But in all honesty, I have a different view of what 1984 would be like if it was made into a movie. I was picturing a cleaner, more futuristic type of dystopian society, probably closer to the society in the movie Equilibrium. I think a really good filmmaker should do a remake, so that we'd have a modern version. I just think that this version doesn't have enough of the darkness that the Party really brings. At least that's what I see from the trialer.
Does anybody know where I can find this version of the movie online? I found the version with the classical score, but I'm really curious to see this pop version.
I actually like this trailer. The song might seem somewhat inappropriate, but I think it's more effective than the standard cliche "Oh, this is a serious movie with violin music" trailer you'd expect for a film such as this.
@Morgethein although i'm not sure what version what ever country you come from has... but here in jolly ole england were stuck with the silly pop music score.
This film was a nice tribute to the book, although it has less relavence to the time it came out and doesn't attempt to re-examine the decade it was set in. Terry Gilliams Brazil is proberbly the best 1984 adaption, as it actually fits the horror of 1980's and even more so today.
@LTstudios You just made up my mind. I've been trying to decide whether I wanted to watch Brazil or this, so I've been going through trailers. I haven't seen either. I think I'm going with Brazil and I'm going to read 1984
@Morgethein Lets not forget that the director was forced into using this music in the film over the orginal ocrchestral score that was prepared. The film was produced by Virgin Records see.
But I don't think Nineteen Eighty-Four is one of those novels that are meant to be adapted for film, and with an 80's pop score?! Its unfitting for the novel espically since the novel has a cold dark atmosphere.
I think that classical music would fit the film perfectly espically since Geroge Orwell was very Old Fashioned
it was against the directors will to have a 1980's popular music score. In the 90s the original cut was circulated a bit but I dont think it exists in DVD format.
I've read the first two chapters for my English class and I must say I'm very hooked now! Great book, it's very prophetic to our time I must say. I read the theatrical score was mostly pop music that got forced in, pushing the original orchestral score aside. I'd much prefer watching the version with the original orchestral score. Thankfully it's in the DVD. I want to see the movie already and I'm on chapter 2. (:
It's not ALL grim. Proles live in poverty but are never guilty of thought crime. And if a prole is smart enough to oppose the party, they are brought into the inner party.
The Inner party while being guilty of thought crime could happen, enjoy a high standard of living.
It's the Outer party that have it bad, very few possessions and luxury and are in danger of the thought police.
This is already happening in the UK, especially where the surpression of free speech and mass surveillance is concerned. Everything has to be right, but the masses are too brainwashed to do much.
War on terror = a cheap attempt to force America's way of life onto the Middle East.
Sexcrime = Communicating/working with or coming near minors.
Thoughtcrime (all of which I openly do) = Climate change denial, criticism of religion and multiculturalism, challenging what politicians tell us is right.
But the point is that the Party are constantly forcing the people to believe their world is the best you can get. So having happy music over the trailer makes sense. It puts doublethink itself into action.
This is the American version of the trailer, the British version is better because it's more stark and better carries the impression of hopelessness and despair (The pop song ruins this one)
"Oranges and lemons", say the bells of St. Clement's "You owe me five farthings", say the bells of St. Martin's "When will you pay me?" say the bells of Old Bailey "When I grow rich", say the bells of Shoreditch "When will that be?" say the bells of Stepney "I do not know", says the great bell of Bow Here comes a candle to light you to bed And here comes a chopper to chop off your head!
Oh I think it's impossible for the world to end up like this now because of that book. The people in 1984 aren't stupid they were just unaware of what was happening to them and by the time enough of them realised it was too late.
Our world won't end up like that as we have as much of our freedem to speak as we ever did. And taking away the freedom of speech is one of the key points of 1984.
I disagree. Strongly. You see, this is the reality we're headed for if we keep moving in the direction we are now. Of course, they don't do this openly because then the people wouldn't accept it. This is happening more or less before out eyes and few are standning up and saying something. As for the freedom of speech, it really differs. At some places you aren't allowed to say anything, but others, like the internet, you are.
Guys, I'd hate to be so pessimistic but this already IS a reality - and in some ways it's far more restrained than the outdated tech shown in the movie.
But it has a sugar-coated layer on top of it - like Brave New World.
