Andrea Dworkin's Testimony to the Attorney General On Pornography (1/4)

[BunrakukenIII]

And probably from as much from Feminists who recognize that this sort of misandry is one of the lingering ghosts of the radical era; a ghost which needs to put to rest if the Cause is to be treated with the respect and consideration which is due.

Did Dworkins, indeed does any one on the Feminist right, really believe that fighting for an openly hateful attitude towards men does anything other than pour scorn and ridicule on the prospect of true equality.

[veganstud]

So much of what she speaks about here is very true. So much of the Pornography described here is all over the internet and it truly makes one think of how much violence towards women has it's roots in pronography. I do wonder what she thinks about not for profit porn of couples tapeing themselves or even not for profit pornography of lesbians made by lesbians or not for profit gay men porn made by gay men? What a powerful and brave testimony! Very intrested in her work now.

[bbnatedogg]

One MAJOR PROBLEM with her ASSERTIONS! No researcher has ever backed up all these HYPERBOLIC claims with any CREDIBLE DATA. It's really easy to make all kinds of claims. It's much harder to back them up. I don't disagree that a large number of the men and women who work in porn had bad childhoods and are trying to work out psychological trauma. But it is not our place to decide whether or not they can do so. Her claims of porn leading to more sexual assault ate just plain incorrect!!!

[CheapDumbFun]

@bbnatedogg I think you're missing the point. There are adult women who CHOOSE to work in sweatshops as well as CHOOSE to be prostitutes, as noam chomsky further explains. The point IS our system is corrupt and broken because it has created jobs so degrading and exploitative, the human is taken out of the equation. It all comes down to money. I'm going to generalize and say yes, MOST women do not grow up wanting to be porn stars and most parents do not want to their children to be porn stars.

[CheapDumbFun]

@bbnatedogg Dworkin is a feminist theorist which means her "claims" are theories. If we're watching a person who has psychological trauma as a child perform humiliating acts, how is that healthy and why do we allow it? That means they are victims and more susceptible to violence. If this is normal, why are there no jobs for men to make as much money and go through the same acts as female performers? Why is the suicide rate so high in pornography industry? The industry dehumanizes in violent ways

[bbnatedogg]

@CheapDumbFun First off, men DO work in the porn industry! Is it NOT degrading to them as well??? Secondly, her claims are NOT THEORIES, they are HYPOTHESES! I think you're confused about SCIENCE. THEORIES are hypotheses that are SUPPORTED by EMPIRICAL DATA. They have been PUBLISHED in PEER REVIEWED publications and there is at least some agreement in the field as to their MERITS! Her claims have NONE of this. Just the MUSINGS of a SAD and PATHETIC PSEUDO_SCIENTIST!

[bbnatedogg]

@CheapDumbFun Also, the men in porn make MUCH LESS so there are jobs for them to do the same and make LESS! That is a FACT! Not everyone in porn is working out psychological trauma and it is not unhealthy for everyone. Even if it was it wouldn't matter. We don't prevent people from doing anything that is unhealthy for them and we should not. Being as fat as Dworkin was is UNHEALTHY as well. Should we NOT ALLOW her to be this way????????????????

[bbnatedogg]

@CheapDumbFun Women that work in porn are not necessarily "more susceptible to violence"! It's easy for you to claim that but, you have no EVIDENCE to back it up. The ones that were abused are more likely to choose and stay with UNHEALTHY and ABUSIVE mates but, this would be the case with or without porn. Porn does not make men ANY MORE LIKELY to be VIOLENT or SEXUAL offenders! There is nothing to back these claims up! About 100% of men view porn so, they should all be offenders

[bbnatedogg]

@CheapDumbFunAnd why shouldn't MEN OR WOMEN be allowed to CHOOSE to be prostitutes? It's their choice and, it is obvious that making it illegal only does more damage than good to those involved in it. Equating it with sweat shops is just BULLSHIT! The physical damage of poor working conditions are much easier to QUANTIFY than the claimed PSYCHOLOGICAL damage of working in porn. You can think what you want but, we shouldn't make laws or change society based on your OPINIONS or WHIMS

[oHelmslyoRisesAgain]

i cant stand this very PC, huffy kind of sanctimonious feminism. she is just overwroughtly moaning for the whole time.

