Those people using the term "fascist" about Obama are a real curiosity. It was just a few months ago they were trying to use the term "socialist" about him, and the two could hardly be further apart, so it's clearly a sign of desperation.
Obama is a democrat, a democratic party is left-centered. Fascism is about as right-centered as you can get. I think the vast majority of these people don't even know what fascism, socialism of capitalism really is. Stupid dickholes.
Tea baggers want you to believe that the government is taking away our rights when the majority of them are extremists especially religion wise who want to take away most of our basic liberties and human rights. They want to take away your grandparents' health care because they consider it unconstitutional and do away with anything that keeps people off of welfare b/c it's 'unconstitutional' and meanwhile they also want to take away welfare b/c it's 'uncostitutional'.
Most Americans are idiots.... most don't even know what a fascist or fascism is... but I will tell you that America is a fascist country.... please just look it up idiots before you start arguing with me.... when I say look it up I mean use a dictionary... when I say use a dictionary you can also google the word fascist or fascism and then read the meaning of the fucking word..... god dam-it I hate how stupid my beautiful country has become....
Communist -->Bloom started“We know that the free market is nonsense. We know that the whole point is to game the system, to beat the market or at least find someone who will pay you a lot of money, ’cause they’re convinced that there is a free lunch. We know this is largely about power, that it’s an adults only no limit game. We kind of agree with Mao that political power comes largely from the barrel of a gun." YOU decide if the statement is a joke as he told Congress. I say LIE
Cuse he is.. cuse he is... cuse he is...... he has no idea what a fascist even is ... has no clue what the definition of the word is... yet he will keep repeating it because Fox Lies told him to...... America is in deep doo doo when the stupidest people in the country are the ones backed by billionaires....which is the REAL definition of fascism by the way.
Fascism is a phenomena of the right, where the pathetic Authoritarian Personality is most at home --- either trying to command people, or obeying, with absolute servility. (Servility is the primary characteristic of Republicans.)
Just because he's too dumb to explain it doesn't mean he cant be right. I mean, we've been so pro capitalism ever since Obama took office. And its not like we're going out and starting wars for like... no reason or anything. And he certainly isn't blatantly ignoring the Constitution on these matters. So there's no way he could be a fascist.
Obama is like Bush except he's hiding behind the United Nations. I don't remember him coming to the American Public and actually talking to us about Libya or attacking it.... he's a sneak and a fascist! It's not okay to lie and he's another example of a Nation Builder who hides behind the fascists who control out government!
The dictionary definition of fascism is: “a governmental system with strong centralized power, permitting no opposition or criticism, controlling all affairs of the nation (industrial, commercial, etc.), emphasizing an aggressive nationalism . . .”
@azthundercloud correction: Obama supporters get yelled at an blamed all of the time, ever heard of Fox News? Also, you probably could see the certificate anytime. They HAVE shown the certificate so redundantly. I find it almost annoying that people are still clinging to that.
The definition of a fascist is Limbaugh, Palin, Ryan, Boehner, and the rest of the republican goon squad dummy.... seriously are you a kid... I bet you can't spell anything without the help of auto correct YOU FUCKING JOKE!!!! HAHAHA....
HAHAHA were the hell did you get the definition Cuba was a country run by fascism the only people who have control are those with money.. and those with money are the only ones who have a say so... we don't have that problem because we have democracy so this guy calling obama a fascist definitely has no idea on how to use the word because we do have a say so on who we want to run this country so your definitely wrong on your part... your wrong....
@xxGizmo05xx Ask your self why the people in power have money? Do they have power because they have money,or do they have money because they have power. Look at the full picture not just what you want to.
@nero8289 Also ask your self how did they gain money. Did they steal it by taxing people,or did they earn it by creating,and providing a product for profit.
