To be honest I have no idea if this is true, but I heard from one history teacher that he attacked Russia because they were aware Russia was secretly meeting with Allies to form an alliance
@itsquazart Hitler attacked Russia because of Lebensraum. 'Living space' in English. He promised to give every German Speaker land to live on. he can't go west into nations of Saxon, Francish - Arian Origin because he reaches the sea. However he can go east into Slavic territory, because by this stage hes convinced the majority that the Slavs are a lesser race. Ofcourse he can't have a war on two fronts so he signs to Nazi-Soviet pact to guarantee his borders with Russia after...
@itsquazart Hitler had a chance against the Russians, even with the fierce winters and determined armies. However Churchchill had said that Britain would help America fight the Japanese. Roosevelt was on the side of the allies, giving them supplies etc however America was still Isolationist after WWI and the public didn't want another war, however Hitler, perhaps wanting to take the initiative etc declared war on the US, allowing FDR to enter the war without damaging his own Presidency. :P
@itsquazart they split Poland between them. He attacks France because they are a larger threat and it secures the West. After that hes confident that the Luftwaffe and a few armies can keep Britain in Britain (which was wrong ofc, especially with the Alliance with America incoming, Hitler actually declared war on America Btw which no historian can explain as anything other than an act of madness.) So he attacks Russia. He gets eaten by the Russian Winter and pushed back, The allies...
@itsquazart Break out in Normandy on D-Day and Rommel by this time is long out of Africa. The Nazi Empire gets unraveled from the sides rapidly and in the end Hitler kills himself, the Yalta and Potsdam Conferences happen. Cold War Borders get formed. Churchill makes his Iron Curtain Speech and the world is in a bigger shit tip than before. - A basic history lesson from one with interest in the topic. Sorry if I overdid it :)
@914light And you are a mirrored lifetime of fundamentalist Christians who don't understand what real Christianity is and flaunt your new-age mainstream Christianity. Jesus said those whom are religious are fools. You are a tool. Free your condemned mind and realize morality is innate within each of us because WE ARE ALL THE SAME. I was keeping my cool, but all I have to say now is fuck you old hag don't call me "dear"... RON PAUL 2012. P.s. Suck my ass, dry.
@914light This is where you're wrong. Not only in using the correct spelling of "you're", but in logic. You see... I take liking to many living and dead humans, but never idolizing because we are all connected and one. BUT YOU DO! You idolize a god that you don't even know exists or not, but you fear him/her/it still! Way to lead a miserable life. You are going to miss everything cool and interesting then die angry. Have fun turbo bitch.
@914light Dumb ass mutt, go back to the filthy cesspool you crawled out of. Hitchens was a voice of reason and logic, the exact opposite of your idiotic ass.
@Peterzhouftw hahahah ...you still struggling with the death of your retarded idol hitchens... LOLLLLLLLLLL to bad....he got what he deserved :) hahaha
I love you with a whole heart, Hitch -- but the word meaning mentally disintegrating should properly have been "decompensating." Decomposing means physically rotting to pieces after death or, in disorders like galloping wet gangrene, beginning somewhat before the event. You could use "decomposing" as a vivid and unpleasant metaphor to mean "falling apart," I guess.
Whatever flaws Stalin had, and they were many indeed, he didn't have the flaw of losing a war. For his supporters, it was whether their leader was convinced of his own ultimate triumph, and whether that was believable. The Russian people drew strength from Stalin's steadfast self-confidence and assuredness of victory. For the Germans, Hitler's weaknesses were (fatally) glossed over, even ignored, because he supposedly eclipsed them with his multifarious fantasies and grandiose oratory.
The difference between the Germans and Russians in WWII was that the Germans supported someone without serious regard to his chances of surviving the conflict while the Russians supported someone because of his serious regard to his chances of surviving the conflict. If you look up idealism in a Russian dictionary, it's almost the same word as pragmatism.
@KazgarothUsher MAYBE. It has been presented as one theory for Hitler's lunacy. What we do know is that he had Parkinson's Disease which made him a very weak man physically.
P.S. As for Hitler's screw-ups themselves I blame his spineless clique of "Generals" who rather wasted millions of German lives to save their own ego. Don't blame it all on Hitler, he didn't lose the war alone.
@theseventhprotocol Sure, that makes sense not. The Jewish desire for self-determination after 2000 years of bloody oppression somehow is translated by Jew haters as being a sick "Zionist warmonger chicken hawk." Keep writing the nonsense Goebbels
@moroney1 Yeah, and he took amphetamines to control the symptoms. Of coarse eventually this let to addiction later in his life. So Hitler literally was a meth addict.
But wait, if Hitler was rushing to get either result, why was he worried that the Germans were moving too fast, and as a result order that the troops halt before their capture of the British in North France on May 23rd 1940?
ive read it somewhere or heard it somewhere, that he stopped the panzers advance and anihalation of the british expiditionary force because feared a attack from the south by regrouped french forces, hence he halted the advancement, the attack didnt come, the french were in dissary and shock, hitlers generals were in shock at the order to halt, and then i read, he respected the english and british history, and didnt want to kill the english soldiers,he let them off.simple as that
The reason Hitler allowed the British Expeditionary Force to get away was that he still hoped he could get peace with the British, and defeating them to hard would make them less willing to make some sort of peace deal, so he thought.
And Hitchens is decomposing. from cancer and chemo.Even the most perfect human in the history of the world can't live forever.No one loves themselves as much as Hitchens.
@theseventhprotocol : That's unfair! Hitchen always put his homosexual lovers first!
Wikipedia: Hitchens has written of his homosexual experiences when in boarding school in his memoir, "Hitch-22." These experiences continued in his college years when he allegedly had relationships with two men who eventually became a part of the Thatcher government.
You can, of course, claim that the amount of time spent in educating the doctor needs to be factored into his remuneration, but this is sophistry. Experience makes the man, not the 10-odd years in med school.
Plainly then, the value of work is not merely a reflection of accumulated effort, but also of skill, responsibility, impact it has on others' productivity, demand, etc. This is why Marx's reductionism is just plain wrong. Value is in my opinion subjective
@TennisAnnalyst Curious how you propose to do that. Marx essentially equates effort to value; this , while it underpins his theory, makes sense in a world where an hour of surgeon's work is of no more worth than an hour of a ditch diggers work. Plainly this cannot be so, for a single doctor makes it possible for many ditch diggers to do their work ( live potentially longer, productive lives), while a single ditch digger's work - necessary though it is - does not. worth of Labour is unequal.
What you appear to fail to understand here is that the very reason we engineer SOCIAL CIRCUMSTANCES is so that we may select our offspring for success, to tip the scales in their favour. You are guaranteed failure if you predicate a system on rules which deny this. This is very basic behaviour, not only human & primate but found in most social mammals. Hierarchies come into being because of the natural & inherent inequality of natural endowment. The alpha cub is an alpha cub even if he's weak
@TennisAnnalyst It is the opportunity to make my children's future better - at the expense of your children, if it comes to that - which drives me to achieve. The perspective of not having my children do what I must do is the reward. It is always so, in every society you'd care to mention. Genes are selfish & societies have strata; this is why all systems where an mediating authority exists are inherently abusable & will always be abusable. We wouldn't have them any other way.
@TennisAnnalyst The main problem with Marx' notion of class & class struggle lies in sloppy fit to reality and definitions which, if taken as literally as Marx took them, would today invalidate the theory predicated upon them. Marx definiton of class is always in relation to production & the ownership/ control of means of production. This does not translate at all well to a post-industrial or merely modern society or a service based / information economy.
@TennisAnnalyst Sewage, water supply and educational opportunity should be enough for anyone. It is the nature of all economical systems to fluctuate with demand, supply and environmental conditions underlying these. One cannot expect ( nor does one see it in nature) unlimited growth. In nature statism means death. Intervening in the economy brought us to our present state.
@TennisAnnalyst The problem with using class struggle to explain social evolution is that it is reductionist and does not account for many society affecting phenomena, some are stalking the modern world as we type. As with many reductionist systems, 'explaining' social evolution in terms of class struggle is a lousy fit & sloppy science. Class struggle, as Marx used it, is ideological. The whole idea of reducing all of social complexity to issues of property is ideological.
@TennisAnnalyst Actually, it was the advent of the factory towns and subsequent urban restructuring that gave us public transport, sewage, public education, modern medicine, electrification & majority of what we now consider to be modern technological civilization. While at the very beginning working conditions were atrocious, they changed for the better because it was good for business not to loose your workforce to diphtheria, typhus or cholera. Thanks to the capitalist.
@TennisAnnalyst Unequal chances is the very thing which drives the ambitious & talented. Take that away and soon you'll find them re-appearing in other, more insidious ways. This is the way that communist nomenclature worked. Take one look at formerly communist countries & you'll see that it is the former party bosses and secret services folk who dominate the economy & society. Also, there hasn't been anything like 'totally free capitalism' since the turn of the 19th century.
@TennisAnnalyst Communizing capitalism is what you have now. Sometimes the only way to be kind is to be cruel, and this means removing any and all crutches. Social programs result in anti competitive practices, this in turn means less talented people wasting our limited time & resources. Having said that, universal access ( on merit alone) to education is a splendid idea.
@TennisAnnalyst As history has shown, it was the autocratic and stultifying communist policy which stifled initiative and promoted laziness. Any system based on the erroneous assumption that a brain surgeon deserves no more than a street sweeper will discourage attempts at bettering one's lot, given that no matter what the effort applied, the remuneration will be the same as that of a drudge.
@TennisAnnalyst If the failed experiment with communism has taught us anything at all, its that attempts at re-making man and re-distributing property end in economic and social calamity. It isn't merely a question of man being inherently selfish - he is - but the irresponsibly reductionist approach to sociology which reduces all interactions to property transactions and all relations to economical ones. Wherever we look at 'communism' today we see aggressive capitalism.
@TennisAnnalyst Actually, life expectancy in the early 1800 had more to do with cramped, unhygienic conditions of industrial centers and lack of effective medical treatment ( germ theory of disease was only formulated in the 1850's) than with capitalism. Of course it was capitalism which drove the industrial revolution; we might as well blame the irish land tennacy & the catholic church ( and not potato monoculture, susceptible to blight) for the irish potato famine.
