I agree slightly with pacetti07. I'm not so sure but The Doctor said that The Daleks killed all the time lords. But he never said that they destroyed Galifrey. I can't remember everything from series 1. If anyone has a opinion to what I said send me a message or comment on my channel.
Davros is not dead. He's 'died' so many times before: getting shot by a Dalek, exploding and foaming, blowing up. They wouldn't kill off a character like that. I say if a Dalek can have an emergency temporal shift then so can their creator...
I wonder if they will say where Davos was Skaro on the episode "The Daleks" with the actor the play the doctor Susan Ian and Barbara. Some people in a Yahoo Doctor Who group hoped Matt Smith would not be a reboot.
"It is returning from the darkness" OBVIOUSLY refers to Russel T Davies' ability to write a decent second part to a two part story (which was exterminated after the first season)
"He will knock four times" OBVIOUSLY refers to Matt Smith, knocking on David Tennant's door and saying 'Look, I've given you a few hours to say your goodbyes to everyone but you've really got to get out of here now so I can move my stuff in.'
according to imdb, john simm will return as the master. Catherine Tate will return as Donna Noble and John Barrowman will return as captain Jack. Also, Timothy Dalton will be starring as a unknown timelord. There is no notification about the actor who playes Davros to make a return. Simply a matter of looking it up...
in all the interviews i've read the words nightmares and dreams keep coming up. so perhaps it won't actually be the characters them selfs returning but the characters camoing in the doctors dream of him looking back on his life right before he regenerates.
if he is not in the xmas special i hope he returns to battle new doc matt smith but as steven moffat is taking over he says that he is'nt using old enemies he's making up new one's but the master is def returning
Davros aint retruning The odd Signa o_0 the odd is Returning from the Darkness cuz on the episode with the oods with dona on the odd said your song it ending :D
David Tennant said in an interview that if we guessed what the knocking ment we would be wrong. I don't think it's the Master, or Davors. The it that is returning is actually the Time Lords home, GALLIFREY!
We're all forgetting about Jenny the doctor's daughter, where is she, she went off in a spaceship and never seen again :P
Spoiler do not read, it's about the master.
There's been rumero's/spottings of the acter who played the master on set of doctor who. There's been rumero's that the master will apear in the water's of mars, but only for a bit, then he gose out.
in the end of series 2 when the cybermen and daleks were sucked into the void, the void was described as the dead space. It was also described as dark, so could it be the return of the cybermen?
I don't think so because we have already had one special with them in, but it is possible!!!
When I hear "It" my mind goes to a ship, i don't know why. But it seems more likely to me. Remember the masters "chip" Either red lady has it. The Rani or the masters wife, who went missing at the end of season 3. BUT I think that RTD might be leading us on a false trail :) Either way, love this show. In this season we need more timewar history, no question.
I think that IT is Galifray and The Master, bringing Davros back so soon would be unlikley. The worst idea I read about on Youtube is that its not The Master but the creature from Midnight which would suck balls if it did.
I've made a video myself about this thing, feel free to check it out. I don't think it's Davros returning, purely because I don't think they'd bring him back this early. I do think it's the Master though, but the video explains why. I'd love for the Rani to return though.
Possibly a different time lord................Davros,I dont think he survived.Wait!I think Caan is still alive!Or maybe they`re created Dalek Hybrids before all the metal suit daleks died.Possible...................................................
Rani could have been Romana and the Master's soul or whatever you call it could've been put into the stone ring and then the woman took it, probably Rani/Romana.
IT STATED IN THE NEWSPAPER THAT HE DOES!!! The TARDIS will be exploded to bits when the Doctor and the Master fight a battle to the death. A supposed regeneration cliffhanger!
I dont think that it is the master coming back because he got burnt at the end REMEMBER but if u also remember a woman picked up his ring so maybe a energy transfer went threw he ring it to the person who picked it up and i think the person who picked it up was the master wife! and davros is never coming back he was destroyed NO TELEPORT because in a deleted seen the doctor put in the tardis are there any teleports on the crusible it said on the screen no so sorry DAVROS IS DEASEED.