What??? Fascism/Dictatorship is the reason they obtained the money the majority has to live under communism and has no say so on how much they make yet the minority that rules over them use those people as slaves and make a profit by making them work hard everyday. This is why the republicans want us not to have unions and work under their terms do you even understand the reasons why republicans want the true democratic candidates to look so bad??? think about it....
to make it more simple they have power due to the amount of money they contain.. who do you think hire these idiots on the republicans side.. I mean look at the whole social security dilemma these imbeciles want to get their grubby little hands on the trillions we have put into the fund and by getting into voters heads by using fear I bet they will have people begging for privatized retirement funds and as you can see privatizing has to be the dumbest thing to do look at healthcare..
@xxGizmo05xx Well wrong the private sector is a million times better then anything he government can do. There is nothing wrong with health care.Also if some one where to put money in a Ira you would have much more than you would ever get from social security.
Tell that to the billions of people that have paid for health care over the years and get rejected if they have cancer or other terminal illnesses due to some loop holes in their contracts do you even research anything that you talk about or do you just believe the crap those ass holes tell you... do research don't talk out your ass....
Medicare and social security benefits have helped billions of people to this day and have never turned down any one who qualified so I trust my money is safe with the government compared to some clown on wall street who only worries about his own greed...
Help the poor..... I can give you alot more things the government does better than the private sector... can you tell me something the private does better than the government..
@xxGizmo05xx Look we are never going to agree on these issues. Why don't we try to find some common ground? What is your opinion on things like the war on drugs,religion,Gay marriage?
well thats because we were raised in different environments... To me religion is a necessity all drugs should be abolished except for marijuana since it has been proven to help people medically and gays should be able to marry god created us all with love and no where in the bible does it say god hates gays but he does not approve prejudice against anyone...
@xxGizmo05xx OK, I think all drugs should be legal. Tho I believe they are all bad for you. Well besides marijuana. I am an atheist,but I believe that there are a lot of good morals in the bible. I agree 100% with you on gays. It pisses me of that we even debate if on group of people should not be allowed. It also boggles my mind why people dislike gays so much.
All drugs like cocaine and heroin are pretty much legal due to the fact that is what numbs you during surgery but the thing on gays.. people are scared and don't fully understand why a person is gay and believe it's by choice but it's not the same reason why I am so into women is the reason a guy likes a guy it's all genes and we can't do anything about it but it also kind of goes against adultery due to the fact that guys get bored of sex with the same person and have many partners.
your just as ignorant as a kkk member... you should just try and become more informed on these policies before you even open your mouth, just knowing that people like you are actually allowed to vote just bewilders me and now I understand why the majority of other countries believe we are selfish and self-centered people I really pity that you have that type of mindset just hope you can think outside the box and not sound so ignorant...
see there you go again, greed is the worst thing a person can have in their mind its immoral and I really pity you for thinking that way every country helps their citizens except for countries run by dictatorship so your best bet is moving to a country that is run by a dictator so you won't have to worry about paying social security and medicare...
@xxGizmo05xx Plus I said nothing of greed.I said selflessness was good,and it is. Tho I do believe greed is good. those are not the problem is altruism.
another way to put it easy on you simpleton a fascist is when a country is run under dictatorship and the only people who have power are the wealthy and the dictator kind of sounds like the republican party now doesn't it...
@xxGizmo05xx the dictionary definition of fascism is: “a governmental system with strong centralized power, permitting no opposition or criticism, controlling all affairs of the nation (industrial, commercial, etc.), emphasizing an aggressive nationalism . . .”
@xxGizmo05xx he dictionary definition of fascism is: “a governmental system with strong centralized power, permitting no opposition or criticism, controlling all affairs of the nation (industrial, commercial, etc.), emphasizing an aggressive nationalism . . .”
@xxGizmo05xx The dictionary definition of fascism is: “a governmental system with strong centralized power, permitting no opposition or criticism, controlling all affairs of the nation (industrial, commercial, etc.), emphasizing an aggressive nationalism . . .”
The main characteristic of socialism (and of communism) is public ownership of the means of production, and, therefore, the abolition of private property. The right to property is the right of use and disposal. Under fascism, men retain the semblance or pretense of private property, but the government holds total power over its use and disposal.
