haha if you believe this your a dumbass your telling me one battery that is frozen can power up 6 cars a good battery is what 12.6v and 14.2v when its running nope that horse shit the electrons on the battery will be slower to react with one another when you turn on the car it would have to split power into 6 so thats like 2.1v each, anything less 10 volts wont even let a car turn over. So please Die Hard stop advertising fake bullshit
Probably. It's CCA (at 0F) is over 1,100A. They staggered the starts. It has 205 minutes RC @ 25A (which means, if you put a 25 amp load on it, it will power it for 205 minutes (3 hours 25 minutes) before dropping below 10.2V). I have no doubt it would be able to start 6 cummins (5.9 or 6.7) with grid heaters running without an issue. I'm talking about the PM-1 btw
Try to start all the cars simultaniously! you could start hundreds of cars the way you do, cause the started cars give power for the not yet started cars!
Nice advertising, like any other car battery with the same power rating wouldn't do that, sure the Die Hard might last longer, but they act like its six times more powerful than your average battery, LOL 9and it only started one at a time watch closely)
Back of the ice is chisled out cables down thru drilled holes. But what gets me the Cars in 1973 took a crap load of cranking amps six cars today would equal 2 cars back then does Sears think us just stupid or what. Im going to buy an interstate battery now just for the stupidity
@RU469NO actually you pretty stupid because back then batteries were much smaller and need much less power to start because everything ran manually and didnt have a ton of electronics. so you actually need more battery power to start a modern car vs a vintage car. indeed interstate is better
1973 Cadilac cranking amp spec at start up @35degF 570amps. 2009 Cadilac STS @35DegF 179amps. PER GM Engineers site and I am a Retired Electrical Engineer from GM. Your Turn
Furthermore If you noticed when you crank your vehicle everything except ECM and Starter Disengage. No Electronics operate during this period. So your theory on old cars not accurate. I Do Agree with you on interstate. If Diehards were the best why doesnt semi trucks use them? My freind who owns 7 18wheelers sayes he uses interstate also
they didnt even start all the cars at the same time what happened was it started one and the rest started off of the alternators of the other running cars
cranking amps drop in cold weather and the reason they all started was one turned on first once it started the alternator charged the battery back up and allowed the rest of the cars to start
but, they say that if your car falls into a lake while your driving that all of your windows will still work so you can roll down the window and get out....?
no..once all ur electronics get flooded nothing will work. it wont work right anyways-crazy things can happen when stuff starts shorting out everywhere
The Computors that are installed in the engine comparments are waterproof by FHTA or you couldnt drive thru water. However when the electrical components get wet they will fail
woow , very impressive . BUT , how is a battery works inside an ice cube , thats like - and + are touching , which the buttery wont work ... that doesn't make any since
@thebestsin its not the same as the electricity thats in your house dude... lol. Does the battery short out when you drive your car while its raining or snowing? I think not. Anyway i would still personally take my red top optima over die hard
So the diehard started one car, and then that car started the next car, and then the 3rd car was started by the first two. For this to be impressive the would have to pull the serpentine belt so there wasn't 600-700 amps @12 volts worth of current being created by all those cars running. A block of ice is fail... 32 Degrees big woop. How about in a block of DRY ice?? No that would be cool... pun intended.
The alternator does not make enough power to charge a battery when the car is idling. It barely keeps the headlights and radio on at idle. When you are at a steady speed, say, on a freeway, then the alternator can charge the battery. But even then, very little.