It will be the master. When we saw the simm master he just regenerated then he was gone for 18 months. The doctor got his hand cut off the master had the hand it is a bio match to the timelord we think the doctor could be any timelord. The master that died could have been master simm 2.0 and only been half human while the real master stayed hidden. What do you all think
the master does knock 4 times that his his rhytme that he does but i DON'T think davros is coming back becuase i think it is a little to soon to bring him back after all we dont know if davros is still alive but i think he is but i think is to soon for a return that quick because we seen the cybermen in series 2 but we had to wait a while till the christmas speical for them to come back
i think u r right about the master returning beacause in the end of series 3 the masters ring gets picked up by someone. and remember you never know what happend to his wife so it could have been her pickin up the ring : )
yeah rtd called that scene the hand of the rani in the commentary i think she might hve a way of bringing back the masters dead body since timelords can reserect each other and return his consciousness which is in the ring to his body
First, song is when the ood said the same thing in 4x03, its obv the master because it was in the news and 4 knocks(bom bom bom bom) masters drumbeat.
But Davros has Appeared in the end of Series 4 but Davros coming back to soon but i can be wrong with the Master coming back from the Dead meaning the death of Darkness and "He who Knocks 4 Times" I thought The Master
But in the Classic Series Davros & The Master never got Killed off
Just think about it for a second, the master has been gone for a while but by the two-part finale we'll have seen Davros four episodes ago. In other words: It's a bit too early for Davros.
i think you good be right, but whatever happens, Davies said the last epsiode is a two parter it will be in December 2009 and it will be EXPLOSIVE. and HUGE, he said the doctor will be put into danger, but you dont know just how much danger!
There's been pictures of Catherine Tate filming with David Tennant and Bernard Cribbins. Also, there's pictures of Donna in a wedding dress, in a church/graveyard. PLUS, there's been pictures of Thomas Knight and Elizabeth Sladen filming with David. FINALLY, there's pictures of a blonde John Simm filming with Bernard. Phew!
That's exactly what I said towards the end of the video. I know I have NO photographical or official proof that Davros could be returning but it's just my thoughts on things.
aaand the Master is dead and Captain Jack and Owen have died, and they experience being dead is blank and Dark, so the Master is Dead, hes coming out of the Dark, knocking four times, Carmen gets confusede with her he's and it's, ood appear in Mars, Collab of companions return, regeneration to Matt Smith, big ginormous unreleated tv reference to another program and a big explosion witch results to nothing at all
did you watch to the very end because is shoes the next time. do you want to no the next time? it is about a man the fires water out of his hands im not shore is it is the master or davros but take it from me it is not davros the episode is called the water from mars
at first when i saww the end of the ep. i thortt imediatley davros because the darness and his music in the bg. but a video rescore led me to belive the master is returning. but the odds of tht are pretty simm- get it ssimm slim? ahaaa oooo not funny. but davros has a better chance of returning
1. Davros may return as Davies did say he didn't want to be known as the man who killed off the greatest villain ever. That, and it didn't actually show him die in the fire.
2. How is it possible for The Master to return, as he died in Series 3 and The Doctor Cremated his body, Hm?
3. Also after the credits, it said "The Waters of Mars", could this signal a return for the Ice Warriors?
I just checked it on iplayer. She says it comes through the dark and then she pauses and then she says he will knock four times. I'm not trying to be rude or anything.
I already know John Simm's incarnation of The Master is returning as he has already been spotted on set with Donna, But I am not sure about Davros, only time will tell......
It's more likely it's the Master because Davros was Series 4 and according to the BBC these specials are Series 4 so...too soon....but then again the Daleks returned every series!!!
P.S. I hope it's John Simm's Master, he was my favourite Master :)
I think it is to do with the master, and, more specifically his ring. Because near the end of the the "Last of The Time Lords" a person that has red nail varnish on picks it up from the ashes of the masters cremated body. But my questions now are;
1. who is it who picks up the ring?,
2. How did this person get to the end of the universe in the year 100 trillion? and
the daleks not davros or master the daleks
iceburg008 1 year ago
well 'it' is the master and 'he' is wilf
geog112 1 year ago
@geog112 no, 'it' is Gallifrey, and 'he' is the master
leopardgeckocrazy 1 year ago
Love the accent!!