Fascism is a subset of European Socialism. Under the Fascist governments of Germany and Italy, those countries had universal health care, government ownership of industry, obsession with matters of race, and homosexuals in high places. Obama exhibits many of these traits and I have no doubt that he is a crypto Socialist at the very minimum and probably a Fascist at his evil heart.
@StefanZ17 Fascist regimes have always criminalized homosexuality. Why do you think the Nazis sent gay people to concentration camps? Yes, Nazi Germany had one (closeted) gay person, Ernst Rohm, in its ranks at the very beginning... and Hitler eventually had him shot.
The inability of this man to articulate WHY Obama is a fascist does NOT mean it isn't so read Obama's latest Executive Order which suspends Habeus Corpus. Before you grab your chips and watch TV comfortably thinking this doesn't apply to you, please look up the word YET. 12/22/10: The Washington Post reports that the Obama administration is preparing an executive order that would formalize indefinite detention without trial for some detainees at the US military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
the guy really provided some strong arguements for the point he was making. "He's a fascist because he is." Probably doesn't know what the word means, he was just regurgitating what was written on his stupid posters. Ignorant fool's probably just there because he wants to feel like he's part of something and get his 15 seconds.
It rings hollow that you were "mad at bush too" because we didn't hear from you guys until there was someone different in the white house. Practically overnight once the Obama administration begun the Tea baggers came out of the woodwork. If you can point to one, just one part of the Bush Doctrine you genuinely disagree with I will point to Tea party talking points that vehemently refute that.
@geekiesthuffman and if you point ot one part of the bush doctrin ill name a democrat who voted for it.
point being everyone has different opinions that dont need to fall perfectly into certain groups. two tea partiers can have differing opinions about details but agree on an over all frustration with whats going on. if you arent frustrated you arent informed
The teabaggers are so upset by this reporter, but I can't blame her for condescending. As a human being, I couldn't simply sit by and watch others drown in their own idiocy. This is what separates me from FOX viewers.
@TeaPartySympathizer But you actually could make the argument that Bush was fascist. He invaded Iraq for profit and to settle a score, and he gave government more power than any other president in recent memory. That's why the tea partiers should shut up, go home, and be glad that not all of America is as dumb and self-hating as they are.
Right, and the Tea Party is just as angry with the Bush administration, particularly the spending spree it started. You need to do your homework. My comment was made to point out that liberals use the same language that conservatives do to be just as dumb and self-hating, as you put it.
@TeaPartySympathizer Apparently youre pretty dim. The tea partiers are convenient dissenters. Most of them are republicans on the run, trying to pass off as good little populists so they can't be attacked for their pathetic hypocrisy. They hate Bush about as much as Bush hates Texas. Here's a tip: learn what the hell you're talking about before you condescend others.
I know you're trying to seem moderate, but your name is TeaPartySympathizer. Maybe you can fool Helen Keller with that one.
"Learn what I'm talking about, and I was condescending to who?" We haven't talked about anything because you haven't presented one intelligible debate. You've actually taken a similar front of attack like the guy in the video. You can generalize all you want from the tea partiers you see on Fox and MSNBC. I should actually work on being more moderate by keeping tea party out of my screen name, so don't give me too much credit. And btw, keep Helen K's good name out of this.
@TeaPartySympathizer I just gave you a debate. The truth is the tea party is just the most cowardly branch of the GOP. They insist on getting their voices heard, so they pretend that they hate the republicans, but only when you confront them on it. Hell, the stats say they are mostly republican. They are not true conservatives, they are merely populists, mad at Obama for making their lives better.
There's nothing wrong with dissent. But I hate hypocrisy. And the tea party IS hypocrisy.
Yes, Americans DO insist on having their voices heard. Thank God for that. Of course the Tea Party is conservative and the majority Repubs. We are fiscal conservatives but differ on social issues because members span the entire political spetrum (8% is Dem). We are more fiscally conservative than Repubs, which is why the Party has upset both Repubs and Dems in the States' primaries. Most Americans are mad at Obama, even the Progressives (for different reasons of course).
