was condemning the "soundbites" that "people found offensive". Regardless of what Obama said about Wright my point is that Wright is neither racist or anti-semitic. Anyone who actually takes the time to LISTEN to him will figure that out quickly. It is too bad that most won't take the time to do so.
In 2 speeches and an interview with PBS and Trumpet magazine we have had plenty to listen to of Wright's lush analytical context of his entire sermons.
America is like Al Qida? That's the full context that is supposed to make everyone feel better? The longer versions are no better. I've heard enough, Obama has heard enough, America has heard enough. Only those that can not accept the truth - left brain problem? - want to hear longer versions of his rants.
Whatever Kodac81...My point is that Wright is not racist or anti-semetic...Believe what you want...I really don't care...You can dismiss what he says by characterizing them as "rants" all you want if it makes you feel better...but it will never make your opinion more valid by doing so...
My education and brain are just fine CBALLEN. You have no need to worry. Our respective interpretations of Wright's politics are simply incompatible. Believe what you want about Wright and I will do the same. Attempting to insult people you disagree with politically (particularly over the internet)is not only lame but it will never win you an argument. Take care.
My point exactly, I'm glad to see there are other ppl who understand this very significant point. Politicians NEEEEED to appeal to a broad audience and even though privately they may hold some eccentric beliefs, like any of us, they need to appeal to the broad base. This isn't to say that all politicians are liars and opportunists, it's simply the reality of that trade. I personally find a lot (but not all) of what J Wright says to be accurate. It's a good thing I'm not running for office.
Then what is your point? The presentation was quite interesting and informative and shows that Wright is quite thoughtful and definitely not anti-semitic or racist. His presentation also showed that Christians, Jews and Muslims could get along by elevating the dialogue between them. That was the main point of it in its entirety. I encourage everyone to take the time to watch it. It is well worth it to check out ronptech 's page and view the whole presentation by Wright.
Her point was to create a venue where the ignorant, the bigoted, and the racist could continue their lies that Wright is a racist and an anti-semite. Which is interesting because semite means a person of color. Funny huh? There it is.
I just posted what the man said, I didn't comment on it or distort it. He called Israel an illegal nation. I didn't put words in his mouth. I also included the name of the original videos and the poster. I encourage people to watch ronptech's videos.
Actually you did. You just didn't do it hear but you did do it on other blogs that made it seem like you discovered something new that Wright had said. You strung together quotes from seperate parts of lectures without noting the context or the references Wright was making. This still a blatant attempt to smear the man and you should be ashamed of yourself. You hate muslims and that's the problem and anyone that supports them.
Nice try Bookhound...However if one takes the time to listen to whole thing (I HAVE) they will see that he is hardly anti-semitic or racist. You can cut up and edit videos however you want but it will never make your assertions about Wright correct. He was clearly talking about Saudi Arabia (where the majority of the 9-11 hijackers came from) and the Arab world being opposed to U.S. foreign policy. How exactly does that constitute hate speech on the part of Wright? Let me help you out. It don't.
Nice try, but I didn't say it was hate speech. My point is that this man is SUPPOSED to be a CHRISTIAN preacher. Christians don't refer to Mohamed and Jesus as an interchangable "Junior" God. Nor do they call for the US to stop supporting Israel. True, I didn't watch it all. Just the first HOUR AND A HALF, but don't worry I am working on the rest.
It took Obama 20 years to notice that his pastor is a traitorous, racist nut-job. Obama admitted that his relationship with Rev. Wright is "a legitimate political issue," which at least makes him smarter than John McCain, who denounced the North Carolina Republicans for an ad mentioning Obama's raving lunatic pastor.
One would think so, but if Barack wasn't soaking it up like a sponge, his wife sure was. I would have understood if she had said, "I am more proud than I've ever been of America" but to say she had NEVER been proud of America? Sounds like she's been listening.
Yes the Wright influence really shows up in his wife. I feel sorry especially for the young people that are indoctrinated with that type of disrespect for white people and black people that don't fit Wright's mold. One has to wonder how they will interact with white policmen and other officials as they go through life. I wonder about Obama's children.
Though not as extreme the indoctrination of the young reminds one of the the Islamic Madreasas that we see on TV
The Trail of Tears pisses me off. But, I am a Native American with a College education. I have a roof over me, food to eat. I can go where I want, be what I want, whenever I want. (within the law, but I haven't had a desire to kill or rob anyone lately so, I'm good.) I like America! In fact I LOVE America, I love her principles. I love her Constitution. I love her freedom. We have had a rocky past, but think! It's only been 200 years! We are a young nation. And we've come SO FAR!
