@jillsauden There were shoe prints in the snow but they were never roped off and the prints were destroyed by the dozens of people who were there that day before anyone realized what had happened. No photos or impressions of the prints were taken.
@lalathe619 damn that's creepy and weird and disabling ur child with a bad oman before it even has chance - if ur american use a native american name, its th eleast u could do after ur ancestors basically wiped em all out
@sonydigital1 1st of all ,. i love jb and i don't have to be a religious person to love her .2nd i share the account with some one else .. get tha facts straight
i vow right here that if i ever have a little girl(since im only 18 now) that i will never put her through this kind of torture and being used like a fucken barbie doll...No 6 Year old Little Girl Deserves that!
Someone who is twisted enough to show-off that little girl like they did ,use her like a barbi doll ,can do other crazy stuff. And to be very religious like they are ,makes them more likelly to do crazy things .Maybe they thaugh that she was the devil to be so attracting to her pedophile father......
so the killer must have known this afamily's home...could have been someone who came over to fix something. and where she was found i dont think it was possible for them to hear her scream for help
The Patsy Ramsey theory is bullshit. If she tried to stage a kidnapping to cover herself, why would she need to sexually assault, abuse, and strangle her daughter? I think the killer was a friend of family member of the Ramseys, but not the parents themselves. It also could have a connection to JonBenet being a pageant princess, as we know their are sickos involved in that...
Tell me all about the sickos in pageants(period, don't go around and say glitz pageants are the only pageants out there) I sure would love to know who they are(parents don't count).
uhm little girls parading around in bikinis, dresses all dolled up looking very provocative at age 5. of course thats going to attract a few of the wrong crowd. sure it could be fun for the girls (the ones whose mothers don't force them) but i personally don't agree with it and the message it sends that's it's all about the glam and the money, mothers living their dream through their daughters. and i'm strictly talking beauty pageants for young girls which is what jonbenet did
A. Hardly anyone makes money from a pageant(only little girls think they actually made money) B. No pediophiles are at a pageant, it wouldn't be fun for them to be there, I mean too many people looking and watching, plus in alot of pageants personal photos and videos aren't allowed. Anyways pediophiles like CHILDREN period. With your type of thinking, playgrounds, dance recitals, gymnastics, schools should be banned.
The girls get a huge crown and bills of money. I'm not saying they get a million dollars but anything is a lot of money to a young child. So the message is that being pretty and perfect will get you money and loved by everyone. I'm not saying pedophiles are everywhere and that there's hundreds at beauty pageants. Pageants are safe places but that doesn't mean someone could be watching and become obsessed with a girl and go after her. It's a high possibility for the Jonbenet case
The amount their parent spends in a pageant does not amount to what they get(unless you do a higher up pageant which teens and adults are only allowed to do anyways). Someone could be watching a child at school, at the playground, in their neighborhood, getting off the school bus, people who act like pageants are a hevan for pediophiles obviously are forgetting pedios like CHILDREN period. They don't care where they come from.
You are right, but a pageant with little girls parading themselves in provocative outfits, makeup, walking around sexualized is a pedophile's fantasy. It is practically luring in the perverts. Sure, the pageant itself is a safe place, but why would you want to put your child into that and practically encourage sickos? There is a fine line between fun dress up and going too far. These girls are children, not women. It's disturbing that anyone would want to mix the two together.
My whole point is, you are implying there is a greater chance of being molested at a pageant than in everyday life(which I believe 2/5 women have been sexually assulted so....) the stats are against women anyways. Plus who knows how many kids are truly molested(some don't remember or choose not to tell) so your so called facts are wrong, just give it up. You can have the right to say children beauty pageants aren't right, but don't lie and say pedios go there to molest more.
I'm not saying that every girl who enters a beauty pageant is going to be raped.I'm stating my view on it and that it's disgusting when you think of the advantage it gives to pedophiles. And when I say this, I don't mean physical advantage of going and molesting children but the encouragement and easy access to their sick fantasies. Instead of lurking around playgrounds, now all they have to do is switch on toddlers and tiaras. Even better, the girls are all sexualized for them!
Again toddlers and tiaras is a bad example, they are exploiting beauty pageants not helping them. Anyways barney or any kid show could give them the same pleasure they like kids period.
I completely agree that pedophiles get pleasure out of watching things like that also. But at least shows like that are meant to be helpful to children and have no interest in making children sexual objects. It's just sad that pedophiles can't be controlled and will seek their satisfaction form anywhere. My point was that beauty pageants and shows relating to them actually ARE promoting the sexualization of children, it's what goes in in the pedophile's mind for all to see...
I can't agree with that type of thinking I'm sorry, but I can't go along with telling someone they can't do something(when it isn't really huting anybody) because then I feel we would have to start stopping other things, and eventually we would be a controlled world, which I would hate to see, considerig my people have only had freedom for about 150(maybe less) years, I'm not ready to be told what to do just yet.
In the end, it's the parent's and the child's decision whether or not they support and want to be involved in beauty pageants, although I find it bad some children do it so young they don't really have a choice. And not everyone there is shallow and about the money and perfection, but that's the environment it generates and I don't agree with it. Society tries to protect children and their innocence, they are the future. The line needs to be drawn with this type of thing...
The line also needed to be drawn on if people should sit in the back seat, or ifchildren should be allowed to go to the same schools. I'm sorry but if you take away rights you are going backwards in history not foward. People will feel the need to start telling people what to do again, and that isn't good.
Don't get me wrong, I have no interest in putting restrictions on people. I believe in the power of law but also of personal rights and free will. It's people's choice if they want to their kids to be involved in something like that. It's their choice how they raise their children and what values they teach them. The law will protect children from extremes, pageants are not extremes but if you examine them closely, they can have negative effects and I just find them wrong.
well imo nothing is more opprosessive than slavery or having certain rights being taken away or unfullfilled. I have family members who lived thru that, so maybe you can't understand.
This has nothing to do with rights being taken away from people. I have family who were murdered in the Holocaust, I can understand the pain, loss, and hardship of a group of people. Anyway, we have steered away from the point of this conversation and are on a completely different topic now haha I think we have both exhausted our points of view...