That depends on the alternator. The 70 amp unit in my 91 Mercedes works like you describe, but the 120 amp unit in my 99 VW can and does charge at idle speed. At idle it probably makes 90 amps.
yes it does depend on the alternator. The 175 Amp unit I had in my old car was way more than enough to power my 800 Watt amp and Send a huge amount of currant to my battery. At idle it made 140 amps. It was a special alternator though. Upgraded bearings and a heat sink.
right! a test that mimicked the total current draw from 5 cars should have been used. This test doesn't impress me. Probably why I bought a napa battery
I know this ad is a bit over the top, but you know what? I have a DIE Hard that I bought 5 years and it still kicking and i drive a 4x4 4.0L JEEP. Now they have a DIE HARD PLATINUM can't go wrong with that and I live in CANADA it's not SIBERIA but it's not a walk in the park for cars in the WINTER.
after one car is started, the alternator should kick in to start charging the battery, and would help start all the cars. the cars used should be the same make and model and should be started at the same time to make it a valid test.
not impressed. you have them all crank at the exact same time putting draw on the battery at once, and then prove to me the cars didnt have any form of battery backup, them i might be wowed. what they did here is the same as if i connected the battery to each car individually and cranked.
The sears die hard platinum battery isn't even made by sears. Its a Odyssey battery. is is a very good battery and a lot better than those optima batteries
the way i see it, the battery only needs to start the first car. after that, the battery is in parallel with that started car's alternator. thus, the other car's are also in parallel with that alternator. thus, they are all effectively starting off the first car's alternator and the battery.
@Turbo617 it is a bogus ad for sure but, they started all the cars within two seconds, and that's not enough time for an alternator to put out amps to start another car just sayin. good day mate
@TrapOxidizer that may be but they don't generate max amps right off the batt, and an average alternator on a 4 banger is 65-85 amps at max output, your average 4 banger takes about 300+ amps to crank. and not to mention the alternator is not used to start a car, it's used to keep the bettery charged
@Turbo617 I agree with you, however, the alternator of a car does not charge a battery at the engine's idle, AND even if it did, the split second difference would not be enough to recharge the battery before it had to start the next one.
Agreed, though, make that bitch start 6 diesel engines and I'll buy one right now.
If only they showed another portion of the commercial with the battery "melting" the ice around it ... wait, bad idea, the BATTERY would short itself out, will it?
The platinum battery is also what is called an AGM battery or adsorbed glass mat. This battery is completely sealed with no outside interaction. Plus inside a block of ice is EXACTLY 32 degrees. The battery would see colder temps in real life on a -10 degree day.
The inside of a block of ice could very well be colder than 32 degrees. If the ambient temperature is below 32 degrees then heat will be carried by conduction to the surface of the block and loss to the environment. Differences in temperature can be used to do work. If there was a permanent increased temperature then infinite work could be done.
haha if you believe this your a dumbass your telling me one battery that is frozen can power up 6 cars a good battery is what 12.6v and 14.2v when its running nope that horse shit the electrons on the battery will be slower to react with one another when you turn on the car it would have to split power into 6 so thats like 2.1v each, anything less 10 volts wont even let a car turn over. So please Die Hard stop advertising fake bullshit
42zerodro 1 day ago
@42zerodro Alternator?
batterez 19 hours ago
johnny 5 mother fucker
LOPEZdJUNGLIST 1 week ago
Probably. It's CCA (at 0F) is over 1,100A. They staggered the starts. It has 205 minutes RC @ 25A (which means, if you put a 25 amp load on it, it will power it for 205 minutes (3 hours 25 minutes) before dropping below 10.2V). I have no doubt it would be able to start 6 cummins (5.9 or 6.7) with grid heaters running without an issue. I'm talking about the PM-1 btw
elitejohnlp 3 months ago
what would happen if you sat on it
ineedmorehelp911 5 months ago
@ineedmorehelp911 DIEHARD BATTERIES WILL BURN YOUR ASS
90129081 4 months ago
my dad got me this battery, thanks dad :) hahaha
bryced185 6 months ago
DIEHARD can you please stop adding this to stumbleupon? thank you.
86Ivar 9 months ago
I agree start cold diesels. That would be a true test.
MoparKawi 1 year ago
cool.
BoxNinjaProductions 1 year ago
hey if its so good why not using it to power an electric vehicle
cheezjacker 1 year ago
@cheezjacker Cheapest bidder, that's why
MrWorkman482 1 year ago
@cheezjacker yea, i wanna see that!
julianbell90 1 year ago
wow i need one of them!
dhfdfsfg 1 year ago
could that thing power up 6 cold(-5 degree celsius) diesel engines?