Well said. America does not compare well to the righteousness of God but she does compare well with other nations. We can pick out the worst of America's history and ignore the moral differences between her and her enemies if we wish; or we can be thankful for the blessing of living in America. We are blessed and the rest of the world knows it.
bookhound63: The trail of tears should piss you off. Cherokees tried to assimilate into the white world 200 years ago, it didn't work then it doesn't work now. That's the part you are missing. I too love the constitution, however we have not been practicing the constitution ever. We have a rocky present too. So tell me how do you reconcile yourself with the policies of the Department of the Interior, when you know the trail of tears was retaliation for John Horse?
Are you kidding? Many Americans are descendants of Cherokee. For those obsessed with race and ethnicity, one can add up all the fractions of Cherokee heritage and discover that there are more cherokee living today as assimilated Americans than ever lived.
Brigitte Gabriel said, "As a victim of Islamic terror, I was amazed when I saw Americans waking up on September 12, 2001, and asking themselves "Why do they hate us?" The psychoanalyst experts were coming up with all sort of excuses as to what did we do to offend the Muslim World. But if America and the West were paying attention to the Middle East they would not have had to ask the question. Simply put, they hate us because we are defined in their eyes by one simple word: "infidels."
Oh it's worse than that. Wright is explaining the entire history of jews, muslims and christians and how everything is today based on what actually happened. She took clips without explaining the actual context in which he was talking about. Ignoring that muslims jews and christians are ALL from the same family and we all love God.
If we are all the same family and we all love God. Then why does Radical Islam want to kill Israel AND us? I posted excerpts because the whole thing is 3 hours long. I also told you exactly where to find the lecture in it's entirety. I HOPE people will watch the whole thing, that's why I posted it.
For the same reason that christian fundementalists and Orthodox Jews have little tolerance for anyone different. It's sad but it's true. that Wright is saying Jesus and Mohamad is interchangable. He is speaking of the relationship to God as it relates to the people that perceive God. You are doing the same thing fox news did which is disengenuous at best.
Having "little tolerance" as you call it is not the same as BEHEADING people you disagree with. Jesus and Mohamed are NOT interchangable. Jesus said, "I am the way the truth and the life NO MAN cometh unto the Father but by ME." He didn't say ME or my buddy Mohamed.
That's Christianity. If you don't want to believe in Jesus as Lord. You don't have to. No one is going to cut your head off for it.
Muslims can believe whatever they want. I DON'T CARE. Just don't tell me I have to convert or DIE.
"She took clips without explaining the actual context "
America is like Al Qida? That's the full context that is supposed to make everyone feel better? Why do Rev. Wright's supporters think it helpful to hear longer versions of the "snippets"?
And along with Trumpet magazine, I think there is much much more.
kodac81: First of all it's wass not in full context. I listened to that sermon and he was talking about some muslims want to convert non-muslims at gun point and said we have done the same thing. He was quoting scripture donnot look at the spec in my eye before you remove the beam from yours. You all keep playing this man of God and God will show you something really unpleasant. I hope you can handle it.
Are you not aware that people have freedom of worship in America? You and Wright want to believe the worst about America while overlooking the moral differences between her and her enemies. How long do you think that the Revereand would be allowed to rant in the Muslim Word?
kodac81: Really? Go and tell that to the indians that can't ghost dance. I find it ironic that the Amish can live a life seperate for the most part from the US government intrusion but the native Americans can't. Like I said before you don't know what you are talking about. Freedoms in this country are only applied in relation to the white american. That's the truth, and if you can't deal with it then that's too bad. Full context isn't a lie. continued
Law 101: Tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Anything less is a lie. That's been your problem all along kodac81: You lie as if it is the truth and it's not.
You don't know what you are talking about. Native Americans who chose to live on a Reservation have their own law enforcement and Judges. American police don't even have jurisdiction on a Res. In states where gambling is illegal, the Res. can have casinos.