BigFatLoserDude 2 years ago
the master is going to retern in the end of time but davros is probaly dead
gccbrady 2 years ago
I agree slightly with pacetti07. I'm not so sure but The Doctor said that The Daleks killed all the time lords. But he never said that they destroyed Galifrey. I can't remember everything from series 1. If anyone has a opinion to what I said send me a message or comment on my channel.
KingPesda 2 years ago
the master is coming back, but Davros is defenutly Dead. but i belive Omega is returneing
DAN44100 2 years ago
Davros is not dead. He's 'died' so many times before: getting shot by a Dalek, exploding and foaming, blowing up. They wouldn't kill off a character like that. I say if a Dalek can have an emergency temporal shift then so can their creator...
InfernoPertwee 2 years ago
I wonder if they will say where Davos was Skaro on the episode "The Daleks" with the actor the play the doctor Susan Ian and Barbara. Some people in a Yahoo Doctor Who group hoped Matt Smith would not be a reboot.
britfrenir 2 years ago
it means gallifrey
SuperPRIMEproduction 2 years ago
"It is returning from the darkness" OBVIOUSLY refers to Russel T Davies' ability to write a decent second part to a two part story (which was exterminated after the first season)
"He will knock four times" OBVIOUSLY refers to Matt Smith, knocking on David Tennant's door and saying 'Look, I've given you a few hours to say your goodbyes to everyone but you've really got to get out of here now so I can move my stuff in.'
iammrmonkey 2 years ago
sarah jane smith will be returning along with luke smith captain jack harkness wilfred donna and celvia noble lucy saxon and of course matt smith
room8boys 2 years ago
according to imdb, john simm will return as the master. Catherine Tate will return as Donna Noble and John Barrowman will return as captain Jack. Also, Timothy Dalton will be starring as a unknown timelord. There is no notification about the actor who playes Davros to make a return. Simply a matter of looking it up...
doctortombaker 2 years ago
He is returning etc - COULD IT BE NINE? I mean in the trailer, a few people think there's Nine in it. I bloody hope so.
IWasHereMomentsAgo 2 years ago
YES! I saw that too, but no one else agreed with me :D
IWasHereMomentsAgo 2 years ago
"It will come from out of the darkness" I think/hope refers to Donna's memories.
IWasHereMomentsAgo 2 years ago
in all the interviews i've read the words nightmares and dreams keep coming up. so perhaps it won't actually be the characters them selfs returning but the characters camoing in the doctors dream of him looking back on his life right before he regenerates.
MrGem123456 2 years ago
if he is not in the xmas special i hope he returns to battle new doc matt smith but as steven moffat is taking over he says that he is'nt using old enemies he's making up new one's but the master is def returning
MattnificentStudios 2 years ago
Davros aint retruning The odd Signa o_0 the odd is Returning from the Darkness cuz on the episode with the oods with dona on the odd said your song it ending :D
Ben10302 2 years ago
David Tennant said in an interview that if we guessed what the knocking ment we would be wrong. I don't think it's the Master, or Davors. The it that is returning is actually the Time Lords home, GALLIFREY!
pacetti07 2 years ago
actually you can refer to the beast as the devil as he calls himself the evil of all religions or something.
Unskial 2 years ago
i think davros could return and the reason 4 no foto evidence is coz the wont film him out in the street
slayermedia 2 years ago
the master is def returning (but it will not be davros...) RASSILON
liverpoolfcfab5 2 years ago
And as we know, David, he really does knock four times.
Tennant
Yeah, absolutely, and if you think you've figured out what that means, you're wrong!
LiverpoolEddie 2 years ago
We're all forgetting about Jenny the doctor's daughter, where is she, she went off in a spaceship and never seen again :P
Spoiler do not read, it's about the master.
There's been rumero's/spottings of the acter who played the master on set of doctor who. There's been rumero's that the master will apear in the water's of mars, but only for a bit, then he gose out.