@TennisAnnalyst This is not merely the question of ' what they did with Marx's work' but of Marx's own intent & interpretation. Too often Marx is presented as 'misinterpreted'. The Communist manifesto makes no such evasions: 'The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions.' - Marx sets communism up to be the enemy of mankind to benefit the drudges.
@TennisAnnalyst 'Class struggle' used as a justification for extermination of whole populations 'exists' in the same way as race theory 'existed', and for much the same purpose . It is one way of interpreting available data, alas, just as invalid. Not that long ago phrenology ( study of cranium shape ) was used as scientific evidence of moral degeneracy & criminality in court, while women were considered naturally inferior to men on similarly 'scientific' grounds.
@TennisAnnalyst I actually understand that 'class struggle' meant innocent millions of the bourgeoisie, land owners and peasants were shot, beaten and starved to death on this flimsy excuse, in order to solidify the Bolshevik power base and in order to collectivize farming - as an example. Both were economically disastrous to all except the top brass of the party. Revolutionary terror and economic chaos alone reaped millions of innocent dead, children as well as adults.
A question for atheists. In a world where there's no proof of God's existence or of life after death; how will you explain to your children why you brought them into the world and why they should die?
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the "Holocaust" deceit coupled with "Israel" signifies when the jews abandoned their long-awaited "Messiah" in order to serve as their own messiah. But now the many lies about the Germans have unraveled and the jewish supremacists have been exposed once more. Perhaps less than 100,000 jewish deaths resulted from WWII which was instigated at the behest of the international jewish bankers. The jews have profited unbelievably from WWII but in return forfeited their "Messiah".
@BlessedBeTheTruth ....its so sad to hear you spout your hateful lies. Antisemitism is like a Mental health disease that spreads through the weak minded. Please people vote down this deluded idiots post.
Hitler, just as many leader in the 20th century, was known to be given large amounts of IV amphetamines to keep him awake and get the work done. This is a short-term solution, because if you have ever seen a meth addict you will realise it starts to physically destroy your mind and body...
@rollokb2 He says a psychopath, which, it seems to me, he was. Why would you say he lacks the symptoms. He didn't seem to have much human feeling, and was shrewd and uncaring in getting what he wanted.
Qwerty is quite right. There were no plans to invade the West. Just look at the German troop concentrations and movements. His West flank was totally unguarded, he had no airfields or military bases to the West which you would have expected if he had planned a Westward assault.
As for Japans attack on the US, this was cleverly instigated by the US by the means of almost completely stopping the oil supply to Japan. Japan had 2 choices, go without oil or fight the US and get the supply back.
These are facts. Unfortunately its not the history they teach you as they want to portray the allies as the good guys but, this is what happened and history cannot be changed.
If you don't like the truth then i suggest you carry on watching those Hollywood fairytales they keep putting on the screen which eventually people start to believe, just like you.
If you want me to accept your version of history you need to provide tangible evidence not emotional pleadings added with ad hominem attacks, ? American freedom allows thankless ungrateful scum like you the right to express your hateful anti-american ideology ,Hitler stripped his own people of such rights it was his regime that rounded up & executed college students in munich simply for handing out antiwar leaflets. .
LOL.. So posting facts you don't like is anti American? The evidence is all around you. Its on the internet, the Imperial war museum in London, documentary programs, the Russian state archives. This information is widely available on the internet.
That same American freedom also allows brainless idiots like you to spout trash and nonsense all over the internet just because you don't have the intellect to research it for yourself and admit you are wrong.
, Once again you made the claim you present the evidence, You haven't so much as offered a single link ! You say documentary programs what doc's then?!! I don't live in the fucking UK and I don't read Russian either!
Don't live in the UK? OK. Fly there i did. And i live in New Zealand.
Don't speak Russian. Not a problem, go to Moscow and hire an interpreter. A good one will cost you $5 a day max. I speak from experience.
Links. My God man how useless are you? A simple google search will bring up 30,000 hits full of all the information to back up my post, not that it's ground breaking news in the first place anyway.
Starting the war while Hitler was still in power was the best move in the end, Unless hitchens thinks that waiting untill the Fuhrer kills over & gets replaced by his more capable lieutenants like Heinrich Himmler would somehow improve things, much less the fact that delaying the fight would mean that the German scientist would have more time to complete their Black projects, Fascist Italy would also have been deadlier opponent in 1950 then it actually was in 1940.
What you are saying is incorrect, coercive regimes only rot countries. North Korea is weaker every year, the USSR maybe made for a potential enemy in 1950 but was a complete joke by 1980, Germany and/or Italy could have been cleaned with a spoon by 1950 (and with a straw by 1960). Countries don't get "stronger" as they dive in coercive regimes - you have your facts backwards. Mao died in 1976 and China gave up on coercive/centralized planning then - result speaks for itself.
You misunderstood the point I was making , You assume that a Hitlerless Third Reich would not continue the drive for military expansion and war in the short term rather then sit around and rot like the USSR.
Your mixing apples and oranges, The USSR and the Third Reich are very different beasts, the soviet union was a leftist Utopianist state and you had a reformist leadership that took power from within that made the conscious choice to abolish state coercion.
@Obasiliasfilosofos actually, no. The USSR and the III reich were very similar; inspired by largely the same socialist ethos. In both cases, Utopian aspirations served as an excuse for a totalitarian power grab; the USSR was more coercive with respect to its population than the Reich. The reich used a flawed race theory to justify its depredations - the USSR used a flawed sociology ( class war) to justify its own purges and extermination of national and cultural minorities.
No they did not both have Utopian aspirations, Nazism aim & goal was never to create a Utopian perfectly just & harmonious society, they sought dominion & mastery over the inferior Untermensch the total inverse of communist internationalism, Unlike Marxism they romanticized war & military conquest. Both where totalitarian but their social ethos and economic philosophy was far from being the same.
@Obasiliasfilosofos The idea of a racially pure german population in the middle of europe, ruling subservient untermenschen & lasting a 1000 years is a pure german utopia. Of course it was just as nonsensical & utopian as the idea of the 'soviet man'. In both cases atrocities were committed in the name of the common ideal. In both cases external enemies and political terror were used as a means of controlling the population. Both waged offensive war. both centrally controlled the economy.
There is a big difference between "Hitler's dream" and that of the soviets , Is that the soviets were at-least on paper presenting the promise of a egalitarian society much like Star-trek, Where poverty ,social-injustice & exploitation would be eliminated with mankind joined together as "comrades" in one big family regardless of Race & Nationality , The complete reverse of Hitlerism, Communists sought to recruit altruistically motivated people.
@Obasiliasfilosofos The nazi were just as happy to recruit anyone considered 'germanic' or even merely not jewish or slavic. There were idealistic young french, finns, latvians, estonians, belgians and dutch young men in dedicated waffen SS divisions...they even recruited the croats and bosnian muslims. The parallels are quite close, for all the soviet claims to the contrary. For an accessible history of Communist-Nazi parallels I suggest "the soviet story" right here on Youtube.
Third Reich economy was not a centrally planned economy, It was a mixed economy that never aimed to abolish private capital nor did it seek to transfer ownership of the means of production to worker communes by robbing wealthy industrialists of their property. At most they wanted to eliminate free-labor unions and create party worker syndicates establishing a labor cartel.
@Obasiliasfilosofos The third Reich was a command economy. The Nazis avoided the outward forms ( nationalization) but kept the essence, in that wages, labour conditions, raw material supply, industrial orders and most importantly - the money supply - were firmly controlled by the government. By eliminating labour unions and providing slave labour where it was expedient, the Nazi war machine was kept rolling. The difference waspretty much in name only.
North Korea is still going and when Kim Jong Il regency assumes control they may very well shift the country in the same direction as china & vietnam, China is still a coercive tightly governed police state at present!! All that changed in china was its shift away from central planning to free market capitalism while still skipping over civil rights and democratization!
I was not speaking in terms of "growing stronger politically" I was thinking in military terms, Mussolini would have had the time he needed to complete full production of his arms industry in order to get the Italian army ready to full capacity for a prolonged war , Hitler & Mussolini made a pact to do just that and Hitler broke the agreement forcing his ally to join the war at half strength.
Have you read Mein Kampf? He wanted to kill all Jews and make slaves of all the Slavic people. After that, he would have gone west. His rule was one of war. If he didn't have any enemies, he had to invent some. Otherwise Germany would have collapsed. And why the fuck would you defend Hitler? He was a pshychopath who wanted to rule the Earth. Just because before the war he claimed he didn't, just meant he was lying
@qwertypoiu4321 Bull fucking shit! It was part of his whole manifesto. It's part of the reason he developed the Amerika bomber which never saw production; specifically to bomb the US east coast.
You're just some sack of shit racist fuck who knows jack about geo-politics or warfare.
@Capt777harris The Amerika Bomber Project was a defensive response to the increased US move to invade Germany, starting with Roosevelt's Quarantine speech. That is not Hitler going west, never mind taking over the earth. Idiot.
@qwertypoiu4321 Absolute bullshit! Christ, where do you get your goddamn history, at a nazi website? Hitler had mystical ideals of building a white empire, ergo his speeches. The bomber project was well underway before our involvement, but didn't see commitment until later in the war. Shit, read ANY NASA publication on the subject.
@Capt777harris "Hitler had mystical ideals of building a white empire, ergo his speeches."
Hitler wanted a German Empire that was relevent like Britain in Europe, whom he admired along with Italy. That is not expanding west, never mind taking over the earth. The defensive Amerika Bomber project was not 'underway' until 1942, after the US was involved in invading Germany.
Hitler was not going to expand west, never mind take over the earth. That is comic-book, child history.
@qwertypoiu4321 Oh give me a break. They the fuck did he invade Russia? Why go after England? Why go north to the Scandanavian countries? You know jack about hi intents.
@Capt777harris Hitler invaded Russia because he needed to give a blow to Britain's allies, and since he could not militarily stop the US from invading he decided Russia. Hitler started the northern campaign after seeing Britain show it was about to invade Norway, which would have been fatal to Germany. Have you ever heard of the Norway debacle that propelled Churchill to power? That is not going west, never mind taking over the earth; that is a pure myth.