'We were always at war with East-Asia' = 'We were always at war with Iran/whatever country Israel decides that needs to be plundered by the US
It's sad reading the comments of people who think it's impossible. It already is happening, open your eyes. The model of London with Cameras everywhere, supposedly to protect you is BS. We're in a time where builds can fall perfectly, even better than demolition products and people are dumb enough to believe it's a natural phenomenon. OPEN YOUR EYES. That world is here!
and what happens when there are no cameras around to catch the person who has nothing to fear when they attack you? then you will cry out for justice hypocritically. If you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to fear from CCTV. many court cases against murderers and rapists have been won with the help of cctv evidence... but you would apparently let these predators roam the streets and be consequence-free of their heinous crimes... there is more to it than you mention.
1984 is probably one of my favorite books but after just finishing Brave New World I feel Hulexy is more prophetic.Think about it is America becoming more like Airstrip one with it's cult of personality and violent state or is America becoming more hendonistic and trivial like a Brave New World?
Yes but many of the things that we see in BNW have already come true. I mean our society grows increasingly vain and idiotic with each passing day.The use of prescription drugs to alleviate even the slightest ill feelings is common place.Finally genetic engineering is reaching the point that in the next couple of decades we may see cosmetic gene manipulation.
When I was a child, my mother use to tell me that I would live to see the time when there would be countless reproductions of me (or any other person). I did not know at that time that she was referring to cloning. (She was an MD)
The only thing I really worry about is if the environment will still be sound enough...
It is hard to remain optimistic. I have seen too much damage already during my own lifetime. There are small pockets of repair and recovery here and there, but they are too few. In theory, the Earth can sustain our current population, and even more. The key words are "In theory". Reality is another matter...
cloning is technically already scientifically possible, successful clones have been made of animals (such as dolly the sheep)... Consider that some adoption agencies let couples 'choose' babies according to hair/skin/eye color and we're closer to brave new world than some might think
You are right. America is becoming more hedonistic and trivial like in Brave New World. This has been the case for at least 30 years. I remember the last two recessions, as well as the boom periods, when all the young people could think about was making the big bucks and buying fancy homes and fancy cars and other luxury items.
Huxley did come from a wealthy well known family, while Orwell's background was more miserable. I guess they both projected what they were already living.
the trailer seems a little more upbeat then i imagined for a movie like this. when i read the book, a poppy synthesized beat wasnt the first thing that popped into my head.
One day in the future American, former free people, will wake up with chains in their ankles. Comrade Obama will be our new Primier. Until then, Americans wont know whats freedom. You don't value something until you loose it.
Fine ignore my warning. When you wake up as a slave, you'll remember this country's true Patriots, the ones that warned about big daddy government running our lives.
I agree with you almost completely. however, consider that it was a REPUBLICAN administration that has been spying on your phone calls and tearing the constitution to shreds.
to prove my point, here is the Webster's dictionary definition of liberal.
"one who is generous; greater freedom in political or religious matters; one free from prejudice or narrow thinking.
Just so you know, I used to be Republican, now I'm Libertarian. I left the Republicans when the RNC choose as the Republican nomenee an illigal alien lover that has voted for gun control, and voted to keep the income tax higher. Bush and McCain are no conservatives.
I'm aware of that. I believe that Liberalism and conservatism both have their advantages and weaknesses. and, frankly, the republican party traded conservatism for plutocracy shortly after Regan was elected.
It always strikes me as odd how in the US, "Liberal" is a dirty word. Here in Canada, the Liberal Party is considered the natural ruling party because they're voted in so often (though we're in one of our Conservative patches right now).
Both sides have something to offer, and both have problems. They need to keep the other in check. I've found that Libertarianism (though not necessairly how its practiced by the US Libertarian Party) strikes a good balance.
I agree, but i support the democrats more because (a. MOST of their ideas are good (b. In my opinion Obama is EXACTLY what the nation needs to recover from the last 8 years and (c. the democratic party actually has a good chance of winning this November.
then again, my opinions don't matter much this election since I wont be able to vote until 2012.
I do hope for the sake of your country that Obama beats McCain. Though I disagree with some of his policies, I like Obama as a person, and really feel the country needs someone charismatic like that to bring the country together.
