The cruithne were the founders of Ireland. They were working the land, had their own kingdoms and kings at least a thousand years before the gaels arrived there and they were there still when Columba brought Christianity..they may have been very similar to the Scottish picts.Their decendants can still be traced in Ireland.
Also it was a cultural takeover by the wealthy elite that led to the decline of the Picts. Due to internal strife a v young Pictish prince had to flee to relations in Dal Riada leaving Pictland in the hands of a usurper Gael and he was raised as a Gael so when he returned he continued the Gaelic influence. The people stayed the same but gradually adopted a new language, much like the decline of Scots and the rise of Scottish English when the royal court was moved to London.
'Cruithne' was what the ancient Irish called the people of Scotland, it meant "tribe of the designs" in reference to the early Scots blue tattoos they wore in battle.
"The Basques are the original cro-magnons...they are as close to being a totally separate species of homo-sapien as we have in the world! They have a totally unique blood type..(Rhesus Negative (-)....(found in only ~1% of the worlds population).....and unique bone structure...that show them to be the direct descendents of the original cro-magnons!" This was said by an unbiased biologist
@ThePoptart1966 the picts are most likely in majority persons who decended from an early migration after the glacial smelting and very much identical to persons from iberia, they later had celtic culture (its not a race, and do not listen to any nazi who wants to tell you so).
@000000AEA000000 PIECE of shit we are most definity a race THE BASTERD SPEAKING IS THE NAZI PICTS ARE CELTS that melting you speak is the hyborian migration fool NOT a race that is why the icelanders and greenlanders call them the pure one TRASH TALKING NAZI SCUM
It is clear that Germans messed up entire history just to make themselves seem important. Whatever they did with Serbs in Helm (now called Balkans) they did with you guys too. In past few centuries they created 5 more nations in Helm and despite that Serbs keep drinking, dancing and having fun. Learn from our mistakes.
IDIOT there is no PRECELT there celts are decendants of ENOCH or atlantis this is hyperborian FACT as is the blood lines of the ancient indo-european kings ,france germany all the way to the black sea where celt people of the river danube romans killed them all basq and BRETON not with an i but an E are celts the ogholm script you display comes from our line of kings , FENIUS FARSAID son NEL son GAEDEL GLAS they are newer children of NOAH our root being before noah through SETH you know nothing!
I am interested only in science, archaeology with all its forms of analysis which it carbon 14, spectrographie, genetics................. result does not admit you it is facts and you can compare nothing to it..
@polarisreseau WELL we do know for sure that carbon 14 is an inaccurate form of testing for dateing.Also it is quite unture that there is no proof their is archaeological proof of entire danube,Hallstst and le tane. Aswell their are mounds of genetics that can help proove such as that fact that we know KING TUT was of atlantian stock and has R1B dna, or from the 7000 year remains in scottland PREFLOOD , how about the 15,000 year old ogholm and runic carvings found in the americas
@polarisreseau ALSO the facts that the mu connection through the uyghur, AYNU and jomon have turned up many celtic cloths as well as mumified remains and who could forget the 6000 year old WHITE mummies of china with brightly woven celtic cloth or that the mesoamerican who are geniticly proven to be the closest related to japanese through mu by the aynu, joman,uyghur these mesoamerican say they where tought by white indians that where yellow and red haired giants HYPERBORIAN celt\norse wow
@dagnab1 wrong... totally wrong... the R1b does not originate in Ireland my lunatic lad, you should really get help on your syndroms mate... its never too late for you to heal... a bit...
@000000AEA000000 YOU are a fucking foll look up r1b dumb ass where is it the most dense you your self fool said western celtic r1b and dont even see that you contradict your self,AS for hyborian barbarian shit sounds like somethin a roman buttfucker would say FOOL of couse the germans are latinized that why the fucking pope was a nazi youth for hitler but im shure your unaware of that becouse you are UNAWARE OF MUCH now piss off
@dagnab1 ohmg you are so great. You make me smile so much my
if you can read, you will see that R1b originates NOT in Ireland at all my american friend. I know its hard for you, for people who restrain on swearing in every fifth word are utterly stupid, and you have a more personal insight in this topic; you would realise that it got preserved rather well because Ireland is an ISLAND widely ignored by further population influx. Read up R1b or die together with your conspiracy theory shit ;-)
@000000AEA000000 You are agin a doumbass r1b is the dencest in ireland not originate it originate with hyborians weather you like it or not fool it is facts ,Aslo fact is the not so long ago island of hybrasil witch can still be seen it was part of atlantian culture ,I know well where r1b comes from and why its royal blood ,if you will remember conan was a cimmerian he was A CELT ,if you are a greek buff then you should know their first thoelogy knowage came from mielsian druidic people CELTS ha
@dagnab1 no, I am saying that as an Austrian, and you should bow in front of me, for an Austrian is Da Kiiiwng of da Hyboriahns! And I smasch you if you do not ffanisch and buy yourselfe a buuk!
and you can not take a fu*** hint *giggles* I translate it again for you...... hiuuu are a barbaariaaaan, because you talk about conan the barbarian, when you mean Ireland........ old greek mythology and conan the barbarian do not make a good history knowledge ;-) (although I am personally a greek mythology freak, so to speak, but I do not mix THAT with drugs and history, which I would recommend you aswell.)
@polarisreseau fenius farsaid is a very uniqe person he will open a door to much other information and connections to the IE root toungs he is how i found out that proto celtic is basicly the IE indo-aryan toung also san scritt has connections to celtic toungs and the indo\aryans where there aswell look into thoses connections you should be able to find alot of info hope that helps, by
@dagnab1 can u hit me up with some sites pertaining 2 these subjects. you appear knowlegable in many of the topics I find very intresting. looks like u retain and organize your fact finding appropiately. thanx
PS: Little hint: Celtic=culture, so pre-celt always exists.
But hoot to the conspiracy stuff... I liked the talk about atlantis and enoch and noah and the killing of all... your mind is a... well... somebody else must name it.
@000000AEA000000 you changed your name and think you slick ,Any piece of trash who could deny the violation of my people will get their curse, Now yes fool rome did create germany that is why the old norse toung is latinized Clown, Yes DUMB ass angles are from friesland you dumb shit 4 tribes came over on a papul bull (JUTS,WARNS,ANGLES,SAXONS) weahter you like it or not they are from friesland the fact that old english is german as FUCK SHOULD BE A HINT,finaly your soul &mind is that of a FOOL
@dagnab1 hahahaaaaa... yes yes, I got through your brainwank, but you did not answer my question. So these germanic invaders you call out, if the germans are roman, then they are aswell, no? *grins*. So your "old english" you talk of... is actually a roman tongue, like all of germans', right? *grins* please... PLEAAASE ANSWER *lol*
@000000AEA000000 doumb ass i dint say germans where the romans BUT yes very romanized how elese is the supposed nordic toung latinized clown , old english is a german toung look into it FOOL, you speak and know nothing the same iberian celts you speak of are the family of the picts,PREFLOOD the pictish wilderness was the tip of the iberian peninsula
@dagnab1 *giggles* You clearly said that the romans killed the native populations of france and germany and afterwardst bread and romanized your brains away. And no, I am sorry... german is not at all romanized, if you mean high-german, then the grammer is oriented on latin, so the tribes were able to create a language to talk to eachother. this started already with Karl getting scholars who spoke latin on his court. These people were invited, and did come as humble servants- his favourite irish
@000000AEA000000 Stupid fuck the island of hybrasil is right there off ireland it was above water not long ago,noah's ark is found by ron whyatt in turky dipshit,AND agin acting like my people werent killed you are a no nothing know it all who is uneducated and a hypocritical fool and yes the salutrian or white indian yes they always where since first man why do think every where the indo-aryan or atlantians where there is celtic cloth, dna, toung, king tut has irish dna cross of thoth celtic ?
@dagnab1 hold back your accusations of name change and so on... and hold down the swearing a bit you hyborian giant you... please, do not frighten me little roman... And talk a bit of sense if you want me to take you honest, ok?.
I only went on this link to hear some Celtic music and found this absolute nutter ranting on about an argument for "my people" this and invaders/Romans/Angles that...
Amazing response!
It seems like he is battling with a few people that dare to call his sanity into question.
@earlydoorsjones EARLYDOORBITCH its all abot you go to hell,and if you vile cancerus theiving tribe haddent started the problems there, then their wouldent be any .since Jones is english and your a dickhead butting in for no reason then it could be assumed you understand where fault lies and can take your BOGSAVAGE ass back to FRIESLAND ............ and remeber piss off
@dagnab1 And aswell if you are claiming to be welsh and turning on a fellow gael for some sorry angle then utterly FUCK YOU kill your self you are of no loyality to you own tribes what so ever
@R0611994 no dumbass i had more to say its the second part fool hence the ASWEE at the beginning but since you are a fucking troll baby its pretty hard for you to get it
@dagnab1 well it was just pretty funny to read it and then look at who it is directed to. HAHA. Thank u for the good laugh. Also thank u for bring me to this song i love it, they truly say that all bad there is a good
I have been reading posts with your name on. I am not the only one with whom you refuse to have a rational dialogue with am I. Mind you, when a person introduces "Enoch" to a discussion, its going to be difficult.
Count the number of people you have told to f""c off - how many people can one person swear at before they start to question themselves? The funny thing is, I don't think you are there yet.
Oh yes, please use full stops. The Romans did not invent them.
@dagnab1 Can you keep writing please, this has become the best laugh I've had since watching Bill Hicks on DVD. This bit was the best "...and remember piss off". Oh yes, "tribe" should be a plural, as in "tribes".