[epiksonik]

Full blown yenta

[lewdestbeast]

She speaks as if every male enjoying porn is enjoying porn that humiliates, ravages, and degrades women. Defacation, rape, bondage, and child pornography is not what regular people enjoy. What's wrong with finding women attractive and wanting to see them posing naked and having sex? What's wrong with appreciating the female form? This attraction is natural; being a big fat pig that hates and despises based on gender is not. On that note, time to watch some porn!

[nitronick389]

She's wheezing like a dying manatee. You alright?

[Densparentsdontluvhm]

Someone get this fat bitch a twinkie, she's out of breath!

[SchlomoBagelbaum]

What a handsome woman!

[satinbarbi]

Shut up you fat cow. Of course she hated porn. She was only offered roles in beast films where she was the beast.

[andycorreia]

Porn doesn't lead to rape nor is it a replacement for a loving relationship.

Why are there so many couples with active sex lives that like to watch porn together?

[andycorreia]

When a woman in the US chooses to participate in a porn movie you cannot call that rape.

[dtmcopeland]

@andycorreia it's called rape culture and pornography, particularly gonzo porn (which is mainstream porn), is a part of that. and as naom chomsky said, if a child CHOOSES to work in sweatshop, does that make it okay? No. If a woman chooses to be a part of pornography and the degradation of women, does that make it okay? Her exploitation is not excusable, regardless of whether you chose it or not. She is a victim of living in a patriarchal society. So thank you dworkin

[bbnatedogg]

@dtmcopeland You miss one MAJOR DISTINCTION! Children are not ADULTS and do not have the right to make every choice for themselves. So are you saying that women are not ADULTS and do not have the right to choose for themselves?? I guess you're the adult and, you KNOW WHAT"S BEST for all women. How pretentious. I could accuse you of the infantilization of all women, like some feminists do of men!

[oHelmslyoRisesAgain]

parts of this make no fucking sense at all..."adult women's pubic hairs are shaved so they resemble children"?! come on. have your feminist views, have your anti-porn whatever if you wish, but this is silly.

[loril1204]

I have to say, I agree with asdfheynow. These days, finding a real feminist to discuss these matters with is damn near impossible. All we have now are twentysomething 'funfems' who'd love to convince womyn that empowerment is about tottering on stillettos and whispering sweet nothings into a man's ear to get what they want. It's a cop-out. A dangerous one that will prevent progress in the arena of human rights overall. Say what you want about Andrea - she was never a coward.

[OppressedAnarchist]

I am surprised she was able to talk for as long as she did. She sounded like she was going to drop dead the second she opened her mouth. She sounded like she was trying to eat and talk while jogging up a steep hill ...

"Women 'weeze' are called 'weeze' beavers 'weeeeeze'

[OppressedAnarchist]

It is disgusting listening to her attempt to breathe and speak at the same time ...

[OppressedAnarchist]

Ham-Beast

[reginalouise24]

It is disgusting how much the commenters on this video address the looks of Andrea Dworkin. It just proves her point.

[OppressedAnarchist]

@reginalouise24 Its not just about her looks, it is also how bad she smells and how she sounds like an obese hippo running on a treadmill when she speaks ...

[leukemi]

Oh, hot!

This video is way better than pornography.

[QuickQuickSlowSlow55]

I must get out more

[iPibol]

I don't find this accurate. Before me and my husband had sex with penetration, we pleasured each other by means of oral sex during 4 months. This is because I asked for it, not him. Rape has existed since the beginning of time, long time before porn was created. Don't believe me, ready history. I was raped for over a year (when I was 4) by a 17 year old FEMALE. I believe in EQUALITY. Both women and men are both wonderful and terrible creatures that walk on earth, including myself.

[MrSpemat]

Andrea Dworkin: the ideal Jewish goddess...

[Audiomuse]

Andrea Dworkin is the biggest troll in the entire universe. For real. Thank goodness she's not around anymore to spread her hate for men.

[Khyrid]

Gay porn.

[pablofazzi]

too bad this thing died. she would have provided the world with much more laughter.....and was this photo chosen for a reason? her mouth looks quite "accessible".

[anaperformart]

Thanks for this video! Dworkin was such an inspiration. So courageous, speaking out like that! It's sad that so many years after her death, we still have idiots spewing the same sort of misogynistic rot that she had to contend with in her day.