The only chance at all the Libertarians had would've been nominating Ron Paul, and he didn't seek their party's nomination.
I agree. No one will realize how bad Obama is until America specifically becomes like this. The sad part is that the majority will be too brainwashed to stop it. Thought crimminals need to keep their heads and their identities. A world like Orwell's 1984 is just begging for an assasination and caos. Don't be surprised when that happens.
I don't think of Obama as god or a perfect politician like some people do, but I hardly think he's capable of the kind of shit that someone who adheres to the principles of Ingsoc would be capable of. Obama has openly embraced scientific, literary, and cultural aspects of the world that would not be allowed to survive under a regime such as the one depicted in the book.
Oceania is a very real and possible world. But to think that Obama endorses it is more than a tad delusional.
The proletariat (Marxist term meaning the working class.)
"The proletariat (from Latin proles, "offspring") is a term used to identify a lower social class; a member of such a class is proletarian. Originally it was identified as those people who had no wealth other than their sons; the term was initially used in a derogatory sense, until Karl Marx used it as a sociological term to refer to the working class."
but these working class citizens can do as they please - there not in the inner or outer party and face no rules- there just kept happy as 85% of them are the Oceania citizens
my point is they are not watched - they can do whatever, so long as they dont cause a nusience
Animal Farm was another great book by him. Relates to modern day except the pigs don't bother changing the rules. They just tell you it is an old barn wall that doesn't apply any more.
Great adaptation of the book but the new wave "Sex Crime" track playing in the background of this trailer is really incongruous. My guess is that the studios added it in to spice it up a bit for mass appeal and so that the film didn't come off as being too serious or artistic.
Civil War - it's the only way We The People have ever gotten rid of tyranny. It might happen one or two generations from mine (Im 28), but if the government keeps on enforcing its fascist approach then have no doubt that it will happen. We are still on the first phase though,... people are experiencing this awakening everywhere, not just in the US.
It never has been a pleasant time, but every time around we have to go through this, the restoration of our freedom.
When will we humans understand that we live in a cycle?, time is a cycle, a loop, not an undefined never ending line. So what's happening today is just due.
No I agree - the world has to fight off the oppresionin order for people to fairly survive - Lets sincerly hope the US knocks out the facists and terrorists - then the communists - which bare a resemblence to INGSOC as well as the Nazi's
The thing is, not too many people are informed and aware and therefore can be fooled by the powers that be. For example, look at how many sheep (people) follow this guy Obama when he's nothing more than a fraud.
To right - how can they not see hes an terrorist, the powers today see him as a threat but in a way- he's keeping the world as it is - communism is limited and capitilists are allied hunting him - we are told he is an evil person but - what if in fact he's saving the world by killing, then motervating our brains into free thoughts
naaaah hes just an tyrant who needs a decent bullet in his skull
All politicians are frauds. Anyone with a speck of power turns into a fraud. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. There are no terrorists. The communist / nazi party of today is the bush administration. There are no terrorists. The terrorists are the pentagon / the white house. 9/11 was done by them. The only "war" in the middle east is the middle easterners fighting people that have invaded their land.
Yeah I heartidly agree - Bush just seems to be following out a design / a plan prehaps of the future - his father sold weapons to Saddam, and his grandfather to Hitler
you didnt know that? George bush (junior) 's grandfather sold weapons to Adolf Hitler - who was apparantly good friends with him - when the USA got involved in the war - im assuming it would have been ilegal to give arms to germany
who do you think originally funded the taliban (then, the mujahadin, of which Osama Bin Laden was a part of)? You bet your ass it was america... probably in return for some sweet oil prices. Look it up. its called history.
You tell someone to look up histoty and then yourself GUESS that it was PROBABLY some "sweet oil prices"?! There is NO oil in Afghanistan! If YOU looked it up yourself and "studied" history for even a few SECONDS you'd realize it was because America wanted to halt Soviet expansion into the Middle East.
Npowell01 youre right but the mega rich that has pulled the strings of presidents 4 years now can an will create a 1984 effect !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
crazycoyotie 2 months ago
1984 is more like 2012 if ron paul dosent make it 2 the whitehouse
crazycoyotie 2 months ago
1984 is more like 2012 if ron paul dosent get in office
crazycoyotie 2 months ago
Well that song just ruined it for me lol.