If you do choose to continue our correspondence, I can teach you to profane in Welsh if you like - I take it you hate the English language, so something more Brythonic would be more suitable for you???
Obviously English is not your first language, but please try using full stops.
@earlydoorsjones NO bitch i wont use full stopsNow im going to do it to be an ass and you can tell your satanic rosicrution friend Francis Bacon thank you for your shit holr anglish toung or didnt you know a frence satan worshiper invented your language fagget as for how many i told to fuck off as many as have jumped into an argument that wasent thiers now as before ,I truly hope you kill yourself
@dagnab1 it is on utube u know it everybody arguement if they see a wrong they jump, its not a private chat, u are post ur arugement to the world. (Just thought u should know that, that all)
@R0611994 SO the fuck what ' ' its a pulic forum ' ' shut the goddamn hell up fool no one cares what you little self rightous mommas boy's have to say stay jaking off to you computer pussy and fucking close your shitty trap. Oh just thought id speak like im from your side of the pond maby it pleases you more, I know how all you realy understand is profanity so i thiught this would help hahahaha
@dagnab1 well from u i know only profanity, it would stun me if u would to use more though out and process word (but that is too hard for a closeminded idiot like u). I only told u that it was a public forum because of ur qoute "i told to fuck off as many as have jumped into an argument that wasent thiers now as before" because this well never happen due to the (here is the punch line) ITS A PUBIC FORUM hahaha
@R0611994 WELL to a trouble maker or dickheads its a punch line to funny joke, Here's the thing you never had a point to argue from the things i pointed out in history happened there is plenty of proof, the attitudes comming at me are the one in the wrong like your , And wont get to prove any points as before you are now SPAM hahahaha
@dagnab1 I'm impressed u used less swears, wow. I'm really stunned. Also i was never adding a point to aruge i was just stating they are to different things, reading back on the comment that started it, it was only to just make sure u knew it was an pubic forum so pretty much everyone can jump in that all. Thank u for using very little swears, it just makes it easier to see ur points.
Lesson 1: "Ast" is Welsh for bitch - you use that word a lot, and you can now use the pre-Roman guilt free version with all the other people that you are in "dialogue" with.
The more often you use it, the more people will feel intimidated, scared and ultimately come round you your argument. Its a win-win!
That is what a rational discussion is...when two people have a difference of opinion, the one who says bitch ("ast") the most wins!
@earlydoorsjones I see you have a solid theroy i would like to know more your physics are very interesting clearly a cut abouve the standard mathimatical formuli i would love to see the application of these theroies please let me know how they work........... yours truly DAGNAB president of the AST society hahahahahaa
@earlydoorsjones ok well douche is a little messy being an organic hygene item, How ever the end your self comment also can sound harsh unless... you consider a celtic person attacing another celtic person in defence of an angle would be a pinicle of disloyalty ,dishonor, selfworth .SO i guess the whole mean comment would depend on weather some one is proud to be a celt and could care about what happened to you fellow celtic people OR be a dick and side with angles .I guess the future will tell
@polarisreseau the Swabians of the former Germany Swabia, this Nippur for more information was Erwin Rommel. in 416 settled about 350,000 and 80,000 fighters, perhaps at that time Gaelic was spoken in Galica before there were the Celts are Celtic crosses Arquelogicas dolmens excavations of these cities you can find in Celtic Ireland in the rest of Spain, tribes of central Europe, the Visigoths about 450,000, but two Alans and Others
@1elgalle1 THEY DONT realize that celts and norse are hyborian ido-aryan and that rome created germany the first people of that land where and still are CELTIC
@celtic4ever18 NO i am not the ( friesian ignwzones) Juts Warn Angels Saxons giving bull order from rome to come to the isles of the celts english culture goes right through friesland into thier germanic norse herritage descendants of FREYR witch is where you get all of your damned ENG and ING prefixes becouse the Eng ING is of FREYR thats why its called ingland,england later and why the damn tribe is called Angels there is no fucking way you can call your self celtic or english and not know
@dagnab1 well im an english man with ancestry on northumberland and north east of england and i have some irish blood in me on my grandmother side and i tell ye that i dont look germanic i look british briton i have wavy curly brown reddish hair blue eyes small wide bridge flat nose and short height im not germanic looking at all i look british i must descend from the brigantes and parisi
@celtic4ever18 well we are a little more related through the norse side of english herritage its just the dissagreements and the way rome put us at each other that has coused a lot of pain on a larger family level of the tribes
@dagnab1 i suppose i look irish briton due to my irish blood on grandmother side you wanna have an idea how i look like then im like the handsome version of colm meaney with round jaw and same wavy curly hair
@celtic4ever18 not true they come from friesland and this is provable by DNA aswell as history and culture it fact guy breton are celts that have been forceable mixed it is fact please dont remind us of this lets move forward you know the english are germanic and you dont come from this land respect the herritage of your irish relative and examine more closley the truth plese , respectlyfuly Dagnab
@celtic4ever18 well first Thank you very much for respecting our cultures and for an aspect of healing our tribes i would like to say that rome's involvment is where the disagreements between Celts and some germanic & anglo saxon tribes began . I truly belive that in looking more to our nonroman side of history is a way that the celtic and other tribes can reconcile former problem at one time celtic and norse culture where not seprate this is Romes influence in germany we can HEAL OUR TRIBES
@dagnab1 .Actually dna has shown otherwise. Yes, there is considerable Saxon/Norse input but nowhere near the 100% we were once lead to believe (for political reasons.) At most in the east you get between 50-90% Germanic-this area may have been depleted of people due to plague before the Saxons arrived. in the west most people are 'celtic' (prehistoric) ancestry. Over 80% of Cornishmen cluster with the Welsh and these types are high in all western England.
@sonofherne NO not do to pluage but murder and yes man the angle saxons where brought in there by rome FROM FRIESLAND the cornish and welsh cluster becouse they dont want to mix
@sonofherne I do not know any test that shows a majority of germanic people in the east of england at all, there is almost no continental I haplogroup (as pointed out by oppenheimer) and the test of univ. college london was a fraud, for they were testing on entirely old danish settled regions only, while cutting out whole junks of testing areas. As you say, most historians say guesses like you did, and I agree, for I do not think that english persons look like danes or germans at all.
@dagnab1yes dagnab but not all of them look germanic due that many irish moved to england for work and that made them a germanic celtic mix and theres a lot more black and brown hair in england than blonde
@celtic4ever18 your a little too focased on looks man the ancient ido-aryans where know to have brown blonde or red hair both wavy and curly aswell as strait and had brown, green and blue eyes this is from multiple sources that met them .Period realize that the germanics are not the first they dont belong here they fucking lie about history and us we ARE SICK WE ARE TAKING BACK OUR LAND HERRITAGE AND OUR GODDDAMN PRIDE angles english germans better get the fuck out of the way or help rebuild !
@dagnab1 well said dagnab you speak like a true celt briton cheers say what you want but deep in your soul you know the english are a mixture of celts britons and germanics warriors
@celtic4ever18 deep in my soul i know that BRETONS are celts just like irish and scott WHY CANT YOU GET THE FACT YOU ARE MIXED WITH US AND WE DONT LIKE IT GET IN YOUR FUCKING HEAD GO BACK TO FRIESLAND WE ARE TAKING BACK OUR ISLES i dont care if you go to germani friesland . i know nothing in my soul but we hate YOU the angle are the most goddless thieving lying stealing murding disrespectful whitebetreying roman sympothizing cancer that mother tara has ever looked at that is my SOUL
@dagnab1 i apologize dagnab with all the respect of course the english ARE GERMANIC theres DNA evidence of aparthaid system and it worked but in my case i have Irish blood on grandmother side so that makes me GERMANIC AND BRITON CELTIC a mixture i would call that AngloCeltic i respect both nations the germanic and the celtic you see im lucky my ancestors are both germanics and celts britons i have angle viking and gael genes and im very proud of my heritage
@earlydoorsjones Mindless idiot 2000 years ago my people are not free now dumbass our children get shot in the head with rubber bullets and killed the damn english still keep controll of the nation and the money we are one of the poorest nations in europe and one of the oldest this is becouse ours has been taken 200 years ago TRY RIGHT NOW FOOL FUCK YOU AND SHUT YOUR GODDAMN MOUTH TO ME , like an angle you deny becouse of your responsability
@dagnab1 Hi dagnab. Being as you don't communicate in English, neither will I.
Pam ydych chi'n meddwl wyf yn Saesneg? My language - what's yours?
Oh, I thought the mindless idiot insult was almost as overly dramatic as the plastic bullets guilt trip. You don't need any Romans, or Angles, or Saxons, or English to kill your people. The last time I read the news, 'your' people were capable of killing each other very well. Cut the crap.
Seek psychological help if you intend having children.
@dagnab1 hahahahaha I actually read that. You call the "germani friesland" roman ''sympothizing''....... duuuuuuuuuuude. Your soul is a messy place..... all the killing, population changing, swearing... You are american, you have nothing to do with this anymore anyway............ cool down.
@dagnab1 just so I understand you... you say there are no germans, for they are all roman... but after the roman empire declined and pulled back(not that they were in the area you talk about anyway) and the "english" came to britain... the "Engllish" as you call them... are still german? or are they romans? You are mighty hard to look through... lol
@dagnab1 .Do you really believe every English person is saxon? That they killed everyone when outnumbered nearly 10 to 1? (Where are the remains??)When some people still spoke celtic languages in Wiltshire,Devon and Cumbria till the 12th c? When Saxons' own accounts actually speak of British people having settlements amongst them? When 'saxon' leaders like Cerdic had CELTIC names?