14sweep 2 years ago
Yer the odd said ur song is ending and so did that lady
LiverpoolEddie 2 years ago
darkness can also mean the devil from the black hole
MEGAMarshallXP 2 years ago
in the end of series 2 when the cybermen and daleks were sucked into the void, the void was described as the dead space. It was also described as dark, so could it be the return of the cybermen?
I don't think so because we have already had one special with them in, but it is possible!!!
MEGAMarshallXP 2 years ago
the darkness is used in torchwood alot to remember that...... its Abadon methinks ;D
owenharperisnotdead 2 years ago
When I hear "It" my mind goes to a ship, i don't know why. But it seems more likely to me. Remember the masters "chip" Either red lady has it. The Rani or the masters wife, who went missing at the end of season 3. BUT I think that RTD might be leading us on a false trail :) Either way, love this show. In this season we need more timewar history, no question.
Exarach 2 years ago
Wifred Mott is coming back wooooooo hoooooooooooo i dont know about u but the Rani (classic series) might return dunno THe Master boom boom boom boom
DoctorAdamandDAWGfan 2 years ago
I think that IT is Galifray and The Master, bringing Davros back so soon would be unlikley. The worst idea I read about on Youtube is that its not The Master but the creature from Midnight which would suck balls if it did.
Rugdawg09 2 years ago
yeah the creature from midnight was a load of jizz in my pants............ goes down smooth
dickogeorge 2 years ago
I've made a video myself about this thing, feel free to check it out. I don't think it's Davros returning, purely because I don't think they'd bring him back this early. I do think it's the Master though, but the video explains why. I'd love for the Rani to return though.
Animallover3300 2 years ago
In the next time trailer their is a woman who look like Jenny and she said "You will knock 4 times" to the Doctor.
LiverpoolEddie 2 years ago
No, she didn't. Carmen said it at the end of Planet of the Dead!
megashorts 2 years ago
Yes she did
LiverpoolEddie 2 years ago
Really? Where did you see that?
megashorts 2 years ago
You might of missed herd she said you will knock 4 times because the speech is on utube
LiverpoolEddie 2 years ago
IN THE TRAILER JENNY WAS IN IT
LiverpoolEddie 2 years ago
No, it wasn't. It was a woman who looked like here.
megashorts 2 years ago
@LiverpoolEddie It was Captain Adelaide Brooke!
Gametuber94 1 year ago
the darkness might be the void or something like that. and davros never died! maybe, because hes escaped 2 explosions before 2.
evangemini 2 years ago
Possibly a different time lord................Davros,I dont think he survived.Wait!I think Caan is still alive!Or maybe they`re created Dalek Hybrids before all the metal suit daleks died.Possible...................................................
Dinosaurdude35 2 years ago
Rani could have been Romana and the Master's soul or whatever you call it could've been put into the stone ring and then the woman took it, probably Rani/Romana.
nano3994 2 years ago
IT STATED IN THE NEWSPAPER THAT HE DOES!!! The TARDIS will be exploded to bits when the Doctor and the Master fight a battle to the death. A supposed regeneration cliffhanger!
nano3994 2 years ago
I dont think that it is the master coming back because he got burnt at the end REMEMBER but if u also remember a woman picked up his ring so maybe a energy transfer went threw he ring it to the person who picked it up and i think the person who picked it up was the master wife! and davros is never coming back he was destroyed NO TELEPORT because in a deleted seen the doctor put in the tardis are there any teleports on the crusible it said on the screen no so sorry DAVROS IS DEASEED.