But in all honesty, I have a different view of what 1984 would be like if it was made into a movie. I was picturing a cleaner, more futuristic type of dystopian society, probably closer to the society in the movie Equilibrium. I think a really good filmmaker should do a remake, so that we'd have a modern version. I just think that this version doesn't have enough of the darkness that the Party really brings. At least that's what I see from the trialer.
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ronaldsander 3 months ago
This movie is Doubleplusgood!
Abebil3 5 months ago
Does anybody know where I can find this version of the movie online? I found the version with the classical score, but I'm really curious to see this pop version.
bluegrassbaby86 7 months ago
Is this version on Youtube? All I keep seeing is the 1954 version or clips of this version.
bluegrassbaby86 7 months ago
Viddy reported for thoughtcrime. Please rectify.
JohnRobertPosey 8 months ago
Wow, I was just 2o in 1984...
alesamp 9 months ago
you all say look at north korea look at your own lives and think about big brother i think u might be surprised
spgllif 1 year ago
why would you use that repulsive poppy music to sell a film like this.
hubes69 1 year ago
I actually like this trailer. The song might seem somewhat inappropriate, but I think it's more effective than the standard cliche "Oh, this is a serious movie with violin music" trailer you'd expect for a film such as this.
The film is excellent, by the way.
0814ma 1 year ago
The book is pretty scary; however since I notice that North Korea has much orwellian similarities... is scarier
CapitainBeefhartfanO 1 year ago
This reminds me of the Wall movie by Pink Floyd. Not in content of course, but in style.
Beatleslover8033 2 years ago
@Morgethein although i'm not sure what version what ever country you come from has... but here in jolly ole england were stuck with the silly pop music score.
LTstudios 2 years ago
This film was a nice tribute to the book, although it has less relavence to the time it came out and doesn't attempt to re-examine the decade it was set in. Terry Gilliams Brazil is proberbly the best 1984 adaption, as it actually fits the horror of 1980's and even more so today.
LTstudios 2 years ago
@LTstudios You just made up my mind. I've been trying to decide whether I wanted to watch Brazil or this, so I've been going through trailers. I haven't seen either. I think I'm going with Brazil and I'm going to read 1984
xtlhogciao 1 year ago
@Morgethein Lets not forget that the director was forced into using this music in the film over the orginal ocrchestral score that was prepared. The film was produced by Virgin Records see.
LTstudios 2 years ago
Brilliant book!
xojessi 2 years ago
Yes exactly, i don't know if i already said that 1984's music is quite the same and done by machines repeating same lyrics.
The music... The music is almost the same in both.
gombie 2 years ago
It's the 80s you dipshits, half of you saying lame music blah blah are probaly 10 -18 year olds STFU please. You guys have no room to speak
L2xSniper 2 years ago
worst. trailer. ever.
AFascinatingProd 2 years ago
HAHHAHA WHAT A LAME TRAILER!!! xD
grate movie!
TheKisura 2 years ago
not the most appropriate background music!
Fridayplaylist 2 years ago
I knew Richard Burton was in this.
jdmifsud14 2 years ago
Best Novel ever written.
But I don't think Nineteen Eighty-Four is one of those novels that are meant to be adapted for film, and with an 80's pop score?! Its unfitting for the novel espically since the novel has a cold dark atmosphere.
I think that classical music would fit the film perfectly espically since Geroge Orwell was very Old Fashioned
AlexDeLargeisHere 2 years ago 2
it was against the directors will to have a 1980's popular music score. In the 90s the original cut was circulated a bit but I dont think it exists in DVD format.
NinteenNinty3 2 years ago
Totally agree, classics should never be adapted!
Georgia4NZ 2 years ago
Honestly the only director who could adapted it as a potential classic would be Stanley Kubrick, seeing what he did with A Clockwork Orange.
AlexDeLargeisHere 2 years ago
I agree, but i guess this trailer was made to appeal to 1984's people..