@sonofherne no i aslo told you they are the other 3 tribes that make up what you call the ingwaz tribale group ( angles,saxons,juts,warns) THE ENGLISH from friesland ing or eng is the term for the norse god freyr that is the true root of the english they where nore before the roman influence JUST FACTS GUY SORRY FOR YOU
@sonofherne being out numbered didnt help when the celts where never unified and your english culture knew and exploited the shit out of it the bodies are everwhere JERK how did uther and his father die , or maby we should distroy london bridge to get williams head of course there where germanics with celtic influenice becouse the celts lived and existed in those lands first . The icelanders found celts there when they got there, aslo in greenland the same. the first people in most of europe
That's a tricky subject it depends on what you mean by English, the nationals of the entire modern country or the root of the name. Similar is the confusion with the Scots 'The Scots came from Ireland' which is a phrase which irks alot of people. Scots being the name given to the Gaels but the modern Scots is mostly Picto-Gael.
The Picts make up the vast majority of the people of Scotlands ethnic background back but you can't denie the Gaels (The Scotti) Had no influence, no way would the Picts subside to a small number of Gaels and use their language and elements of their culture for no reason. There where also Picts in Ireland before the Gaels came. The six sodhains where the last Pictish dynesty in Ireland.
@Cybopath Interesting, I've had a few Irish or 'Irish-Americans' (No harm intended by the Plastic Paddie word lol, in fact some embrace it, it's just because Americans obviously have a larger population, they will reach more by word of mouth on places like Youtube) - as they call themselves claim that their are no Pictish settlement in Ireland.
I've never heard of the 'The Six Sohains' before, do you know which part of Ireland they inhabited?
@Cybopath Having looked at the latest work from Stuart McHardy's "A new history of the Picts", he re-states that there is no evidence that a tribe came from Ireland, in fact, the other way around,, that Dál Riata was already indigenous to Scotland and they set up over seas trade routes in Antrim (Ulster, N.Ireland).
Brian Sykes claims that the label OGAP4 is the quintessential Scottish haplotype code for Picts, and claims it to be "ubiquitous across all areas of Scotland".
@Cybopath It's stated that if the Irish tribes to Dál Riata were not overstated as fact then there should be a sign of mass immigration from Ireland to Scotland in archaeological record as there were for every other large scale migrations through time, but there is none.
If it was a small élite takeover by a war band, who must have adopted local material culture and settlement forms, there should be signs of the language of the indigenous majority in the place names, but again there is none.
@Cybopath Some sources also claim the term 'Scotti' is derived from the ancient Greek word 'Skoto' (Darkland), and the Greeks knew of the Picts/Scots long before the Romans did, then the Romans Latinised 'Skoto' to 'Scotti' and re-defined it to mean 'speakers of non-Latin'.
Then also that 'Scotti' was later Anglicised to 'Scottish', possibly re-defined to Pirate, Predator or/and Raider, also note, several Roman records talk of the Caledonian Picts love to 'plunder'.
@Cybopath You're right, Caledonian Picts wouldn't back down to a foreign power (if they were foreign), having just resisted an entire empire that stretched across much of Europe in the west, centre and N.Africa after several centuries.
Dál Riata being roughly 1/4 the size of Caledonian Pict territory, it seems impossible, I don't doubt though religious influence from that direction but a total take over would be impossible, they were likely related to Picts, but under a different constitution.
I assume that the Picts and the Gaels had some common Celtic ground or perhaps more (We're not Anglo-Saxons) Plus the fact Pictish society rulers where passed maternally rather than paternally so one person of both backgrounds could attain both thrones and unite the peoples of Alba. It was howver ironicly a Pictish Prince (Raised in an Irish kingdom) who embrased the Gaelic tongue and spread it through his kingdom.
it is in effect unrealistic, in fact it is about the wave of plague existent of the culture of Halstatt in Austria, basques also come from this migration and kept a language which they nickname metallic language.
The group was called L176.2 (Basque, welsh, English, Bavarian) and his cousin L21 (Irish, Scotsman, Bavarian...)
BLACK IRISH AND SCOTS The people, jokingly called the Black Irish, have dark hair and eyes, wedge-shaped faces and look like Berbers and Basques. Their blood type proves that Berbers and Basques were originally closely related people, as many of them have Rh-negative blood. They are likely the descendants of the first settlers to Ireland and Scotland. This type of people is especially common in Conamara and Donegal of Ireland and on the Outer Hebrides of Scotland.
I know the Basque country well and I had never seen that basques were dark and berber but very similar in Bretons of France and very different from other Spanishes I determined all over their physical appearance and their culture.
And basques are from the same genetic group R-M167 as English, Bretons and Welshmen.
"The highest percentage is found among some of the tribes still living in the Atlas Mountains of Morocco (40%). The next highest are the Basques, reported in different publications as having 25 and 32%, depending on location. The people of northwest Ireland, the Highland Scots and the western islanders of Norway all have between 16 and 25%, while the Lapps of Norway and Finland have between 5 and 7%."
The rhesus negative gene is recessive compared to the positive like red hair genetics and it doesn't take well to being mixed with rh+ blood types esepecially in the maternal/female ancestory lineage.
@DroidNoid .Absolutely. These early migrations of the neolithic,which were among the largest and most influential in history, should be looked to as the source of most ancestry not putatative celtic invasions(with no archaeology or genetics to support it) and especially not later invasions.
@polarisreseau .Curious though...who do you then think the Stonehenge and other British/Irish megalith builders were? We know by their bones they were a slight,long headed Mediterranean type of people, and by their gravegoods/monuments we know they had strong connections to the Atlantic seaboard, particularly Brittany but also Spain.
@Sociolog26 .For many years people though the celts arrived in Britain in about 500 BC from central Europe. Now it's known there were no such invasions. The celtic Iron Age gew up from the bronze age before it. The earlier people pre or proto celts are both the megalith builders of the area, with affinities to the Atlantic seaboard, not central Europe. And our direct ancestors.
@sonofherne I have studied this analogy and most of it makes sense. The only thing that has me wondering how accurate it is, is the fact that rural people in East Yorkshire, Lincolnshire & East Anglia have such a high predominance of blonde hair even today. Yet according to Oppenheimer no part of the British Isle has more than 80% of Central European or Scandinavian dna anywhere. Still on the fence, but always welcome new evidence or explanation.
difference of shade between Basque R1b and R1b Ecossais not much differs and effect UV is and acquires in some generations it would seem and are the fact of physical adaptation and are characteristics minor as brachycephalic, in effect the old Basque graveyard of 1500 years reveals that they were before more dolichocephalic before for exactly the same DNA.
Obviously, the Celts of the culture of Halstatt (culture of iron) arrive in Great Britain in about 500 BC, their descendants are the Basque, welsh, Irish, Scotsman, English, Breton, and partly Catalan, gascons, Dutch... They broadly contributed to construct modern Europe with the England, France, Spain, Holland-Belgium.
The name "Kelt" was given by the Romans and Greeks, for tribes of people that became native to Austria and the Rhine. These tribes spoke a Celtic language similar to Gaelic Cornish and Breton etc. I think these groups of continental people were responsible for the Hallstatt culture. They were called simply called that "Celts" and they spoke "only" a Celtic language.
@polarisreseau I was just going to answer you're comment ,but you have removed it. Most Genetics have been telling us, that true Celts only gave minor Genetics. If what you say is correct, then they are all descended from the same groups of people. And yet the Celts were speaking a "non Basque" language.
@MultiTangle .celtic languages were spoken in huge swathes of Europe, especially the west, from about 2500 BC. It was in this area they probably arrived in Britain/Ireland, with the arrival of bronze age metal prospectors. The Hallstatt people don't seem to have a very close genetic resemblance to,say, the irish. Iberians, however, do.
Iit is about existent M176.2 of the culture of Halstatt at the origin of Gallo-British man (Basque, English, welsh) and of Gaelic (Irish Scotsman, Bavarian)
to begin language intervenes not much in culture, you can change language without changing culture or religion, we determine it in Europe with immigration, and it explains why iralndais, English, Bretons, Basque and welsh have the same culture with languages different as had already determined it caesar Julius, 2000 years old before us.
@polarisreseau in Galicia there Breton, brion, brigs .. the crosses on all the roads and in Brittany, in the Basque country there is nothing about it or Celtic crosses, in Galicia we have a few .. not to come this video if you have nad to do with these Celtic regions Galicia is its flag in the region of Celtic communities, plus national gegrafic in Asturias and Galicia and goes north of portugal .. the episode is called the realm celt, do not believe these independet Basque
This guy might be taking into account, that the Cornish are English. Many Cornish people class themselves as being Celtic Cornish and brythonic.
I am not saying that the Basques do not share ancestry with these groups, but Basques are not Celts. They have never spoken a Celtic language or participated in Celtic culture.
there is not or not enough difference cultural or religious or dress or musical between basque-Breton, English and welsh, but these people speak 3 very different languages among which 2 IE and one one hard suspected of the being also. But they remain very close to their Gaelic cousins (Scottish, Irish, Bavarian)
@polarisreseau There are similarities with the Celtic culture. Somewhere back in time they might of shared the same Ancestors, but i cannot understand how the Brits are descended from basques.
@MultiTangle The whole "descent from Basques" is more theory than fact, and what do you mean "Brits"?
You mean the Welsh Britons? because if you mean the modern term of "Brits" that can apply to 4 separate different peoples today, as Britain is just a current union state of 3 nations and a term of citizenship of 4 nations.