But yeah, she was totally a hairy-legged dyke, which is AN AWESOME WAY TO BE. Seriously, much love to the hairy-legged, ball-busting, gender-abolitionist dykes who scare the crap out of wannabe sperminators like clevelandphil and Ghiblifan1!

[OppressedAnarchist]

@anaperformart Dworkin as also an inspiration for all you can eat buffet enthusiasts the world over ...

[GhibliFan1]

I'd never heard of her in my life, then tonight read a quote: "I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire." At that point, as I was typing her name into Google images, I bet my life that she was fucking fat and fucking ugly. Needless to say, I was right. Why is that always the case? I've never heard a pretty woman with a healthy sex life say anything as absurd.

[Tetrodioxide]

Oh, this woman is mentally ill. Women filmed being killed for entertainment and its rampant?! I saw this movie. It sucked and was called 8mm. Porn makes men rape? Bullshit!

[hannah11586]

Thanks very much for putting this up.

[clevelandphil]

Andrea truly was a ball-busting, man-hating, hairy-legged DIKE!!!

[hannah11586]

@clevelandphil you can totally not see her legs in these vids

[HiralShah00]

Disgusting woman.

[philipsmog]

You don't need to agree with everything she is saying to get her point. She was dramatic, inaccurate and provocative but I think for good reason. She endures humiliation for this even beyond death, but she wouldn't care, she helped advance and empower women.

[asdfheynow]

i fucking love you andrea dworkin and screw you hip feminists who need to demonize her to feel good and 'sex positive.'  her overall's are cool, get over it. she has done so much for the visibility of and ability to speak out against sexual violence and how it permeates our lives

[walklikeawarrior]

How come every anti porn feminist is an ugly nasty bitch

[Tetrodioxide]

@walklikeawarrior the two are not unrelated. ugly unsexual women that don't get it want to ruin it for all of us.

[DrownedBeliefs]

@ItsTheTransmission

That they do not do this annoys me. It annoys me that any femnist would insinuate their problems (even if they ACKNOWELDGE the problems exist for other people) are greater and more relevant than a man's. That is exactly what is meant by femnism. It carries the idea that, no matter how bad men have it, 'women have it worse'.

[DrownedBeliefs]

@ItsTheTransmission

I'm not saying 'silence yourself'. I'm saying that, if you're worried about representation, worry about how everyone is represented. If you truly, TRULY cared about how everyone, not just women, were represented, you would not sit there and call yourself a feminist. Humanism does NOT overlap with feminism because feminism is focussed solely on women, whereas humanism focusses on mere people. Why can't femnists do that? Why unite under the banner of femnism and not humanism?

[DrownedBeliefs]

@ItsTheTransmission

The definition of femnism is 'equality and rights for women'. This suggests that they are not already equal and that they do not have the same rights as men.. Femnism was established with good intentions, to give them these right. Now that women do, by law, in any civillised country, have exactly the rights as men, they focus on 'representation of women', which, ultimately, comes down to 'men objectifying women as shown in the media'.

[DrownedBeliefs]

@ItsTheTransmission

Any 'feminist' is, by the very definition of the word 'feminst', distinguishing between male and female representation... I think that's fairly obvious. So yes, 'all' feminists are making this distinction.

Reeling off how many of who do what doesn't explain how women are 'oppressed'. Can we conclude that males are 'oppressed' in education because there are more female teachers? So can we say women are 'oppressed' in porn as more porn consumers are male? Of course not.

[DrownedBeliefs]

@ItsTheTransmission

Both parties in standard, non-fetishised pornography are objectified. The man is merely his penis, and the woman her vagina. This is degrading to both men AND women. Feminism all-to-frequently argues that men are instead the source of the problem. This is misleading. There is an issue for both parties, so why distinguish male representation from female?

You speak of 'preconception' as though I have no experience in feminism. I have, rather, studied it at length.

[LinoWalker]

This woman has NO fucking idea what she's talking about.

[DrownedBeliefs]

@ItsTheTransmission

What I've never understood is how this supposed 'standard of beauty' only manages to focus on female representation.

What about the standard of beauty for men portrayed in pornography? What about the notions of penis envy that many men have no doubt suffered? Are men not told to aim for a set standard of beauty? Are men not objectified in porn?