With your thinking people shouldn't have the right to do a beauty pageant, or to put their kids in one(again don't agree with beauty pageants however, I am more concerned about taking away free will). I am putting it in prespective, america does not need to go backwards when it comes to freedoms and rights.
@canukkkll I'm not saying that pasty killed her daughter.But if she did she would probably (but most unlikely) need to (sexually abuse) Jonbenet and stage the kidnapping to make it look like an intruder or someone else killed her daughter.Don't you think?
If you look at the crime scene photos and listen to the case they say that her skull was cracked open like an egg. And most of us know that head injuries bleed ALOT! So wouldnt they have found blood around the body? Or DNA in the blood? A piece of hair in the blood, a footprint? I mean really? If it was someone who intruded and needed to get out quick they wouldnt have time to clean up that kind of mess. But a parent could.
@urBabygirl123 AND in an interview a witness said that they had told John to search the house again to release tension and he went straight to the basement. Would you start there? I'd would have looked in closets or looked outside for something arrray but thats just me...
i would never sleep on the floor above my children. anyone coming in that house would have to get past me first before getting to my children. doesn't make them guilty, but i'm just saying they don't seem to think protectively in general...who would want their kids sleeping so far away?
i would never sleep on the floor above my children. anyone coming in that house would have to get past me first before getting to my children. doesn't make them guilty, but i'm just saying they don't seem to think protectively in general
the killers note seemed sloppy just like how people or teachers say " write like a serial killer" .... oh and the killer chose the basement where no one in the family will hear him rape and kill a stunned child
Ok everyone accusing the parents, how do you explain the stun gun marks? The police woulda found a gun if the parents had one. Even if they disposed it
i really do agree that the parents don't fit a profile of a murderer....but it would send shivers down my spine if their was ever evidence of the ramseys doing that
i have read somewhere that some killers had changed their handprints with another people the time they killed. i think that maybe the killer did this......
I once read a book written by a famous jewl thief working for the mob and he revealed that him and his acolytes would take the time to heat baby formula and feed a baby to avoid its cries waking its mother and even more astounding they would sit for up to 15 mins next to people sleeping in bed with their hands beneath the covers to warm up their hands before removing them from their fingers!!!!!! So experienced criminals may have very steady nerves and spend a lot of time indoors.
@jackicarnesrox ya why are students living there now? does jon ramsey still own the house? i see it is for sale on Zillow.com. the address was changed to 749 15th st.
@xgracex3 It's probably a dorm house or whatever for students since it's really really big. There's like, 5 bedrooms in there. The video will probably contradict me, but yeah.
i don't think the parents had anything to do with the murder of thier child, i do however believe they were very careless and they failed as parents for not taking this investigation seriously to search the WHOLE house. i believed a pedophile did this, and planned it as well.
THIS is ridiculos!!!! it was patsy or she had someone do it for her this is so stupid are they stupid enough to beleive it wasnt the parents really he went right to her there house there note pad she answers the door wearing make up its at 530 something in the morning why so early they have a neighboor come and help look for her when they have a ransom note wow they arent very smart all i can say is people are sick get a life dont ruin some one elses!!!! rip jon benet!!
@shauna13100 I have to agree with you..I always thought it was the mother. I found it strange that she continued having the little girl in all these beauty contests. the bedwetting bothers me. Patsy wanted perfection and this was one stressed out child. if a person other than a family member did this they would have to know the layout of that house to be able to take that child in the dark to the basement. this whole story makes no sense.
What really stands out for me is the fact that the ransom note asks for preciscely $118000, which is apparently the exact amount of the bonus John Ramsey received at work that year.
I suspected the Ramseys for a long time, but I now believe that there was an intruder/s and the intruder/s knew the Ramsey's (especially John) through work.
Continue....theory two..in our minds, based on the horridness of thi crime, one would have to assume that this individual is insane and mentally unstable..BUT we must NOT forget that is very possible that this person is highly intelligent...maybe that's why this case has bogged all of our minds and makes no sense.. Maybe he created all this stuff that points to someone living in the home to keep us from looking outside.. It's called reverse psychology....afterall, is a perfect murder, perfect t
Maybe the intruder entered the house while the ramseys were out visiting with the whites, created the ransom note and scoped out the layout of the house, waited for them to come home, used the stun gun to silence her so she could easily be taken from the home, something went wrong, jonbenet woke up seen her attacker, screamed, and he had no choice but to kill her because now she can identify her attacker. He left the body to do exactly what has happen...make the ramseys look responsible? Theor
My theory: they had a Christmas party someone from the family opened the window while downstairs and made it easy to re enter at another time or later that night. I also beliebe some how the father is involved it's just to weird he's the one who found the body almost as if he couldn't wait for it to be "discovered" because
this story just has too many theories,i just think that the ramseys know something their not telling us,i think they might know the killer,its just what the narrator is saying, that why would a kidnapper leave the body,leave a huge ransom note that was written on the own ramsey's note pad. it just doesnt make anysense.
@bonhomie888 Yowzah, boss. Cuz dey wuz in da house befo'! P.S. Amos and Andy called from heaven. They want you to take a remedial English class and get your nappy head out of your ass.
@bonhomie888 their house was used for doing guided tours around christmas because it was a heritage home. over 2000 people were given a tour of the house.
@RainbowOfDream ....yep ...but i wonder wether boulder police dom have an actual dna sample...they have bungled up everything...the dna and the ransom note are ditraction to the investigatio0n...just thionk budddy....what kidnappper refers to himself as a `small foreign faction`all terrorist groups talk to the masses.......thats fishy....the whole note is fishy...mr.ramsey is indeed the talented mr.ripley...
Let me tell all you fools who did it..............john andrew ramsey did......his room is next to jonbenets....his been sexually abusing her and jonbenet might have been a risk to john andrew because of maybe something she said that might have triggered his anger.......the alibi that melinda and andrew gave when they happened to appear on that fatefull day of dec 26 1996 at 2.00 pm , is nuttin but a bunch of crap...if aonly the dimwits at that boulder pd had the brains to double check their alib
I question this Theory: JonBenet wet the bed. Patsy got angry and hit her. Hard. JonBenet died. To make it look like a stranger did it, would she go to the extreme by using a stun gun on her after death? I don't think that family just happened to have one lying around somewhere. It doesn't make sense. What JonBenet went through is just so beyond horrific. I have a hard time imagining Patsy or doing all that to her own daughter.