@Englanistan When i said Brits, it applied to all the British. I came across a new video on YT where six British people in England took part in reliable DNA tests, and their genetics were traced to the middle east.
I have been reading that updates have shown that most of the people in the Isles DNA is from the middle east and the Balkans.
After all, how do we know who is descended from who? maybe the Basques are descended from Irish.
@MultiTangle That's why I don't believe ancestry makes you who you are, it's just too irrelevant to judge you as blood lines change all the time, especially in the new world.
@MultiTangle .the mountains of Spain were the refuge for people during the Ice age. After the ice melted they spread down the western coast and walked straight into Britain/Ireland. Later, the (neolithic/bronze age)coastal route from Iberia up towards Norway was the great trade route of its age. one of the earliest pieces of metal C2400 bc) in Britain came from Spain. It makes more sense that people came to Britain from the Spanish refugium rather than the more distant Ukrainian one.
@polarisreseau Scots descend from the native Caledonian Picts of old Scotland (Alba).
They are not Irish as proved with the OGAP4 genetic haplotype Pictish code which is distinct from Irish, even the Irish called the Ulster tribe the same as what they called all of Scotland at the time "Cruithne" - old Irish for "tribe of the designs".
@MultiTangle And yes, not many people know that about the Scots, that they still retain their original descent in blood by majority from the Caledonian Picts of old Scotlad (Alba).
There's a hell of a lot of ignorant people on youtube who just comment on things with out researching it correctly before hand, that ignorance spreads on to the clueless, and then you have another generation of ignorant people who repeat the process over.
I do not understand if he speaks about IE of the group R1b (Basque, welsh) or of aborigine of the group I2b (iberian, ancient britton) which represent only about 15 % of basques or British men. But I think that he blends the I group and R1b.
@MultiTangle . Yes,correct, they are not celts but are genetically related to the people we call celtic today. And tbh the people of Britain and Ireland never called themselves 'celts' till the 1700's either. The Romans didn't refer to them as such. Culture or language does not denote ethnicity--otherwise you'd think every English speaking country was 'Anglo-Saxon'. However,even many English people are not genetically Anglo-Saxon but also have 'celtic' ancestry.
now sayin basque was the 1st language spoken on earth sounds like i am pullin ur leg cos we werent taught this at school cos it was manipulated point blank out of interests.
"The White Race was founded on by the Cro-Magnons....this type is found in its most pure form today in the people we call the Basques...this type probably created the worlds FIRST HUMAN CULTURE by about ~30,000 B.C. in Western Europe....this type also gave rise to ALL other White tribes whose genes changed very little as they moved across Euro-Asia"
the R1a invaders who came from Eastern Europe never referred to themselves as "Celts" but later would have been identified as such when they moved into Western Europe and became absorbed into the native R1b(ancient basques) Celtic population which adopted the language and culture of these Eastern R1a invaders
this theory is preempted by modern sciences, spectographie, carbon 14, genetics...
In fact it would be R1b who spread indo-european culture at R1a, furthermore it is not excluded that Basque is not an indo-european ergative language as the hittite.
it would seem that to have withdrawn the Basque language of the indo-european group could be an error difficult to rectify and even impossible for the time being, for numerous reasons among which some of political order.
Basque or euskara is a modern language of the Iron age, well that still not defined for reason more political than linguistics, the euskara shares 90 % of its vocabulary with roots indo-european and a topometry close to that of the hittites and ergative, for sure linguists Basque is an isolat and for others more and more numerous it is a language IE or proto IE. The genetic similar group of basques in the welsh and in English seems to be with them among most IE .
you are delirious, R1a1 is the Russian, Ukrainian, Indian... and R1a2 (R1b) are the indo-european invaders: Basque, Celtic, germanic and the aborigines are iberians, dinaric, scandinavic of put together I1 et I2b.
It is necessary to stop spreading wrong or past information and to update your information.
the Gallo-British basques of the group are downward modern people of tribes IE arrivals of Volga and Kuban.
@polarisreseau WRONG the people know as scythians are cult and is how russians are realted to them through ghomer and magog sorry guy R1a R1b same family no invaders iberian celt are related to the thuatha dedannon as are the gauls , basgs ,dacian ect...... germanic comes in after romans force their latin and their genetics these are facts not oppion
The cruithne were the founders of Ireland. They were working the land, had their own kingdoms and kings at least a thousand years before the gaels arrived there and they were there still when Columba brought Christianity..they may have been very similar to the Scottish picts.Their decendants can still be traced in Ireland.
VIOLA9927 2 days ago
Britons are Chinese. They look so much alike!
DKDamilos 3 months ago
the basques are hebrews
TheBasqueLand 3 months ago
@TheBasqueLand Yes I think their ancestors were the Hebrews and many others such as the Welsh and Celts.
PearlMoon36 2 months ago
@TheBasqueLand
Basques have no semitic genes,so that is rather unlikely.
StellandBlood 1 month ago
@StellandBlood today's semitic people arent like the ancient hebrews....semite used to mean white
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TheBasqueLand 3 months ago
Also it was a cultural takeover by the wealthy elite that led to the decline of the Picts. Due to internal strife a v young Pictish prince had to flee to relations in Dal Riada leaving Pictland in the hands of a usurper Gael and he was raised as a Gael so when he returned he continued the Gaelic influence. The people stayed the same but gradually adopted a new language, much like the decline of Scots and the rise of Scottish English when the royal court was moved to London.
TheXand19 4 months ago
Heh, I'm of prime Pictish stock.
TheXand19 4 months ago
'Cruithne' was what the ancient Irish called the people of Scotland, it meant "tribe of the designs" in reference to the early Scots blue tattoos they wore in battle.
segano1 4 months ago
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"The Basques are the original cro-magnons...they are as close to being a totally separate species of homo-sapien as we have in the world! They have a totally unique blood type..(Rhesus Negative (-)....(found in only ~1% of the worlds population).....and unique bone structure...that show them to be the direct descendents of the original cro-magnons!" This was said by an unbiased biologist
TheBasqueLand 6 months ago
lovely song i have no idea how many times i have reply this beautiful piece thanks u Valgaard for sharing to the world a wonderful song.
R0611994 6 months ago
dna testing shows ultra norse
bearcountrydillardga 7 months ago
So where did the Picts originate were they Celts or Iberians or Scandinavian/Nordic or a mixture?
ThePoptart1966 7 months ago
@ThePoptart1966 the picts are most likely in majority persons who decended from an early migration after the glacial smelting and very much identical to persons from iberia, they later had celtic culture (its not a race, and do not listen to any nazi who wants to tell you so).
000000AEA000000 6 months ago
@000000AEA000000 PIECE of shit we are most definity a race THE BASTERD SPEAKING IS THE NAZI PICTS ARE CELTS that melting you speak is the hyborian migration fool NOT a race that is why the icelanders and greenlanders call them the pure one TRASH TALKING NAZI SCUM
dagnab1 6 months ago
@ThePoptart1966 lol read his claims up please! that guy dagnab is funny as shit.
promise me brother^^
000000AEA000000 6 months ago
I wish the UK would let their hands off of northern ireland. If they would just pull back, the people could just be one again slowly.
000000AEA000000 6 months ago
why is the kings lake and so many pictures like that in here? thats in southern germany.
000000AEA000000 6 months ago
It is clear that Germans messed up entire history just to make themselves seem important. Whatever they did with Serbs in Helm (now called Balkans) they did with you guys too. In past few centuries they created 5 more nations in Helm and despite that Serbs keep drinking, dancing and having fun. Learn from our mistakes.
SerbNegroMonte 7 months ago
IDIOT there is no PRECELT there celts are decendants of ENOCH or atlantis this is hyperborian FACT as is the blood lines of the ancient indo-european kings ,france germany all the way to the black sea where celt people of the river danube romans killed them all basq and BRETON not with an i but an E are celts the ogholm script you display comes from our line of kings , FENIUS FARSAID son NEL son GAEDEL GLAS they are newer children of NOAH our root being before noah through SETH you know nothing!
dagnab1 8 months ago
@dagnab1
I am interested only in science, archaeology with all its forms of analysis which it carbon 14, spectrographie, genetics................. result does not admit you it is facts and you can compare nothing to it..
polarisreseau 8 months ago
@polarisreseau WELL we do know for sure that carbon 14 is an inaccurate form of testing for dateing.Also it is quite unture that there is no proof their is archaeological proof of entire danube,Hallstst and le tane. Aswell their are mounds of genetics that can help proove such as that fact that we know KING TUT was of atlantian stock and has R1B dna, or from the 7000 year remains in scottland PREFLOOD , how about the 15,000 year old ogholm and runic carvings found in the americas
dagnab1 8 months ago
@dagnab1
why always think that the earth is flat?
polarisreseau 8 months ago
@polarisreseau wow you dumb ill not be speaking with you any more
dagnab1 8 months ago
@polarisreseau ALSO the facts that the mu connection through the uyghur, AYNU and jomon have turned up many celtic cloths as well as mumified remains and who could forget the 6000 year old WHITE mummies of china with brightly woven celtic cloth or that the mesoamerican who are geniticly proven to be the closest related to japanese through mu by the aynu, joman,uyghur these mesoamerican say they where tought by white indians that where yellow and red haired giants HYPERBORIAN celt\norse wow
dagnab1 8 months ago
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polarisreseau 8 months ago
@polarisreseau i dont know what you mean by I pour you with MeMrecious over, you might better see if it lands back on you
dagnab1 8 months ago
@dagnab1 .the mummies have found to have European dna...but in haplogroup R1a rather than the more typically western/celtic R1b.
sonofherne 6 months ago
@sonofherne WRONG Knig tuts mummy has R1B ( IRISH ) dna read it and WEEP
dagnab1 6 months ago
@dagnab1 wrong... totally wrong... the R1b does not originate in Ireland my lunatic lad, you should really get help on your syndroms mate... its never too late for you to heal... a bit...