What about Brave New world? Pop score would fit it perfectly.
gombie 2 years ago
I've read the first two chapters for my English class and I must say I'm very hooked now! Great book, it's very prophetic to our time I must say. I read the theatrical score was mostly pop music that got forced in, pushing the original orchestral score aside. I'd much prefer watching the version with the original orchestral score. Thankfully it's in the DVD. I want to see the movie already and I'm on chapter 2. (:
DeeROCK93 2 years ago
It's not ALL grim. Proles live in poverty but are never guilty of thought crime. And if a prole is smart enough to oppose the party, they are brought into the inner party.
The Inner party while being guilty of thought crime could happen, enjoy a high standard of living.
It's the Outer party that have it bad, very few possessions and luxury and are in danger of the thought police.
Nebiros21 2 years ago
i no it was made in the eighties but the music so don't go with the book!
FixeLoLinc 2 years ago
This is already happening in the UK, especially where the surpression of free speech and mass surveillance is concerned. Everything has to be right, but the masses are too brainwashed to do much.
War on terror = a cheap attempt to force America's way of life onto the Middle East.
Sexcrime = Communicating/working with or coming near minors.
Thoughtcrime (all of which I openly do) = Climate change denial, criticism of religion and multiculturalism, challenging what politicians tell us is right.
liquidoxygen0 2 years ago 3
I think you hit the nail right on the head.
bagzie 2 years ago
oh god, whats that music?
placebo4yo 2 years ago
Sex Crime by Eurythmics. Eurythmics redorded a soundtrack for the film.
SnakeOnAPlane 2 years ago
yeah. well it doesnt go very good with a totalitarian society. they would have banned this crap. lol
placebo4yo 2 years ago
But the point is that the Party are constantly forcing the people to believe their world is the best you can get. So having happy music over the trailer makes sense. It puts doublethink itself into action.
SnakeOnAPlane 2 years ago
Welcome to North Korea.
hydraa 2 years ago 24
lol
XArqexX 2 years ago
Hahaha!
ChickenGoujons 2 years ago
hydraa: I feel very sorry for the citizens of North Korea right now. Burma, China and Cuba all have it as bad.
liquidoxygen0 2 years ago
@hydraa
Heh, North Korea is only the beginning.
PhilipineMan 11 months ago
This is the American version of the trailer, the British version is better because it's more stark and better carries the impression of hopelessness and despair (The pop song ruins this one)
TashkentFox 2 years ago 3
"Oranges and lemons", say the bells of St. Clement's "You owe me five farthings", say the bells of St. Martin's "When will you pay me?" say the bells of Old Bailey "When I grow rich", say the bells of Shoreditch "When will that be?" say the bells of Stepney "I do not know", says the great bell of Bow Here comes a candle to light you to bed And here comes a chopper to chop off your head!
deepfriedsquirrel 3 years ago 3
Thank you. That is quite good!
Harnolb 3 years ago
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Harnolb 3 years ago
Fuck! I wish people all waked up. :D
Turkisstory 3 years ago
One of the best books i've read so far!It's unique and impressive!
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braxtonmandy 3 years ago
It's unfortunate that the world is headed towards this...
Paddis92 3 years ago 3
Paddis92...
Oh I think it's impossible for the world to end up like this now because of that book. The people in 1984 aren't stupid they were just unaware of what was happening to them and by the time enough of them realised it was too late.
Our world won't end up like that as we have as much of our freedem to speak as we ever did. And taking away the freedom of speech is one of the key points of 1984.
ThatGuy844 3 years ago
I disagree. Strongly. You see, this is the reality we're headed for if we keep moving in the direction we are now. Of course, they don't do this openly because then the people wouldn't accept it. This is happening more or less before out eyes and few are standning up and saying something. As for the freedom of speech, it really differs. At some places you aren't allowed to say anything, but others, like the internet, you are.
Paddis92 3 years ago
Guys, I'd hate to be so pessimistic but this already IS a reality - and in some ways it's far more restrained than the outdated tech shown in the movie.
But it has a sugar-coated layer on top of it - like Brave New World.