As for the Ghost Dance, it was invented as a form of revolt by ONE group of Native Americans, in the 1800s, the Lakota, better known as Sioux. I am Cherokee and we never had a "ghost dance", but we have a GREAT Casino.
those ghost Indians must have really gotten the Reverend Wright upset. Obama said of Wright's comments: "All it was, was a bunch of rants that aren't grounded in truth"
I guess Obama doesn't know the injustice that America has done to the ghost Indians :-)
I guess not, and you know what else? You know who's cheating the Native Americans now? Their Chiefs, their leaders. The government thought it would be a good idea to allow Casinos on Reservations. They thought it would give the tribes revenue, and help them improve their living conditions. Instead, their leaders steal the money and get rich, while leaving their brothers in poverty. Sounds kind of like the Africans who sold other Africans into slavery. (continued)
bookhound63: I am part Cherokee. You don't know what you are talking about. The US government has forbidden native Americans to ghost dance on their sacred land. Secondly, the police have never respected tribal boundries and any federal officer can enter reservation land with impunity. continued.
Ghost dance. A ceremonial religious dance connected with the messiah doctrine, which originated among the Paviotso in Nevada about 1888, and spread rapidly among other tribes until it numbered among its adherents nearly all the Indians of the interior basin, from Missouri river to or beyond the Rockies.
The prophet of the religion was a young Paiute Indian, at that time not yet 35 years of age, known among his own people as Wovoka ('Cutter'), and 'commonly called by the whites Jack Wilson, from having worked in the family of a ranchman named Wilson.
bookhound63: The US hasn't left the Arab world alone for the last 52 years. If we had they wouldn't be angry now. So don't hand me that nonsense. You hate muslims plain and simple. I listened to your other posts and I have read quite a few too. Leave those people alone. They will find their way to God. I would be more concerned about my own soul if I were you.
You're right. How could I have been so stupid? I'm always carrying signs that say "Behead those who insult Christianity." and "Death to Muslims". I regularly seek out and MURDER anyone who disagrees with me. I tell Muslims all the time that they must convert or die. OH PLEASE! Give me a break.
Since you like to read, get a copy of "Because They Hate" by Brigitte Gabriel, an Arab Christian from Lebanon. Read how she drank her own blood, ate grass and lived in a bomb shelter for 7 years to survive
Did you here that? "And until you all stop that, we're gonna kill them." And what will they do AFTER we stop supporting Israel? Throw them a party? NO! THEY WILL KILL THEM! People talk about hate THIS IS HATE!
bookhound63: I find it interesting that you selected this section of text without the pre-cursor before or after. I also find it interesting in spite of the fact, what Jeremiah Wright said was true, you are calling him anti-semetic. I am totally aware of US involvement in the displacing of the Palestinians at the hands of the Israelites. It's not anti-semetic what it is anti-oppression. Israel has treated the Palestinians very badly over the last 5 decades.
Well, I'm not going to post the whole 3 hours. It's already posted. Also, I told you exactly where to find it so people can listen to the whole thing for themselves. I ENCOURAGE people to watch the whole thing. That's why I made the video.
I know where you got this from. I have that sermon. He is discussing the Isaac and Ishmael. If you know the story then you know both groups are founded as children of abraham or abram.
Who cares about some two bit pastor nobody knows. Obamas just another israelo-fascist sell out...antiSemitism is almost always justified...'Save America, nuke israel!
Where is the hate button. I can't press the "like" button because this man infuriates me.
JanetUSA 1 year ago
@JanetUSA I understand the feeling. I didn't like what he said at all, but I thought people should hear it. Obama says he never heard certain principles at Wright's church, but this was basic to the theology of the church. He HAD to know.
I know you don't want to "like" this video. But it needs to be seen. So how about liking it because you want others to know what this man believes? Main Stream Media will not tell people. So we have to.
bookhound63 1 year ago
@bookhound63 Of course. I forgot all about how the system works. Thanks for getting the word out. I forwarded this to a lot of people who really have no idea.
JanetUSA 1 year ago
Arab wide? Thats great, lets take care of this problem. It really wouldn't take much to rid this world of Arab radicals.
TheIAchilles 1 year ago
Of course we know that this man isn't a Christian. Black Liberation Theology is not Christian at all.
Further, if one truly be Christian, it is blasphemy to equate Christ, who IS God, to Mohammed, a pedophile who promotes violence and murder.
Indeed, this reveals who he truly is--(Jeremiah Wright), and by association, Barack Hussein Obama.