@ExtremeAvalanche granted all tea partiers have different opinions and you probably paint an accurate descirption of some, it is far from. tea partiers are fiscal conservatives therefore if they were paying attention they are frustrated with bush as well. we are living in a time when the (r) or (d) in front of someones name means very little. republican and conservative no longer go hand in hand.
I highly doubt that guy could define what Fascism is, let alone state any sort of coherent reason why he think Obama is one. This is just name calling, plain and simple. But sInce that what he enjoys, I will join in and say that I think this guy's mother is a donkey. Why? Because she's a donkey. Yep, his mother is a donkey and lives in a barn, and not a nice barn either. Donkey!
@bastardo2000 Well, the thing is he is a fascist. Why because of the things he dose. I would not call him a hardcore fascist,but a fascist he is. Just as Bush was.
@nero8289 He isn't fascist, actually. For example take a look at the healthcare bill (witch I actually agree, wasn't good) If anything, it was socialist. Fascism is on the exact opposite side of the spectrum.
The dictionary definition of fascism is: “a governmental system with strong centralized power, permitting no opposition or criticism, controlling all affairs of the nation (industrial, commercial, etc.), emphasizing an aggressive nationalism . . .”
deputy editor at Slate.com said in the magazine’s weekly podcast when one of his fellow editors
brought up Obama’s style. “That’s a very, like, let’s rally the nation. I don’t want to be rallied.” After his fellow Slate editors lightly gibed him for his statement, he continued the point: “My
brother who is an academic wrote this wonderful book about crowds, and crowd theory.
about the value of reason and understanding, and with a blind belief in intuition-based, irrational ‘revelations’ that contradict reason and understanding. We are dealing with an atmosphere
of hysterical-superstitious gullibility, in which the obscurantism of a struggle against objective
truths, against understanding and reason, is presented as the last word of modern science and of the
postmodern fascist comes from the present-day tendency to identify fascism almost totally with militarism and military aggression. Obama has called successfully for the bombing of northern Pakistan, although most of his followers seem to be unable to comprehend his role in this regard. Of course, fascist movements, once they were well established and consolidated, did tend overwhelmingly towards military aggression.
In order to evaluate the Obama phenomenon of 2008, we must realize that overt jingoistic militarism is not necessary for fascism to arise. Many assume that all fascists must necessarily be first and foremost aggressive warmongers, but
this is not necessarily the case. As one scholar has noted, “most fascist parties in stable, prosperous
western European countries with mature colonial empires preached a kind of ‘peace fascism,’
Most were indeed imperialist, but all types of political movements and systems have produced imperialist policies, while several fascist movements had little interest in or even rejected new imperial ambitions. Those which appeared in satisfied national or imperialist states were generally defensive rather than aggressive.
All, however, sought a new order in foreign affairs, a new relationship or set of alliances with respect to contemporary states and forces, and a new status for their nations in Europe and the world. Some were frankly oriented towards war,
while others merely prized military values but projected no plans for aggression abroad. The latter
sometimes sought a place of cultural hegemony or other nonmilitary forms of leadership.”
(Payne 11) If we insert soft power and subversion after cultural hegemony, we may be close to
understanding the postmodern fascist ideology of a possible Obama regime. Examples of “peace fascism” included the French Parti Populaire Français, originally a protofascist
formation which emerged from the defeat of the mass strike upsurge of June 1936, the
biggest strike wave in France before 1968. The PPF grew in reaction to the socialist-communist
BUF embraced corporatist solutions for the world economic crisis of the Great Depression: “The
BUF was one of the most thoroughly programmatic of all fascist movements, with elaborate
corporatist economic proposals. Its thrust was decidedly modernist, paying serious attention to
economic theory and concepts of ‘scientific production,’ while also espousing equal pay for women. The BUF also preached vitalism and the Shavian superman
[i.e., the superman concept of the playwright and essayist George Bernard Shaw], while stressing Britain’s civilizing and imperial mission in the world ‘to rescue great nations from decadence, and march together towards a higher and nobler order of civilization.’” (Payne 305) Strip away this imperial rhetoric and replace it with Obama’s Afrocentric multicultural relativism, and the similarities are striking.
