The best camera is the one that works best for you. $800 is not a lot if it is that camera. People Blow $7K on M9's and are convinced it is better than a 5D mark II. Its about the tool, not the price.
@loudogg3367 The M9 is still a full frame camera with exquisite performance, this would be the same as if Leica had shoved a M43 sensor into a $7k camera. Sigma is trying to price an APS-C foveron camera at $7k and people are eating them alive for it. This Q garbage that has zero justification for existing; under no circumstance will it render as sublime as its competition so don't you dare ever mutter real cameras like the M9, or heck any 'budget' DSLR or Evil camera in the same breath!.
@Danaceb A typical GWC response. GWC – Guy With Camera, are human males in their reproductive age, who inside their cameras, lenses and their performance reflect their own selves, body parts, and performance in those existential, bed-related disciplines.
Thus technical image quality (or the quality of their perceived sexual performance) cannot be good if the aparatus and sensor is too small (obviously referring to their manhood), and will defame anything that dares to prove otherwise.
@PixartComAu I don't think you're helping your case with that kind of talk. (Your attack on his supposed masculinity can be seen as a bolstering of your own masculinity.) This matter can be handled simply. We only need to see the pictures produced from the camera and compare them to other cameras within the same pixel range. If they are decent/good, then it's worth the money for its other benefits: relatively low cost and high portability.
Come on guys, stop fighting for witch one is the best camera or have the greatest features or what not. In the end, the most valuable photos in History were taken with low ended cameras!!!
As for this Pentax, doesnt seems to be the BEST camera of the year at all but it doesnt look that bad either! We need to test it first. Unfortunately the price is waaaaay to much! At least 500 would be a fair price!
@SquirrelFromGradLife Now about the "Sony have not cracked the contrast based auto focus system" crap of yours, I want more technical detail about that claim. You mind to post a link to back up your statement? If you find the AF of GF3 faster, thats good. But in C3 it will AF fast enough just like normal cameras today. Just because something is faster it makes the other one slow.Your claimed "Sony NEX cameras CAN'T focus for shit" is completely wrong. You really dont know about cameras.
This is the smartest camera system introduced in a decade. It's true forward thinking, and letting technology take care of sensors, but dedicating everything else to ultimate performance in smallest size possible. (Just a year ago people believed APS-C sensors will never beat 35mm sensors, but now APS-C beats them tech wise). This is interchangeable camera system of the future, which is hard for many to accept simply because many believe "bigger is better". Well, even iPad proves you wrong.
@PixartComAu Are you kidding us with that? really... what a bunch of bullshit...
how is that system smart at all? who is going to buy a camera like that when they can get a micro 4/3 camera it the same price with better image quality and a wider selection of lenses at a lower cost? who..
and bigger is better... the bigger the censor the better the image... and your ipad references is actually completely retarded... how does that even apply to cameras...LOL...
@SquirrelFromGradLife It's just for people who just want the functionality and control of a higher-end camera in a really small package, and don't necessarily care about not having the better functionality of a larger sensor.
@master777999 First of all the cameras functionality is in no way related to the size of the censor at all... The censor size do mainly relate to image quality and low light performance.
If Pentax really were interested in giving the user most functionality then they would have made it into a micro 4/3 format camera.. but they didnt.. and thats typical for Pentax, they are working so hard to go out of business and its sad because the make a really good medium size format camera that kinda cheap.
@Reneyssa Fast AF...LOL.. Man you're in denial.. Those same reviers also calls the Nikon 3100 a good camera..LOL..
Sweetheart if you look at any review of the C3 its clear that in video mode the Sony contrast based auto focus is NOT fast.. The SLT phase detection auto focus system on my Sony a55 is fast but its NOT the same system the C3 uses. Sony have NOT cracked the contrast based auto focus system like Panasonic have for mirrorless cameras. The C3 can't basically auto focus in video mode!
@SquirrelFromGradLife You really have no idea what are you talking about. GF3 has built in flash but do you have any idea how weak is that? its like a flash from a cellphone so its almost useless. C3 support external flash. And did you say G3 has tiny bit larger sensor compare to GF3? That alone proves that you have no clue. GF3 sensor is Four thirds 17.3x13.0mm and C3 sensor is APS-C 23.4x15.6mm. Is that tiny bit to you? Man you're stupid, really.. You are getting owned by me. go research boy
@SquirrelFromGradLife Yea Nikon 3100 is a good camera. You think its not? Let me hear your point. Its just because there are better cameras does not make the other one bad. Your a55 is a good camera, but if the a77 comes out does it make your a55 bad? Nex C3 does not AF in video because its an improve Nex-3. Its not supposed to be successor to Nex-5 which is do AF in video. Are you getting the point now? Reviewers didnt have a problem about the AF of C3. Your claim is nothing but BS.