@qwertypoiu4321 You're missing the point, WHY DO IT AT ALL??? The man was a military aggressor. It doesn't matter what he said his intentions were, nor what morons like you believe, it's what he did. He lied and lied again about where he would stop. Every single fucking dictator has done the same exact thing; take some, then more and more until somebody (or group of somebodies) gang up to stop them. Remember the non-aggression pact he signed? Enough said, asshole.
@Capt777harris He was not the aggressor, Poland was the aggressor by keeping Germans under Polish rule. Britain should have reversed Versailles when Germany was run by democrats and not by Fascist Nazi's. Since Britain did not do that, when the Nazi's did come to power Britain should have pushed forth Italy's Four-Power Pact. Since that did not happen what Britain should have done was not give a war guarantee to keep German's under Polish rule,
but draw a line across the French/Low country border and say to Germany, whatever you do in regard to Versailles and the East, if you cross this line you are at war with Britain and France. Germany would have never crossed that line, just as the more militarily aggressive Stalin never crossed the Elbe River during the Cold War.
You have no evidence Hitler even 'wanted' to go west, never mind your ignorant statement he 'wanted to rule the world'. You did not respond to one of my points because that would require not having the intellectual capacity of a child. Comic-book myths do not refute facts. Either give evidence Germany wanted to take over the earth(there is none) or admit you have the mental capacity of a zoo animal.
@Capt777harris If he was "yelling his head off" about wanting to, as you say, "RULE THE WORLD", it would make it that much easier for you to give me some evidence of Hitler wanting to take over the earth. Hitler was never going the expand west, never mind take over the earth, that is child-history.
@qwertypoiu4321 have read your and Capt discussion; and just wondering why you both are leaving out facts from history? It was not just Germany in this war. The Italians and Japanese were fighting with hitler. and the fact that Japan had control of many asian countries, attests to that. So to say Hitler was not going to take over the world is partly right, but factually, with his allies, they were trying to do just that. Of course we all know history and the Japanese made a tactical error
@qwertypoiu4321 You have NO clue what he was going to do, because he got STOPPED!!! period. History is as it is. The reason the WORLD countries went against Germany and their Alliances. Since NO ONE could read his mind, no one knows what his plans were.. Only people who can guess and wonder. So please stop your bull shit posting and stop dreaming that Hitler was a nice guy. Next your going to tell everyone that the Holocaust never happened?? LMFAO dumb fucking asshole.
@zeineguy Britain declared war on Germany to keep germans under polish rule, that is what started the war, not Germany. Hitler was never going to expand west, never mind take over the earth; that is comic-book history. You are getting belligerent because you can not find ONE piece of evidence showing Germany going west or wanting to take over the earth, the reason for this is because this is a myth. Go get a basic education of WWII before you comment any further.
@qwertypoiu4321 Obviously you only commented as always troll. you didnt even read my comment. Maybe you are objecting that there was an alliance? do you even understand what that means? seriously.
The war, as with most wars, is not about power but about money. How the central banking system, which is an ENGLAND based bank, controls countries but also loans to both sides of the war. DUH> maybe you need to learn a bit more about economics.
@zeineguy Still no evidence? The Tripartite Pact was a defensive pact, nothing more. Hitler was never going to expand west, never mind take over the earth; that is child history, with zero evidence.
@qwertypoiu4321 I suggest you do a bit more research. Hitler planned an enormous ocean-going battlefleet.His "Table Talk" conversationsmention settling with Japan andeventuallytheUS-taking Europe was Hitler's Act One; Asia and America would have to wait a decade or two.
@kentamitchell The whole post-1939-9 policy was tactical to end the invasion of Germany, which Britain started to keep germans under polish rule. That is hardly expanding west, never mind taking over the earth. I have Hitler's Table Talk, I did not see anything (at all!) about 'taking' Europe, Asia and America. Where on earth are you getting this information in that book?
@kentamitchell The unsolicited declaration of war against Germany started with Britain/France 1939-9. This brought everything on the table to stop this unsolicited invasion, including preparing for possible invasions by Russia and the US. Once again, I have Hitler's Table Talk and I did not see anything (at all!) about 'taking' Europe, Asia and America. Where on earth are you getting this information in that book?
@qwertypoiu4321 Google "Hitler America" & read Professor Weinberg's excellent article.For more on Hitler's plans for America,read Hitler's Second Book.
@kentamitchell I have Hitler's Table Talk and Hitler's Second Book, neither ever (at any point!) say anything about 'taking' Europe, Asia or the US. Nowhere in the Weinberg article or either book is there ever anything about 'taking' Europe, Asia or the US.
Where on earth are you getting this information in either of these books?
@qwertypoiu4321 wow nice to see you are taking ALL your knowledge from ONE book lmfao. you are fucking unbelievable. Germany was in an ALLIANCE with ITALY, facsist govt and Japan.. ROYALTY govt. seriously, your just a fucking troll. do you have a hitler picture on your wall that you adore everyday? lmfao.
@kentamitchell dont worry , querty is just a troll that doesnt have the true facts about what happened in WW2. I am guessing the Japanese bombing Pearl harbor was just a mistake for another NON USA island that they wanted to conquer. LMFAO. I am guessing in qwerty world, history was written another way. maybe in his world Hitler was the nice guy and everyone else were the conquerers hmmmm oh well you will never win an arguement with a troll.
@qwertypoiu4321 Poland was the aggressor? What 'alternative history' are you sourcing from now? Hitler's flimsy excuse for invading Poland was the Gdansk corridor, the demand for which would have removed Poland's one access to the sea. Much as with his demands for the sudetenland, the idea of uniting Germans in one reich was simply an excuse for waging aggressive, offensive war.
Hitler was not going to expand west, nevermind take over the earth. The British should have accepted the four-power pact, but they wanted a war over nothing, and that is what eventually happened.
Sure, let him have the Poles, Czechoslovacs. Lithuania, and so many other countries. Let him make slaves of those people (that's what he wanted). And do you really think, that he wouldn't go to France later on? You are an idiot if you do.
@Tharrel Hiter wanted German-Danzig from Poland and the German-Sudetenland from Czechoslovakia. Halifax went to Germany and told Hitler Britain agreed with him on this. That is not expanding west, nevermind taking over the earth.
Hitler wanter his "race" to rule all the other people. If Britain kept having the apeasment policy, the whole Europe would speak German now. Hitler was a crazy racist. And the idea for me, as a Pole, to give Polish Gdańsk (Danzig) away is outragous.
@Tharrel Hitler wanted to reverse some of Versailles, with some possible exceptions in the East. German-Danzig was 85-90% German in 1920, having been part of the German Empire since 1871. That is not even going west, never mind taking over the earth.
"So it makes no sense that the likes of Rothchilds funded Hitler to power because elitists like him lost their influence in Germany. "
If you look at the larger pic you'll see that basically the same people now OWN THE WORLD.
All you need to do is google "Rothschild power" & do some digging & perhaps you'll find that they have A LOT MORE OF IT TODAY! Evil is clever you know...
Hitler was the "boogeyman" the world SAW. The actual brains are always lurking In the shades...
Lastly, I'm quite aware an obscure "childhood firend" -Kubizek I believe - and others, nazi officials, have provided info on AH.
However, 70 years later, historians are still speculating about the man -"Did he have 1 testicle? Was he siphylitic? Who was his grandfather? etc" and the narrative simply seems put together and doesn't LIVE, generating some kind of hazy, highly undefinite mystique, obscure evil creature,
@suddenlyitsobvious Actually... Historians have only one recorded instance of Hitler talking (this is due to the fact that he was insecure about his image and didn't want to let the public know that he was actually a normal human). It's a quite melancholy conversation and was recorded only by accident, but it was between Hitler and a secretary discussing some file report.
However, we also have his book, Mein Kampf. And we have documents that describe him as moody and very irritable.
"Historians have only one recorded instance of Hitler talking (this is due to the fact that he was insecure about his image and didn't want to let the public know that he was actually a normal human)."
Well, that's the "official reason", isn't it? We're just gonna have to "believe" again. Can't check out the most notorious man of the 20th century...
NOT good enough for me.
Mein Kampf written by Hitler? I don't think so...
Do you know where that one recording you mention is?
There you are. And actually it's one of few... And yes, Mein Kampf was written by Hitler while in jail shortly after being arrested for "political crimes" during his first unsuccessful attempt to rise to power.
Don't debate this please, you're only going to get your ass handed to you.
"Don't debate this please, you're only going to get your ass handed to you."
He he he.
Thanks for the link, but it's just a short audio-tape.
Of course I'm quite aware of the official versions. Yes, Hitler landed in jail for a -remarkably- short time after the Beer Hall Putsch & supposedly wrote MK there. However, how can we be sure he was the actual brain of it? What if it was Haushofer, through Hess, who was with Hitler EVERY FRIGGIN day in jail noting it all down?
Do you really think individuals SEIZE POWER like Hitler did? Of course not. From the very start, we see that Hitler was a puppet of elites, who PUT HIM IN POWER.
The world now has received some boogeyman narrative about AH being the "most evil man on earth", an evil genius. This narrative is hardly checkable, we just have to believe, and I reiterate that it's BIZARRE & very fishy that no clear footage like a filmed interview exists of him & ...
...& that the reason is most probably that he was so ostentatiously moronic that anybody today would IMMEDIATELY have realized that he wasn't the brain behind it all, and gasp in shock at how idiotic he seems.
On pics in the late 30s you can actually see AH already looks like a shadow of a man, looking mediacted actually, like some Alzheimer patient. He looks to me as if he could hardly THINK.
Interestingly, when looking at the Berchtesgaden footage, ...
...you can actually spot high officials constantly appear to be SMIRKING at AH behind his back. It seems they're all thinking: "Wow, how did it all happen? THIS is the moron that has made the world tremble?!? AMAZING!! How stupid are people!!!"
They all appear to eye him in amazement, as if he were some difform monster in a freak show. NO SIGNS OF FEAR WHATSOEVER.