000000AEA000000 6 months ago
@000000AEA000000 YOU are a fucking foll look up r1b dumb ass where is it the most dense you your self fool said western celtic r1b and dont even see that you contradict your self,AS for hyborian barbarian shit sounds like somethin a roman buttfucker would say FOOL of couse the germans are latinized that why the fucking pope was a nazi youth for hitler but im shure your unaware of that becouse you are UNAWARE OF MUCH now piss off
dagnab1 6 months ago
@dagnab1 ohmg you are so great. You make me smile so much my
if you can read, you will see that R1b originates NOT in Ireland at all my american friend. I know its hard for you, for people who restrain on swearing in every fifth word are utterly stupid, and you have a more personal insight in this topic; you would realise that it got preserved rather well because Ireland is an ISLAND widely ignored by further population influx. Read up R1b or die together with your conspiracy theory shit ;-)
000000AEA000000 6 months ago
@000000AEA000000 You are agin a doumbass r1b is the dencest in ireland not originate it originate with hyborians weather you like it or not fool it is facts ,Aslo fact is the not so long ago island of hybrasil witch can still be seen it was part of atlantian culture ,I know well where r1b comes from and why its royal blood ,if you will remember conan was a cimmerian he was A CELT ,if you are a greek buff then you should know their first thoelogy knowage came from mielsian druidic people CELTS ha
dagnab1 6 months ago
@dagnab1 no, I am saying that as an Austrian, and you should bow in front of me, for an Austrian is Da Kiiiwng of da Hyboriahns! And I smasch you if you do not ffanisch and buy yourselfe a buuk!
Now goo hitha aaand reed onzhe topick!
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and you can not take a fu*** hint *giggles* I translate it again for you...... hiuuu are a barbaariaaaan, because you talk about conan the barbarian, when you mean Ireland........ old greek mythology and conan the barbarian do not make a good history knowledge ;-) (although I am personally a greek mythology freak, so to speak, but I do not mix THAT with drugs and history, which I would recommend you aswell.)
000000AEA000000 6 months ago
@polarisreseau fenius farsaid is a very uniqe person he will open a door to much other information and connections to the IE root toungs he is how i found out that proto celtic is basicly the IE indo-aryan toung also san scritt has connections to celtic toungs and the indo\aryans where there aswell look into thoses connections you should be able to find alot of info hope that helps, by
dagnab1 8 months ago
@dagnab1 can u hit me up with some sites pertaining 2 these subjects. you appear knowlegable in many of the topics I find very intresting. looks like u retain and organize your fact finding appropiately. thanx
TheBigLeeg 8 months ago
@dagnab1 wow you're crazy.
PS: Little hint: Celtic=culture, so pre-celt always exists.
But hoot to the conspiracy stuff... I liked the talk about atlantis and enoch and noah and the killing of all... your mind is a... well... somebody else must name it.
000000AEA000000 6 months ago
@000000AEA000000 you changed your name and think you slick ,Any piece of trash who could deny the violation of my people will get their curse, Now yes fool rome did create germany that is why the old norse toung is latinized Clown, Yes DUMB ass angles are from friesland you dumb shit 4 tribes came over on a papul bull (JUTS,WARNS,ANGLES,SAXONS) weahter you like it or not they are from friesland the fact that old english is german as FUCK SHOULD BE A HINT,finaly your soul &mind is that of a FOOL
dagnab1 6 months ago
@dagnab1 hahahaaaaa... yes yes, I got through your brainwank, but you did not answer my question. So these germanic invaders you call out, if the germans are roman, then they are aswell, no? *grins*. So your "old english" you talk of... is actually a roman tongue, like all of germans', right? *grins* please... PLEAAASE ANSWER *lol*
000000AEA000000 6 months ago
@000000AEA000000 doumb ass i dint say germans where the romans BUT yes very romanized how elese is the supposed nordic toung latinized clown , old english is a german toung look into it FOOL, you speak and know nothing the same iberian celts you speak of are the family of the picts,PREFLOOD the pictish wilderness was the tip of the iberian peninsula
dagnab1 6 months ago
@dagnab1 *giggles* You clearly said that the romans killed the native populations of france and germany and afterwardst bread and romanized your brains away. And no, I am sorry... german is not at all romanized, if you mean high-german, then the grammer is oriented on latin, so the tribes were able to create a language to talk to eachother. this started already with Karl getting scholars who spoke latin on his court. These people were invited, and did come as humble servants- his favourite irish
000000AEA000000 6 months ago
@000000AEA000000 Stupid fuck the island of hybrasil is right there off ireland it was above water not long ago,noah's ark is found by ron whyatt in turky dipshit,AND agin acting like my people werent killed you are a no nothing know it all who is uneducated and a hypocritical fool and yes the salutrian or white indian yes they always where since first man why do think every where the indo-aryan or atlantians where there is celtic cloth, dna, toung, king tut has irish dna cross of thoth celtic ?
dagnab1 6 months ago
@dagnab1 hold back your accusations of name change and so on... and hold down the swearing a bit you hyborian giant you... please, do not frighten me little roman... And talk a bit of sense if you want me to take you honest, ok?.
000000AEA000000 6 months ago
@000000AEA000000 I dont want you to take me any kind of way you spoke out to me and you speak lies on the picts i just want you to SHUT THE FUCK UP
dagnab1 6 months ago
@dagnab1 which lies please my hyborian barbarian friend?
And remember: accusations need to get proven, so I expect highly detailed links on your sources.
000000AEA000000 6 months ago
@000000AEA000000 ...a pre-historic chaos was my first impression.
earlydoorsjones 6 months ago
@earlydoorsjones His mind, that is...
earlydoorsjones 6 months ago
@earlydoorsjones I could not have said it better ;-).
Have a great week dude.
000000AEA000000 6 months ago
@000000AEA000000
I only went on this link to hear some Celtic music and found this absolute nutter ranting on about an argument for "my people" this and invaders/Romans/Angles that...
Amazing response!
It seems like he is battling with a few people that dare to call his sanity into question.
Have a good evening fella
earlydoorsjones 6 months ago
@earlydoorsjones EARLYDOORBITCH its all abot you go to hell,and if you vile cancerus theiving tribe haddent started the problems there, then their wouldent be any .since Jones is english and your a dickhead butting in for no reason then it could be assumed you understand where fault lies and can take your BOGSAVAGE ass back to FRIESLAND ............ and remeber piss off
dagnab1 6 months ago
@dagnab1 And aswell if you are claiming to be welsh and turning on a fellow gael for some sorry angle then utterly FUCK YOU kill your self you are of no loyality to you own tribes what so ever
dagnab1 6 months ago
@dagnab1 really dagnab1 u reply to ur self
R0611994 6 months ago
@R0611994 no dumbass i had more to say its the second part fool hence the ASWEE at the beginning but since you are a fucking troll baby its pretty hard for you to get it
dagnab1 6 months ago
@dagnab1 well it was just pretty funny to read it and then look at who it is directed to. HAHA. Thank u for the good laugh. Also thank u for bring me to this song i love it, they truly say that all bad there is a good
R0611994 6 months ago
@dagnab1
Oh dear...
I have been reading posts with your name on. I am not the only one with whom you refuse to have a rational dialogue with am I. Mind you, when a person introduces "Enoch" to a discussion, its going to be difficult.
Count the number of people you have told to f""c off - how many people can one person swear at before they start to question themselves? The funny thing is, I don't think you are there yet.
Oh yes, please use full stops. The Romans did not invent them.
earlydoorsjones 6 months ago
@dagnab1 Can you keep writing please, this has become the best laugh I've had since watching Bill Hicks on DVD. This bit was the best "...and remember piss off". Oh yes, "tribe" should be a plural, as in "tribes".
If you do choose to continue our correspondence, I can teach you to profane in Welsh if you like - I take it you hate the English language, so something more Brythonic would be more suitable for you???
Obviously English is not your first language, but please try using full stops.
earlydoorsjones 6 months ago
@earlydoorsjones NO bitch i wont use full stopsNow im going to do it to be an ass and you can tell your satanic rosicrution friend Francis Bacon thank you for your shit holr anglish toung or didnt you know a frence satan worshiper invented your language fagget as for how many i told to fuck off as many as have jumped into an argument that wasent thiers now as before ,I truly hope you kill yourself
dagnab1 6 months ago
@dagnab1 it is on utube u know it everybody arguement if they see a wrong they jump, its not a private chat, u are post ur arugement to the world. (Just thought u should know that, that all)
R0611994 6 months ago
@R0611994 SO the fuck what ' ' its a pulic forum ' ' shut the goddamn hell up fool no one cares what you little self rightous mommas boy's have to say stay jaking off to you computer pussy and fucking close your shitty trap. Oh just thought id speak like im from your side of the pond maby it pleases you more, I know how all you realy understand is profanity so i thiught this would help hahahaha
dagnab1 6 months ago
@dagnab1 well from u i know only profanity, it would stun me if u would to use more though out and process word (but that is too hard for a closeminded idiot like u). I only told u that it was a public forum because of ur qoute "i told to fuck off as many as have jumped into an argument that wasent thiers now as before" because this well never happen due to the (here is the punch line) ITS A PUBIC FORUM hahaha
R0611994 6 months ago
@R0611994 WELL to a trouble maker or dickheads its a punch line to funny joke, Here's the thing you never had a point to argue from the things i pointed out in history happened there is plenty of proof, the attitudes comming at me are the one in the wrong like your , And wont get to prove any points as before you are now SPAM hahahaha
dagnab1 6 months ago
@dagnab1 I'm impressed u used less swears, wow. I'm really stunned. Also i was never adding a point to aruge i was just stating they are to different things, reading back on the comment that started it, it was only to just make sure u knew it was an pubic forum so pretty much everyone can jump in that all. Thank u for using very little swears, it just makes it easier to see ur points.