@SquirrelFromGradLife I forgot to add something. You were laughing that C3 does not have a built-in flash, right? Well the C3 comes with an attachable flash in the box and support larger flash. In GF3 you are stuck to that tiny weak built-in flash. GF3 has nothing on C3 when it comes to IQ. C3 is a DSLT in a compact body. C3 has more in-camera features. Oh yea Sony NEX C3 is cheaper.
@ceejayclassic Sony NEX-C3 doesnt win anything.I have a Sony a55 and it works great, but after seeing what the C3 can do and how its contrast based auto focus is completely useless the C3 doesnt win anything.
The Panasonic GF2 and GF3 wins hands down over both of those two.. Having tried the GF3 at a tech show in Germany its auto focus is as good as the Sony a55 but the a55 win on image quality.
Panasonic have really cracked the contrast based auto focus that suck so bad for other manufactures.
@JogBird but its a shame it cant focus...Sony have not cracked the contrast based auto focus system like Panasonic have and their system is now as fast and as good as Sony's SLT system.. Having tried the Panasonic GF3 its as fast as the auto focus on my Sony a55 and with the touch screen and ability to rack focus Panasonic actually edges in front of Sony.
@Reneyssa You keep saying that bullshit and we keep laughing at you.from what I can see from your channel you have absolutely no idea what makes a good camera.
The Sony NEX cameras CAN'T focus for shit...its horrible and in video mode its really embarrassing.Sony have not cracked the contrast based auto focus system unlike Panasonic.The Sony SLT system works great but when it come to mirrorless cameras Sony have a long way to go.
Your shit about C3 being better than the GF3 is worth fuck all
@SquirrelFromGradLife Who is laughing? You? For what I see you are the one who have no damn clue about camera. You talk like Nex-C3 is horrible in AF which is not true. If you find the AF of GF3 faster and more accurate, is that makes it a better camera? Lets see the advantage of C3 compare to GF3 ;
@Reneyssa the C3 doesnt even have a flash... end of story..
larger censor...LOL.. yeah compared to a full frame 35 mm censor like in the 5D mrk II it's HUGE and works so well... no sweetheart the C3 has a tiny bit bigger censor than the GF3 but the end result and picture quality is the same and you cant spot the difference even if you tried 100 times...
and your bullshit about higher ISO.... who shoots up there anyway? No one because it looks horrible.
@Reneyssa Now whats the advantage of GF3? touch screen, built-in flash, and full HD video. aside those, Nex C3 completely destroy GF3. Get your fact straight. Go do some research. You are making yourself look stupid boy.
@Reneyssa LOL... yeah besides just about everything that's important..LOL.. oh a touch screen where you can rack focus in video mode...LOL.. oh a touch screen you say... oh a flash... so the C3 doesnt have a flash..LOL.. oh. Who needs that?..LOL.. oh better video quality... yeah who needs that anyway when the C3 cant focus in video mode..LOL..
auto focus...yeah. basically the C3 can't auto focus in video mode and the Panasonic GF3 has the extremely fast, accurate and best contrast based system
I can't get over all of the negative comments I've been reading about this camera on the Internets. Personally, I would love one and think it's long over due. For those who don't get the concept, this camera is not for you.
The only fly in the ointment is that Nikon is supposed to be working on a similar camera with a larger sensor - but that also means larger lenses.
nice little toy !! but too expensive!!
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Danaceb 7 months ago
The Photographer still makes the Picture, not the Camera :)))
ANGELGUZMAN11 7 months ago 3
The best camera is the one that works best for you. $800 is not a lot if it is that camera. People Blow $7K on M9's and are convinced it is better than a 5D mark II. Its about the tool, not the price.
loudogg3367 7 months ago
@loudogg3367 The M9 is still a full frame camera with exquisite performance, this would be the same as if Leica had shoved a M43 sensor into a $7k camera. Sigma is trying to price an APS-C foveron camera at $7k and people are eating them alive for it. This Q garbage that has zero justification for existing; under no circumstance will it render as sublime as its competition so don't you dare ever mutter real cameras like the M9, or heck any 'budget' DSLR or Evil camera in the same breath!.
Danaceb 7 months ago
@Danaceb A typical GWC response. GWC – Guy With Camera, are human males in their reproductive age, who inside their cameras, lenses and their performance reflect their own selves, body parts, and performance in those existential, bed-related disciplines.