'We were always at war with East-Asia' = 'We were always at war with Iran/whatever country Israel decides that needs to be plundered by the US
'Thought-crime' = 'Conspiracy theory/Holocaust denial/Global warming denial'
'Telescreens' = CCTV cameras/Tivo box with microphone
squarepusher2 3 years ago 4
your right, there is needless wars, there is misery, there is brainwashing, its not like none of this stuff exists
igloo50 3 years ago 3
It's sad reading the comments of people who think it's impossible. It already is happening, open your eyes. The model of London with Cameras everywhere, supposedly to protect you is BS. We're in a time where builds can fall perfectly, even better than demolition products and people are dumb enough to believe it's a natural phenomenon. OPEN YOUR EYES. That world is here!
kosai19 3 years ago
and what happens when there are no cameras around to catch the person who has nothing to fear when they attack you? then you will cry out for justice hypocritically. If you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to fear from CCTV. many court cases against murderers and rapists have been won with the help of cctv evidence... but you would apparently let these predators roam the streets and be consequence-free of their heinous crimes... there is more to it than you mention.
herzeleid234 3 years ago 2
Some places it works, some places it don't.
Here in sweden the rapists still walk free even though he admitted that he raped the woman.
Everything fails, it's a shity world and there's nothing one can do about it.
sartanko 3 years ago
This trailer makes the film more exciting than it actually is.
Good book though.
filmfanatic99 3 years ago
1984 is probably one of my favorite books but after just finishing Brave New World I feel Hulexy is more prophetic.Think about it is America becoming more like Airstrip one with it's cult of personality and violent state or is America becoming more hendonistic and trivial like a Brave New World?
Plato86 3 years ago
Huxley's view is 500 years into the future.
GemmBakko 3 years ago
Yes but many of the things that we see in BNW have already come true. I mean our society grows increasingly vain and idiotic with each passing day.The use of prescription drugs to alleviate even the slightest ill feelings is common place.Finally genetic engineering is reaching the point that in the next couple of decades we may see cosmetic gene manipulation.
Plato86 3 years ago 3
When I was a child, my mother use to tell me that I would live to see the time when there would be countless reproductions of me (or any other person). I did not know at that time that she was referring to cloning. (She was an MD)
The only thing I really worry about is if the environment will still be sound enough...
GemmBakko 3 years ago
Be sound enough to support the human race? Who knows but if the population keeps increasing while fertile land keeps eroding I doubt it.
Plato86 3 years ago 2
It is hard to remain optimistic. I have seen too much damage already during my own lifetime. There are small pockets of repair and recovery here and there, but they are too few. In theory, the Earth can sustain our current population, and even more. The key words are "In theory". Reality is another matter...
Just throwing around a few ideas.
Cheers!
GemmBakko 3 years ago 2
cloning is technically already scientifically possible, successful clones have been made of animals (such as dolly the sheep)... Consider that some adoption agencies let couples 'choose' babies according to hair/skin/eye color and we're closer to brave new world than some might think
herzeleid234 3 years ago
You are right. America is becoming more hedonistic and trivial like in Brave New World. This has been the case for at least 30 years. I remember the last two recessions, as well as the boom periods, when all the young people could think about was making the big bucks and buying fancy homes and fancy cars and other luxury items.
Huxley did come from a wealthy well known family, while Orwell's background was more miserable. I guess they both projected what they were already living.
GemmBakko 3 years ago 3
o´brien was a prole . you haven´t read it?
kjsh987 3 years ago
O'Brien is not a prole... he has a fucking butler.
herzeleid234 3 years ago 2
the trailer seems a little more upbeat then i imagined for a movie like this. when i read the book, a poppy synthesized beat wasnt the first thing that popped into my head.
derkaderka58 3 years ago 12
@derkaderka58 Well, that's what the 80's were like.
Tricksterlnsanity 4 months ago
Bush and Cheney?
Westonci 3 years ago
Bush is Big Brother
Cheney is O'Brien
Brownshoe24 3 years ago
One day in the future American, former free people, will wake up with chains in their ankles. Comrade Obama will be our new Primier. Until then, Americans wont know whats freedom. You don't value something until you loose it.
TeamCrusade 3 years ago
LMAO!
You're an idiot.
14691 3 years ago
Fine ignore my warning. When you wake up as a slave, you'll remember this country's true Patriots, the ones that warned about big daddy government running our lives.
TeamCrusade 3 years ago
I agree with you almost completely. however, consider that it was a REPUBLICAN administration that has been spying on your phone calls and tearing the constitution to shreds.
to prove my point, here is the Webster's dictionary definition of liberal.