R0611994 6 months ago
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Hi dagnab - feeling more balanced today?
Lesson 1: "Ast" is Welsh for bitch - you use that word a lot, and you can now use the pre-Roman guilt free version with all the other people that you are in "dialogue" with.
The more often you use it, the more people will feel intimidated, scared and ultimately come round you your argument. Its a win-win!
That is what a rational discussion is...when two people have a difference of opinion, the one who says bitch ("ast") the most wins!
earlydoorsjones 6 months ago
@earlydoorsjones I see you have a solid theroy i would like to know more your physics are very interesting clearly a cut abouve the standard mathimatical formuli i would love to see the application of these theroies please let me know how they work........... yours truly DAGNAB president of the AST society hahahahahaa
dagnab1 6 months ago
@dagnab1
Hi dagnab, just having a laugh for a moment:
I am quoting you here (not wishing it on anybody) "I truly hope you kill yourself".
You are going to call me a poo poo next aren't you...a horrible horrible poo poo!
Do not go so low as to call me a "douche bag" - 'cause that really would cut me to the core.
earlydoorsjones 6 months ago
@earlydoorsjones ok well douche is a little messy being an organic hygene item, How ever the end your self comment also can sound harsh unless... you consider a celtic person attacing another celtic person in defence of an angle would be a pinicle of disloyalty ,dishonor, selfworth .SO i guess the whole mean comment would depend on weather some one is proud to be a celt and could care about what happened to you fellow celtic people OR be a dick and side with angles .I guess the future will tell
dagnab1 6 months ago
in Galicia so everything we teach in this video .. in the Basque country there is nothing of that, that means this video ..
1elgalle1 9 months ago
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polarisreseau 9 months ago
@polarisreseau the Swabians of the former Germany Swabia, this Nippur for more information was Erwin Rommel. in 416 settled about 350,000 and 80,000 fighters, perhaps at that time Gaelic was spoken in Galica before there were the Celts are Celtic crosses Arquelogicas dolmens excavations of these cities you can find in Celtic Ireland in the rest of Spain, tribes of central Europe, the Visigoths about 450,000, but two Alans and Others
1elgalle1 9 months ago
@1elgalle1 THEY DONT realize that celts and norse are hyborian ido-aryan and that rome created germany the first people of that land where and still are CELTIC
dagnab1 8 months ago
@polarisreseau english are a germanic tribe from FRIESLAND AND ARE NOT CELTS bretons are celts
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celtic4ever18 8 months ago
@celtic4ever18 NO i am not the ( friesian ignwzones) Juts Warn Angels Saxons giving bull order from rome to come to the isles of the celts english culture goes right through friesland into thier germanic norse herritage descendants of FREYR witch is where you get all of your damned ENG and ING prefixes becouse the Eng ING is of FREYR thats why its called ingland,england later and why the damn tribe is called Angels there is no fucking way you can call your self celtic or english and not know
dagnab1 7 months ago 6
@dagnab1 well im an english man with ancestry on northumberland and north east of england and i have some irish blood in me on my grandmother side and i tell ye that i dont look germanic i look british briton i have wavy curly brown reddish hair blue eyes small wide bridge flat nose and short height im not germanic looking at all i look british i must descend from the brigantes and parisi
celtic4ever18 7 months ago
@celtic4ever18 well we are a little more related through the norse side of english herritage its just the dissagreements and the way rome put us at each other that has coused a lot of pain on a larger family level of the tribes
dagnab1 7 months ago
@dagnab1 i suppose i look irish briton due to my irish blood on grandmother side you wanna have an idea how i look like then im like the handsome version of colm meaney with round jaw and same wavy curly hair
celtic4ever18 7 months ago
@dagnab1 doesn't the "engl" part of england come from "Angel/Angal from the Anglo Saxons? isn't England = Land of Angals?
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@AhleKashanam yes that is correct the pre fix ing , or eng is for the norse god fryer who is brother to freya and thor
dagnab1 7 months ago
@dagnab1 english are briton they only germanic by culture
celtic4ever18 7 months ago
@celtic4ever18 not true they come from friesland and this is provable by DNA aswell as history and culture it fact guy breton are celts that have been forceable mixed it is fact please dont remind us of this lets move forward you know the english are germanic and you dont come from this land respect the herritage of your irish relative and examine more closley the truth plese , respectlyfuly Dagnab
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celtic4ever18 7 months ago
@dagnab1 yes im a mixture of celt and germanic and i have to be proud of my heritage dagnad i respect the celtic nations
celtic4ever18 7 months ago 2
@celtic4ever18 well first Thank you very much for respecting our cultures and for an aspect of healing our tribes i would like to say that rome's involvment is where the disagreements between Celts and some germanic & anglo saxon tribes began . I truly belive that in looking more to our nonroman side of history is a way that the celtic and other tribes can reconcile former problem at one time celtic and norse culture where not seprate this is Romes influence in germany we can HEAL OUR TRIBES
dagnab1 7 months ago 2
@dagnab1 .Actually dna has shown otherwise. Yes, there is considerable Saxon/Norse input but nowhere near the 100% we were once lead to believe (for political reasons.) At most in the east you get between 50-90% Germanic-this area may have been depleted of people due to plague before the Saxons arrived. in the west most people are 'celtic' (prehistoric) ancestry. Over 80% of Cornishmen cluster with the Welsh and these types are high in all western England.
sonofherne 6 months ago
@sonofherne NO not do to pluage but murder and yes man the angle saxons where brought in there by rome FROM FRIESLAND the cornish and welsh cluster becouse they dont want to mix
dagnab1 6 months ago
@sonofherne I do not know any test that shows a majority of germanic people in the east of england at all, there is almost no continental I haplogroup (as pointed out by oppenheimer) and the test of univ. college london was a fraud, for they were testing on entirely old danish settled regions only, while cutting out whole junks of testing areas. As you say, most historians say guesses like you did, and I agree, for I do not think that english persons look like danes or germans at all.
000000AEA000000 6 months ago
@dagnab1yes dagnab but not all of them look germanic due that many irish moved to england for work and that made them a germanic celtic mix and theres a lot more black and brown hair in england than blonde
celtic4ever18 7 months ago
@celtic4ever18 your a little too focased on looks man the ancient ido-aryans where know to have brown blonde or red hair both wavy and curly aswell as strait and had brown, green and blue eyes this is from multiple sources that met them .Period realize that the germanics are not the first they dont belong here they fucking lie about history and us we ARE SICK WE ARE TAKING BACK OUR LAND HERRITAGE AND OUR GODDDAMN PRIDE angles english germans better get the fuck out of the way or help rebuild !
dagnab1 7 months ago 4
@dagnab1 well said dagnab you speak like a true celt briton cheers say what you want but deep in your soul you know the english are a mixture of celts britons and germanics warriors
celtic4ever18 7 months ago
@celtic4ever18 deep in my soul i know that BRETONS are celts just like irish and scott WHY CANT YOU GET THE FACT YOU ARE MIXED WITH US AND WE DONT LIKE IT GET IN YOUR FUCKING HEAD GO BACK TO FRIESLAND WE ARE TAKING BACK OUR ISLES i dont care if you go to germani friesland . i know nothing in my soul but we hate YOU the angle are the most goddless thieving lying stealing murding disrespectful whitebetreying roman sympothizing cancer that mother tara has ever looked at that is my SOUL
dagnab1 7 months ago
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celtic4ever18 7 months ago
@dagnab1 i apologize dagnab with all the respect of course the english ARE GERMANIC theres DNA evidence of aparthaid system and it worked but in my case i have Irish blood on grandmother side so that makes me GERMANIC AND BRITON CELTIC a mixture i would call that AngloCeltic i respect both nations the germanic and the celtic you see im lucky my ancestors are both germanics and celts britons i have angle viking and gael genes and im very proud of my heritage
celtic4ever18 7 months ago
@dagnab1 Wow - that is a lot of repressed tension released just there.
earlydoorsjones 7 months ago
@earlydoorsjones WAS anyone speaking to you if not keep it to your self comment like yours, couse what you where commenting about
dagnab1 7 months ago
@dagnab1 That sounds like projection and denial.
You are getting all het up over a 2000 year old issue that is not going to make one wit of difference today - even if you do use nasty words.
Using words out of hate in the way you did is just like being back in the playground.
Look, if you post a comment on youtube, expect people to comment - it is what it is here for.
If you don't like the opinions of others, don't post comments.
Attitudes like yours explain why people don't move on.
earlydoorsjones 7 months ago
@earlydoorsjones Mindless idiot 2000 years ago my people are not free now dumbass our children get shot in the head with rubber bullets and killed the damn english still keep controll of the nation and the money we are one of the poorest nations in europe and one of the oldest this is becouse ours has been taken 200 years ago TRY RIGHT NOW FOOL FUCK YOU AND SHUT YOUR GODDAMN MOUTH TO ME , like an angle you deny becouse of your responsability
dagnab1 7 months ago
@dagnab1 Hi dagnab. Being as you don't communicate in English, neither will I.