Why are seemingly ALL feminists unable to see that the problems they have about media representation ALSO affect men?

[embracingreality]

@ItsTheTransmission I'm aware of the research. Heterosexual porn makes up the overwhelming majority of what is now a 100 billion dollar industry. Porn as a media simply could not exist without the generous and explicit cooperation of women who participate. The only porn men could make by themselves is gay porn which is a small percentage.Why would women participate when so many studies show the harm it does?

Easy money, validation, glamour, attention, selfish lack of integrity. NO accountability

[embracingreality]

@ItsTheTransmission I see feminism as utter confusion. Women in opposition to and others in support of porn all called themselves feminists, aka "feminist sex wars" of the 70's and 80's. The word feminism doesn't stand for any specific set of ideals beyond the right of any woman, anywhere, doing whatever she damn well pleases regardless of the consequences, no accountability. Women certainly have rights but what those are isn't defined by feminism. Like women objectifying themselves for profit.

[Albacorewing]

The strange thing is, feminists seem obsessed with porn. For the vast majority of males, porn is interesting when they first encounter it in their lives, but in a short time becomes boring. Politics, professional sports, and a vast number of other activities hold much more male interest. With men, porn will hold to this pattern all their lives, and this is why they spend much less money on it than on, say, sporting events.

[misOBGYNist]

Fat bitch sounds like she has a sandwich lodged in her throat. 

[rob16248]

She had a face like 200lbs of raw sausage meat in a large polythene bag. Her mind was fucked because her cunt wasn't. She was a mephitic misandrist who only ever flushed the toilet when she was disposing the body parts of some poor innocent bloke. The world is a lighter, brighter place without her. Smells better as well.

[OppressedAnarchist]

@rob16248 Your words are pure poetry !!! "face like 200 lbs of raw sausage"

beautiful and accurate !!!

[smwvikings44]

5:41-5:53. Does that go for homosexual men as well haha?

[embracingreality]

Unattractive women may, or may not, resent pornography as a result of being excluded from participating do to their lack of sexual attractiveness. Attractive women may, or may not, take the opportunity to participate in pornography do to their sexual attractiveness.

Why is it though that we rarely see attractive women who openly appose porn?

Incidentally I'm a man apposed to porn for a number of reasons not the least of which is that I won't be manipulated by the women who participate in porn.

[8thLifeable]

A BRILLIANT woman, incredibly brave, a genius. The idiocy of the misogynist comments here is plenty proof of everything she is saying.

[misOBGYNist]

@8thLifeable A total MORON much like yourself who spewed ideological, agenda driven nonsense. The world became worse off because of her, and is better off without her.

[eljagg01]

Hero.

[MichaelStepkoff]

I would marry a woman who looked like her but not talked like her.

[sardanapolis]

She should wear a niqab !

[reivenlocke]

"All penetration is rape" - Andrea Dworkin

Tells me all I need to know about her.

[hoboboxerjoe]

This woman is one of the most sexist people I've ever heard of. And not against men, against women! She literally makes it sound as if women do not have an iota of intelligence except for her and women like her who hate sex.

[ignoranttwat]

I only actually found out what Ms. Dworkin looked at by clicking on this video, and I must say that it made me LOL my face off.

[YoungEscapist]

What's wrong with fetishes or BDSM? Or women shaving their kitties? Why shouldn't amputees be able to get laid or make movies of it? Everyone knows that women are the "keepers" of sex in our culture. Men are not all pimps or 'jons' or rapists. You should ALWAYS question ANYONES' motives when they publicly denounce something.

This is really extreme stuff. PLENTY of women like porn. And I'm pretty sure it's illegal (most places) to film someone performing a sex act without their permission.

[tharemedybeats]

Gross

[kamikrazycanadian]

she just mad cuz she cant get sum

[porpsecose]

@kamikrazycanadian get out oF Here

[TAZEROXFORD]

@kamikrazycanadian your really gay

[satinbarbi]

What a pig she was.

[kaploon]

@satinbarbi

She still is :) !!

[intuaidumeda]

shit woman

[Shukria123]

The only porn Andrea Dworkin would in is porn of really, really fat chicks.

[Meex1989]

@Shukria123 Dude, I wouldn't fuck her if she were 200 pounds lighter, she would be UGLY.