Thus technical image quality (or the quality of their perceived sexual performance) cannot be good if the aparatus and sensor is too small (obviously referring to their manhood), and will defame anything that dares to prove otherwise.
PixartComAu 7 months ago
@PixartComAu I don't think you're helping your case with that kind of talk. (Your attack on his supposed masculinity can be seen as a bolstering of your own masculinity.) This matter can be handled simply. We only need to see the pictures produced from the camera and compare them to other cameras within the same pixel range. If they are decent/good, then it's worth the money for its other benefits: relatively low cost and high portability.
keysignify 6 months ago
Somebody here has a grumpu attituuuude!
Come on guys, stop fighting for witch one is the best camera or have the greatest features or what not. In the end, the most valuable photos in History were taken with low ended cameras!!!
As for this Pentax, doesnt seems to be the BEST camera of the year at all but it doesnt look that bad either! We need to test it first. Unfortunately the price is waaaaay to much! At least 500 would be a fair price!
deadkrusty6 7 months ago
Pentax is really trying so hard to go out of business....
SquirrelFromGradLife 8 months ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife Now about the "Sony have not cracked the contrast based auto focus system" crap of yours, I want more technical detail about that claim. You mind to post a link to back up your statement? If you find the AF of GF3 faster, thats good. But in C3 it will AF fast enough just like normal cameras today. Just because something is faster it makes the other one slow.Your claimed "Sony NEX cameras CAN'T focus for shit" is completely wrong. You really dont know about cameras.
Reneyssa 7 months ago
Isn't photography all about having FUN!?? For the detractors of this camera, they seem to forget this.
thestrid82 8 months ago
This is the smartest camera system introduced in a decade. It's true forward thinking, and letting technology take care of sensors, but dedicating everything else to ultimate performance in smallest size possible. (Just a year ago people believed APS-C sensors will never beat 35mm sensors, but now APS-C beats them tech wise). This is interchangeable camera system of the future, which is hard for many to accept simply because many believe "bigger is better". Well, even iPad proves you wrong.
PixartComAu 8 months ago
@PixartComAu Are you kidding us with that? really... what a bunch of bullshit...
how is that system smart at all? who is going to buy a camera like that when they can get a micro 4/3 camera it the same price with better image quality and a wider selection of lenses at a lower cost? who..
and bigger is better... the bigger the censor the better the image... and your ipad references is actually completely retarded... how does that even apply to cameras...LOL...
SquirrelFromGradLife 8 months ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife It's just for people who just want the functionality and control of a higher-end camera in a really small package, and don't necessarily care about not having the better functionality of a larger sensor.
master777999 7 months ago
@master777999 First of all the cameras functionality is in no way related to the size of the censor at all... The censor size do mainly relate to image quality and low light performance.
If Pentax really were interested in giving the user most functionality then they would have made it into a micro 4/3 format camera.. but they didnt.. and thats typical for Pentax, they are working so hard to go out of business and its sad because the make a really good medium size format camera that kinda cheap.
SquirrelFromGradLife 7 months ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife All the review of C3 saying it has fast AF. so your claim about C3 cannot focus is nothing but BS.
Reneyssa 7 months ago
@Reneyssa Fast AF...LOL.. Man you're in denial.. Those same reviers also calls the Nikon 3100 a good camera..LOL..
Sweetheart if you look at any review of the C3 its clear that in video mode the Sony contrast based auto focus is NOT fast.. The SLT phase detection auto focus system on my Sony a55 is fast but its NOT the same system the C3 uses. Sony have NOT cracked the contrast based auto focus system like Panasonic have for mirrorless cameras. The C3 can't basically auto focus in video mode!
SquirrelFromGradLife 7 months ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife You really have no idea what are you talking about. GF3 has built in flash but do you have any idea how weak is that? its like a flash from a cellphone so its almost useless. C3 support external flash. And did you say G3 has tiny bit larger sensor compare to GF3? That alone proves that you have no clue. GF3 sensor is Four thirds 17.3x13.0mm and C3 sensor is APS-C 23.4x15.6mm. Is that tiny bit to you? Man you're stupid, really.. You are getting owned by me. go research boy
Reneyssa 7 months ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife Yea Nikon 3100 is a good camera. You think its not? Let me hear your point. Its just because there are better cameras does not make the other one bad. Your a55 is a good camera, but if the a77 comes out does it make your a55 bad? Nex C3 does not AF in video because its an improve Nex-3. Its not supposed to be successor to Nex-5 which is do AF in video. Are you getting the point now? Reviewers didnt have a problem about the AF of C3. Your claim is nothing but BS.