GammaSigmaBeta 1 year ago
He needs to stop calling him self "reverand"
computerpurple 1 year ago
THIS IS WHY OBAMA IS STILL A MUSLIM - BECAUSE HE WENT TO A RETARDED IGNORANT CHURCH TO 'FIND JESUS'
THIS MAN IS A RACIST AND WILL BURN IN HELL
BlessedONE333returnz 1 year ago
I just want to say one thing. This guy is a nut case!! As a former youth pastor (and I am black, so one can say that I am prejudice) this guy (I can not call him reverand) is either misinform or on purpose twisting the Scriptures (I chose the later) and leading his 'flock" straight to hell. And I thought that Jim Wallis was a nut case! I will look for this "sermon". Do anyone know the title on it??
regdawgformerusmc 1 year ago
@regdawgformerusmc Its a Lecture and its called The Real Jeremiah Wright Upclose and Personal. Part 1 of 19 is in the related videos section on this page. Second video in the list.
bookhound63 1 year ago
@bookhound63 will finish checking it out. Take care
regdawgformerusmc 1 year ago
jerrie is Not a Christian - he Proves that by Dissing the Bible, and by Admiring the koran, a Very Violent book written by 1 person, a Pervert.
3martijns 1 year ago
'Black Liberation Theology' is Marxist and Extremely Racist.
KKK was Democrats. Lincoln and Martin Luther King were Republicans.
Democrat Policies Keep People Down, While They Take Other Peoples' Tax Money to Give to Those they are Keeping Down, Which Only Perpetuates Them Staying Down in order to Keep Getting HandOuts. It Is a Perpetual Vicious Cycle.
3martijns 1 year ago
So, 20 years under this man doesn't reveal who obama is???? I thought it did back in 2007 and I still say it does! Hates America and is muslim at heart of his black theology CULT!
daisymom4 1 year ago
@daisymom4 Yeah, I posted this more than two years ago and people didn't listen.
bookhound63 1 year ago
@daisymom4 Thanks, I will share this!
NWsubmom 1 year ago
@NWsubmom Thanks for sharing it.....it's one I wish would go viral!
daisymom4 1 year ago
I mean good grief! He claims the names Angel Food Cake and Devil's food Cake mean something racial because Angelfood is white and Devilsfood is chocolate. Really? THEY ARE CAKE! They BOTH taste good. We ALL like them.
And what is this about Jesus being a "Junior God" and his name being interchangable with Mohamed? WHAT?
bookhound63 1 year ago
Youtube now tells me this has been viewed by 753 people with a constant question mark beside it. I wonder how many people have really viewed it and why youtube won't tell me. Is it because youtube hates Israel? Or just because they love Obama?
bookhound63 1 year ago
I posted this a year and a half ago. I guess it was only a matter of time before people started to notice.
bookhound63 2 years ago
Jeremiah Write is insane
crater3k 2 years ago
obama is black panther racist is right, oh thats ok hes not a white pride, double standard usa
pscho69 3 years ago
ronptech, do you go to Trinity Church? Then maybe you can tell us who REALLY killed Donald Young. Was he a good Choir Director? Does the church miss him? Too bad his murder has gone unsolved for a whole year.
bookhound63 3 years ago
Yes I attend Trinity UCC services via the Internet. I don't live in Chicago and I don't know anything about the murder of Donald Young other than what appeared in the newspapers and mentioned during the following Sunday's services. Trinity's choirs were incredible under his leadership and remains so today in my opinion. Yes, it's unfortunate the murder remains unsolved. Welcome to the south side of Chicago, where unsolved homicides are all too common.
Where are you going with this?
ronptech 3 years ago
Research Larry Sinclair, he was in contact with Donald Young shortly before he died. Their discussions were about Obama and his homosexual tendencies. I guess Obama didn't want THAT to get out.
bookhound63 3 years ago
You're making the assertion, thus have the responsibility to support it with credible scholarly evidence. It otherwise remains in the bucket of not interesting and speculative conjecture.
ronptech 3 years ago
Dude, look it up. I am not your research assistant.
bookhound63 3 years ago
Interesting reply from someone claiming to hold a masters degree in sociology. It appears you might begin by being your own research assistant. You made the claim regarding conversations between Larry Sinclair and Donald Young, not me.
Since your comments in these videos are consistently no more than innuendo and rumor, not representative of accepted academic standards of credibility, they warrant neither my time nor interest of further exploration.
I guess we'll just leave it at that!
ronptech 3 years ago
wow! you is a moron!