The Reporter was offended. She was not reporting but editorializing. No different than Brian Williams. Are there any reporters or is this the best the universities can come up with?
Dude...what the hell I hate how these guys just say "Cause he's a fascist." And then that's it... I saw these guys on Lexington Avenue Hunter College. They came up to me and pretty much said the exact same thing that the guy in the video said. Stupid way to convince me he's a fascist.
Like all tea baggers, this guy doesn't know what fascism is. He's just saying it because "dur, fascism is bad."
The problem with calling the President a fascist isn't that it's offensive, it's that he isn't one. As TorontoChuck1978 said, the Bush/Cheney policies were fascist.
Hussein Obama is creating a gang mentality among his followers like Hitler did in Germany and Mao in China. He is dividing this country like never before.
These dumbasses can't even spell fascist much less know what the term means. They just throw words and phrases around..like marxist, nazi, maoist, communist because they hear it on Fox white trash TV. These teabaggers are, without a doubt, the stupidest people in America... Members in good standing of the lunatic fringe. I'm glad they are falling apart and disappearing. They are too damned dumb to sustain themselves.
Obama is a corporatist. He's taking care of corporations which are running the country. Finance industry, the military industrial complex, and now the health insurance companies. I see that as fascism or Bushism.
Obama is a corporatist. He's taking care of corporations which are running the country. Finance Industry, the military industrial complex, and now the health insurance industry. I see that as fascism or Bushism.
and do you realize that the basis for separating fascism from other political forms is that fascists are OPPOSED to liberalism and enlightenment ideas? and no one in their right mind could deny that obama is a liberal. but you know what? none of this shit even matters! you can all label him with whatever names you want but he is trying to help this country and is making the best of a terrible fucking situation. If you think he became president to destroy this country you're a complete sociopath
@pbmaster198 Bush was a fascist that leaned corporatist (Halliburton). Obama is a fascist that leans socialist ($13 trillion in deficit spending and Government takeover of healthcare). Only the separation of business from state eliminates fascism.
Why do ignoramuses defend Obama’s actions, by saying Bush did it first, when you hated Bush? So why now do you accept fascism from Obama? Because Obama’s oppression is liberal? THE OIL FLOWS UNDER OBAMA!
and there is still a free market! a few increased taxes for people making over 250K a year is not socialist! its a drastic temporary measure to pull us out of a fucking depression! and all of this seems familiar... oh wait FDR did the same shit! he expanded hoover's programs by increasing spending and reducing price flexibility!
Along with reading the Nobel Prize winning Austrian School, I also suggest Goldberg’s “Liberal Fascism,” which details fascism's mutual connections and entangled roots with socialsm and progressives.
Socialism and fascism are collectivist crimes. Individuals do not commit collective crimes, socialist do.
Why do all the world’s greatest mass murderers call themselves socialists?
Because Obama does not ascribe to individual, but collective responsibility; Because Obama has increased the size and power of the State through massive increases in Government spending and proposed taxation increases; Because Obama is dismantling the free market; Because Obama is undermining our Constitutionally guaranteed individual and private property rights; and because of Obama’s deliberate enslavement of certain industries (just as NAZI Germany did); Obama is a socialist leaning fascist.
Fascists are quasi-socialists (Statists) who enslave aspects of industry for the will of the State. Obama is currently nationalizing the automotive, healthcare and financial industries, so that this fascist may determine their out-put.
The National Socialist Party is the classic definition of a fascist State. Of course, the Nazis were seeking its progressive Aryan utopia just like Obama is seeking his progressive multicultural utopia.
In order to preserve democracy, the people must me protected from overreaching Government tyranny.