[Shukria123]

Blacks are not responsible for what's going in Liberia? Then who is?

Ok, atrocities happen and have happened in Europe. But, yes, European nations are not just as bad as African nations. The difference is in Africa it never seems to end: the mayhem just goes on and on. At least World War II ended.

I only put forward my theory on blacks because Dworkin mentions blacks.

[ImNotYourFriend212]

You know, some women actually enjoy appearing in porn and watching it too, genuinely. I enjoy sex with both genders and don't consider it rape of any kind unless i say no. Also, yeah, I shave. Why? Mostly because it is comfortable for ME. If a guy or girl likes it too, fine, but I like what I like and can make my own decisions. Also I dont like that shes using us blacks in her "arguments". Trying to get sympathy from African Americans and Asians. Not gonna happen.

[carlosmontros534535]

I bet she was getting off on that description.

[BlacknWhitesAlright]

The ways she describes BDSM and kinky sex here are absolutely ridiculous.

[JoeJC]

She makes porn literally sound like the worst thing ever invented. If I had never watched porn before, I would feel absolutely nauseated by the whole idea. Why doesn't she deal with the fact that women voluntarily engage in pornography? Why doesn't she treat women like moral agents instead of children who are incapable of making responsible decisions?

[taniwha9]

she had a very serious mental illness

[hmcontractservices]

This is so gross.

[gabiotta]

Ladies and Gentlemen.... The female Bill Hicks.....

[redpillguru111]

no wonder tourist love coming here!

[Shukria123]

Blacks are trouble.

[ImNotYourFriend212]

@Shukria123 How? What did "blacks" do? Why are you baiting?

[Shukria123]

@ImNotYourFriend212 I've met people who've lived in Africa, and they have told me this: wherever blacks go, trouble goes with them. And I have found this to be true with at least some blacks I've met here in North America.

[ImNotYourFriend212]

@Shukria123 I think it has more to do with the fact that wherever blacks go, we are exploited badly, so of course we are always going to have problems in our lives. We all, whatever race have to take responsibility for ourselves, but I honestly believe that it is no coincidence that wherever blacks and whites, in particular co-exist, blacks seem to suffer badly without reason. Yes, we are no angels, but history shows this. Well, the history I was "taught".

[Shukria123]

@ImNotYourFriend212 Just search for 'Liberia" in Youtube; you'll see blacks in Africa hacking at each other with machetes, practicing cannibalism, etc.; they're haven't 'gone' anywhere to be exploited and they're still raising hell.

Andrea Dworkin mentions blacks in this video.

[ImNotYourFriend212]

@Shukria123 Yes, I understand and even though I strongly disagree with her view, the light in which she was mentioning blacks had nothing to do with what you're saying. Blacks are not responsible for this problem. And as if other countries with non black populations are not doing this. Are those nations just as bad as the African nations or do they get a pass? If so why? If no then why aren't they mentioned as frequently? J/w

[ImNotYourFriend212]

@Shukria123 Also, this video isn't even about black people so why are you saying that here?

[DazzledRose3193]

well the woman agrees to it, signs a contract, she makes it seem like men take advantage, women choose.

[mosfeld]

RIP Andrea Dworkin.

[Esett]

I don't know about you but i love pornography! Anyone saying anything else is big fat liar.

[Hostskulker]

Inspiring and infuriating. As a man who loves women and who has hated women for pleasure via pornography, I don't know whether I should smash my own head or a pimp's head or a whore's head. I am becomimg more angry about the pornographization of my society every day, and only the efforts of living activists such as Gail Dines and Co are keeping me sane. Whatever happened to real sexual exitement, mystery and respect?

[bruiseviolet22]

All this homophobia, violence and personal insults just reinforces everything Andrea says. Any one of any intelligence would at least be able to formulate a pro porn debate without having to use the words "Fat ugly lesbian". It just proves how ignorant you are.

[bruiseviolet22]

Omigosh u lot are dumb.

"the fact that she believes that snuff films actually exist is more than enough reason to write her off as a complete loony."

I work for rape crisis england - snuff films do exist. Fact.

" What the fuck is she talking about!?"

Why don't you do some research. Porn is deeply racist, the darker the skin, the more degrading the acts become.