Oh my gosh. Did I hear him right at 3:42?? Whyyyy would law students want to stay there for the semester..........SERIOUSLY. The house/bedroom where one of the country's most notorious murders took place...interesting rooming choice! 0_0
JonBonet was murdered by the Pedophile Satanists who run this world via the CIA. She was passed around as a sex toy until she was sacrificed to Satan, killed and placed back in the Ramsey home. There is also evidence the FBI had a child porn ring operating within the bureau, as a follow-up to the MKULTRA mind control exercised by the FBI and CIA. From Presidio Air Force Base, with LT COl AQuino, high priest in the Church of Sect, as the base's commander, to Boystown to GHW Bush, these Nazis...
maybe it was a burglary, but JonBonet awoke and was killed and left there and the killer fled before hastily finding a notepad and writing a ransom note to make it look like a ransom was his motive all along. or something..?
patsy written that note its so obvious she had to to convince the police there was an intruder the ransom note was the only way to do this and make it a long note so it stands out that way the police focus on it more
umm law students r staying there 4 the smeseter?? u is fucking buggin!!! ohh hell no! i wouldve been weting the bed knowing tht a kid was raped and murderd there...anywayz, if her parents did it, thts sad
they found a piece of hair on her blanket? wtf, who did it belong to?
i mean how the hell could that not be the killer? i mean if it's the dads DNA, he for sure is the killer. i mean how else could that be? he just took the blanket and rubbed it to his groin and then put it back? i mean come on. the that must be the killers
the ramseys did not do it but they knew the killer they had a party 3 days before her murder with over 100 people were all there fingur prints and dna he waited that nite he kne thhere plans and the lay out of the house
Sleeping in JonBenet's old room as a law student??? No thanks. Maybe it's just me but how could someone sleep in the house where she was killed...especially her room? I'd be laying awake the whole night just thinking about what occurred there.
it was easy to get in the house cuz well it was so huge i mean c`mon - a 15 roomed house.i dont want a big mansion but if i do get a mansion ima have an alarm system and a vicious dog
I would have been scared all the time - living in a big house such as this.... Creepy to just think about how someone could have been hiding somewhere, while they where thinking that they were secure... Poor little girl...
what i can't understand is that the person who did it must have known the house well he went to her room and then to the fartest room and most ugly room
@alesswejts i agree, i mean how could the killer know that the door was hard to open. and how did he know the rooms so well? thats wierd. I also wonder how the killer managed to get out of that window. i mean im thin, i easelly could get into the house that way, but i for sure could not be able to get out that way? and i mean the killer must be bigger than me. and how was he able to get out that way and not make any sounds. No.. someone in that house must be the killer.
@ejhswe yes i didnt say that really someone in the house it is but its more likely and the intruder must have known the house well i think altough the house is so big and sometimes when you sleep you cant even hear people in your own room
@ejhswe okaay one the door had a lock on it.on the top he must of locked it.2.the ramsey's were gone all day visitng with friends exchanging gifts he had plenty of time to look around yes the house is big but not a mansion.3.there was a suitcase right below the window and glass was found on tht suit case most likely from a shoe so he most likely used tht.
@xjonbenet96x and 4.he most likely wasn't a huge man most likely average size and kinda short.remember Jonbenet was only 6yrs old the guy didn't have to be very big to do wht he did.
I would never want to live in a house like that... it's nice and all but there's so many places for people to hide. I'm really jumpy anyway and I live in a small house...
@pomegranateish They're probably just renting to have a place to stay while in school. Similarly I'm going to be renting a room in a house during my internship. But I would not stay in that house either, since I consider the intruder theory quite plausible and don't want to be in a house that could have been easily broken into!
their bedroom arrangements is a lil weird they have their kids below them, i would have my kid upstairs and id be downstairs, in case an intruder come, they would have to come thru me
Whoever did this had to have stalked out that house and watched the family for awhile. In John Douglas' book, "The Cases That Haunt Us" he thinks it could have been a juvenile offender of someone who had worked in the house.. I heard that they never even interviewed the housekeeper! Just sloppy police work all around!
my parents , when I was young always makes me walk on the side of the bushes and they hold my hand them being on the road side , like that if there's a accident, I will have a chance to survive, it's pretty protective.
being logical 5 mns please....if you buy a house, do you put your children close to you, and far from the door in case of intruders (I mean if someone get ine the house, he strikes the adults first, like that you have a chance to protect the kids and give them a chance to hide etc).where you can hear them at night...or really close to the principal door?....i don't get that....
The man who killed her must have studied the house for a longtime to know how to get in and stuff. He's probably a pedophile who saw her around town and in pageants and decided to stalk her so that he could do things to her. I feel sooo sorry for the Ramsey family and JonBenet. Why would he do that to her? why?
What if he had walked in to plan the crime and JonBenet happened to see him. So he grabbed her then and worked quickly. He made a note for the money and brought her to the basement. Locked the door. She then put up a fight started screaming so he choked her to shut her up. Then accidently killed her. So when she died he ran and got out the basement window
Or a clever intruder who didnt want to risk getting caught going into a house with a ransom note..
Well evidently he didnt mind running the risk of getting caught while sitting in the fucking house writing a ransom note that was longer than War and Peace.
@celticlofts Good point. The thing is though, he might have written it while in the basement or something, which would definitely lessen the chances that he could be caught while writing it.
@celticlofts Good point. The thing is though, he may have written it while in the basement or something, since he would be less likely to be caught there. Also, that house is freaking huge, and if the parents bedroom was on the top floor like it says, someone who knew that maybe figured he could get away with snooping around a bit downstairs. The part I don't get, is what they have said about JonBenet having signs of repeated sexual assault on her body that was done over time....
@celticlofts This is the problem. If the note was written before then they needed to steal the notepad before the crime, two visits to the house. One visit means the intruder spent at least 10 minutes writing a letter, why would you do that? Bill McReynolds is the main suspect...Michael Helgoth is the other.
People live in that house?! I could never live there! Id get a really bad vibe. That's just me thou.