Obama along with his fellow socialists, fascists and leftwing progressives Hitler (2nd in election than popularly placed in power) , Mugabe, and Chavez were elected, so the ignorant masses can be fooled into giving up their freedoms to the new latest progressive cult of personality.
We can agree that all market interference is communism, socialism, mercantilism or fascism.
Therefore, we advocate for free markets to prevent Government caused corruption, greed and tyranny. Yes. Corrupt government bureaucrats and officials have Greed for unearned wealth, so they steal by violent force called taxation.
“Government is an association of men who do violence to the rest of us.” - Leo Tolstoy
WOW. none of you have any support to ur argument! JUST BECAUSE isn't a reason its a stupid response that should be reserved for shit minded four year olds. none of you can think for yourselves thats why you think he's a fascist; its convenient to go with the flow of the stupid ass american public's thinking. HE IS REGULATING CAPITALISM. that prevents big buisnesses from controlling the economy and destroying small buisness. How is he a fascist if the government structure is still unchanged?!
@pbmaster198 Regulating capitalism is fascism or socialism. Obama is attacking the American free market engine that has brought hundreds of millions out of poverty in the last decade. Obama is a fascist tyrant, who is destroying the global economy. He has spent us to $13 Trillion in debt and harmed humanity’s collective future. He has enslaved the American people with his deficit spending.
@islandmuffin Regulating capitalism is not fascism OR socialism. do you even know the difference?! destroying capitalism and having government owned enterprise is socialism not the loose regulation obama is putting on big buisnesses!! and you are making up fucking statistics!! hundreds of millions out of poverty?! HOW? and enslaving the american people? what?! your words are meaningless and the only one's stupid enough to support them are the conservatives. whatever just go watch fox news
Your not too fucking bright are you?? Socialism/communism and Fascism are oposites you fucking tool. When you say that they are the same because they share a common bond of a national healthcare system may I also remind you that Hitler was democratically elected as has been every president of your two party democracy (except of course King George II in 200). By your standards then democracy and fascism are the same. Again, your an idiot. Did you go to college by any chance???
Again, read a fucking book man. Socialism and Fascism are OPPOSITE. If fascism was the same as socialism and since conservatives claim that socialism is just communism in disguise then fascism and communism must be the same. If that is the case and you like to use Hitler as a (very improperly overused) citation than please explain to me why Hitler hated the commies so bad.
Again, just because you say it does not make it true when you have 150 year of political theory saying your an idiot.
"a person who is dictatorial or has extreme right-wing views."
OK ...right wing views? Are you sure you want to use the term fascist? Just maybe its you who are the fascist. I assume you are a concervative right-winger.
What are you incapable of understanding? Obama is a fascist. Obama is an evil tyrant who is destroying America. Praise God for this American who is speaking the truth. OBAMA IS A FASCIST. To PRETEND otherwise is dishonest.
@herbs814 holy shit you fucking morons. none of you know what the fuck fascism is!!!! can you see that this fucking fat moron had no support to his claim of obama's fascism. Fascism is a totalitarian government with a socialist economy. Obama is simply regulating capitalism so big corporations dont create the stratified feudal society of the 16th fucking century. but i bet none of you fuckin conservative shitheads even understand what i just said so do the world a favor and SHUT THE FUCK UP!
Fascism = State/Corporate hybrids, where the state colludes, interferes and controls the corporate output (like GM).
Socialism = all state control (Venezuela, like our Government healthcare takeover).
Mixed Economy = a mixture of socialism and capitalism. (Of course, the last 200 hundred years of history proves capitalism is superior to socialism. All economic research and data confirms free markets are always superior to socialist economies..)
Those people using the term "fascist" about Obama are a real curiosity. It was just a few months ago they were trying to use the term "socialist" about him, and the two could hardly be further apart, so it's clearly a sign of desperation.