"WHAT YOU NEED IS TO SUBMIT TO EUTHANASIA!"

She's been dead for years u numpty!

[fuckturks2223]

@bruiseviolet22 lol? andrea porkwing whas nothing else then a man hater

[MrGrevy]

@bruiseviolet22 Snuff films do not exist. There has never been any evidence of one existing. It's like satanic ritual abuse - it was a nonsensical hysteria promoted by stupid, uninformed people. If you have evidence of a snuff film, feel free to provide it.

[camljockykilla]

Andrea DWARFBRAIN,Do you have a young daughter??Idoubt it because I cant see aguy wanting you...but you never know,there are hard up guys out there!!NOW IF YOU DO,let camljockykilla BREAKHER IN FOR YOU!I GUARANTEE SHE WILL NEVER BE A DYKE AFTER IINITIATE HER!!

[camljockykilla]

look what an ugly FAT motherfucker is ANDREA DWORKIN!!Nobody ever wanted you to spread ANYTHING!!WHAT YOU NEED IS TO SUBMIT TO EUTHANASIA!WHY?Because youre fat and ugly!!

[REALCougarsRmales]

"women women women women women women women women". Women are not the only people in porn and males arent the only people producing, directing it and profiting from it. And males arent the only people watching it. Radical feminists always sweep the sins of women under rugs and focus entirely on males. Thats as sexist as the sexists they whine about.

[unshutoptic1]

People have the right to be sexual in any way they seem fit. The only debate is whether it is consensual...or not.

I wonder how she feels about the infamous video..."2 girls, 1 cup"?

[AmericanBadass44]

"Black skin is presented as if it is a female genital"

What the fuck is she talking about!?

[AmericanBadass44]

The attorney general's probably like "Holy shit am I really listening to this?"

[AmericanBadass44]

Fat lesbian

[WatcherAzazel]

...the fact that she believes that snuff films actually exist is more than enough reason to write her off as a complete loony. Talking about snuff films in a debate over pornography is the equivalent of bringing up Santa Clause in a discussion about redistribution of wealth.

[donnyab]

and GET WELL FUCKIN PAID FOR IT WITH THEIR FUCKING CONSENT !!!!!!!!

[MrGrevy]

Why in GOD'S name would anyone listen to this moonbat?? ""Intercourse is the pure, sterile, formal expression of men's contempt for women," -Unbelievable stupidity.

[SuperSparkyMark1]

WTF? She is crazy. Snuff movies aren't legal! She's got a warped view of the world of porn.

[BohemianBlasphemy]

Shut up, you bitter bitch!

[spots2012]

she mentions more than once that films of rape are protected speech - is this true? If so there must be some kind of reference for this.

[HerrSpieldose]

well, what does gay porn have to do with women??? nothing...

[pablofazzi]

Wow. This lady sure has watched loads of porn! She must like it! I had no idea there were so many flavors. This poor person has no chance to appear in an erotic clip...not even the trailer park amateur kind so she (he?) is showing her frustration. It is ok. we understand... with a macro lens you may be able to capture more whiskers. Did she really kick the bucket choking on a sandwich? Was she eating the sandwich while watching porn? Who chose this photo? She resembles an inflated doll.

[MiaoPurrington]

@pablofazzi Please don't trivialize the subject. I don't like hardcore porn and most people are naive to the harrowing effects of it. Just because she's fat and angry does lessen the impact of her words or stance. Her descriptions are up front an necessary and I do not detect any pleasure from her reading these atrocities.

[pablofazzi]

@MiaoPurrington well hard core porn has it's market and it's work force. the people appearing in those flicks have signed up to do those things. you don't have to watch it if you don't want to. i don't watch car racing but does that give me the right to shout out that it should be criminalized because here and there people get hurt taking part in it? NO.

[pablofazzi]

@MiaoPurrington

the porn industry in north america and western europe is legit. noone is forced. and what about the men who are urinated on? is urinating on a man different in nature?

and about this lady, dworkin. she is not just fat and angry...nono. that would be an understatement. she was an absolute sick psychopath. these are her lines:

"I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig."