Magiclman 2 years ago
It will be the master. When we saw the simm master he just regenerated then he was gone for 18 months. The doctor got his hand cut off the master had the hand it is a bio match to the timelord we think the doctor could be any timelord. The master that died could have been master simm 2.0 and only been half human while the real master stayed hidden. What do you all think
geno1263 2 years ago
the master does knock 4 times that his his rhytme that he does but i DON'T think davros is coming back becuase i think it is a little to soon to bring him back after all we dont know if davros is still alive but i think he is but i think is to soon for a return that quick because we seen the cybermen in series 2 but we had to wait a while till the christmas speical for them to come back
doctorwho434 2 years ago
he will nock 4 times is in the warters of mars when the water guy gos on the door I think :)
clonetrooper8 2 years ago
i dont think Davros
DoctorAdamandDAWGfan 2 years ago
i think u r right about the master returning beacause in the end of series 3 the masters ring gets picked up by someone. and remember you never know what happend to his wife so it could have been her pickin up the ring : )
mattmister26 2 years ago
Do you remember the person picking the ring up from the end of the episode with he master?
look up the rani. she was an evil timelord who somtimes worked with the master, she apparently always had red fingernails :)
TopherrMann 2 years ago
yeah rtd called that scene the hand of the rani in the commentary i think she might hve a way of bringing back the masters dead body since timelords can reserect each other and return his consciousness which is in the ring to his body
ahdeath2007 2 years ago
Your SONG is ending soon. Didn't the Ood say that?
Mbjeff 2 years ago
old friends are coming back
DONNA NOBLE, SARAH JANE, LUKE
it may sound stupid but look on youtube and you will find pics of donna, wilfred, sylvia, sarah jane and like [ not in same vid] with the doctor
Davros returning is stupid as it is too soon so he should come back in 2010 with 11th doctor, matt smith
DavrosReborn 2 years ago
well first:
she said: " your SONG is almost at it's end" so it could be river SONG coming
second:
I think it could be the master
thrid:
it could be the cybermen, or the daleks or even some sontarans or...................... a mystery beast!
krazymadkid121 2 years ago
First, song is when the ood said the same thing in 4x03, its obv the master because it was in the news and 4 knocks(bom bom bom bom) masters drumbeat.
AdamTariq002 2 years ago
I can confirm the Master is deffently coming back because I've seen pictures of John Simm in filming but I'm not sure about Davros.
scarywood 2 years ago
I know, I can't wait to see his return!
megashorts 2 years ago
I think it might be The Master or Davros
But Davros has Appeared in the end of Series 4 but Davros coming back to soon but i can be wrong with the Master coming back from the Dead meaning the death of Darkness and "He who Knocks 4 Times" I thought The Master
But in the Classic Series Davros & The Master never got Killed off
But they could bring Omega Back
JDG2764 2 years ago
Just think about it for a second, the master has been gone for a while but by the two-part finale we'll have seen Davros four episodes ago. In other words: It's a bit too early for Davros.
Dubzoomember 2 years ago
i think you good be right, but whatever happens, Davies said the last epsiode is a two parter it will be in December 2009 and it will be EXPLOSIVE. and HUGE, he said the doctor will be put into danger, but you dont know just how much danger!
tardis1996 2 years ago
i think the master is deffinatly returning
im not sure about davros but i think it is the daleks
russel t davies said that he would never be the one to kill davros on screen so hes still out there somewhere
if it is both of them maybe there will be flash backs of the time war welll watever it is i cant wait :D
dalmatirox 2 years ago
once i heard "he will knock 4 times",
i thught of the master too.
i dont think davros will return for david, though.
also, the doctor says to lady christina,
"you look like a time lord". romana?
DALEK86 2 years ago
i hope davros isnt returning but i definatley know that the master is!
drwhovian13 2 years ago
There's been pictures of Catherine Tate filming with David Tennant and Bernard Cribbins. Also, there's pictures of Donna in a wedding dress, in a church/graveyard. PLUS, there's been pictures of Thomas Knight and Elizabeth Sladen filming with David. FINALLY, there's pictures of a blonde John Simm filming with Bernard. Phew!
TheDoctorArvyn 2 years ago
I think it's just the master
cybermatt67 2 years ago
The master is returning because they comfirmed the actor playing him in david tennant final episode, so you should know that :P
GamerBoy263 2 years ago
I think that its just the master becaause we dont have any prof about davors.