GoneButStillHere1 6 days ago
no history of abuse? that's an odd opinion to me. i see multiple examples of video evidence of abuse in the suggestion box.
me86680 3 weeks ago
Poor baby I can't believe this shit y would someone do that I am goin to name my daughter Jon Benet Ramsey
ILOVEYMCMBALOT 3 weeks ago
@jillsauden There were shoe prints in the snow but they were never roped off and the prints were destroyed by the dozens of people who were there that day before anyone realized what had happened. No photos or impressions of the prints were taken.
arby2774 4 months ago
why was their no footprints in the snow??
jillsaudan 4 months ago
i will name my child (if i ever have a little girl) i will name her after jb
lalathe619 5 months ago
@lalathe619 and let me guess, if it turns out to be a boy, you'll name him justin bieber? ;>
Luulchy 2 months ago
@Luulchy hell no fuck biever ... i will name him joey from my fav band slipknot
lalathe619 2 months ago
@lalathe619 damn that's creepy and weird and disabling ur child with a bad oman before it even has chance - if ur american use a native american name, its th eleast u could do after ur ancestors basically wiped em all out
sonydigital1 2 weeks ago
@lalathe619 oh from seeing ur satanic bio on ur profile, hope u choke on dick bitch
sonydigital1 2 weeks ago
@sonydigital1 1st of all ,. i love jb and i don't have to be a religious person to love her .2nd i share the account with some one else .. get tha facts straight
lalathe619 2 weeks ago
i vow right here that if i ever have a little girl(since im only 18 now) that i will never put her through this kind of torture and being used like a fucken barbie doll...No 6 Year old Little Girl Deserves that!
RosesareAllie 5 months ago
I wouldn't stay in that house...
MiCHAELJLYSSAPAC 5 months ago 3
I think the house is creepy, what do u say?
beautifulstar33 6 months ago 12
Someone who is twisted enough to show-off that little girl like they did ,use her like a barbi doll ,can do other crazy stuff. And to be very religious like they are ,makes them more likelly to do crazy things .Maybe they thaugh that she was the devil to be so attracting to her pedophile father......
grossebobette 6 months ago
so the killer must have known this afamily's home...could have been someone who came over to fix something. and where she was found i dont think it was possible for them to hear her scream for help
MsRealbadass 6 months ago
so the killer must have known this afamily's home...could have been someone who came over to fix something.
MsRealbadass 6 months ago
Steve Thomas did not resign because he thought the Ramseys were guilty. He resigned because the DA was obstructing justuce.
anastasia2657 6 months ago
This is crazy. This young girl had evidence of chronic sexual abuse. Did the intruder make repeat visits?
anastasia2657 7 months ago
The Patsy Ramsey theory is bullshit. If she tried to stage a kidnapping to cover herself, why would she need to sexually assault, abuse, and strangle her daughter? I think the killer was a friend of family member of the Ramseys, but not the parents themselves. It also could have a connection to JonBenet being a pageant princess, as we know their are sickos involved in that...
canukkkll 7 months ago
@canukkkll
Tell me all about the sickos in pageants(period, don't go around and say glitz pageants are the only pageants out there) I sure would love to know who they are(parents don't count).
beautyquenn101 6 months ago
@beautyquenn101
uhm little girls parading around in bikinis, dresses all dolled up looking very provocative at age 5. of course thats going to attract a few of the wrong crowd. sure it could be fun for the girls (the ones whose mothers don't force them) but i personally don't agree with it and the message it sends that's it's all about the glam and the money, mothers living their dream through their daughters. and i'm strictly talking beauty pageants for young girls which is what jonbenet did
canukkkll 6 months ago 15
@canukkkll
A. Hardly anyone makes money from a pageant(only little girls think they actually made money) B. No pediophiles are at a pageant, it wouldn't be fun for them to be there, I mean too many people looking and watching, plus in alot of pageants personal photos and videos aren't allowed. Anyways pediophiles like CHILDREN period. With your type of thinking, playgrounds, dance recitals, gymnastics, schools should be banned.
beautyquenn101 6 months ago
@beautyquenn101
The girls get a huge crown and bills of money. I'm not saying they get a million dollars but anything is a lot of money to a young child. So the message is that being pretty and perfect will get you money and loved by everyone. I'm not saying pedophiles are everywhere and that there's hundreds at beauty pageants. Pageants are safe places but that doesn't mean someone could be watching and become obsessed with a girl and go after her. It's a high possibility for the Jonbenet case
canukkkll 6 months ago
@canukkkll
The amount their parent spends in a pageant does not amount to what they get(unless you do a higher up pageant which teens and adults are only allowed to do anyways). Someone could be watching a child at school, at the playground, in their neighborhood, getting off the school bus, people who act like pageants are a hevan for pediophiles obviously are forgetting pedios like CHILDREN period. They don't care where they come from.
beautyquenn101 6 months ago
@beautyquenn101
You are right, but a pageant with little girls parading themselves in provocative outfits, makeup, walking around sexualized is a pedophile's fantasy. It is practically luring in the perverts. Sure, the pageant itself is a safe place, but why would you want to put your child into that and practically encourage sickos? There is a fine line between fun dress up and going too far. These girls are children, not women. It's disturbing that anyone would want to mix the two together.
canukkkll 6 months ago
@canukkkll
My whole point is, you are implying there is a greater chance of being molested at a pageant than in everyday life(which I believe 2/5 women have been sexually assulted so....) the stats are against women anyways. Plus who knows how many kids are truly molested(some don't remember or choose not to tell) so your so called facts are wrong, just give it up. You can have the right to say children beauty pageants aren't right, but don't lie and say pedios go there to molest more.
beautyquenn101 6 months ago
@beautyquenn101
I'm not saying that every girl who enters a beauty pageant is going to be raped.I'm stating my view on it and that it's disgusting when you think of the advantage it gives to pedophiles. And when I say this, I don't mean physical advantage of going and molesting children but the encouragement and easy access to their sick fantasies. Instead of lurking around playgrounds, now all they have to do is switch on toddlers and tiaras. Even better, the girls are all sexualized for them!
canukkkll 6 months ago
@canukkkll
Again toddlers and tiaras is a bad example, they are exploiting beauty pageants not helping them. Anyways barney or any kid show could give them the same pleasure they like kids period.