PISSMUTHA 2 years ago
The strategy of publishing complete sermons and lectures is consistent with the spirit of scholarship where primary sources provide students with direct, unmediated information about the object of study. Thanks to the Internet and youtube honest students are now better able to discern and find truth, even through the mines of distraction; uneducated commentary and sound bites placed by the likes of Fox News and bookhound63.
ronptech 3 years ago
ron, I saw no need to repost your entire 2 and 1/2 hour video, I clearly told people where they could find the entire lecture. ON YOUR CHANNEL, So get off your high horse.
bookhound63 3 years ago
My point about and reference to your contribution came after the semi-colon. "...uneducated commentary and sound bites placed by the likes of Fox News and bookhound63."
ronptech 3 years ago
Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community
These are the words of James Cone the founder of BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY,the theology that has inspired Obama for 20+ yrs.Obama is NOT A CHRISTIAN,HE IS A BLACK PANTHER Racist
CBALLEN 3 years ago
"The whole Arab world..."
Really? Even the Jewish Arabs, or Christian Arabs?
HenryvKeiper 3 years ago
Well then you don't WANT to hear more, but you think it's important to. I was not referring to you, and we are on the same side here.
ricaleigh007 3 years ago
Anyone who wants to hear more from someone who gave Farrakahn a lifetime achievement award IS a racist and an anti-Semite.
ricaleigh007 3 years ago
Excuse me, but "know your enemy" is still excellent advise. How do you know how to fight the enemy, if you don't know where they are coming from? What they are thinking?
Ostriches are simple creatures, their size is intimidating and they can run like hell, but when they get scared they bury their heads in the sand. America needs to open it's eyes and see the real enemy. Political correctness will KILL this nation if people don't wake up.
bookhound63 3 years ago
americas CHITLINS are comin home to roost yeehaw.
dman374 3 years ago
And I am Bookhound63, not bloodhound. You know like Read a BOOK!
bookhound63 3 years ago
Listen to your video again BOOKhound63. Toward the end of the excerpt you chose Wright said he was talking about what the Saudis and Arab world were saying about the United States and Israel. And by the way I got your handle right in the first place in that post. I just typed quickly and typed bloodhound by accident as I made my point in regard to the video. Instead of focusing on a simple error like that perhaps you ought to listen to the excerpt again and see the mistake you made.
jcp61874 3 years ago
Wright was quoting the Saudi's. Bookhound63 didn't even listen to what she put up. Wright has NEVER said Israel is illegal. He was pointing out what various parts of the Arab world were saying after 9-11 about America's support for Israel. Bloodhound63---you ought to listen a bit more carefully to what he is saying. If you approach the presentation believing he is a bigot you will never grasp Wright's message and what he is all about. Good luck.
jcp61874 3 years ago
Obama said, Wright "expressed a profoundly distorted view of this country -- a view that sees white racism as endemic, and that elevates what is wrong with America above all that we know is right with America, a view that sees the conflicts in the Middle East as rooted primarily in the actions of stalwart allies like Israel, instead of emanating from the perverse and hateful ideologies of radical Islam.
kodac81 3 years ago
Umm I don't care what Obama said. Obama while the best choice among the three remaining candidates is still a politician. And besides, Obama has said he hasn't heard the entire sermons as well. He was condemning the "soundbites" that "people found offensive". Regardless of what Obama said about Wright my point is that Wright is neither racist or anti-semitic. Anyone who actually takes the time to LISTEN to him will figure that out quickly. It is too bad that most won't take the time to do so.
jcp61874 3 years ago
"takes the time to LISTEN "
In 2 speeches and an interview with PBS and Trumpet magazine we have had plenty to listen to of Wright's lush analytical context of his entire sermons.
America is like Al Qida? That's the full context that is supposed to make everyone feel better? The longer versions are no better. I've heard enough, Obama has heard enough, America has heard enough. Only those that can not accept the truth - left brain problem? - want to hear longer versions of his rants.
kodac81 3 years ago
Whatever Kodac81...My point is that Wright is not racist or anti-semetic...Believe what you want...I really don't care...You can dismiss what he says by characterizing them as "rants" all you want if it makes you feel better...but it will never make your opinion more valid by doing so...
jcp61874 3 years ago
".You can dismiss what he says by characterizing them as "rants" "
I have done more than characterize. I have provided specific examples.
kodac81 3 years ago
..My point is that Wright is not racist or anti-semetic...