Pam ydych chi'n meddwl wyf yn Saesneg? My language - what's yours?
Oh, I thought the mindless idiot insult was almost as overly dramatic as the plastic bullets guilt trip. You don't need any Romans, or Angles, or Saxons, or English to kill your people. The last time I read the news, 'your' people were capable of killing each other very well. Cut the crap.
Seek psychological help if you intend having children.
earlydoorsjones 6 months ago
@dagnab1 hahahahaha I actually read that. You call the "germani friesland" roman ''sympothizing''....... duuuuuuuuuuude. Your soul is a messy place..... all the killing, population changing, swearing... You are american, you have nothing to do with this anymore anyway............ cool down.
000000AEA000000 6 months ago
@dagnab1 just so I understand you... you say there are no germans, for they are all roman... but after the roman empire declined and pulled back(not that they were in the area you talk about anyway) and the "english" came to britain... the "Engllish" as you call them... are still german? or are they romans? You are mighty hard to look through... lol
000000AEA000000 6 months ago
@dagnab1 .Do you really believe every English person is saxon? That they killed everyone when outnumbered nearly 10 to 1? (Where are the remains??)When some people still spoke celtic languages in Wiltshire,Devon and Cumbria till the 12th c? When Saxons' own accounts actually speak of British people having settlements amongst them? When 'saxon' leaders like Cerdic had CELTIC names?
sonofherne 6 months ago
@sonofherne no i aslo told you they are the other 3 tribes that make up what you call the ingwaz tribale group ( angles,saxons,juts,warns) THE ENGLISH from friesland ing or eng is the term for the norse god freyr that is the true root of the english they where nore before the roman influence JUST FACTS GUY SORRY FOR YOU
dagnab1 6 months ago
@sonofherne being out numbered didnt help when the celts where never unified and your english culture knew and exploited the shit out of it the bodies are everwhere JERK how did uther and his father die , or maby we should distroy london bridge to get williams head of course there where germanics with celtic influenice becouse the celts lived and existed in those lands first . The icelanders found celts there when they got there, aslo in greenland the same. the first people in most of europe
dagnab1 6 months ago
@dagnab1
That's a tricky subject it depends on what you mean by English, the nationals of the entire modern country or the root of the name. Similar is the confusion with the Scots 'The Scots came from Ireland' which is a phrase which irks alot of people. Scots being the name given to the Gaels but the modern Scots is mostly Picto-Gael.
Cybopath 6 months ago
@Cybopath The Scots are by far and wide Caledonian Picts, by majority of indigenous genetics.
There is no prove otherwise, the Ireland myth is a Plastic Paddie fantasy.
segano1 4 months ago
@segano1
The Picts make up the vast majority of the people of Scotlands ethnic background back but you can't denie the Gaels (The Scotti) Had no influence, no way would the Picts subside to a small number of Gaels and use their language and elements of their culture for no reason. There where also Picts in Ireland before the Gaels came. The six sodhains where the last Pictish dynesty in Ireland.
Cybopath 4 months ago
@Cybopath Interesting, I've had a few Irish or 'Irish-Americans' (No harm intended by the Plastic Paddie word lol, in fact some embrace it, it's just because Americans obviously have a larger population, they will reach more by word of mouth on places like Youtube) - as they call themselves claim that their are no Pictish settlement in Ireland.
I've never heard of the 'The Six Sohains' before, do you know which part of Ireland they inhabited?
segano1 4 months ago
@Cybopath Having looked at the latest work from Stuart McHardy's "A new history of the Picts", he re-states that there is no evidence that a tribe came from Ireland, in fact, the other way around,, that Dál Riata was already indigenous to Scotland and they set up over seas trade routes in Antrim (Ulster, N.Ireland).
Brian Sykes claims that the label OGAP4 is the quintessential Scottish haplotype code for Picts, and claims it to be "ubiquitous across all areas of Scotland".
segano1 4 months ago
@Cybopath It's stated that if the Irish tribes to Dál Riata were not overstated as fact then there should be a sign of mass immigration from Ireland to Scotland in archaeological record as there were for every other large scale migrations through time, but there is none.
If it was a small élite takeover by a war band, who must have adopted local material culture and settlement forms, there should be signs of the language of the indigenous majority in the place names, but again there is none.
segano1 4 months ago
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@Cybopath Some sources also claim the term 'Scotti' is derived from the ancient Greek word 'Skoto' (Darkland), and the Greeks knew of the Picts/Scots long before the Romans did, then the Romans Latinised 'Skoto' to 'Scotti' and re-defined it to mean 'speakers of non-Latin'.
Then also that 'Scotti' was later Anglicised to 'Scottish', possibly re-defined to Pirate, Predator or/and Raider, also note, several Roman records talk of the Caledonian Picts love to 'plunder'.
Some claim elsewhere though
segano1 4 months ago
@Cybopath You're right, Caledonian Picts wouldn't back down to a foreign power (if they were foreign), having just resisted an entire empire that stretched across much of Europe in the west, centre and N.Africa after several centuries.
Dál Riata being roughly 1/4 the size of Caledonian Pict territory, it seems impossible, I don't doubt though religious influence from that direction but a total take over would be impossible, they were likely related to Picts, but under a different constitution.
segano1 4 months ago
@segano1
I assume that the Picts and the Gaels had some common Celtic ground or perhaps more (We're not Anglo-Saxons) Plus the fact Pictish society rulers where passed maternally rather than paternally so one person of both backgrounds could attain both thrones and unite the peoples of Alba. It was howver ironicly a Pictish Prince (Raised in an Irish kingdom) who embrased the Gaelic tongue and spread it through his kingdom.
Cybopath 4 months ago
@DroidNoid
it is in effect unrealistic, in fact it is about the wave of plague existent of the culture of Halstatt in Austria, basques also come from this migration and kept a language which they nickname metallic language.
The group was called L176.2 (Basque, welsh, English, Bavarian) and his cousin L21 (Irish, Scotsman, Bavarian...)
polarisreseau 9 months ago
@Sociolog26
The indo-european by Bernard Sergent
polarisreseau 9 months ago
whats the name of the last song
itserik1 9 months ago
The Irish Were Egyptians Long Ago
watch?v=w53eaWOUzCE
greenmagoos 9 months ago
BLACK IRISH AND SCOTS The people, jokingly called the Black Irish, have dark hair and eyes, wedge-shaped faces and look like Berbers and Basques. Their blood type proves that Berbers and Basques were originally closely related people, as many of them have Rh-negative blood. They are likely the descendants of the first settlers to Ireland and Scotland. This type of people is especially common in Conamara and Donegal of Ireland and on the Outer Hebrides of Scotland.
greenmagoos 9 months ago
@greenmagoos
I know the Basque country well and I had never seen that basques were dark and berber but very similar in Bretons of France and very different from other Spanishes I determined all over their physical appearance and their culture.
And basques are from the same genetic group R-M167 as English, Bretons and Welshmen.
polarisreseau 9 months ago
rhesus negative type blood-
"The highest percentage is found among some of the tribes still living in the Atlas Mountains of Morocco (40%). The next highest are the Basques, reported in different publications as having 25 and 32%, depending on location. The people of northwest Ireland, the Highland Scots and the western islanders of Norway all have between 16 and 25%, while the Lapps of Norway and Finland have between 5 and 7%."
greenmagoos 9 months ago
How the Body Works : The Rh Factor
watch?v=7OWp8d8WKkg
greenmagoos 9 months ago
The rhesus negative gene is recessive compared to the positive like red hair genetics and it doesn't take well to being mixed with rh+ blood types esepecially in the maternal/female ancestory lineage.
greenmagoos 9 months ago
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greenmagoos 9 months ago
@DroidNoid .Absolutely. These early migrations of the neolithic,which were among the largest and most influential in history, should be looked to as the source of most ancestry not putatative celtic invasions(with no archaeology or genetics to support it) and especially not later invasions.
sonofherne 9 months ago
@polarisreseau .Curious though...who do you then think the Stonehenge and other British/Irish megalith builders were? We know by their bones they were a slight,long headed Mediterranean type of people, and by their gravegoods/monuments we know they had strong connections to the Atlantic seaboard, particularly Brittany but also Spain.
sonofherne 9 months ago
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greenmagoos 9 months ago
@Sociolog26 .For many years people though the celts arrived in Britain in about 500 BC from central Europe. Now it's known there were no such invasions. The celtic Iron Age gew up from the bronze age before it. The earlier people pre or proto celts are both the megalith builders of the area, with affinities to the Atlantic seaboard, not central Europe. And our direct ancestors.
sonofherne 9 months ago
@sonofherne I have studied this analogy and most of it makes sense. The only thing that has me wondering how accurate it is, is the fact that rural people in East Yorkshire, Lincolnshire & East Anglia have such a high predominance of blonde hair even today. Yet according to Oppenheimer no part of the British Isle has more than 80% of Central European or Scandinavian dna anywhere. Still on the fence, but always welcome new evidence or explanation.
ALBIONTYKE 9 months ago
@ALBIONTYKE
difference of shade between Basque R1b and R1b Ecossais not much differs and effect UV is and acquires in some generations it would seem and are the fact of physical adaptation and are characteristics minor as brachycephalic, in effect the old Basque graveyard of 1500 years reveals that they were before more dolichocephalic before for exactly the same DNA.
polarisreseau 9 months ago
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@sonofherne
Obviously, the Celts of the culture of Halstatt (culture of iron) arrive in Great Britain in about 500 BC, their descendants are the Basque, welsh, Irish, Scotsman, English, Breton, and partly Catalan, gascons, Dutch... They broadly contributed to construct modern Europe with the England, France, Spain, Holland-Belgium.
polarisreseau 9 months ago
The name "Kelt" was given by the Romans and Greeks, for tribes of people that became native to Austria and the Rhine. These tribes spoke a Celtic language similar to Gaelic Cornish and Breton etc. I think these groups of continental people were responsible for the Hallstatt culture. They were called simply called that "Celts" and they spoke "only" a Celtic language.
