it seems like people in the western world believe what socrates believed during his age. What does this tell you, about a couple hundred of years from now......
I am currently reading ON TRUTH. During the part where you advocate having a conversation with your parents re: their hypocrisy, knowledge, origin of power, etc is that meant to be another thought exercise? An intellectual, hypothetical conversation? I am hoping so because having had very tiny conversations of this ilk with mine, I do not think that the ACTUAL conversation would benefit many parent/adult child relationships.
It's tough, and it might not help all relationships. What it will do is help good relationships and end bad ones. If you do not have a good relationship with your FOO (family of origin), there's no reason for you to be involved with them.
You're the one who brought up INDIVIDUAL Sovereignty, and then immediately leaped from that to the floating abstractions "America" and "Britain", as if they were existent entities, worthy of being considered "Individuals". So, perhaps you could explain where you were going with that...
I don't know; I think it gives a great insight of the sensitization of the state, and to be quite frank it's utter bullshit of rationale. And furthermore I think it gives a great incite into the observational and utter maniacal beliefs of the state. How dare any state believe that birth and education hold's a contactable prerequisite, which we are forced to obey. Utter bullshit.
Who is this "America" fellow? I've never heard of him, or that "Britain" fellow. Why should their motivations be taken as any kind of moral obligation or imposition on any other individuals?
Brilliant analysis. I'd read Republic and Apology a decade ago, and totally swam right past both the justification through familial sovereignty, and the more subtle reference to the social contract. When you're lost in the play, it's hard to see the audience...
Damn, Socrates sounds like a child molester talking to a child, trying to use false guilt to get what he wants.
TreachMarkets 1 year ago
This is one of the best Stef! Thanks.
rockstarofredondo 1 year ago
Man, Socrates is such a statist! Is this where you got inspiration for your family=state theory?
kulza23 4 years ago
No, that came from my wife.. :)
stefbot 4 years ago
@kulza23
Socrates as the coolest of all statists though!
drew335533 1 year ago
it seems like people in the western world believe what socrates believed during his age. What does this tell you, about a couple hundred of years from now......
Naijagalca 4 years ago
I am currently reading ON TRUTH. During the part where you advocate having a conversation with your parents re: their hypocrisy, knowledge, origin of power, etc is that meant to be another thought exercise? An intellectual, hypothetical conversation? I am hoping so because having had very tiny conversations of this ilk with mine, I do not think that the ACTUAL conversation would benefit many parent/adult child relationships.
Elaina43 4 years ago
Whereas the acknowledgment of the truth of what you are talking about may help many.
Elaina43 4 years ago
Oh no, you should *actually* ask your family and friends about virtue. Absolutely, totally and for sure! :)
stefbot 4 years ago
It's tough, and it might not help all relationships. What it will do is help good relationships and end bad ones. If you do not have a good relationship with your FOO (family of origin), there's no reason for you to be involved with them.
isjoeythere 4 years ago
You're the one who brought up INDIVIDUAL Sovereignty, and then immediately leaped from that to the floating abstractions "America" and "Britain", as if they were existent entities, worthy of being considered "Individuals". So, perhaps you could explain where you were going with that...
gmgauthi 4 years ago 2
I don't know; I think it gives a great insight of the sensitization of the state, and to be quite frank it's utter bullshit of rationale. And furthermore I think it gives a great incite into the observational and utter maniacal beliefs of the state. How dare any state believe that birth and education hold's a contactable prerequisite, which we are forced to obey. Utter bullshit.
continuousconcern 4 years ago
Who is this "America" fellow? I've never heard of him, or that "Britain" fellow. Why should their motivations be taken as any kind of moral obligation or imposition on any other individuals?
gmgauthi 4 years ago
Great commentary, Stef.
LibertyIsNotGiven 4 years ago
Brilliant analysis. I'd read Republic and Apology a decade ago, and totally swam right past both the justification through familial sovereignty, and the more subtle reference to the social contract. When you're lost in the play, it's hard to see the audience...
gmgauthi 4 years ago
She was a total genius, but wrong about government and compulsion... I have lots of free podcasts on this on my web site, if you're interested... :)
stefbot 4 years ago
what a great intro :)
DoctorFist 4 years ago
i love you
Durgeofcerberus 4 years ago