WOW,you must have a public school education or a brain with a serious flaw.
CBALLEN 3 years ago
My education and brain are just fine CBALLEN. You have no need to worry. Our respective interpretations of Wright's politics are simply incompatible. Believe what you want about Wright and I will do the same. Attempting to insult people you disagree with politically (particularly over the internet)is not only lame but it will never win you an argument. Take care.
jcp61874 3 years ago
My point exactly, I'm glad to see there are other ppl who understand this very significant point. Politicians NEEEEED to appeal to a broad audience and even though privately they may hold some eccentric beliefs, like any of us, they need to appeal to the broad base. This isn't to say that all politicians are liars and opportunists, it's simply the reality of that trade. I personally find a lot (but not all) of what J Wright says to be accurate. It's a good thing I'm not running for office.
eadelante 3 years ago
Then what is your point? The presentation was quite interesting and informative and shows that Wright is quite thoughtful and definitely not anti-semitic or racist. His presentation also showed that Christians, Jews and Muslims could get along by elevating the dialogue between them. That was the main point of it in its entirety. I encourage everyone to take the time to watch it. It is well worth it to check out ronptech 's page and view the whole presentation by Wright.
jcp61874 3 years ago
Her point was to create a venue where the ignorant, the bigoted, and the racist could continue their lies that Wright is a racist and an anti-semite. Which is interesting because semite means a person of color. Funny huh? There it is.
Ryooken 3 years ago
I just posted what the man said, I didn't comment on it or distort it. He called Israel an illegal nation. I didn't put words in his mouth. I also included the name of the original videos and the poster. I encourage people to watch ronptech's videos.
bookhound63 3 years ago
Actually you did. You just didn't do it hear but you did do it on other blogs that made it seem like you discovered something new that Wright had said. You strung together quotes from seperate parts of lectures without noting the context or the references Wright was making. This still a blatant attempt to smear the man and you should be ashamed of yourself. You hate muslims and that's the problem and anyone that supports them.
Ryooken 3 years ago
Nice try Bookhound...However if one takes the time to listen to whole thing (I HAVE) they will see that he is hardly anti-semitic or racist. You can cut up and edit videos however you want but it will never make your assertions about Wright correct. He was clearly talking about Saudi Arabia (where the majority of the 9-11 hijackers came from) and the Arab world being opposed to U.S. foreign policy. How exactly does that constitute hate speech on the part of Wright? Let me help you out. It don't.
jcp61874 3 years ago
Nice try, but I didn't say it was hate speech. My point is that this man is SUPPOSED to be a CHRISTIAN preacher. Christians don't refer to Mohamed and Jesus as an interchangable "Junior" God. Nor do they call for the US to stop supporting Israel. True, I didn't watch it all. Just the first HOUR AND A HALF, but don't worry I am working on the rest.
bookhound63 3 years ago
9 years ago! Surely Obama knew that Wright was Wrong then!
CPAsheldon 3 years ago
"Surely Obama knew"
It took Obama 20 years to notice that his pastor is a traitorous, racist nut-job. Obama admitted that his relationship with Rev. Wright is "a legitimate political issue," which at least makes him smarter than John McCain, who denounced the North Carolina Republicans for an ad mentioning Obama's raving lunatic pastor.
kodac81 3 years ago
One would think so, but if Barack wasn't soaking it up like a sponge, his wife sure was. I would have understood if she had said, "I am more proud than I've ever been of America" but to say she had NEVER been proud of America? Sounds like she's been listening.
bookhound63 3 years ago
Yes the Wright influence really shows up in his wife. I feel sorry especially for the young people that are indoctrinated with that type of disrespect for white people and black people that don't fit Wright's mold. One has to wonder how they will interact with white policmen and other officials as they go through life. I wonder about Obama's children.