"one who is generous; greater freedom in political or religious matters; one free from prejudice or narrow thinking.
Ant.-stingy, mean, bigoted, conservative.
spacehelmetforacow 3 years ago
Just so you know, I used to be Republican, now I'm Libertarian. I left the Republicans when the RNC choose as the Republican nomenee an illigal alien lover that has voted for gun control, and voted to keep the income tax higher. Bush and McCain are no conservatives.
TeamCrusade 3 years ago
I'm aware of that. I believe that Liberalism and conservatism both have their advantages and weaknesses. and, frankly, the republican party traded conservatism for plutocracy shortly after Regan was elected.
spacehelmetforacow 3 years ago
Very true.
It always strikes me as odd how in the US, "Liberal" is a dirty word. Here in Canada, the Liberal Party is considered the natural ruling party because they're voted in so often (though we're in one of our Conservative patches right now).
Both sides have something to offer, and both have problems. They need to keep the other in check. I've found that Libertarianism (though not necessairly how its practiced by the US Libertarian Party) strikes a good balance.
Spazman173 3 years ago
I agree, but i support the democrats more because (a. MOST of their ideas are good (b. In my opinion Obama is EXACTLY what the nation needs to recover from the last 8 years and (c. the democratic party actually has a good chance of winning this November.
then again, my opinions don't matter much this election since I wont be able to vote until 2012.
spacehelmetforacow 3 years ago
I do hope for the sake of your country that Obama beats McCain. Though I disagree with some of his policies, I like Obama as a person, and really feel the country needs someone charismatic like that to bring the country together.
The only chance at all the Libertarians had would've been nominating Ron Paul, and he didn't seek their party's nomination.
Spazman173 3 years ago
that is why i am independant. i can take the good from conservatism and liberalism and leave out the bad.
nintendowns 3 years ago
I agree. No one will realize how bad Obama is until America specifically becomes like this. The sad part is that the majority will be too brainwashed to stop it. Thought crimminals need to keep their heads and their identities. A world like Orwell's 1984 is just begging for an assasination and caos. Don't be surprised when that happens.
Blueberry40 3 years ago
Well we DID have a choice... It was between a loser and a bigger loser, so we choose the loser (Obama).
aeckstrand003 2 years ago
if you woulda voted for Ron Paul we wouldnt be in this mess =]
PoetaVSR 2 years ago
Haha, Paultard,
georock123 2 years ago
I don't think of Obama as god or a perfect politician like some people do, but I hardly think he's capable of the kind of shit that someone who adheres to the principles of Ingsoc would be capable of. Obama has openly embraced scientific, literary, and cultural aspects of the world that would not be allowed to survive under a regime such as the one depicted in the book.
Oceania is a very real and possible world. But to think that Obama endorses it is more than a tad delusional.
Npowell01 2 years ago 5
Communism works in theory, not practical
ceg111 3 years ago 3
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jews=satan
loslobos2101 3 years ago
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aversion2k 3 years ago
i love this book! but i only have one question: what exactly are the proles?
HammerToFall13194 3 years ago 2
The proletariat (Marxist term meaning the working class.)
"The proletariat (from Latin proles, "offspring") is a term used to identify a lower social class; a member of such a class is proletarian. Originally it was identified as those people who had no wealth other than their sons; the term was initially used in a derogatory sense, until Karl Marx used it as a sociological term to refer to the working class."
Jihadist 3 years ago
but these working class citizens can do as they please - there not in the inner or outer party and face no rules- there just kept happy as 85% of them are the Oceania citizens
my point is they are not watched - they can do whatever, so long as they dont cause a nusience
DarthChess 3 years ago
This film sounds really groovy, what a great soundtrack!
*S-S-S-E-X*-*CRIME*-*OH*-*OH*-*OH*-*Nine*-*Teen*-*Eighty*-*Four*
Does john Hurt's character get jiggy down the roller disco?
MintySpunkBubble 3 years ago 2
Animal Farm was another great book by him. Relates to modern day except the pigs don't bother changing the rules. They just tell you it is an old barn wall that doesn't apply any more.
xylemphoenix 4 years ago
Great adaptation of the book but the new wave "Sex Crime" track playing in the background of this trailer is really incongruous. My guess is that the studios added it in to spice it up a bit for mass appeal and so that the film didn't come off as being too serious or artistic.
mykrobb 4 years ago
I hope you are right.