90Ming90 1 year ago
Try to start all the cars simultaniously! you could start hundreds of cars the way you do, cause the started cars give power for the not yet started cars!
86Ivar 2 years ago
@86Ivar good observation, you're totally right, what a scam this experiment was.
RyanUnplugged 1 year ago
Nice advertising, like any other car battery with the same power rating wouldn't do that, sure the Die Hard might last longer, but they act like its six times more powerful than your average battery, LOL 9and it only started one at a time watch closely)
TacticalSuperRebel 2 years ago
if you notice they didnt start all the cars at the same time so pretty much theyre only turning on one car
DopePhotography 2 years ago
@DopePhotography the cars could have different start up times.
snaphappy7530 2 years ago
Diehard vs Thermite. Epic thermite win
samn100 2 years ago
@samn100 Battery vs Reactionary chemicals like thermite? Well true they both are but sheesh thermite is cool compared to a battery!
Xxoax 2 years ago
Thermite would melt right through the battery :)
samn100 2 years ago
doubt it.
REBEL2250 2 years ago
Die hard are the shit man my dad went threw like 3 or 4 optima batterys on his 99 vette and got a diehard and has never let him down once!
styles707 2 years ago
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@RU469NO actually you pretty stupid :lol:
starguard 2 years ago
Back of the ice is chisled out cables down thru drilled holes. But what gets me the Cars in 1973 took a crap load of cranking amps six cars today would equal 2 cars back then does Sears think us just stupid or what. Im going to buy an interstate battery now just for the stupidity
RU469NO 2 years ago
@RU469NO actually you pretty stupid because back then batteries were much smaller and need much less power to start because everything ran manually and didnt have a ton of electronics. so you actually need more battery power to start a modern car vs a vintage car. indeed interstate is better
DopePhotography 2 years ago
1973 Cadilac cranking amp spec at start up @35degF 570amps. 2009 Cadilac STS @35DegF 179amps. PER GM Engineers site and I am a Retired Electrical Engineer from GM. Your Turn
RU469NO 2 years ago
Wow owned...hard..
proximxr 2 years ago
Furthermore If you noticed when you crank your vehicle everything except ECM and Starter Disengage. No Electronics operate during this period. So your theory on old cars not accurate. I Do Agree with you on interstate. If Diehards were the best why doesnt semi trucks use them? My freind who owns 7 18wheelers sayes he uses interstate also
RU469NO 2 years ago
My diehard sat for 3 years, and the truck started on the first crank.
99MLSMediaGroup 2 years ago
looks like i gotta get a diehard battery.
brentzittel 2 years ago
gay the batey should of shorted uot
57vett 2 years ago
technaly watter(ice)is an insolator so no it wouldnt
trdnismoguy 2 years ago
@trdnismoguy Only pure water is an insulator, any impurities cause it to conduct.
NeoNoggie 2 years ago
yea that is what i was talking about ppl think it conducts b/c it does when it is not pure
trdnismoguy 2 years ago
they didnt even start all the cars at the same time what happened was it started one and the rest started off of the alternators of the other running cars
whitehoodedracism 2 years ago
lets see them start all the cars at the same time
racelipo 2 years ago
hold on, doesnt the battery work better colder? so wouldnt it be able to start the sixth cars rather than the five? Somebody help me here!
felando2002 2 years ago
no. a battery will lose cranking amps as the temp drops.
shookie222 2 years ago
gotcha, thanks
felando2002 2 years ago
cranking amps drop in cold weather and the reason they all started was one turned on first once it started the alternator charged the battery back up and allowed the rest of the cars to start
DeeeJayThrash 2 years ago
i figured smething like that is what was going on
felando2002 2 years ago
batteries die faster the colder it is. but its a fake because the battery would have shorted out being covered in water
jjjester123321 2 years ago
but, they say that if your car falls into a lake while your driving that all of your windows will still work so you can roll down the window and get out....?
felando2002 2 years ago
no..once all ur electronics get flooded nothing will work. it wont work right anyways-crazy things can happen when stuff starts shorting out everywhere
jjjester123321 2 years ago
cool thats what i thought but i needed a second op thnx
felando2002 2 years ago
no u cant open it. in this show called myth busters they tested this. the car window would work under water but not under all that presssure.
rickyjangatang1 2 years ago
MythBusters is a pretty good show so ill go with you on that then
felando2002 2 years ago
@felando2002 What happens when the computer goes nutz because its under water? Once the computer gets wet your fucked.