Though not as extreme the indoctrination of the young reminds one of the the Islamic Madreasas that we see on TV
kodac81 3 years ago
The Trail of Tears pisses me off. But, I am a Native American with a College education. I have a roof over me, food to eat. I can go where I want, be what I want, whenever I want. (within the law, but I haven't had a desire to kill or rob anyone lately so, I'm good.) I like America! In fact I LOVE America, I love her principles. I love her Constitution. I love her freedom. We have had a rocky past, but think! It's only been 200 years! We are a young nation. And we've come SO FAR!
bookhound63 3 years ago
Well said. America does not compare well to the righteousness of God but she does compare well with other nations. We can pick out the worst of America's history and ignore the moral differences between her and her enemies if we wish; or we can be thankful for the blessing of living in America. We are blessed and the rest of the world knows it.
kodac81 3 years ago
bookhound63: The trail of tears should piss you off. Cherokees tried to assimilate into the white world 200 years ago, it didn't work then it doesn't work now. That's the part you are missing. I too love the constitution, however we have not been practicing the constitution ever. We have a rocky present too. So tell me how do you reconcile yourself with the policies of the Department of the Interior, when you know the trail of tears was retaliation for John Horse?
Ryooken 3 years ago
"it didn't work "
Are you kidding? Many Americans are descendants of Cherokee. For those obsessed with race and ethnicity, one can add up all the fractions of Cherokee heritage and discover that there are more cherokee living today as assimilated Americans than ever lived.
kodac81 3 years ago
Brigitte Gabriel said, "As a victim of Islamic terror, I was amazed when I saw Americans waking up on September 12, 2001, and asking themselves "Why do they hate us?" The psychoanalyst experts were coming up with all sort of excuses as to what did we do to offend the Muslim World. But if America and the West were paying attention to the Middle East they would not have had to ask the question. Simply put, they hate us because we are defined in their eyes by one simple word: "infidels."
bookhound63 3 years ago
YOu just can't leave other people alone can you, you slut
alexobama 3 years ago
Oh it's worse than that. Wright is explaining the entire history of jews, muslims and christians and how everything is today based on what actually happened. She took clips without explaining the actual context in which he was talking about. Ignoring that muslims jews and christians are ALL from the same family and we all love God.
Ryooken 3 years ago
If we are all the same family and we all love God. Then why does Radical Islam want to kill Israel AND us? I posted excerpts because the whole thing is 3 hours long. I also told you exactly where to find the lecture in it's entirety. I HOPE people will watch the whole thing, that's why I posted it.
bookhound63 3 years ago
For the same reason that christian fundementalists and Orthodox Jews have little tolerance for anyone different. It's sad but it's true. that Wright is saying Jesus and Mohamad is interchangable. He is speaking of the relationship to God as it relates to the people that perceive God. You are doing the same thing fox news did which is disengenuous at best.
Ryooken 3 years ago
Having "little tolerance" as you call it is not the same as BEHEADING people you disagree with. Jesus and Mohamed are NOT interchangable. Jesus said, "I am the way the truth and the life NO MAN cometh unto the Father but by ME." He didn't say ME or my buddy Mohamed.
That's Christianity. If you don't want to believe in Jesus as Lord. You don't have to. No one is going to cut your head off for it.
Muslims can believe whatever they want. I DON'T CARE. Just don't tell me I have to convert or DIE.
bookhound63 3 years ago
Wright doesn't mention the Muslim slaughter of black Christians in Africa.
kodac81 3 years ago
"She took clips without explaining the actual context "
America is like Al Qida? That's the full context that is supposed to make everyone feel better? Why do Rev. Wright's supporters think it helpful to hear longer versions of the "snippets"?
And along with Trumpet magazine, I think there is much much more.
kodac81 3 years ago
kodac81: First of all it's wass not in full context. I listened to that sermon and he was talking about some muslims want to convert non-muslims at gun point and said we have done the same thing. He was quoting scripture donnot look at the spec in my eye before you remove the beam from yours. You all keep playing this man of God and God will show you something really unpleasant. I hope you can handle it.
Ryooken 3 years ago
"we have done the same thing"
Are you not aware that people have freedom of worship in America? You and Wright want to believe the worst about America while overlooking the moral differences between her and her enemies. How long do you think that the Revereand would be allowed to rant in the Muslim Word?
The full context is a lie.
kodac81 3 years ago
kodac81: Really? Go and tell that to the indians that can't ghost dance. I find it ironic that the Amish can live a life seperate for the most part from the US government intrusion but the native Americans can't. Like I said before you don't know what you are talking about. Freedoms in this country are only applied in relation to the white american. That's the truth, and if you can't deal with it then that's too bad. Full context isn't a lie. continued
Ryooken 3 years ago
Law 101: Tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Anything less is a lie. That's been your problem all along kodac81: You lie as if it is the truth and it's not.