The diary by Traudl Junge furthermore is downright BIZARRE,
...HEAVILY EDITED of course & released MANY DECADES after the facts & showing an unreal AH. The book so completely lacks in realism and psychological insight that it' is simply ridiculous. Note AH appears to have a doctor around him all the time, gets his regular injections and pills and appears to be some autistic, damaged child rather than a monstrous genius.
...and footage on the most notorious man in the world. This, besides his obscure background & bizarre rise to power should make anyone think. Germany -even if in shambles after Versailles & flooded with disruptive agents- was hardly a banana-republic you know...
You'll find elite families had a stake in AH from the start & of course, he was merely a USEFUL IDIOT, a front...
@suddenlyitsobvious I think you are going a little to far with the conspiracy thing here. Hitler became the Fuhrer of Germany because he actually did something for his nation, he re-enstated German families and their values by putting Germany's recourses directly to benefit all germans. He created a socety so more advanced then anything at that time, a socety without materialism or debt enslavement. National Socialism was also a anti-capitalist and anti-communist political movement.
Please let's not call everything that hasn't been validated by authority a "conspiracy-theory".
"he actually did something,... he re-enstated...he created."
"HE"? What do you mean, "HE"?
The things you mention don't address my argument in any way. What makes you think these things were Hitler's OWN doing? That nazi-policies were implemented, and a lot of things soon started running smoothly is really besides the point I was making, namely that AH was a controlled puppet.
@suddenlyitsobvious Hitler was not a puppet, thats utter bullshit. I know there are alot of controlled puppets now a days who call themselves politicians but Hitlers National Socialist movement came to pass to free the nation of banking capitalism an prevent the further spread of communism in Europe, it was not something that was controlled, it was for a country to lead it out of control of the banking oligarchs.
@suddenlyitsobvious The sudden rise of nazism and it's sucess was a suprise to all the oligarchs and bankers around the world, that is why they forced the war upon them and still continue to bash and demonize Hitler to this day while expecting us to buy bullshit stories like the holocaust. The true "controlled" country reformation in WW2 was the Bolsheivik revoloution, oligarchs wanted to overthrow the order in Russia so they used puppets like Stalin to keep everything bloodstained enough.
Really? Anton Drexler from Drexler breweries & many other elites sponsored Hitler from almost immediately after Versailles. He actually received theater lessons if I'm not mistaken, was introduced into high society, and all this while having a completely obscure background This should make anyone think
Hitler's party, his contacts, EVERYTHING set up by elites, EVERYTHING.
@suddenlyitsobvious Anton Drexler was not a political elitist before Hitler came to power, he was a worker most of his life and granted Hitler membership into the German workers party, a standard workers movement party. Hitler then introdouced many set of ideals into the party and reformed it into The NSDAP who were just a group of activists calling forth a social change in Germany. It took them 14 years to plan the social reconstruction of Germany and their program was most sucessful.
@suddenlyitsobvious I would also like to point out that Hitler was an artist who had interest in many forms of art including theatre, so naturally he was trained for his hobby.
@suddenlyitsobvious There were no powerful industrials in post ww1 Germany, the country was ravaged and plundered and most of the national production of goods were severly haltered. So Hitler formulated an engenious plan to boost up German production not for corporate gain but for German citizens.
When you say "There were no powerful industrials in post ww1 Germany", you make clear that you don't understand that war is a VERY LUCRATIVE BUSINESS for some people.
Look at the Thyssens, the Krupps, the Rothschilds.
Are you suggesting they were BANKRUPT after ww1?
Wrong! They were sitting high and dry and had all "made a killing" during ww1.
@suddenlyitsobvious Ofcourse there were a few elites who made a fortune outof WW1, but the whole country was fucked up and there were no active massive production lines during that time in Germany. As soon as Hitler rose to power the Rothchild empire was threatend, that is why they forced the war upon the third recih because Hitler threatend to end the influence of the banking empire in Europe, he even sayd so in Mein Kampf.
@suddenlyitsobvious And if you do some actual study on the Third Reich then you see that there was no debt based money Mechanics in the banking system in Germany after Hitler came to power and no morgage loans required from the banks for people to buy a house because the reich accuired a house aswell as a mutch more debt free way of living for all German citizens. So it makes no sense that the likes of Rothchilds funded Hitler to power because elitists like him lost their influence in Germany.
To be honest I have no idea if this is true, but I heard from one history teacher that he attacked Russia because they were aware Russia was secretly meeting with Allies to form an alliance
itsquazart 1 week ago
@itsquazart Hitler attacked Russia because of Lebensraum. 'Living space' in English. He promised to give every German Speaker land to live on. he can't go west into nations of Saxon, Francish - Arian Origin because he reaches the sea. However he can go east into Slavic territory, because by this stage hes convinced the majority that the Slavs are a lesser race. Ofcourse he can't have a war on two fronts so he signs to Nazi-Soviet pact to guarantee his borders with Russia after...
tommat00 1 week ago
@tommat00 Yeah I know all that, the only part I would contend is Hitler declaring war on US. Wasn't that just a condition of joining with Japan.
itsquazart 1 week ago
@itsquazart Hitler had a chance against the Russians, even with the fierce winters and determined armies. However Churchchill had said that Britain would help America fight the Japanese. Roosevelt was on the side of the allies, giving them supplies etc however America was still Isolationist after WWI and the public didn't want another war, however Hitler, perhaps wanting to take the initiative etc declared war on the US, allowing FDR to enter the war without damaging his own Presidency. :P
tommat00 1 week ago
@itsquazart they split Poland between them. He attacks France because they are a larger threat and it secures the West. After that hes confident that the Luftwaffe and a few armies can keep Britain in Britain (which was wrong ofc, especially with the Alliance with America incoming, Hitler actually declared war on America Btw which no historian can explain as anything other than an act of madness.) So he attacks Russia. He gets eaten by the Russian Winter and pushed back, The allies...
tommat00 1 week ago
@itsquazart Break out in Normandy on D-Day and Rommel by this time is long out of Africa. The Nazi Empire gets unraveled from the sides rapidly and in the end Hitler kills himself, the Yalta and Potsdam Conferences happen. Cold War Borders get formed. Churchill makes his Iron Curtain Speech and the world is in a bigger shit tip than before. - A basic history lesson from one with interest in the topic. Sorry if I overdid it :)
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914light 2 weeks ago
@914light And you are a mirrored lifetime of fundamentalist Christians who don't understand what real Christianity is and flaunt your new-age mainstream Christianity. Jesus said those whom are religious are fools. You are a tool. Free your condemned mind and realize morality is innate within each of us because WE ARE ALL THE SAME. I was keeping my cool, but all I have to say now is fuck you old hag don't call me "dear"... RON PAUL 2012. P.s. Suck my ass, dry.
Ievolovel 2 weeks ago
@Ievolovel ..shut up stupid ...your a piece of filth.. just like your lord idol and savior hitchens ...
914light 2 weeks ago
@914light This is where you're wrong. Not only in using the correct spelling of "you're", but in logic. You see... I take liking to many living and dead humans, but never idolizing because we are all connected and one. BUT YOU DO! You idolize a god that you don't even know exists or not, but you fear him/her/it still! Way to lead a miserable life. You are going to miss everything cool and interesting then die angry. Have fun turbo bitch.
Ievolovel 2 weeks ago
@914light Dumb ass mutt, go back to the filthy cesspool you crawled out of. Hitchens was a voice of reason and logic, the exact opposite of your idiotic ass.
Peterzhouftw 1 week ago
@Peterzhouftw hahahah ...you still struggling with the death of your retarded idol hitchens... LOLLLLLLLLLL to bad....he got what he deserved :) hahaha
914light 1 week ago
@914light What a wonderful example of Christian love you are.
Spoonface370 1 week ago
@Spoonface370 ...than you ;)
914light 1 week ago
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914light 2 weeks ago
@914light It's inbred dumbfucks like you that hold society back. Go educate yourself you useless piece of trash.
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914light 2 weeks ago
I love you with a whole heart, Hitch -- but the word meaning mentally disintegrating should properly have been "decompensating." Decomposing means physically rotting to pieces after death or, in disorders like galloping wet gangrene, beginning somewhat before the event. You could use "decomposing" as a vivid and unpleasant metaphor to mean "falling apart," I guess.
manthasagittarius1 2 weeks ago
Whatever flaws Stalin had, and they were many indeed, he didn't have the flaw of losing a war. For his supporters, it was whether their leader was convinced of his own ultimate triumph, and whether that was believable. The Russian people drew strength from Stalin's steadfast self-confidence and assuredness of victory. For the Germans, Hitler's weaknesses were (fatally) glossed over, even ignored, because he supposedly eclipsed them with his multifarious fantasies and grandiose oratory.
avidalocan 3 weeks ago
The difference between the Germans and Russians in WWII was that the Germans supported someone without serious regard to his chances of surviving the conflict while the Russians supported someone because of his serious regard to his chances of surviving the conflict. If you look up idealism in a Russian dictionary, it's almost the same word as pragmatism.
avidalocan 3 weeks ago
My grandfather always thought that Hitler had rabies.
razarsenal180 3 weeks ago
Did Hitch say Hitler had syphilis O.O - never knew that! Does anybody know if that statement can be verified?
KazgarothUsher 3 weeks ago
@KazgarothUsher MAYBE. It has been presented as one theory for Hitler's lunacy. What we do know is that he had Parkinson's Disease which made him a very weak man physically.
P.S. As for Hitler's screw-ups themselves I blame his spineless clique of "Generals" who rather wasted millions of German lives to save their own ego. Don't blame it all on Hitler, he didn't lose the war alone.
Kuhlfurst 2 weeks ago
@Kuhlfurst Cheers m8 - appreciate the response!
KazgarothUsher 2 weeks ago
I'm sure all the Zionist warmonger chicken hawks are sad about old Hitch LOL !.
theseventhprotocol 3 weeks ago 2
@theseventhprotocol ..I am sure your right !! ...but I,m not sad:)
914light 2 weeks ago
@theseventhprotocol Sure, that makes sense not. The Jewish desire for self-determination after 2000 years of bloody oppression somehow is translated by Jew haters as being a sick "Zionist warmonger chicken hawk." Keep writing the nonsense Goebbels
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We don't have the old arrogant poofter to kick around any more.It's good he won't be promoting wars and spreading hatred against Muslims anymore.
theseventhprotocol 1 month ago
@theseventhprotocol I see from your bio that you are a truther so a hearty fuck off to you.