Jihadist 4 years ago
Luckily for us a totalitarian society could never survive forever.
Ageoftotalitarianism 4 years ago
WE are beginning to live this novel in real life. Directive 51.
Carlitos1010 4 years ago
I KNOW. I can see parts of 1984 everywhere in the US government.
SnowQueen42 3 years ago 2
This is the first phase of the Revolution - Awakening. I think we all know what the last phase is :(
Carlitos1010 3 years ago
Repression?
SnowQueen42 3 years ago
Civil War - it's the only way We The People have ever gotten rid of tyranny. It might happen one or two generations from mine (Im 28), but if the government keeps on enforcing its fascist approach then have no doubt that it will happen. We are still on the first phase though,... people are experiencing this awakening everywhere, not just in the US.
Carlitos1010 3 years ago
I very much hope that we won't have to go that far, but all evidence leads to the contrary.
SnowQueen42 3 years ago
It never has been a pleasant time, but every time around we have to go through this, the restoration of our freedom.
When will we humans understand that we live in a cycle?, time is a cycle, a loop, not an undefined never ending line. So what's happening today is just due.
Carlitos1010 3 years ago
No I agree - the world has to fight off the oppresionin order for people to fairly survive - Lets sincerly hope the US knocks out the facists and terrorists - then the communists - which bare a resemblence to INGSOC as well as the Nazi's
DarthChess 3 years ago
The thing is, not too many people are informed and aware and therefore can be fooled by the powers that be. For example, look at how many sheep (people) follow this guy Obama when he's nothing more than a fraud.
Carlitos1010 3 years ago
To right - how can they not see hes an terrorist, the powers today see him as a threat but in a way- he's keeping the world as it is - communism is limited and capitilists are allied hunting him - we are told he is an evil person but - what if in fact he's saving the world by killing, then motervating our brains into free thoughts
naaaah hes just an tyrant who needs a decent bullet in his skull
DarthChess 3 years ago
All politicians are frauds. Anyone with a speck of power turns into a fraud. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. There are no terrorists. The communist / nazi party of today is the bush administration. There are no terrorists. The terrorists are the pentagon / the white house. 9/11 was done by them. The only "war" in the middle east is the middle easterners fighting people that have invaded their land.
d1sfigure 3 years ago
Yeah I heartidly agree - Bush just seems to be following out a design / a plan prehaps of the future - his father sold weapons to Saddam, and his grandfather to Hitler
DarthChess 3 years ago
Are you seriously that devoid of sanity?
Prescott Bush sold weapons to Hitler?
My impression of DarthChess: "Hey look at me, I can type any crazy-ass thing I want and try to pass it off as a fact!"
14691 3 years ago
you didnt know that? George bush (junior) 's grandfather sold weapons to Adolf Hitler - who was apparantly good friends with him - when the USA got involved in the war - im assuming it would have been ilegal to give arms to germany
DarthChess 3 years ago
Oh my god, you're right! Those Bushs are pure evil. That stupid monkey President Bush is ten times worse than Hitler, Stalin and Satan combined!
I get your sarcasm now..
14691 3 years ago
right im not sure I really sure what your on because it appears your having intense personality switches
DarthChess 3 years ago
14691, would you mind giving your second personality its own youtube account? it would help make you a LOT more clear.
spacehelmetforacow 3 years ago
huzzzah!
DarthChess 3 years ago
who do you think originally funded the taliban (then, the mujahadin, of which Osama Bin Laden was a part of)? You bet your ass it was america... probably in return for some sweet oil prices. Look it up. its called history.
herzeleid234 3 years ago 2
You tell someone to look up histoty and then yourself GUESS that it was PROBABLY some "sweet oil prices"?! There is NO oil in Afghanistan! If YOU looked it up yourself and "studied" history for even a few SECONDS you'd realize it was because America wanted to halt Soviet expansion into the Middle East.
Hypocrite.
armadillo01 3 years ago
good one, i second it. but just an excuse to get to iraq and fund saddam and then get the oil for cheap
PoetaVSR 2 years ago
Is that Obama at 2:09?
feeknocks 4 years ago 2