JakeWeb93 2 years ago
The Computors that are installed in the engine comparments are waterproof by FHTA or you couldnt drive thru water. However when the electrical components get wet they will fail
RU469NO 2 years ago
woow , very impressive . BUT , how is a battery works inside an ice cube , thats like - and + are touching , which the buttery wont work ... that doesn't make any since
thebestsin 2 years ago
actually for electricity to flow through water the water needs electrolites
foxracingusa1 2 years ago
@thebestsin its not the same as the electricity thats in your house dude... lol. Does the battery short out when you drive your car while its raining or snowing? I think not. Anyway i would still personally take my red top optima over die hard
ek93477 2 years ago
DUDE! optima batteries all the way!!!!!!!!!!
hondasandhorses 2 years ago
love my yellow top <3
harujp2 2 years ago
this is complete bullshit!
dkchapss 2 years ago
I also think that it only started one car then the altanator form the first car started the next one and so on
bradgrim11 2 years ago
how do you know those cars don't have batteries they don't show the engine compartments this is a bogus test
flippo112409 2 years ago
Buy Duralast.
Omega47 2 years ago
So the diehard started one car, and then that car started the next car, and then the 3rd car was started by the first two. For this to be impressive the would have to pull the serpentine belt so there wasn't 600-700 amps @12 volts worth of current being created by all those cars running. A block of ice is fail... 32 Degrees big woop. How about in a block of DRY ice?? No that would be cool... pun intended.
SeigiSama 2 years ago
The alternator does not make enough power to charge a battery when the car is idling. It barely keeps the headlights and radio on at idle. When you are at a steady speed, say, on a freeway, then the alternator can charge the battery. But even then, very little.
starbucksmunky 2 years ago
That depends on the alternator. The 70 amp unit in my 91 Mercedes works like you describe, but the 120 amp unit in my 99 VW can and does charge at idle speed. At idle it probably makes 90 amps.
compu85 2 years ago
yes it does depend on the alternator. The 175 Amp unit I had in my old car was way more than enough to power my 800 Watt amp and Send a huge amount of currant to my battery. At idle it made 140 amps. It was a special alternator though. Upgraded bearings and a heat sink.
SeigiSama 2 years ago
i still like optima but that was amazing
ZR1KingOfTheHillZR1 2 years ago
right! a test that mimicked the total current draw from 5 cars should have been used. This test doesn't impress me. Probably why I bought a napa battery
smearnoff5100 2 years ago
they all didnt crank at once even
FORDGTFANATIC 2 years ago
This is bad ass. I would like to see the haters create a battery that would do this.
Chucktallica101 2 years ago
optima yellow tops lol
hwhhww 2 years ago
omg do you believe what they say? LoL
blower069 2 years ago
I know this ad is a bit over the top, but you know what? I have a DIE Hard that I bought 5 years and it still kicking and i drive a 4x4 4.0L JEEP. Now they have a DIE HARD PLATINUM can't go wrong with that and I live in CANADA it's not SIBERIA but it's not a walk in the park for cars in the WINTER.
devilcharm 2 years ago
after one car is started, the alternator should kick in to start charging the battery, and would help start all the cars. the cars used should be the same make and model and should be started at the same time to make it a valid test.
infaredburrito 2 years ago
@infaredburrito The thing is, i really don't think it could start no more then maybe two at a time. :/
roboman79 2 years ago
not impressed. you have them all crank at the exact same time putting draw on the battery at once, and then prove to me the cars didnt have any form of battery backup, them i might be wowed. what they did here is the same as if i connected the battery to each car individually and cranked.
wizzlestick111 2 years ago
Ummm they all start at different times, thus once one starts it now has extra amps that it can spare to help start the other cars.