MoeGreensRightEye 1 month ago
@theseventhprotocol Yes, what a shame, but at least you still have plenty of shit to kick around.
GoddyofWar 1 month ago
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mattchoules1 1 month ago
@theseventhprotocol What will people say when your dead, your clearly hating on the Jews...
kevinjjfr 1 month ago
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Trying to start a dedicatory meme: Merry Hitchmas!!
tdp1909 1 month ago
He did have Parkinsons Disease didnt he?
moroney1 2 months ago
@moroney1 Yeah, and he took amphetamines to control the symptoms. Of coarse eventually this let to addiction later in his life. So Hitler literally was a meth addict.
Leviathan268 1 month ago
But wait, if Hitler was rushing to get either result, why was he worried that the Germans were moving too fast, and as a result order that the troops halt before their capture of the British in North France on May 23rd 1940?
thegoodgeneral 3 months ago
@thegoodgeneral
ive read it somewhere or heard it somewhere, that he stopped the panzers advance and anihalation of the british expiditionary force because feared a attack from the south by regrouped french forces, hence he halted the advancement, the attack didnt come, the french were in dissary and shock, hitlers generals were in shock at the order to halt, and then i read, he respected the english and british history, and didnt want to kill the english soldiers,he let them off.simple as that
andrewkenworthy 2 months ago
@andrewkenworthy
The reason Hitler allowed the British Expeditionary Force to get away was that he still hoped he could get peace with the British, and defeating them to hard would make them less willing to make some sort of peace deal, so he thought.
93rardo 1 month ago
@thegoodgeneral Probably for tact in an early campaign....the real desperation came near the end of the European Theatre(1944-1945)
Sizerian 2 months ago
And Hitchens is decomposing. from cancer and chemo.Even the most perfect human in the history of the world can't live forever.No one loves themselves as much as Hitchens.
theseventhprotocol 3 months ago
@theseventhprotocol clearly you're a knobhead who is devoid of both humanity and understanding, just like hitler youre a psychopath
catherinelois1 2 months ago
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catherinelois1 2 months ago
@theseventhprotocol : That's unfair! Hitchen always put his homosexual lovers first!
Wikipedia: Hitchens has written of his homosexual experiences when in boarding school in his memoir, "Hitch-22." These experiences continued in his college years when he allegedly had relationships with two men who eventually became a part of the Thatcher government.
procommenter 1 month ago
You can, of course, claim that the amount of time spent in educating the doctor needs to be factored into his remuneration, but this is sophistry. Experience makes the man, not the 10-odd years in med school.
Plainly then, the value of work is not merely a reflection of accumulated effort, but also of skill, responsibility, impact it has on others' productivity, demand, etc. This is why Marx's reductionism is just plain wrong. Value is in my opinion subjective
Vide1et1lacrima 3 months ago
@TennisAnnalyst Curious how you propose to do that. Marx essentially equates effort to value; this , while it underpins his theory, makes sense in a world where an hour of surgeon's work is of no more worth than an hour of a ditch diggers work. Plainly this cannot be so, for a single doctor makes it possible for many ditch diggers to do their work ( live potentially longer, productive lives), while a single ditch digger's work - necessary though it is - does not. worth of Labour is unequal.
Vide1et1lacrima 3 months ago
What you appear to fail to understand here is that the very reason we engineer SOCIAL CIRCUMSTANCES is so that we may select our offspring for success, to tip the scales in their favour. You are guaranteed failure if you predicate a system on rules which deny this. This is very basic behaviour, not only human & primate but found in most social mammals. Hierarchies come into being because of the natural & inherent inequality of natural endowment. The alpha cub is an alpha cub even if he's weak
Vide1et1lacrima 3 months ago
@TennisAnnalyst It is the opportunity to make my children's future better - at the expense of your children, if it comes to that - which drives me to achieve. The perspective of not having my children do what I must do is the reward. It is always so, in every society you'd care to mention. Genes are selfish & societies have strata; this is why all systems where an mediating authority exists are inherently abusable & will always be abusable. We wouldn't have them any other way.
Vide1et1lacrima 3 months ago
@TennisAnnalyst The main problem with Marx' notion of class & class struggle lies in sloppy fit to reality and definitions which, if taken as literally as Marx took them, would today invalidate the theory predicated upon them. Marx definiton of class is always in relation to production & the ownership/ control of means of production. This does not translate at all well to a post-industrial or merely modern society or a service based / information economy.
Vide1et1lacrima 3 months ago
@TennisAnnalyst Sewage, water supply and educational opportunity should be enough for anyone. It is the nature of all economical systems to fluctuate with demand, supply and environmental conditions underlying these. One cannot expect ( nor does one see it in nature) unlimited growth. In nature statism means death. Intervening in the economy brought us to our present state.
Vide1et1lacrima 3 months ago
@TennisAnnalyst The problem with using class struggle to explain social evolution is that it is reductionist and does not account for many society affecting phenomena, some are stalking the modern world as we type. As with many reductionist systems, 'explaining' social evolution in terms of class struggle is a lousy fit & sloppy science. Class struggle, as Marx used it, is ideological. The whole idea of reducing all of social complexity to issues of property is ideological.
Vide1et1lacrima 3 months ago
@TennisAnnalyst Actually, it was the advent of the factory towns and subsequent urban restructuring that gave us public transport, sewage, public education, modern medicine, electrification & majority of what we now consider to be modern technological civilization. While at the very beginning working conditions were atrocious, they changed for the better because it was good for business not to loose your workforce to diphtheria, typhus or cholera. Thanks to the capitalist.
Vide1et1lacrima 3 months ago
@TennisAnnalyst Unequal chances is the very thing which drives the ambitious & talented. Take that away and soon you'll find them re-appearing in other, more insidious ways. This is the way that communist nomenclature worked. Take one look at formerly communist countries & you'll see that it is the former party bosses and secret services folk who dominate the economy & society. Also, there hasn't been anything like 'totally free capitalism' since the turn of the 19th century.
Vide1et1lacrima 3 months ago
@TennisAnnalyst Communizing capitalism is what you have now. Sometimes the only way to be kind is to be cruel, and this means removing any and all crutches. Social programs result in anti competitive practices, this in turn means less talented people wasting our limited time & resources. Having said that, universal access ( on merit alone) to education is a splendid idea.
Vide1et1lacrima 3 months ago
@TennisAnnalyst As history has shown, it was the autocratic and stultifying communist policy which stifled initiative and promoted laziness. Any system based on the erroneous assumption that a brain surgeon deserves no more than a street sweeper will discourage attempts at bettering one's lot, given that no matter what the effort applied, the remuneration will be the same as that of a drudge.
Vide1et1lacrima 3 months ago
@TennisAnnalyst If the failed experiment with communism has taught us anything at all, its that attempts at re-making man and re-distributing property end in economic and social calamity. It isn't merely a question of man being inherently selfish - he is - but the irresponsibly reductionist approach to sociology which reduces all interactions to property transactions and all relations to economical ones. Wherever we look at 'communism' today we see aggressive capitalism.
Vide1et1lacrima 3 months ago
@TennisAnnalyst Actually, life expectancy in the early 1800 had more to do with cramped, unhygienic conditions of industrial centers and lack of effective medical treatment ( germ theory of disease was only formulated in the 1850's) than with capitalism. Of course it was capitalism which drove the industrial revolution; we might as well blame the irish land tennacy & the catholic church ( and not potato monoculture, susceptible to blight) for the irish potato famine.
Vide1et1lacrima 3 months ago
@TennisAnnalyst This is not merely the question of ' what they did with Marx's work' but of Marx's own intent & interpretation. Too often Marx is presented as 'misinterpreted'. The Communist manifesto makes no such evasions: 'The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions.' - Marx sets communism up to be the enemy of mankind to benefit the drudges.
Vide1et1lacrima 3 months ago
@TennisAnnalyst 'Class struggle' used as a justification for extermination of whole populations 'exists' in the same way as race theory 'existed', and for much the same purpose . It is one way of interpreting available data, alas, just as invalid. Not that long ago phrenology ( study of cranium shape ) was used as scientific evidence of moral degeneracy & criminality in court, while women were considered naturally inferior to men on similarly 'scientific' grounds.
Vide1et1lacrima 3 months ago
@TennisAnnalyst I actually understand that 'class struggle' meant innocent millions of the bourgeoisie, land owners and peasants were shot, beaten and starved to death on this flimsy excuse, in order to solidify the Bolshevik power base and in order to collectivize farming - as an example. Both were economically disastrous to all except the top brass of the party. Revolutionary terror and economic chaos alone reaped millions of innocent dead, children as well as adults.
Vide1et1lacrima 3 months ago
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A question for atheists. In a world where there's no proof of God's existence or of life after death; how will you explain to your children why you brought them into the world and why they should die?
QuestionForAtheists 5 months ago
Nazi. Zombie.
MaxAC40 5 months ago
Read Robert G.L. Waite's "The Psychopathic God: Adolph Hitler."
Pre-dates Hitchens on this issue.
Easleytee 6 months ago
When you see through Hitler, a thing that ewery 5th grader can do, why do you buy the exuses of the german generals?
aon10003 7 months ago
Ya know who else was decomposing then? Mozart.
bnrshdydvdrtrk 7 months ago
@bnrshdydvdrtrk the decomposing composers ....
Vide1et1lacrima 3 months ago
real talk
kravens001 8 months ago
this is interesting.
LiamMcRaeMusic 8 months ago
Very interesting take on the leader of the Reich by Hitchens.
georgekostaras 8 months ago
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the "Holocaust" deceit coupled with "Israel" signifies when the jews abandoned their long-awaited "Messiah" in order to serve as their own messiah. But now the many lies about the Germans have unraveled and the jewish supremacists have been exposed once more. Perhaps less than 100,000 jewish deaths resulted from WWII which was instigated at the behest of the international jewish bankers. The jews have profited unbelievably from WWII but in return forfeited their "Messiah".