beautyquenn101 6 months ago
@beautyquenn101
I completely agree that pedophiles get pleasure out of watching things like that also. But at least shows like that are meant to be helpful to children and have no interest in making children sexual objects. It's just sad that pedophiles can't be controlled and will seek their satisfaction form anywhere. My point was that beauty pageants and shows relating to them actually ARE promoting the sexualization of children, it's what goes in in the pedophile's mind for all to see...
canukkkll 6 months ago
@canukkkll
I can't agree with that type of thinking I'm sorry, but I can't go along with telling someone they can't do something(when it isn't really huting anybody) because then I feel we would have to start stopping other things, and eventually we would be a controlled world, which I would hate to see, considerig my people have only had freedom for about 150(maybe less) years, I'm not ready to be told what to do just yet.
beautyquenn101 6 months ago
@beautyquenn101
In the end, it's the parent's and the child's decision whether or not they support and want to be involved in beauty pageants, although I find it bad some children do it so young they don't really have a choice. And not everyone there is shallow and about the money and perfection, but that's the environment it generates and I don't agree with it. Society tries to protect children and their innocence, they are the future. The line needs to be drawn with this type of thing...
canukkkll 6 months ago
@canukkkll
The line also needed to be drawn on if people should sit in the back seat, or ifchildren should be allowed to go to the same schools. I'm sorry but if you take away rights you are going backwards in history not foward. People will feel the need to start telling people what to do again, and that isn't good.
beautyquenn101 6 months ago
@beautyquenn101
Don't get me wrong, I have no interest in putting restrictions on people. I believe in the power of law but also of personal rights and free will. It's people's choice if they want to their kids to be involved in something like that. It's their choice how they raise their children and what values they teach them. The law will protect children from extremes, pageants are not extremes but if you examine them closely, they can have negative effects and I just find them wrong.
canukkkll 6 months ago
@canukkkll
well imo nothing is more opprosessive than slavery or having certain rights being taken away or unfullfilled. I have family members who lived thru that, so maybe you can't understand.
beautyquenn101 6 months ago
@beautyquenn101
This has nothing to do with rights being taken away from people. I have family who were murdered in the Holocaust, I can understand the pain, loss, and hardship of a group of people. Anyway, we have steered away from the point of this conversation and are on a completely different topic now haha I think we have both exhausted our points of view...
canukkkll 6 months ago
@canukkkll
With your thinking people shouldn't have the right to do a beauty pageant, or to put their kids in one(again don't agree with beauty pageants however, I am more concerned about taking away free will). I am putting it in prespective, america does not need to go backwards when it comes to freedoms and rights.
beautyquenn101 6 months ago
I mean I don't agree with glitz beauty pageants
beautyquenn101 6 months ago
@canukkkll I'm not saying that pasty killed her daughter.But if she did she would probably (but most unlikely) need to (sexually abuse) Jonbenet and stage the kidnapping to make it look like an intruder or someone else killed her daughter.Don't you think?
8luvbug 2 months ago
The police fucked up big time, they made mistakes from the get up!!
thelaurels13 7 months ago
the intruder would have gotten lost in this maze unless it was a well know family friend or her parents
jusheather08 7 months ago
@jusheather08 It's not a fucking compound, dickhead. It was a house.
kreepeemann 7 months ago
I would, If I could, go back in time, and save her. and If I saw the killer entering her room, I would beat the shit out of him.
Gothictalks 7 months ago
an intruder could've easily grabbed jonbenet without anybody hearing it
peteyguitarguy 7 months ago
You know what I dont understand....
If you look at the crime scene photos and listen to the case they say that her skull was cracked open like an egg. And most of us know that head injuries bleed ALOT! So wouldnt they have found blood around the body? Or DNA in the blood? A piece of hair in the blood, a footprint? I mean really? If it was someone who intruded and needed to get out quick they wouldnt have time to clean up that kind of mess. But a parent could.
urBabygirl123 7 months ago
@urBabygirl123 AND in an interview a witness said that they had told John to search the house again to release tension and he went straight to the basement. Would you start there? I'd would have looked in closets or looked outside for something arrray but thats just me...
urBabygirl123 7 months ago
What the he'll was inside that samsonite medal suitcase if I was the FBI or detective and that was found under the window I would look inside!
chillinwiffmypeeps23 7 months ago
i would never sleep on the floor above my children. anyone coming in that house would have to get past me first before getting to my children. doesn't make them guilty, but i'm just saying they don't seem to think protectively in general...who would want their kids sleeping so far away?
kittycatknows 8 months ago 4
@kittycatknows Exactly my thoughts.
nibblesxsips 1 month ago
i would never sleep on the floor above my children. anyone coming in that house would have to get past me first before getting to my children. doesn't make them guilty, but i'm just saying they don't seem to think protectively in general
kittycatknows 8 months ago
yep her parents did. I agree
1justinbieberfansA 9 months ago
It was the parents
Ericson1305 9 months ago
What i said is not based on facts since i am just a person who is recieving info from here and the media. and i cannot accuse anyone
Antiairstrike 9 months ago
two weapons used were a stun gun...and a tool made of rope and wood...where can you get those simple tools
Antiairstrike 9 months ago
the killers note seemed sloppy just like how people or teachers say " write like a serial killer" .... oh and the killer chose the basement where no one in the family will hear him rape and kill a stunned child
Antiairstrike 9 months ago
no one cares that the killer knew where everything (strucure wise) was & that he made almost no noise "searching" for the "specific girl"
Antiairstrike 9 months ago
Creepy House Creepy House.
freefalln329 9 months ago
Ok everyone accusing the parents, how do you explain the stun gun marks? The police woulda found a gun if the parents had one. Even if they disposed it
swantonnoodles 9 months ago
when was this video made and aired?
SaoriTohru 10 months ago
i really do agree that the parents don't fit a profile of a murderer....but it would send shivers down my spine if their was ever evidence of the ramseys doing that
trueshinobi01 10 months ago
I bet the little brother killed her and the mother tried to make it look like a horrible murder to clear her son.
MistyOjaiGirl 10 months ago
This house is crepy, isn't it? Even if I were a billioaire, I wouldn't live there.