Reneyssa 7 months ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife I forgot to add something. You were laughing that C3 does not have a built-in flash, right? Well the C3 comes with an attachable flash in the box and support larger flash. In GF3 you are stuck to that tiny weak built-in flash. GF3 has nothing on C3 when it comes to IQ. C3 is a DSLT in a compact body. C3 has more in-camera features. Oh yea Sony NEX C3 is cheaper.
Reneyssa 7 months ago
Street photographer's dream, surely!
dogblessamerica 8 months ago
@dogblessamerica having okay or decent pic quality maybe but epic win of low profile......
looking forward to it
Yuiche 8 months ago
Sony NEX-C3 Wins!
ceejayclassic 8 months ago
@ceejayclassic Sony NEX-C3 doesnt win anything.I have a Sony a55 and it works great, but after seeing what the C3 can do and how its contrast based auto focus is completely useless the C3 doesnt win anything.
The Panasonic GF2 and GF3 wins hands down over both of those two.. Having tried the GF3 at a tech show in Germany its auto focus is as good as the Sony a55 but the a55 win on image quality.
Panasonic have really cracked the contrast based auto focus that suck so bad for other manufactures.
SquirrelFromGradLife 8 months ago
designed for kids.... yeah...
daffyzhang 8 months ago
It is not fair to compare it to Sony NEXC3. Compare the two sensor size man
blackdindang 8 months ago
I wonder who will buy this....
tanhockjun 8 months ago
the sony nexc3 is just a bit bigger and 100x better.. and cheaper too
JogBird 8 months ago
@JogBird but its a shame it cant focus...Sony have not cracked the contrast based auto focus system like Panasonic have and their system is now as fast and as good as Sony's SLT system.. Having tried the Panasonic GF3 its as fast as the auto focus on my Sony a55 and with the touch screen and ability to rack focus Panasonic actually edges in front of Sony.
SquirrelFromGradLife 8 months ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife C3 is a better overall camera compare to GF3. get your fact straight
Reneyssa 7 months ago
@Reneyssa You keep saying that bullshit and we keep laughing at you.from what I can see from your channel you have absolutely no idea what makes a good camera.
The Sony NEX cameras CAN'T focus for shit...its horrible and in video mode its really embarrassing.Sony have not cracked the contrast based auto focus system unlike Panasonic.The Sony SLT system works great but when it come to mirrorless cameras Sony have a long way to go.
Your shit about C3 being better than the GF3 is worth fuck all
SquirrelFromGradLife 7 months ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife Who is laughing? You? For what I see you are the one who have no damn clue about camera. You talk like Nex-C3 is horrible in AF which is not true. If you find the AF of GF3 faster and more accurate, is that makes it a better camera? Lets see the advantage of C3 compare to GF3 ;
C3 support external flash
C3 has larger sensor
C3 has higher sensor resolution (16mp)
C3 has more focus point
C3 has higher max ISO
C3 shoot faster
C3 has more features (Panorama, HDR, etc)
Reneyssa 7 months ago
@Reneyssa the C3 doesnt even have a flash... end of story..
larger censor...LOL.. yeah compared to a full frame 35 mm censor like in the 5D mrk II it's HUGE and works so well... no sweetheart the C3 has a tiny bit bigger censor than the GF3 but the end result and picture quality is the same and you cant spot the difference even if you tried 100 times...
and your bullshit about higher ISO.... who shoots up there anyway? No one because it looks horrible.
and not they both shoot slow actually..
SquirrelFromGradLife 7 months ago
@Reneyssa Now whats the advantage of GF3? touch screen, built-in flash, and full HD video. aside those, Nex C3 completely destroy GF3. Get your fact straight. Go do some research. You are making yourself look stupid boy.
Reneyssa 7 months ago
@Reneyssa LOL... yeah besides just about everything that's important..LOL.. oh a touch screen where you can rack focus in video mode...LOL.. oh a touch screen you say... oh a flash... so the C3 doesnt have a flash..LOL.. oh. Who needs that?..LOL.. oh better video quality... yeah who needs that anyway when the C3 cant focus in video mode..LOL..
auto focus...yeah. basically the C3 can't auto focus in video mode and the Panasonic GF3 has the extremely fast, accurate and best contrast based system
SquirrelFromGradLife 7 months ago
I can't get over all of the negative comments I've been reading about this camera on the Internets. Personally, I would love one and think it's long over due. For those who don't get the concept, this camera is not for you.
The only fly in the ointment is that Nikon is supposed to be working on a similar camera with a larger sensor - but that also means larger lenses.
Pro1er 8 months ago
@Pro1er The camera has a lot of great features, but the price is just ridiculous...
Fluidshine 8 months ago