Obama is a democrat, a democratic party is left-centered. Fascism is about as right-centered as you can get. I think the vast majority of these people don't even know what fascism, socialism of capitalism really is. Stupid dickholes.
wannabetyouarefat 4 weeks ago
OBAMA is a FACIST!!! just look at his relationship with GE and GM
starandanchor 4 months ago
Tea baggers want you to believe that the government is taking away our rights when the majority of them are extremists especially religion wise who want to take away most of our basic liberties and human rights. They want to take away your grandparents' health care because they consider it unconstitutional and do away with anything that keeps people off of welfare b/c it's 'unconstitutional' and meanwhile they also want to take away welfare b/c it's 'uncostitutional'.
Cerridwen247 4 months ago
Most Americans are idiots.... most don't even know what a fascist or fascism is... but I will tell you that America is a fascist country.... please just look it up idiots before you start arguing with me.... when I say look it up I mean use a dictionary... when I say use a dictionary you can also google the word fascist or fascism and then read the meaning of the fucking word..... god dam-it I hate how stupid my beautiful country has become....
george6900 5 months ago
@george6900 Yes it's in a sad State. That's why I married a Canadian and moved north :)
Cerridwen247 4 months ago
Haha what an idiot he doesn't even know what a fascist is does he.
Burlapbill 5 months ago
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Communist -->Bloom started“We know that the free market is nonsense. We know that the whole point is to game the system, to beat the market or at least find someone who will pay you a lot of money, ’cause they’re convinced that there is a free lunch. We know this is largely about power, that it’s an adults only no limit game. We kind of agree with Mao that political power comes largely from the barrel of a gun." YOU decide if the statement is a joke as he told Congress. I say LIE
vechorik 5 months ago
Cuse he is.. cuse he is... cuse he is...... he has no idea what a fascist even is ... has no clue what the definition of the word is... yet he will keep repeating it because Fox Lies told him to...... America is in deep doo doo when the stupidest people in the country are the ones backed by billionaires....which is the REAL definition of fascism by the way.
ReligionIsSophistry 5 months ago
That guy sounds like Fred Flinstone with QUITE severe brain damage.
KungfuCow5 7 months ago
Fascism is a phenomena of the right, where the pathetic Authoritarian Personality is most at home --- either trying to command people, or obeying, with absolute servility. (Servility is the primary characteristic of Republicans.)
beesleeper 8 months ago
That picture of Obama looks more like Charlie Chaplin than Hitler. Why do people embarass themselves in public like that?
prschuster 9 months ago
Just because he's too dumb to explain it doesn't mean he cant be right. I mean, we've been so pro capitalism ever since Obama took office. And its not like we're going out and starting wars for like... no reason or anything. And he certainly isn't blatantly ignoring the Constitution on these matters. So there's no way he could be a fascist.
ablethanegray 9 months ago
Obama is like Bush except he's hiding behind the United Nations. I don't remember him coming to the American Public and actually talking to us about Libya or attacking it.... he's a sneak and a fascist! It's not okay to lie and he's another example of a Nation Builder who hides behind the fascists who control out government!
Obama is a fascist!
rich8ch 10 months ago
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The dictionary definition of fascism is: “a governmental system with strong centralized power, permitting no opposition or criticism, controlling all affairs of the nation (industrial, commercial, etc.), emphasizing an aggressive nationalism . . .”
The American College Dictionary,
New York: Random House, 1957.
nero8289 11 months ago
bitch slap that reporter. you dont see them tearing apart the mesiahs supporters. show me the original birth abroad birth certificate
azthundercloud 11 months ago
@azthundercloud correction: Obama supporters get yelled at an blamed all of the time, ever heard of Fox News? Also, you probably could see the certificate anytime. They HAVE shown the certificate so redundantly. I find it almost annoying that people are still clinging to that.