3333sweetie 10 months ago 2
You would have to have real good knowledge of the house to actually pull this off. Humm... Parents did it.
davinitall 10 months ago
i have read somewhere that some killers had changed their handprints with another people the time they killed. i think that maybe the killer did this......
glammetalathena 10 months ago
@glammetalathena what does that mean?
3333sweetie 10 months ago
The parents may not have killed her but there is no possible way that they didn't know that something was going on.
SkinnyChef09 10 months ago
I once read a book written by a famous jewl thief working for the mob and he revealed that him and his acolytes would take the time to heat baby formula and feed a baby to avoid its cries waking its mother and even more astounding they would sit for up to 15 mins next to people sleeping in bed with their hands beneath the covers to warm up their hands before removing them from their fingers!!!!!! So experienced criminals may have very steady nerves and spend a lot of time indoors.
turockandar 10 months ago
um, why would a student live in her bedroom?
sydneyw19 10 months ago 32
@sydneyw19 if i was a student and needed somewhere to live, i'd rather be a hobo than live in jonbenet ramsey's bedroom.
skyemarine 6 months ago 4
@sydneyw19 its not like its haunted!
ChezFeroce 5 months ago
why does JonBennet have a door in her bedroom? .. was I the only one who saw that?
missWERWHOWER 10 months ago
@missWERWHOWER It leads to her bathroom :)
MJJslilgrl 8 months ago
creepy/ironic that law students are living there
jackicarnesrox 11 months ago 3
@jackicarnesrox ya why are students living there now? does jon ramsey still own the house? i see it is for sale on Zillow.com. the address was changed to 749 15th st.
cjh661 10 months ago
@xgracex3 AGREED.
lemonsnlimes333 11 months ago
@xgracex3 It's probably a dorm house or whatever for students since it's really really big. There's like, 5 bedrooms in there. The video will probably contradict me, but yeah.
NeonGreenFairyJedi 11 months ago
i don't think the parents had anything to do with the murder of thier child, i do however believe they were very careless and they failed as parents for not taking this investigation seriously to search the WHOLE house. i believed a pedophile did this, and planned it as well.
BatmanSucksMyBanana 11 months ago
Interesting...
LostManyHearts 11 months ago
Henry Lee is a fucking godhead genius.
bunnyhead71 11 months ago
i miss u jonbenet ramsey
princess forever
heather9835 11 months ago
I could never live in that bedroom after Jonbenet had been killed there. I'd be too freaked out. Poor Jonbenet! RIP <3
NiiBean 1 year ago
That house is HUGE.. I would be kinda freaked out living there
isayyes15 1 year ago 2
THIS is ridiculos!!!! it was patsy or she had someone do it for her this is so stupid are they stupid enough to beleive it wasnt the parents really he went right to her there house there note pad she answers the door wearing make up its at 530 something in the morning why so early they have a neighboor come and help look for her when they have a ransom note wow they arent very smart all i can say is people are sick get a life dont ruin some one elses!!!! rip jon benet!!
shauna13100 1 year ago 3
@shauna13100 I have to agree with you..I always thought it was the mother. I found it strange that she continued having the little girl in all these beauty contests. the bedwetting bothers me. Patsy wanted perfection and this was one stressed out child. if a person other than a family member did this they would have to know the layout of that house to be able to take that child in the dark to the basement. this whole story makes no sense.
cassapollard 11 months ago
This is a useless comment but i just thought i might point out for my person fulfillment that the guy says "body" really weird....
xLilycakesx 1 year ago
What really stands out for me is the fact that the ransom note asks for preciscely $118000, which is apparently the exact amount of the bonus John Ramsey received at work that year.
I suspected the Ramseys for a long time, but I now believe that there was an intruder/s and the intruder/s knew the Ramsey's (especially John) through work.
richard20bris 1 year ago
It is now a student dorm???
Weird that only the basement is occupied.
666mathew 1 year ago
Continued....afterall, is a perfect murder, perfect town... Could he have been a lawstudent dorming in her room?
Wbrown63636 1 year ago
Continue....theory two..in our minds, based on the horridness of thi crime, one would have to assume that this individual is insane and mentally unstable..BUT we must NOT forget that is very possible that this person is highly intelligent...maybe that's why this case has bogged all of our minds and makes no sense.. Maybe he created all this stuff that points to someone living in the home to keep us from looking outside.. It's called reverse psychology....afterall, is a perfect murder, perfect t
Wbrown63636 1 year ago
Maybe the intruder entered the house while the ramseys were out visiting with the whites, created the ransom note and scoped out the layout of the house, waited for them to come home, used the stun gun to silence her so she could easily be taken from the home, something went wrong, jonbenet woke up seen her attacker, screamed, and he had no choice but to kill her because now she can identify her attacker. He left the body to do exactly what has happen...make the ramseys look responsible? Theor
Wbrown63636 1 year ago
My theory: they had a Christmas party someone from the family opened the window while downstairs and made it easy to re enter at another time or later that night. I also beliebe some how the father is involved it's just to weird he's the one who found the body almost as if he couldn't wait for it to be "discovered" because
A) the suspense was killing him
B) he wanted a reason for his DNA to be there
bbygal333 1 year ago
RANSOM NOTE WAS PART OF THE STAGING.
leedumett444 1 year ago
this story just has too many theories,i just think that the ramseys know something their not telling us,i think they might know the killer,its just what the narrator is saying, that why would a kidnapper leave the body,leave a huge ransom note that was written on the own ramsey's note pad. it just doesnt make anysense.
loveablemeggy 1 year ago 3
that intruder sure do know his way around the house..
bonhomie888 1 year ago 28
@bonhomie888 That's what i'm saying a comlete stranger/ intruder could not have killed JonBenet.I think the killer knew JonBenet.
8luvbug 7 months ago
@bonhomie888 Yowzah, boss. Cuz dey wuz in da house befo'! P.S. Amos and Andy called from heaven. They want you to take a remedial English class and get your nappy head out of your ass.
kreepeemann 7 months ago
@kreepeemann i'm not talking to you, you psychotic beggar for attention
bonhomie888 7 months ago
@bonhomie888 their house was used for doing guided tours around christmas because it was a heritage home. over 2000 people were given a tour of the house.
mebee415 6 months ago
My theory: the ramseys had many secrets. they weren't perfect. they killed her by mistake. A third person helped them cover it up.
livelife8701 1 year ago 3
@livelife8701
stupid theory.