MultiTangle 10 months ago
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polarisreseau 10 months ago
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polarisreseau 10 months ago
@polarisreseau I was just going to answer you're comment ,but you have removed it. Most Genetics have been telling us, that true Celts only gave minor Genetics. If what you say is correct, then they are all descended from the same groups of people. And yet the Celts were speaking a "non Basque" language.
MultiTangle 10 months ago
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@MultiTangle
really and basques-Bretons or Gaulish come from the culture of Halstatt (R1b / M269 / P310 / L11 / P312 / S128 / L21 / L176.2 / SRY2627).
R1b / M269=Peuple Altaï, north Caucasus. proto-IE
P310 / L11 = Indo-European.
P312 / S128 = proto-Celtic.
L21 = Holland / Austria, Halstatt
L176.2 = Gaulish, France, Belgium, east England.
SRY2627 = Gallo-British (Basque, breton, welsh, English)
polarisreseau 10 months ago
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polarisreseau 9 months ago
@MultiTangle .celtic languages were spoken in huge swathes of Europe, especially the west, from about 2500 BC. It was in this area they probably arrived in Britain/Ireland, with the arrival of bronze age metal prospectors. The Hallstatt people don't seem to have a very close genetic resemblance to,say, the irish. Iberians, however, do.
sonofherne 9 months ago
@MultiTangle
Iit is about existent M176.2 of the culture of Halstatt at the origin of Gallo-British man (Basque, English, welsh) and of Gaelic (Irish Scotsman, Bavarian)
polarisreseau 9 months ago
@MultiTangle
to begin language intervenes not much in culture, you can change language without changing culture or religion, we determine it in Europe with immigration, and it explains why iralndais, English, Bretons, Basque and welsh have the same culture with languages different as had already determined it caesar Julius, 2000 years old before us.
polarisreseau 9 months ago
@polarisreseau in Galicia there Breton, brion, brigs .. the crosses on all the roads and in Brittany, in the Basque country there is nothing about it or Celtic crosses, in Galicia we have a few .. not to come this video if you have nad to do with these Celtic regions Galicia is its flag in the region of Celtic communities, plus national gegrafic in Asturias and Galicia and goes north of portugal .. the episode is called the realm celt, do not believe these independet Basque
1elgalle1 9 months ago
There is a big difference, between the Celtic and English music and culture.
MultiTangle 10 months ago
This guy might be taking into account, that the Cornish are English. Many Cornish people class themselves as being Celtic Cornish and brythonic.
I am not saying that the Basques do not share ancestry with these groups, but Basques are not Celts. They have never spoken a Celtic language or participated in Celtic culture.
MultiTangle 10 months ago
@MultiTangle
there is not or not enough difference cultural or religious or dress or musical between basque-Breton, English and welsh, but these people speak 3 very different languages among which 2 IE and one one hard suspected of the being also. But they remain very close to their Gaelic cousins (Scottish, Irish, Bavarian)
polarisreseau 10 months ago
@polarisreseau There are similarities with the Celtic culture. Somewhere back in time they might of shared the same Ancestors, but i cannot understand how the Brits are descended from basques.
MultiTangle 10 months ago
@MultiTangle The whole "descent from Basques" is more theory than fact, and what do you mean "Brits"?
You mean the Welsh Britons? because if you mean the modern term of "Brits" that can apply to 4 separate different peoples today, as Britain is just a current union state of 3 nations and a term of citizenship of 4 nations.
Englanistan 10 months ago
@Englanistan When i said Brits, it applied to all the British. I came across a new video on YT where six British people in England took part in reliable DNA tests, and their genetics were traced to the middle east.
I have been reading that updates have shown that most of the people in the Isles DNA is from the middle east and the Balkans.
After all, how do we know who is descended from who? maybe the Basques are descended from Irish.
MultiTangle 10 months ago
@MultiTangle That's why I don't believe ancestry makes you who you are, it's just too irrelevant to judge you as blood lines change all the time, especially in the new world.
Englanistan 9 months ago
@MultiTangle .the mountains of Spain were the refuge for people during the Ice age. After the ice melted they spread down the western coast and walked straight into Britain/Ireland. Later, the (neolithic/bronze age)coastal route from Iberia up towards Norway was the great trade route of its age. one of the earliest pieces of metal C2400 bc) in Britain came from Spain. It makes more sense that people came to Britain from the Spanish refugium rather than the more distant Ukrainian one.
sonofherne 9 months ago
@polarisreseau Scots descend from the native Caledonian Picts of old Scotland (Alba).
They are not Irish as proved with the OGAP4 genetic haplotype Pictish code which is distinct from Irish, even the Irish called the Ulster tribe the same as what they called all of Scotland at the time "Cruithne" - old Irish for "tribe of the designs".
Englanistan 10 months ago
@Englanistan I did not not know they found the DNA of the Picts, that is interesting.
MultiTangle 10 months ago
@MultiTangle And yes, not many people know that about the Scots, that they still retain their original descent in blood by majority from the Caledonian Picts of old Scotlad (Alba).
There's a hell of a lot of ignorant people on youtube who just comment on things with out researching it correctly before hand, that ignorance spreads on to the clueless, and then you have another generation of ignorant people who repeat the process over.
Englanistan 9 months ago
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@Englanistan
I do not understand if he speaks about IE of the group R1b (Basque, welsh) or of aborigine of the group I2b (iberian, ancient britton) which represent only about 15 % of basques or British men. But I think that he blends the I group and R1b.
polarisreseau 9 months ago
@MultiTangle . Yes,correct, they are not celts but are genetically related to the people we call celtic today. And tbh the people of Britain and Ireland never called themselves 'celts' till the 1700's either. The Romans didn't refer to them as such. Culture or language does not denote ethnicity--otherwise you'd think every English speaking country was 'Anglo-Saxon'. However,even many English people are not genetically Anglo-Saxon but also have 'celtic' ancestry.
sonofherne 9 months ago
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The Basques are the original europeans,the original white race, the original cromagnon.This was said by a science man
JorgeLorenzoSpain100 10 months ago
Beautiful pictures, some of the buildings reminds me of places in the south-west countryside of england.
MissCherrySkull 10 months ago
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CELT IS HELLENIC WORD THE REAL celts ARE HELLENES THE french IS HELLENIC RACE
unfukkkmee 10 months ago
now sayin basque was the 1st language spoken on earth sounds like i am pullin ur leg cos we werent taught this at school cos it was manipulated point blank out of interests.
JorgeLorenzoSpain100 10 months ago
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"The White Race was founded on by the Cro-Magnons....this type is found in its most pure form today in the people we call the Basques...this type probably created the worlds FIRST HUMAN CULTURE by about ~30,000 B.C. in Western Europe....this type also gave rise to ALL other White tribes whose genes changed very little as they moved across Euro-Asia"
JorgeLorenzoSpain100 11 months ago
the R1a invaders who came from Eastern Europe never referred to themselves as "Celts" but later would have been identified as such when they moved into Western Europe and became absorbed into the native R1b(ancient basques) Celtic population which adopted the language and culture of these Eastern R1a invaders
JorgeLorenzoSpain100 11 months ago
@JorgeLorenzoSpain100
this theory is preempted by modern sciences, spectographie, carbon 14, genetics...
In fact it would be R1b who spread indo-european culture at R1a, furthermore it is not excluded that Basque is not an indo-european ergative language as the hittite.
polarisreseau 10 months ago
@polarisreseau u may be on to something i read all advanced language stemmed from basque n that basque was the 1st language spoken on earth.
JorgeLorenzoSpain100 10 months ago
@JorgeLorenzoSpain100
it would seem that to have withdrawn the Basque language of the indo-european group could be an error difficult to rectify and even impossible for the time being, for numerous reasons among which some of political order.
polarisreseau 10 months ago
@JorgeLorenzoSpain100
Basque or euskara is a modern language of the Iron age, well that still not defined for reason more political than linguistics, the euskara shares 90 % of its vocabulary with roots indo-european and a topometry close to that of the hittites and ergative, for sure linguists Basque is an isolat and for others more and more numerous it is a language IE or proto IE. The genetic similar group of basques in the welsh and in English seems to be with them among most IE .
polarisreseau 10 months ago
@JorgeLorenzoSpain100
you are delirious, R1a1 is the Russian, Ukrainian, Indian... and R1a2 (R1b) are the indo-european invaders: Basque, Celtic, germanic and the aborigines are iberians, dinaric, scandinavic of put together I1 et I2b.
It is necessary to stop spreading wrong or past information and to update your information.
the Gallo-British basques of the group are downward modern people of tribes IE arrivals of Volga and Kuban.
polarisreseau 10 months ago
@polarisreseau i didnt disrespect u so dont disrespect me n i dont even understand u cos ur english is not good.
JorgeLorenzoSpain100 10 months ago
@polarisreseau WRONG the people know as scythians are cult and is how russians are realted to them through ghomer and magog sorry guy R1a R1b same family no invaders iberian celt are related to the thuatha dedannon as are the gauls , basgs ,dacian ect...... germanic comes in after romans force their latin and their genetics these are facts not oppion
dagnab1 10 months ago