BlessedBeTheTruth 9 months ago
@BlessedBeTheTruth ....its so sad to hear you spout your hateful lies. Antisemitism is like a Mental health disease that spreads through the weak minded. Please people vote down this deluded idiots post.
tiamonke 6 months ago
Hitler, just as many leader in the 20th century, was known to be given large amounts of IV amphetamines to keep him awake and get the work done. This is a short-term solution, because if you have ever seen a meth addict you will realise it starts to physically destroy your mind and body...
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
I do have to say that Hitler was not a sociopath he lacks the symptoms.
rollokb2 9 months ago
@rollokb2 He says a psychopath, which, it seems to me, he was. Why would you say he lacks the symptoms. He didn't seem to have much human feeling, and was shrewd and uncaring in getting what he wanted.
jerryhello100 8 months ago 2
Qwerty is quite right. There were no plans to invade the West. Just look at the German troop concentrations and movements. His West flank was totally unguarded, he had no airfields or military bases to the West which you would have expected if he had planned a Westward assault.
As for Japans attack on the US, this was cleverly instigated by the US by the means of almost completely stopping the oil supply to Japan. Japan had 2 choices, go without oil or fight the US and get the supply back.
porty500 10 months ago
@porty500
Why are you an apologist for German and Japanese despotism?
Obasiliasfilosofos 5 months ago
@Obasiliasfilosofos
Its nothing about apology its just about facts.
These are facts. Unfortunately its not the history they teach you as they want to portray the allies as the good guys but, this is what happened and history cannot be changed.
If you don't like the truth then i suggest you carry on watching those Hollywood fairytales they keep putting on the screen which eventually people start to believe, just like you.
porty500 5 months ago
@porty500
If you want me to accept your version of history you need to provide tangible evidence not emotional pleadings added with ad hominem attacks, ? American freedom allows thankless ungrateful scum like you the right to express your hateful anti-american ideology ,Hitler stripped his own people of such rights it was his regime that rounded up & executed college students in munich simply for handing out antiwar leaflets. .
Obasiliasfilosofos 5 months ago
@Obasiliasfilosofos
LOL.. So posting facts you don't like is anti American? The evidence is all around you. Its on the internet, the Imperial war museum in London, documentary programs, the Russian state archives. This information is widely available on the internet.
That same American freedom also allows brainless idiots like you to spout trash and nonsense all over the internet just because you don't have the intellect to research it for yourself and admit you are wrong.
porty500 5 months ago
@porty500
, Once again you made the claim you present the evidence, You haven't so much as offered a single link ! You say documentary programs what doc's then?!! I don't live in the fucking UK and I don't read Russian either!
Obasiliasfilosofos 5 months ago
@Obasiliasfilosofos
Documentaries? OK, try the world at war for one.
Don't live in the UK? OK. Fly there i did. And i live in New Zealand.
Don't speak Russian. Not a problem, go to Moscow and hire an interpreter. A good one will cost you $5 a day max. I speak from experience.
Links. My God man how useless are you? A simple google search will bring up 30,000 hits full of all the information to back up my post, not that it's ground breaking news in the first place anyway.
porty500 5 months ago 2
Starting the war while Hitler was still in power was the best move in the end, Unless hitchens thinks that waiting untill the Fuhrer kills over & gets replaced by his more capable lieutenants like Heinrich Himmler would somehow improve things, much less the fact that delaying the fight would mean that the German scientist would have more time to complete their Black projects, Fascist Italy would also have been deadlier opponent in 1950 then it actually was in 1940.
Obasiliasfilosofos 5 months ago
@Obasiliasfilosofos,
What you are saying is incorrect, coercive regimes only rot countries. North Korea is weaker every year, the USSR maybe made for a potential enemy in 1950 but was a complete joke by 1980, Germany and/or Italy could have been cleaned with a spoon by 1950 (and with a straw by 1960). Countries don't get "stronger" as they dive in coercive regimes - you have your facts backwards. Mao died in 1976 and China gave up on coercive/centralized planning then - result speaks for itself.
marcabela 5 months ago
@marcabela
You misunderstood the point I was making , You assume that a Hitlerless Third Reich would not continue the drive for military expansion and war in the short term rather then sit around and rot like the USSR.
Your mixing apples and oranges, The USSR and the Third Reich are very different beasts, the soviet union was a leftist Utopianist state and you had a reformist leadership that took power from within that made the conscious choice to abolish state coercion.
Obasiliasfilosofos 5 months ago
@Obasiliasfilosofos actually, no. The USSR and the III reich were very similar; inspired by largely the same socialist ethos. In both cases, Utopian aspirations served as an excuse for a totalitarian power grab; the USSR was more coercive with respect to its population than the Reich. The reich used a flawed race theory to justify its depredations - the USSR used a flawed sociology ( class war) to justify its own purges and extermination of national and cultural minorities.
Vide1et1lacrima 4 months ago
@Vide1et1lacrima
No they did not both have Utopian aspirations, Nazism aim & goal was never to create a Utopian perfectly just & harmonious society, they sought dominion & mastery over the inferior Untermensch the total inverse of communist internationalism, Unlike Marxism they romanticized war & military conquest. Both where totalitarian but their social ethos and economic philosophy was far from being the same.
Obasiliasfilosofos 4 months ago
@Obasiliasfilosofos The idea of a racially pure german population in the middle of europe, ruling subservient untermenschen & lasting a 1000 years is a pure german utopia. Of course it was just as nonsensical & utopian as the idea of the 'soviet man'. In both cases atrocities were committed in the name of the common ideal. In both cases external enemies and political terror were used as a means of controlling the population. Both waged offensive war. both centrally controlled the economy.
Vide1et1lacrima 3 months ago
@Vide1et1lacrima
There is a big difference between "Hitler's dream" and that of the soviets , Is that the soviets were at-least on paper presenting the promise of a egalitarian society much like Star-trek, Where poverty ,social-injustice & exploitation would be eliminated with mankind joined together as "comrades" in one big family regardless of Race & Nationality , The complete reverse of Hitlerism, Communists sought to recruit altruistically motivated people.
Obasiliasfilosofos 3 months ago
@Obasiliasfilosofos The nazi were just as happy to recruit anyone considered 'germanic' or even merely not jewish or slavic. There were idealistic young french, finns, latvians, estonians, belgians and dutch young men in dedicated waffen SS divisions...they even recruited the croats and bosnian muslims. The parallels are quite close, for all the soviet claims to the contrary. For an accessible history of Communist-Nazi parallels I suggest "the soviet story" right here on Youtube.
Vide1et1lacrima 3 months ago
@Vide1et1lacrima
Third Reich economy was not a centrally planned economy, It was a mixed economy that never aimed to abolish private capital nor did it seek to transfer ownership of the means of production to worker communes by robbing wealthy industrialists of their property. At most they wanted to eliminate free-labor unions and create party worker syndicates establishing a labor cartel.
Obasiliasfilosofos 3 months ago
@Obasiliasfilosofos The third Reich was a command economy. The Nazis avoided the outward forms ( nationalization) but kept the essence, in that wages, labour conditions, raw material supply, industrial orders and most importantly - the money supply - were firmly controlled by the government. By eliminating labour unions and providing slave labour where it was expedient, the Nazi war machine was kept rolling. The difference waspretty much in name only.
Vide1et1lacrima 3 months ago
North Korea is still going and when Kim Jong Il regency assumes control they may very well shift the country in the same direction as china & vietnam, China is still a coercive tightly governed police state at present!! All that changed in china was its shift away from central planning to free market capitalism while still skipping over civil rights and democratization!
Obasiliasfilosofos 5 months ago
@marcabela
I was not speaking in terms of "growing stronger politically" I was thinking in military terms, Mussolini would have had the time he needed to complete full production of his arms industry in order to get the Italian army ready to full capacity for a prolonged war , Hitler & Mussolini made a pact to do just that and Hitler broke the agreement forcing his ally to join the war at half strength.
Obasiliasfilosofos 5 months ago
Also, what just of shithead makes and account and has nothing on his channel page? lmfao.. what a dumbass troll.
zeineguy 10 months ago
hitchens is a fuckin commie
TakisAthensGr 11 months ago
@TakisAthensGr K'esei ena keratos , malaka mou .
zarquon53 11 months ago
Have you read Mein Kampf? He wanted to kill all Jews and make slaves of all the Slavic people. After that, he would have gone west. His rule was one of war. If he didn't have any enemies, he had to invent some. Otherwise Germany would have collapsed. And why the fuck would you defend Hitler? He was a pshychopath who wanted to rule the Earth. Just because before the war he claimed he didn't, just meant he was lying
Tharrel 1 year ago
@Tharrel "After that, he would have gone west."
Hitler was never going to go west, never mind take over the earth. There is zero evidence for that.
"wanted to rule the Earth."
Hitler was never going to go west, that is a myth. That is comic-book style history, give evidence.
qwertypoiu4321 1 year ago
@qwertypoiu4321 WTF? What, are you fucking high or something? Quit trying to rewrite history asshole.
Capt777harris 1 year ago
@Capt777harris Hitler was never going to expand west, never mind take over the earth. That is a comic-book level myth. Grow up.
qwertypoiu4321 1 year ago
@qwertypoiu4321 Bull fucking shit! It was part of his whole manifesto. It's part of the reason he developed the Amerika bomber which never saw production; specifically to bomb the US east coast.
You're just some sack of shit racist fuck who knows jack about geo-politics or warfare.
You grow the FUCK UP.
Capt777harris 1 year ago
@Capt777harris The Amerika Bomber Project was a defensive response to the increased US move to invade Germany, starting with Roosevelt's Quarantine speech. That is not Hitler going west, never mind taking over the earth. Idiot.
qwertypoiu4321 1 year ago
@qwertypoiu4321 Absolute bullshit! Christ, where do you get your goddamn history, at a nazi website? Hitler had mystical ideals of building a white empire, ergo his speeches. The bomber project was well underway before our involvement, but didn't see commitment until later in the war. Shit, read ANY NASA publication on the subject.
Capt777harris 1 year ago
@Capt777harris "Hitler had mystical ideals of building a white empire, ergo his speeches."