NickWick86 1 year ago
@RainbowOfDream ....yep ...but i wonder wether boulder police dom have an actual dna sample...they have bungled up everything...the dna and the ransom note are ditraction to the investigatio0n...just thionk budddy....what kidnappper refers to himself as a `small foreign faction`all terrorist groups talk to the masses.......thats fishy....the whole note is fishy...mr.ramsey is indeed the talented mr.ripley...
farwin97 1 year ago
Let me tell all you fools who did it..............john andrew ramsey did......his room is next to jonbenets....his been sexually abusing her and jonbenet might have been a risk to john andrew because of maybe something she said that might have triggered his anger.......the alibi that melinda and andrew gave when they happened to appear on that fatefull day of dec 26 1996 at 2.00 pm , is nuttin but a bunch of crap...if aonly the dimwits at that boulder pd had the brains to double check their alib
farwin97 1 year ago
BURKE OR JOHN OR PATSY. DEFO KNOW INTRUDER.
leedumett444 1 year ago
the parents know something. there is no way.
ShaggyKitty 1 year ago 18
@ShaggyKitty the killer was found
KatieMae131 8 months ago
@KatieMae131 Then why is there nothing about it online?
Data?
Sources?
Specifics of any kind?
Out with it; unless you're full of BS...
Lsdfunk 8 months ago
I question this Theory: JonBenet wet the bed. Patsy got angry and hit her. Hard. JonBenet died. To make it look like a stranger did it, would she go to the extreme by using a stun gun on her after death? I don't think that family just happened to have one lying around somewhere. It doesn't make sense. What JonBenet went through is just so beyond horrific. I have a hard time imagining Patsy or doing all that to her own daughter.
aliciaanne 1 year ago
Oh my gosh. Did I hear him right at 3:42?? Whyyyy would law students want to stay there for the semester..........SERIOUSLY. The house/bedroom where one of the country's most notorious murders took place...interesting rooming choice! 0_0
irhjma30000 1 year ago 5
JonBonet was murdered by the Pedophile Satanists who run this world via the CIA. She was passed around as a sex toy until she was sacrificed to Satan, killed and placed back in the Ramsey home. There is also evidence the FBI had a child porn ring operating within the bureau, as a follow-up to the MKULTRA mind control exercised by the FBI and CIA. From Presidio Air Force Base, with LT COl AQuino, high priest in the Church of Sect, as the base's commander, to Boystown to GHW Bush, these Nazis...
Ciaresayton 1 year ago
@Ciaresayton that's the most logical theory I have heard so far
gothamjediknight 1 year ago
maybe it was a burglary, but JonBonet awoke and was killed and left there and the killer fled before hastily finding a notepad and writing a ransom note to make it look like a ransom was his motive all along. or something..?
xkaishax 1 year ago
I think Santa Claus had the perfect opportunity
ITS TIME TO SPEAK UP dot com
ArtByLindaLee 1 year ago
DID THEY CHECKED OUT THE SANTA CLAUS
This murder angers me greatly
ITS TIME TO SPEAK UP dot com
ArtByLindaLee 1 year ago
that is one hideously decorated house.
thedarthflagger 1 year ago
patsy written that note its so obvious she had to to convince the police there was an intruder the ransom note was the only way to do this and make it a long note so it stands out that way the police focus on it more
leedumett444 1 year ago
i think the parents did it :( ...........
basketball727 1 year ago
umm law students r staying there 4 the smeseter?? u is fucking buggin!!! ohh hell no! i wouldve been weting the bed knowing tht a kid was raped and murderd there...anywayz, if her parents did it, thts sad
baniboo14 1 year ago
@baniboo14 they didn't they were cleared i believe last yr.
xjonbenet96x 1 year ago
they found a piece of hair on her blanket? wtf, who did it belong to?
i mean how the hell could that not be the killer? i mean if it's the dads DNA, he for sure is the killer. i mean how else could that be? he just took the blanket and rubbed it to his groin and then put it back? i mean come on. the that must be the killers
ejhswe 1 year ago
the ramseys did not do it but they knew the killer they had a party 3 days before her murder with over 100 people were all there fingur prints and dna he waited that nite he kne thhere plans and the lay out of the house
karen9119 1 year ago
Sleeping in JonBenet's old room as a law student??? No thanks. Maybe it's just me but how could someone sleep in the house where she was killed...especially her room? I'd be laying awake the whole night just thinking about what occurred there.
marathon1974 1 year ago
it was easy to get in the house cuz well it was so huge i mean c`mon - a 15 roomed house.i dont want a big mansion but if i do get a mansion ima have an alarm system and a vicious dog
TheAlexisfaith 1 year ago
my penis hurts
kagoshimadavid 1 year ago 2
Sad :(
puppylove825 1 year ago
I would have been scared all the time - living in a big house such as this.... Creepy to just think about how someone could have been hiding somewhere, while they where thinking that they were secure... Poor little girl...
Pepitepi 1 year ago
dr. henry lee is the biggest fraud in forensics. Always for hire to lie in defense of some killer!
Berialavrenti 1 year ago
what i can't understand is that the person who did it must have known the house well he went to her room and then to the fartest room and most ugly room
alesswejts 1 year ago
@alesswejts i agree, i mean how could the killer know that the door was hard to open. and how did he know the rooms so well? thats wierd. I also wonder how the killer managed to get out of that window. i mean im thin, i easelly could get into the house that way, but i for sure could not be able to get out that way? and i mean the killer must be bigger than me. and how was he able to get out that way and not make any sounds. No.. someone in that house must be the killer.
ejhswe 1 year ago
@ejhswe yes i didnt say that really someone in the house it is but its more likely and the intruder must have known the house well i think altough the house is so big and sometimes when you sleep you cant even hear people in your own room
alesswejts 1 year ago
@ejhswe okaay one the door had a lock on it.on the top he must of locked it.2.the ramsey's were gone all day visitng with friends exchanging gifts he had plenty of time to look around yes the house is big but not a mansion.3.there was a suitcase right below the window and glass was found on tht suit case most likely from a shoe so he most likely used tht.
xjonbenet96x 1 year ago
@xjonbenet96x and 4.he most likely wasn't a huge man most likely average size and kinda short.remember Jonbenet was only 6yrs old the guy didn't have to be very big to do wht he did.
xjonbenet96x 1 year ago
Nothing I've seen or read indicates the parents committed the murder.