[MiaoPurrington]

@pablofazzi I over-all didn't like her approach towards men. But it's understandable why she would say that because of the history of violence she experienced with men. But on this issue I agree with the notion that viewing any porn is not going to clue you in on sexual realities. It is a dangerous fantasy world and even worse it's been shone in a country that refuses to have a frank dialog about sex, yet it continues to become hyper-sexualized. I'm tired of it. I promote asexuality

[MrGrevy]

@MiaoPurrington LOL please cite a study that shows anything harmful about porn. I bet you're one of the "Video games cause violence" wackos as well.

[MiaoPurrington]

@MrGrevy

You can google it. Its not hard.

[MrGrevy]

@MiaoPurrington Not talking about google searches, I mean academic articles. Peer reviewed sources. You went to college right? There are none.

[MiaoPurrington]

@MrGrevy I have found a lot of academic articles, I want to posts the links here but regrettably I couldn't. You should consider respecting the fact that people have different views from you. Pornography is apart of our society and variations of it will continue to pop up, but there is no real edification that can come of pornography. It is only for entertainment value, but avid viewers fail to see that;sadly try to swap reality with illusion. Not much of porn seems particularly "freeing" to me.

[MrGrevy]

@MiaoPurrington You can send them as a private message ( I know you don't have any). Ever hear of the Kinsey institute? You're just not very educated on the subject. Bizarre.

[chorizo1337]

So according to radical feminists like her, horror films would be immoral because women get killed in the movies, and only men should be killed?

[cinemaman3105]

Jesus. Now we know who's been watching all those porno films: Andrea Dworkin! lol

[pddeeps]

What's wrong with Hurley's voice and why is he freaking out in porn all of a sudden and WTF kind of porn did he watch? it sounds messed up......sounds like it messed him up real good too......

[thetruth3574]

Wow, Andrea Dworkin. The Quasimodo of anti-porn crusaders. Choked to death on a ham sandwich. RIP.

[bobbygnosis]

Pornography as a civil rights violation against women. The woman accepting payment for sexual acts is an individual not a category. She personally accepts payment. It goes to her and not anyone else. She is liable not anyone else. The person paying her is personally paying her and not anyone else. He / she acts as an individual and pays her personally. One payer - one recipient.

I think prostitution is lame, but its their business. Not mine. Dworkin is lame.

Peace and love for all.

[superotter77]

brilliant warrior woman!

[tothatextent]

Fuck, was she ever a fat ugly bitch. She looks like an uglier version of Gene Simmons, and I didn't think that was possible. Maybe if someone would have thrown the fat fuck a couple of Ding Dongs and a Milkbone once in a while, she would not have been the miserable cunt that she became. I hope there is a Dairy Queen in Hell, because this bitch will need something cold to kill some of that ugly she has.

[LeadRat]

I don't understand how many women think porn degrading. Women actresses are paid much more than men. My sisters think women inherently make less then men? about 60% of college grads are women. To want equality is one thing, but women in the workplace make men uncomfortable because of potential sexual harassment issues. I have seen false claims of sexual harassment with no punishment for the lying woman. If there is to be equality, then ask a man out and don't steal half his shit in a divorce

[LeadRat]

"The true test of one's commitment to liberty and private property rights doesn't come when we permit people to be free to do those voluntary things with which we agree. The true test comes when we permit people to be free to do those voluntary things with which we disagree." Walter E. Williams

[meshzzizk]

@LeadRat But her argument isn't that women should not be allowed to have sex on camera. It is that women who are coerced into pornographic performance should have some claim and control over the distribution of the materials made from her humiliation.

[LeadRat]

@meshzzizk

good point.

[911insidejo8]

@meshzz....that's not what I'm hearing.

She blurs the lines between coersive sex and consentual as if that line barely matters when the reality that line divides night and day.

Women being raped and murdered on film are the victims of crime because it is not consentual. Women choosing to permit the filming of them being fucked is a matter of personal liberty, it isn't the same. And then she classifies all porn as rape and that is a careless use of language that is deliberately deceptive.

[LeadRat]

@meshzzizk

what u describe is a crime. totally separate from a woman who chooses to do graphic nudity with gratuitous sex. a woman actress in the porn industry who works out, eats healthy, uses condoms, etc. is a strong woman with business shrewdness. Many men desire that status, but the industry is unfair to men. Women get more perks then men in the porn film industry. Should men argue gender based discrimination? because that is what it looks like to me.

[andrelebaron]

she kind of looks like a Dworkin.