Hitler wanted a German Empire that was relevent like Britain in Europe, whom he admired along with Italy. That is not expanding west, never mind taking over the earth. The defensive Amerika Bomber project was not 'underway' until 1942, after the US was involved in invading Germany.
Hitler was not going to expand west, never mind take over the earth. That is comic-book, child history.
qwertypoiu4321 1 year ago
@qwertypoiu4321 Oh give me a break. They the fuck did he invade Russia? Why go after England? Why go north to the Scandanavian countries? You know jack about hi intents.
Capt777harris 1 year ago
@Capt777harris Hitler invaded Russia because he needed to give a blow to Britain's allies, and since he could not militarily stop the US from invading he decided Russia. Hitler started the northern campaign after seeing Britain show it was about to invade Norway, which would have been fatal to Germany. Have you ever heard of the Norway debacle that propelled Churchill to power? That is not going west, never mind taking over the earth; that is a pure myth.
qwertypoiu4321 1 year ago
@qwertypoiu4321 You're missing the point, WHY DO IT AT ALL??? The man was a military aggressor. It doesn't matter what he said his intentions were, nor what morons like you believe, it's what he did. He lied and lied again about where he would stop. Every single fucking dictator has done the same exact thing; take some, then more and more until somebody (or group of somebodies) gang up to stop them. Remember the non-aggression pact he signed? Enough said, asshole.
Capt777harris 1 year ago
@Capt777harris He was not the aggressor, Poland was the aggressor by keeping Germans under Polish rule. Britain should have reversed Versailles when Germany was run by democrats and not by Fascist Nazi's. Since Britain did not do that, when the Nazi's did come to power Britain should have pushed forth Italy's Four-Power Pact. Since that did not happen what Britain should have done was not give a war guarantee to keep German's under Polish rule,
qwertypoiu4321 1 year ago
but draw a line across the French/Low country border and say to Germany, whatever you do in regard to Versailles and the East, if you cross this line you are at war with Britain and France. Germany would have never crossed that line, just as the more militarily aggressive Stalin never crossed the Elbe River during the Cold War.
qwertypoiu4321 1 year ago
@qwertypoiu4321 Dude, you are so full of shit it's almost laughable, if it wasn't for the topic at hand.
THE FACT WAS IT WAS BROKEN BY A DESPOT WHO WANTED TO RUL:E THE WORLD YOU MORON!
Capt777harris 1 year ago
@Capt777harris "DESPOT WHO WANTED TO RUL:E THE WORLD"
You have no evidence Hitler even 'wanted' to go west, never mind your ignorant statement he 'wanted to rule the world'. You did not respond to one of my points because that would require not having the intellectual capacity of a child. Comic-book myths do not refute facts. Either give evidence Germany wanted to take over the earth(there is none) or admit you have the mental capacity of a zoo animal.
qwertypoiu4321 1 year ago
@qwertypoiu4321 What, him yelling his head off to German throngs, speeches captured on tape? Pull your head out of your ass.
Capt777harris 1 year ago
@Capt777harris If he was "yelling his head off" about wanting to, as you say, "RULE THE WORLD", it would make it that much easier for you to give me some evidence of Hitler wanting to take over the earth. Hitler was never going the expand west, never mind take over the earth, that is child-history.
qwertypoiu4321 1 year ago
@qwertypoiu4321 have read your and Capt discussion; and just wondering why you both are leaving out facts from history? It was not just Germany in this war. The Italians and Japanese were fighting with hitler. and the fact that Japan had control of many asian countries, attests to that. So to say Hitler was not going to take over the world is partly right, but factually, with his allies, they were trying to do just that. Of course we all know history and the Japanese made a tactical error
zeineguy 11 months ago
@zeineguy Hitler was 'trying to' stop the unsolicited invasion of Germany, nothing else.
qwertypoiu4321 10 months ago
@qwertypoiu4321 lmfao. wake up dude.. maybe your from a parrallel universe where Hitler is adored... lol.
zeineguy 10 months ago
@zeineguy Hitler was never going to expand west, never mind take over the earth; that is comic-book style history. That is a myth.
qwertypoiu4321 10 months ago
@qwertypoiu4321 You have NO clue what he was going to do, because he got STOPPED!!! period. History is as it is. The reason the WORLD countries went against Germany and their Alliances. Since NO ONE could read his mind, no one knows what his plans were.. Only people who can guess and wonder. So please stop your bull shit posting and stop dreaming that Hitler was a nice guy. Next your going to tell everyone that the Holocaust never happened?? LMFAO dumb fucking asshole.
zeineguy 10 months ago
@zeineguy Britain declared war on Germany to keep germans under polish rule, that is what started the war, not Germany. Hitler was never going to expand west, never mind take over the earth; that is comic-book history. You are getting belligerent because you can not find ONE piece of evidence showing Germany going west or wanting to take over the earth, the reason for this is because this is a myth. Go get a basic education of WWII before you comment any further.
qwertypoiu4321 10 months ago
@qwertypoiu4321 Obviously you only commented as always troll. you didnt even read my comment. Maybe you are objecting that there was an alliance? do you even understand what that means? seriously.
The war, as with most wars, is not about power but about money. How the central banking system, which is an ENGLAND based bank, controls countries but also loans to both sides of the war. DUH> maybe you need to learn a bit more about economics.
zeineguy 10 months ago
@zeineguy Still no evidence? The Tripartite Pact was a defensive pact, nothing more. Hitler was never going to expand west, never mind take over the earth; that is child history, with zero evidence.
qwertypoiu4321 10 months ago
@qwertypoiu4321 I suggest you do a bit more research. Hitler planned an enormous ocean-going battlefleet.His "Table Talk" conversationsmention settling with Japan andeventuallytheUS-taking Europe was Hitler's Act One; Asia and America would have to wait a decade or two.
kentamitchell 10 months ago
@kentamitchell The whole post-1939-9 policy was tactical to end the invasion of Germany, which Britain started to keep germans under polish rule. That is hardly expanding west, never mind taking over the earth. I have Hitler's Table Talk, I did not see anything (at all!) about 'taking' Europe, Asia and America. Where on earth are you getting this information in that book?
qwertypoiu4321 10 months ago
@qwertypoiu4321 "The invasion of Germany"?That didn't start til Sept.1944
kentamitchell 10 months ago
@kentamitchell The unsolicited declaration of war against Germany started with Britain/France 1939-9. This brought everything on the table to stop this unsolicited invasion, including preparing for possible invasions by Russia and the US. Once again, I have Hitler's Table Talk and I did not see anything (at all!) about 'taking' Europe, Asia and America. Where on earth are you getting this information in that book?
qwertypoiu4321 10 months ago
@qwertypoiu4321 Google "Hitler America" & read Professor Weinberg's excellent article.For more on Hitler's plans for America,read Hitler's Second Book.
kentamitchell 10 months ago
@kentamitchell I have Hitler's Table Talk and Hitler's Second Book, neither ever (at any point!) say anything about 'taking' Europe, Asia or the US. Nowhere in the Weinberg article or either book is there ever anything about 'taking' Europe, Asia or the US.
Where on earth are you getting this information in either of these books?
qwertypoiu4321 10 months ago
@qwertypoiu4321 wow nice to see you are taking ALL your knowledge from ONE book lmfao. you are fucking unbelievable. Germany was in an ALLIANCE with ITALY, facsist govt and Japan.. ROYALTY govt. seriously, your just a fucking troll. do you have a hitler picture on your wall that you adore everyday? lmfao.
zeineguy 10 months ago
@kentamitchell dont worry , querty is just a troll that doesnt have the true facts about what happened in WW2. I am guessing the Japanese bombing Pearl harbor was just a mistake for another NON USA island that they wanted to conquer. LMFAO. I am guessing in qwerty world, history was written another way. maybe in his world Hitler was the nice guy and everyone else were the conquerers hmmmm oh well you will never win an arguement with a troll.
zeineguy 10 months ago
@qwertypoiu4321 Poland was the aggressor? What 'alternative history' are you sourcing from now? Hitler's flimsy excuse for invading Poland was the Gdansk corridor, the demand for which would have removed Poland's one access to the sea. Much as with his demands for the sudetenland, the idea of uniting Germans in one reich was simply an excuse for waging aggressive, offensive war.
Vide1et1lacrima 3 months ago
@Tharrel I agree with you mostly I think, in that nazism of course is bad at least lol,
but Hitler did not initally want a war with Britain and France, he somewhat admired the empires they had built. (Through war and violence too.)
He wanted something like that for Germany, and take it from eastern Europe and enslave the people there (which of course was a evil idea.)
But I think it's maybe time to discuss this with a little less emotion, and a bit more objectivity?
TheDecayingmaterial 1 year ago
Hitler was not going to expand west, nevermind take over the earth. The British should have accepted the four-power pact, but they wanted a war over nothing, and that is what eventually happened.
qwertypoiu4321 1 year ago
@qwertypoiu4321
Sure, let him have the Poles, Czechoslovacs. Lithuania, and so many other countries. Let him make slaves of those people (that's what he wanted). And do you really think, that he wouldn't go to France later on? You are an idiot if you do.
Tharrel 1 year ago
@Tharrel Hiter wanted German-Danzig from Poland and the German-Sudetenland from Czechoslovakia. Halifax went to Germany and told Hitler Britain agreed with him on this. That is not expanding west, nevermind taking over the earth.
qwertypoiu4321 1 year ago
@qwertypoiu4321
Hitler wanter his "race" to rule all the other people. If Britain kept having the apeasment policy, the whole Europe would speak German now. Hitler was a crazy racist. And the idea for me, as a Pole, to give Polish Gdańsk (Danzig) away is outragous.
Tharrel 1 year ago
@Tharrel Hitler wanted to reverse some of Versailles, with some possible exceptions in the East. German-Danzig was 85-90% German in 1920, having been part of the German Empire since 1871. That is not even going west, never mind taking over the earth.
qwertypoiu4321 1 year ago
"So it makes no sense that the likes of Rothchilds funded Hitler to power because elitists like him lost their influence in Germany. "
If you look at the larger pic you'll see that basically the same people now OWN THE WORLD.