DartmouthAlum96 1 year ago
Beautiful house, but I could never live in it. There's too many places for people to hide.
missAlessa2009 1 year ago
I would never want to live in a house like that... it's nice and all but there's so many places for people to hide. I'm really jumpy anyway and I live in a small house...
Laradiane 1 year ago
why was their no foot prints in the snow, it would of been dark when the intruder left, he wouldnt of stood looking where to tread with a torch????
jillsaudan 1 year ago
I wish they wouldn't play creepy music
questions117 1 year ago
Why wouldn't the parents do an interview if they're innocent?
questions117 1 year ago
Holy crap....law students were living there? I'd NEVER live in that house! Way too creepy/disconcerting. :-S
nozomiwhitewolf 1 year ago
Why are law students staying there? Are they just renters or is there some significance to the fact that they're law students?
pomegranateish 1 year ago
@pomegranateish They're probably just renting to have a place to stay while in school. Similarly I'm going to be renting a room in a house during my internship. But I would not stay in that house either, since I consider the intruder theory quite plausible and don't want to be in a house that could have been easily broken into!
AmusedChild 1 year ago
@pomegranateish
university of colorado
Berialavrenti 1 year ago
their bedroom arrangements is a lil weird they have their kids below them, i would have my kid upstairs and id be downstairs, in case an intruder come, they would have to come thru me
PrEtTy10ALLY 2 years ago 8
Whoever did this had to have stalked out that house and watched the family for awhile. In John Douglas' book, "The Cases That Haunt Us" he thinks it could have been a juvenile offender of someone who had worked in the house.. I heard that they never even interviewed the housekeeper! Just sloppy police work all around!
DareDarlington 2 years ago
id be scared to live there, even though its been like 14 years but still...
taryndancer29 2 years ago 2
my parents , when I was young always makes me walk on the side of the bushes and they hold my hand them being on the road side , like that if there's a accident, I will have a chance to survive, it's pretty protective.
TheZoizi 2 years ago
being logical 5 mns please....if you buy a house, do you put your children close to you, and far from the door in case of intruders (I mean if someone get ine the house, he strikes the adults first, like that you have a chance to protect the kids and give them a chance to hide etc).where you can hear them at night...or really close to the principal door?....i don't get that....
TheZoizi 2 years ago
so whats with the house today? im guessing its still there, i doubt anyone lives there! who would? is her roo m still the way it is?
taryndancer29 2 years ago
The man who killed her must have studied the house for a longtime to know how to get in and stuff. He's probably a pedophile who saw her around town and in pageants and decided to stalk her so that he could do things to her. I feel sooo sorry for the Ramsey family and JonBenet. Why would he do that to her? why?
AdorableJonBenet 2 years ago
I agree with you 100%..she was exposed i think to a world she shouldn't had been..
feel bad for the parents.. I can imagine how guilty the mother felt.. knowing she exposed her...
cegrace15 2 years ago 3
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jerryjamify 2 years ago
sounds sick but i want that house its realllly nice, despite the drama surrounding it, still really nice and big
jessmarie12953 2 years ago
2 big if u ask me. it's like a bloody department store!
sarge991 2 years ago
thats a fair sized crib
mistressmpt 2 years ago
if I had a house that big I'd have better security
lizzard9009 2 years ago 4
This comment has received too many negative votes show
It was the parents of course.
Mother was jealous of the attention her husband gave to little girl in form of molestation and rape, so she killed her in competitive rage.
Anonymous00230 2 years ago
God Damn! someone tell me, were the ramseys rich or something? look @ the size of the house!
Mayorpuffenstuff 2 years ago
@Mayorpuffenstuff yes like 4 something million he had, i forgot why.....
Gvanillavodka 2 years ago
What if he had walked in to plan the crime and JonBenet happened to see him. So he grabbed her then and worked quickly. He made a note for the money and brought her to the basement. Locked the door. She then put up a fight started screaming so he choked her to shut her up. Then accidently killed her. So when she died he ran and got out the basement window
DanielleDeshongAct 2 years ago
It's possible that some obsessed stalker could have "studied" the house, possibly even breaking in to plan the real crime.
emeriesan 2 years ago
yes, remember the elizabeth smart case? stranger took a 12 year old from her own bedroom with her sister IN the room.
cincinnatikate 2 years ago 5
if only the walls of her little bedroom could talk............
Raeanne231 2 years ago 7
Oh My arent we all, just "Armchair Detectives"
lexistree 2 years ago 22
John Eller and Steve Thomas should marry each other and spend the remainder of their days in retarded bliss.
vehicularmanslover 2 years ago 4
Or a clever intruder who didnt want to risk getting caught going into a house with a ransom note..
Well evidently he didnt mind running the risk of getting caught while sitting in the fucking house writing a ransom note that was longer than War and Peace.
celticlofts 2 years ago 58
@celticlofts Good point. The thing is though, he might have written it while in the basement or something, which would definitely lessen the chances that he could be caught while writing it.
irhjma30000 1 year ago
@celticlofts Good point. The thing is though, he may have written it while in the basement or something, since he would be less likely to be caught there. Also, that house is freaking huge, and if the parents bedroom was on the top floor like it says, someone who knew that maybe figured he could get away with snooping around a bit downstairs. The part I don't get, is what they have said about JonBenet having signs of repeated sexual assault on her body that was done over time....
irhjma30000 1 year ago
@celticlofts hahaha. totally true
abrowning0421 1 year ago
@celticlofts This is the problem. If the note was written before then they needed to steal the notepad before the crime, two visits to the house. One visit means the intruder spent at least 10 minutes writing a letter, why would you do that? Bill McReynolds is the main suspect...Michael Helgoth is the other.
warriorprince1010 11 months ago