JuS12Turbo 2 years ago 3
Try starting a 2 diesels with one battery. I'm talking about American Truck diesels, not the <2.0L euro car deisels.
Mayo07J 2 years ago 4
the person adding these videos to stumbleupon needs to stop
1ron1c 2 years ago 37
It may very well be the DIEHARD people or their advertising agency as a marketing technique.
Much cheaper than paying for air time.
zachplaysdrums 2 years ago
@1ron1c That person's probably gettin paid.
NorseIronKIng 2 years ago
The sears die hard platinum battery isn't even made by sears. Its a Odyssey battery. is is a very good battery and a lot better than those optima batteries
shackwrrr 2 years ago
the way i see it, the battery only needs to start the first car. after that, the battery is in parallel with that started car's alternator. thus, the other car's are also in parallel with that alternator. thus, they are all effectively starting off the first car's alternator and the battery.
etiolated 2 years ago
With it frozen? Freeze a battery, and you fuck with the equilibrium of the reactants and products inside... It is impressive
jimmygarcia28 2 years ago
Incorrect. Battery acid freezes at -85*f. At 0-32*f, you simply slow down the chemical reaction and produce less amperage.
Add the fact that as each car was started, its alternator was providing amperage to help start every other car in the line.
Make the battery start 6 cold Diesel engines, THAT would be impressive, not 6 wimpy sub-2 liter 4-banger gas engines.
Turbo617 2 years ago 27
The 70s ad they started all the cars at the same time and with a 2 year old battery too
shackwrrr 2 years ago
the engines took a lot more juice to get started back then, too.
warkittydotcom 2 years ago
yay, im not the only one that watched this and also noticed a bunch of 4bangers. if im not mistaken the white car 2nd from right is a civic hybrid.
appello05 2 years ago
@Turbo617 it is a bogus ad for sure but, they started all the cars within two seconds, and that's not enough time for an alternator to put out amps to start another car just sayin. good day mate
charlietow 1 year ago
@charlietow Actually its ample time. Alternators generate amperage as soon as they start spinning.
TrapOxidizer 1 year ago
@TrapOxidizer that may be but they don't generate max amps right off the batt, and an average alternator on a 4 banger is 65-85 amps at max output, your average 4 banger takes about 300+ amps to crank. and not to mention the alternator is not used to start a car, it's used to keep the bettery charged
charlietow 1 year ago
@Turbo617 I agree with you, however, the alternator of a car does not charge a battery at the engine's idle, AND even if it did, the split second difference would not be enough to recharge the battery before it had to start the next one.
Agreed, though, make that bitch start 6 diesel engines and I'll buy one right now.
oriclepro09 1 year ago 2
@Turbo617
If only they showed another portion of the commercial with the battery "melting" the ice around it ... wait, bad idea, the BATTERY would short itself out, will it?
HoneycombAgent 1 year ago
The platinum battery is also what is called an AGM battery or adsorbed glass mat. This battery is completely sealed with no outside interaction. Plus inside a block of ice is EXACTLY 32 degrees. The battery would see colder temps in real life on a -10 degree day.
shackwrrr 2 years ago 3
The inside of a block of ice could very well be colder than 32 degrees. If the ambient temperature is below 32 degrees then heat will be carried by conduction to the surface of the block and loss to the environment. Differences in temperature can be used to do work. If there was a permanent increased temperature then infinite work could be done.
DaleSwanson 2 years ago
convection I think
bunkfoss 2 years ago
Convection is impossible in a solid. Convection is the movement of a fluid transferring heat. Conduction is the transfer of heat by direct contact.
DaleSwanson 2 years ago
Frozen battery isnt that impressive at all, as cranking a frozen engine is, together with highly viscous oil inside.
VEC7ORlt 2 years ago
Each car draws about 75 amps.
450mps on a battery with a CCA rating of 880amps at 0*f...not impressive at all.
Turbo617 2 years ago 2