All you need to do is google "Rothschild power" & do some digging & perhaps you'll find that they have A LOT MORE OF IT TODAY! Evil is clever you know...
Hitler was the "boogeyman" the world SAW. The actual brains are always lurking In the shades...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
Hitchens is mentally and physically decomposing
Isleifur90 1 year ago
@Isleifur90
I agree with you that Hitchens doesn't look good, and I'd add not honest at all!
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
*Syphilitic
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
(8) that NOONE -certainly not the public- is in a position to dress any kind of coherent & credible psychological profile of...
This indicates covering up of data & a concoction designed for mainstream consummation...
Hitchens NOW says "we know NOW AH was physically & mentally decomposing?!"
Do you REALLY think this wasn't known all along?!
I for one could SEE it merely looking at some particularly telling pics of him.
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
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Lastly, I'm quite aware an obscure "childhood firend" -Kubizek I believe - and others, nazi officials, have provided info on AH.
However, 70 years later, historians are still speculating about the man -"Did he have 1 testicle? Was he siphylitic? Who was his grandfather? etc" and the narrative simply seems put together and doesn't LIVE, generating some kind of hazy, highly undefinite mystique, obscure evil creature,
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
Clearly a disinforming establishment-puppet.
Hitler was being medicated all along. Syphilis? Pfft!
Interesting that on youtube there's NO FOOTAGE WHATSOEVER on Hitler talking -talking, not screaming at some rallye.
There's is NOTHING that could provide us with some direct insight into who the man even was, like an interview.
We simply must believe concocted narratives.
"We now know."
Indeed! Who's "we"?
Hitler was clearly unpresentable and he was clearly FULLY CONTROLLED.
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious Actually... Historians have only one recorded instance of Hitler talking (this is due to the fact that he was insecure about his image and didn't want to let the public know that he was actually a normal human). It's a quite melancholy conversation and was recorded only by accident, but it was between Hitler and a secretary discussing some file report.
However, we also have his book, Mein Kampf. And we have documents that describe him as moody and very irritable.
DrLoafer 1 year ago
@DrLoafer
"Historians have only one recorded instance of Hitler talking (this is due to the fact that he was insecure about his image and didn't want to let the public know that he was actually a normal human)."
Well, that's the "official reason", isn't it? We're just gonna have to "believe" again. Can't check out the most notorious man of the 20th century...
NOT good enough for me.
Mein Kampf written by Hitler? I don't think so...
Do you know where that one recording you mention is?
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobviouswww.dredmundforster.info/hitler-secret-recording
There you are. And actually it's one of few... And yes, Mein Kampf was written by Hitler while in jail shortly after being arrested for "political crimes" during his first unsuccessful attempt to rise to power.
Don't debate this please, you're only going to get your ass handed to you.
DrLoafer 1 year ago
@DrLoafer
"Don't debate this please, you're only going to get your ass handed to you."
He he he.
Thanks for the link, but it's just a short audio-tape.
Of course I'm quite aware of the official versions. Yes, Hitler landed in jail for a -remarkably- short time after the Beer Hall Putsch & supposedly wrote MK there. However, how can we be sure he was the actual brain of it? What if it was Haushofer, through Hess, who was with Hitler EVERY FRIGGIN day in jail noting it all down?
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@DrLoafer
(2)
Do you really think individuals SEIZE POWER like Hitler did? Of course not. From the very start, we see that Hitler was a puppet of elites, who PUT HIM IN POWER.
The world now has received some boogeyman narrative about AH being the "most evil man on earth", an evil genius. This narrative is hardly checkable, we just have to believe, and I reiterate that it's BIZARRE & very fishy that no clear footage like a filmed interview exists of him & ...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@DrLoafer
(3)
...& that the reason is most probably that he was so ostentatiously moronic that anybody today would IMMEDIATELY have realized that he wasn't the brain behind it all, and gasp in shock at how idiotic he seems.
On pics in the late 30s you can actually see AH already looks like a shadow of a man, looking mediacted actually, like some Alzheimer patient. He looks to me as if he could hardly THINK.
Interestingly, when looking at the Berchtesgaden footage, ...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@DrLoafer
(4)
...you can actually spot high officials constantly appear to be SMIRKING at AH behind his back. It seems they're all thinking: "Wow, how did it all happen? THIS is the moron that has made the world tremble?!? AMAZING!! How stupid are people!!!"
They all appear to eye him in amazement, as if he were some difform monster in a freak show. NO SIGNS OF FEAR WHATSOEVER.
The diary by Traudl Junge furthermore is downright BIZARRE,
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@DrLoafer
(5)
...HEAVILY EDITED of course & released MANY DECADES after the facts & showing an unreal AH. The book so completely lacks in realism and psychological insight that it' is simply ridiculous. Note AH appears to have a doctor around him all the time, gets his regular injections and pills and appears to be some autistic, damaged child rather than a monstrous genius.
Consider that who AH was is being COVERED UP.
There is NO GOOD & CLEAR info ...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@DrLoafer
(6)
...and footage on the most notorious man in the world. This, besides his obscure background & bizarre rise to power should make anyone think. Germany -even if in shambles after Versailles & flooded with disruptive agents- was hardly a banana-republic you know...
You'll find elite families had a stake in AH from the start & of course, he was merely a USEFUL IDIOT, a front...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious I think you are going a little to far with the conspiracy thing here. Hitler became the Fuhrer of Germany because he actually did something for his nation, he re-enstated German families and their values by putting Germany's recourses directly to benefit all germans. He created a socety so more advanced then anything at that time, a socety without materialism or debt enslavement. National Socialism was also a anti-capitalist and anti-communist political movement.
Isleifur90 1 year ago
@Isleifur90
Please let's not call everything that hasn't been validated by authority a "conspiracy-theory".
"he actually did something,... he re-enstated...he created."
"HE"? What do you mean, "HE"?
The things you mention don't address my argument in any way. What makes you think these things were Hitler's OWN doing? That nazi-policies were implemented, and a lot of things soon started running smoothly is really besides the point I was making, namely that AH was a controlled puppet.
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious Hitler was not a puppet, thats utter bullshit. I know there are alot of controlled puppets now a days who call themselves politicians but Hitlers National Socialist movement came to pass to free the nation of banking capitalism an prevent the further spread of communism in Europe, it was not something that was controlled, it was for a country to lead it out of control of the banking oligarchs.
Isleifur90 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious The sudden rise of nazism and it's sucess was a suprise to all the oligarchs and bankers around the world, that is why they forced the war upon them and still continue to bash and demonize Hitler to this day while expecting us to buy bullshit stories like the holocaust. The true "controlled" country reformation in WW2 was the Bolsheivik revoloution, oligarchs wanted to overthrow the order in Russia so they used puppets like Stalin to keep everything bloodstained enough.
Isleifur90 1 year ago
@Isleifur90
sudden rise a surprise
Really? Anton Drexler from Drexler breweries & many other elites sponsored Hitler from almost immediately after Versailles. He actually received theater lessons if I'm not mistaken, was introduced into high society, and all this while having a completely obscure background This should make anyone think
Hitler's party, his contacts, EVERYTHING set up by elites, EVERYTHING.
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious Anton Drexler was not a political elitist before Hitler came to power, he was a worker most of his life and granted Hitler membership into the German workers party, a standard workers movement party. Hitler then introdouced many set of ideals into the party and reformed it into The NSDAP who were just a group of activists calling forth a social change in Germany. It took them 14 years to plan the social reconstruction of Germany and their program was most sucessful.
Isleifur90 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious I would also like to point out that Hitler was an artist who had interest in many forms of art including theatre, so naturally he was trained for his hobby.
Isleifur90 1 year ago
@Isleifur90
"The sudden rise of nazism and it's sucess was a suprise to all the oligarchs and bankers around the world"
Sorry but you are simply being naieve. Think: HOW does a little corporal rise to power in a post-WW1 Germany?
Look at all those big fortunes. Do you think all those powerful industrials never knew what's going on & sat idly as a little corporal seized power?
That is NOT how the world works & it's NOT what happened.
Check sponsoring elites, right from the very start...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious There were no powerful industrials in post ww1 Germany, the country was ravaged and plundered and most of the national production of goods were severly haltered. So Hitler formulated an engenious plan to boost up German production not for corporate gain but for German citizens.
Isleifur90 1 year ago
@Isleifur90
Drexler family owned the Drexler breweries, one of Bavaria's biggest breweries at the time.
Eckart had an elite background.
ALL the men contacting Hitler early on -1919- & bringing him up to speed had an elite background.
You appear to be a fan of the man and have questioned certain parts of the official narrative we've received.
I suggest you go ONE STEP FURTHER and simply do some research into Hitler's mentors: ALL FROM ELITE families.
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@Isleifur90
You keep reiterating what good the nazi party did. Again: this is BESIDES THE POINT.
I'm sure you've heard "history is written by the victors".
What I'm saying is really not too difficult to understand.
Apparently what you know about AH is what you've learned from the history books.
Who wrote these books? Hmm?
Check the background of the men who brought AH to power, and who remained in the background all along. Dead simple.
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@Isleifur90
When you say "There were no powerful industrials in post ww1 Germany", you make clear that you don't understand that war is a VERY LUCRATIVE BUSINESS for some people.
Look at the Thyssens, the Krupps, the Rothschilds.
Are you suggesting they were BANKRUPT after ww1?
Wrong! They were sitting high and dry and had all "made a killing" during ww1.
All this is basic stuff...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious Ofcourse there were a few elites who made a fortune outof WW1, but the whole country was fucked up and there were no active massive production lines during that time in Germany. As soon as Hitler rose to power the Rothchild empire was threatend, that is why they forced the war upon the third recih because Hitler threatend to end the influence of the banking empire in Europe, he even sayd so in Mein Kampf.
Isleifur90 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious And if you do some actual study on the Third Reich then you see that there was no debt based money Mechanics in the banking system in Germany after Hitler came to power and no morgage loans required from the banks for people to buy a house because the reich accuired a house aswell as a mutch more debt free way of living for all German citizens. So it makes no sense that the likes of Rothchilds funded Hitler to power because elitists like him lost their influence in Germany.
Isleifur90 1 year ago