DrWhoFanUK 2 years ago
That's exactly what I said towards the end of the video. I know I have NO photographical or official proof that Davros could be returning but it's just my thoughts on things.
megashorts 2 years ago
it will be that cause try it ding the sound of the drums the tapping and count the beats
doctorwhofan51 2 years ago
sarah jane and luke are back
BADWOLF200501 2 years ago
aaand the Master is dead and Captain Jack and Owen have died, and they experience being dead is blank and Dark, so the Master is Dead, hes coming out of the Dark, knocking four times, Carmen gets confusede with her he's and it's, ood appear in Mars, Collab of companions return, regeneration to Matt Smith, big ginormous unreleated tv reference to another program and a big explosion witch results to nothing at all
Toclafane76 2 years ago
the next episode is called the water from mars about a man that shouts water out of his hands it looks horrible
cyberking999 2 years ago
did you watch to the very end because is shoes the next time. do you want to no the next time? it is about a man the fires water out of his hands im not shore is it is the master or davros but take it from me it is not davros the episode is called the water from mars
cyberking999 2 years ago
I wasn't saying either of them were in the Waters of Mars. I meant possibly in the other specials later on in the year.
megashorts 2 years ago
im not sure, it could be either/both of them, or the midnight creature, as you said:)
Calmos333 2 years ago
Yeah, I agree.
megashorts 2 years ago
at first when i saww the end of the ep. i thortt imediatley davros because the darness and his music in the bg. but a video rescore led me to belive the master is returning. but the odds of tht are pretty simm- get it ssimm slim? ahaaa oooo not funny. but davros has a better chance of returning
RandomGeoffness 2 years ago
Three Things.
1. Davros may return as Davies did say he didn't want to be known as the man who killed off the greatest villain ever. That, and it didn't actually show him die in the fire.
2. How is it possible for The Master to return, as he died in Series 3 and The Doctor Cremated his body, Hm?
3. Also after the credits, it said "The Waters of Mars", could this signal a return for the Ice Warriors?
Cybusmaster92 2 years ago
Well, there is a picture of him on set of the winter special on the internet.
megashorts 2 years ago
yea she says he thankx for ur video megashorts
DrWhoFan000 2 years ago
this was great, cant wait to find out now
dalekidea 2 years ago
wait a sec il go watch the end bit again.
zackb456 2 years ago
what she really said was (i wrote it down and listend to it loads of times)
carmen: take care now
doctor:and you, chops and gravey , loveley
carmen: but be carefull tohugh, coz your song is ending, sir
doctor :what do you mean
carmen: IT is returnign through the dark
doctor *confused look *what
carmen: oh but doctor, oh but then... it will knock four times.
notice how she says IT not HE
zackb456 2 years ago
I just checked it on iplayer. She says it comes through the dark and then she pauses and then she says he will knock four times. I'm not trying to be rude or anything.
megashorts 2 years ago
yeah im sorrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyy, ive watched it just now, shes says it twice and he will knock, im sorry, i wasnt trying to be rude aswell.
zackb456 2 years ago
I already know John Simm's incarnation of The Master is returning as he has already been spotted on set with Donna, But I am not sure about Davros, only time will tell......
TardisTraveller16 2 years ago
Yeah, I'm sure Davros will return sometime in the future.
megashorts 2 years ago
It's more likely it's the Master because Davros was Series 4 and according to the BBC these specials are Series 4 so...too soon....but then again the Daleks returned every series!!!
P.S. I hope it's John Simm's Master, he was my favourite Master :)
07jonesj 2 years ago
WAIT! did anyone notice that davros in the stolen earth tapped his chair 4 times and made a similar sound to the drums, there may be a connection
dalekalex 2 years ago
Well spotted. I noticed that too!
megashorts 2 years ago
Hi megashorts,
I think it is to do with the master, and, more specifically his ring. Because near the end of the the "Last of The Time Lords" a person that has red nail varnish on picks it up from the ashes of the masters cremated body. But my questions now are;
1. who is it who picks up the ring?,
2. How did this person get to the end of the universe in the year 100 trillion? and
3. How did they get to the planet Malcassairo?
drwho992 2 years ago
1. I think Lucy Saxon picks up the ring. OR Donna.
2. Not Sure.
3. The Master took them there.
TheDoctorArvyn 2 years ago
good points
legobuilder013 2 years ago