Ryooken 3 years ago
You don't know what you are talking about. Native Americans who chose to live on a Reservation have their own law enforcement and Judges. American police don't even have jurisdiction on a Res. In states where gambling is illegal, the Res. can have casinos.
As for the Ghost Dance, it was invented as a form of revolt by ONE group of Native Americans, in the 1800s, the Lakota, better known as Sioux. I am Cherokee and we never had a "ghost dance", but we have a GREAT Casino.
bookhound63 3 years ago
those ghost Indians must have really gotten the Reverend Wright upset. Obama said of Wright's comments: "All it was, was a bunch of rants that aren't grounded in truth"
I guess Obama doesn't know the injustice that America has done to the ghost Indians :-)
kodac81 3 years ago
I guess not, and you know what else? You know who's cheating the Native Americans now? Their Chiefs, their leaders. The government thought it would be a good idea to allow Casinos on Reservations. They thought it would give the tribes revenue, and help them improve their living conditions. Instead, their leaders steal the money and get rich, while leaving their brothers in poverty. Sounds kind of like the Africans who sold other Africans into slavery. (continued)
bookhound63 3 years ago
bookhound63: I am part Cherokee. You don't know what you are talking about. The US government has forbidden native Americans to ghost dance on their sacred land. Secondly, the police have never respected tribal boundries and any federal officer can enter reservation land with impunity. continued.
Ryooken 3 years ago
Ghost dance. A ceremonial religious dance connected with the messiah doctrine, which originated among the Paviotso in Nevada about 1888, and spread rapidly among other tribes until it numbered among its adherents nearly all the Indians of the interior basin, from Missouri river to or beyond the Rockies.
Ryooken 3 years ago
The prophet of the religion was a young Paiute Indian, at that time not yet 35 years of age, known among his own people as Wovoka ('Cutter'), and 'commonly called by the whites Jack Wilson, from having worked in the family of a ranchman named Wilson.
Ryooken 3 years ago
I'm not the one who wants to kill Jews and Christians. I'll be glad to leave it alone...when THEY leave US alone.
bookhound63 3 years ago
bookhound63: The US hasn't left the Arab world alone for the last 52 years. If we had they wouldn't be angry now. So don't hand me that nonsense. You hate muslims plain and simple. I listened to your other posts and I have read quite a few too. Leave those people alone. They will find their way to God. I would be more concerned about my own soul if I were you.
Ryooken 3 years ago
You're right. How could I have been so stupid? I'm always carrying signs that say "Behead those who insult Christianity." and "Death to Muslims". I regularly seek out and MURDER anyone who disagrees with me. I tell Muslims all the time that they must convert or die. OH PLEASE! Give me a break.
Since you like to read, get a copy of "Because They Hate" by Brigitte Gabriel, an Arab Christian from Lebanon. Read how she drank her own blood, ate grass and lived in a bomb shelter for 7 years to survive
bookhound63 3 years ago
Try listening to the entire lecture and you will understand what he was teaching.
Fisue928 3 years ago
Did you here that? "And until you all stop that, we're gonna kill them." And what will they do AFTER we stop supporting Israel? Throw them a party? NO! THEY WILL KILL THEM! People talk about hate THIS IS HATE!
bookhound63 3 years ago
The funny thing is, you attack me, and all I did was post what the man said. Amazing!
bookhound63 3 years ago
You are completely entitled to be stupid. That is your right.
bookhound63 3 years ago
bookhound63: I find it interesting that you selected this section of text without the pre-cursor before or after. I also find it interesting in spite of the fact, what Jeremiah Wright said was true, you are calling him anti-semetic. I am totally aware of US involvement in the displacing of the Palestinians at the hands of the Israelites. It's not anti-semetic what it is anti-oppression. Israel has treated the Palestinians very badly over the last 5 decades.
Ryooken 3 years ago
Well, I'm not going to post the whole 3 hours. It's already posted. Also, I told you exactly where to find it so people can listen to the whole thing for themselves. I ENCOURAGE people to watch the whole thing. That's why I made the video.
bookhound63 3 years ago
I know where you got this from. I have that sermon. He is discussing the Isaac and Ishmael. If you know the story then you know both groups are founded as children of abraham or abram.
Ryooken 3 years ago
Who cares about some two bit pastor nobody knows. Obamas just another israelo-fascist sell out...antiSemitism is almost always justified...'Save America, nuke israel!
nosuchnumber 3 years ago