TheMrinternet 11 months ago
HAHAHA THAT DUMBASS CAN'T EVEN SPELL FASCIST LET ALONE DEFINE THE TERM TEA PARTIERS ARE SUCH FUCKING MORONS...
xxGizmo05xx 11 months ago
@xxGizmo05xx Lets see you define fascist. I bet you can't.
nero8289 11 months ago
@nero8289
The definition of a fascist is Limbaugh, Palin, Ryan, Boehner, and the rest of the republican goon squad dummy.... seriously are you a kid... I bet you can't spell anything without the help of auto correct YOU FUCKING JOKE!!!! HAHAHA....
xxGizmo05xx 11 months ago
@xxGizmo05xx wrong
nero8289 11 months ago
@nero8289
HAHAHA were the hell did you get the definition Cuba was a country run by fascism the only people who have control are those with money.. and those with money are the only ones who have a say so... we don't have that problem because we have democracy so this guy calling obama a fascist definitely has no idea on how to use the word because we do have a say so on who we want to run this country so your definitely wrong on your part... your wrong....
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@xxGizmo05xx You need to take a look at philosophy,and history tell then take care.
nero8289 10 months ago
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nero8289 10 months ago
@xxGizmo05xx Ask your self why the people in power have money? Do they have power because they have money,or do they have money because they have power. Look at the full picture not just what you want to.
nero8289 10 months ago
@nero8289 Also ask your self how did they gain money. Did they steal it by taxing people,or did they earn it by creating,and providing a product for profit.
nero8289 10 months ago
@nero8289
What??? Fascism/Dictatorship is the reason they obtained the money the majority has to live under communism and has no say so on how much they make yet the minority that rules over them use those people as slaves and make a profit by making them work hard everyday. This is why the republicans want us not to have unions and work under their terms do you even understand the reasons why republicans want the true democratic candidates to look so bad??? think about it....
xxGizmo05xx 10 months ago
@nero8289
to make it more simple they have power due to the amount of money they contain.. who do you think hire these idiots on the republicans side.. I mean look at the whole social security dilemma these imbeciles want to get their grubby little hands on the trillions we have put into the fund and by getting into voters heads by using fear I bet they will have people begging for privatized retirement funds and as you can see privatizing has to be the dumbest thing to do look at healthcare..
xxGizmo05xx 10 months ago
@xxGizmo05xx Well wrong the private sector is a million times better then anything he government can do. There is nothing wrong with health care.Also if some one where to put money in a Ira you would have much more than you would ever get from social security.
nero8289 10 months ago
@nero8289
Tell that to the billions of people that have paid for health care over the years and get rejected if they have cancer or other terminal illnesses due to some loop holes in their contracts do you even research anything that you talk about or do you just believe the crap those ass holes tell you... do research don't talk out your ass....
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nero8289 10 months ago
@nero8289
Medicare and social security benefits have helped billions of people to this day and have never turned down any one who qualified so I trust my money is safe with the government compared to some clown on wall street who only worries about his own greed...
xxGizmo05xx 10 months ago
@xxGizmo05xx Believe that all you want,but you would still be wrong.
nero8289 10 months ago
@xxGizmo05xx Can you name one thing that the government dose better then than the private sector?
nero8289 10 months ago
@nero8289
Help the poor..... I can give you alot more things the government does better than the private sector... can you tell me something the private does better than the government..
xxGizmo05xx 10 months ago
@xxGizmo05xx package delivery. look at things like ups,and FedEx.
nero8289 10 months ago
@nero8289 then compare it to the post office.
nero8289 10 months ago
@nero8289
ok??? what about ups and fedex is better than the government are you stupid i'm talking about benefits not companies...
xxGizmo05xx 10 months ago
@xxGizmo05xx the only benefit I need is a pay check. I am not a child I do not need to be taken care of.
nero8289 10 months ago
@xxGizmo05xx Look we are never going to agree on these issues. Why don't we try to find some common ground? What is your opinion on things like the war on drugs,religion,Gay marriage?
nero8289 10 months ago
@nero8289
well thats because we were raised in different environments... To me religion is a necessity all drugs should be abolished except for marijuana since it has been proven to help people medically and gays should be able to marry god created us all with love and no where in the bible does it say god hates gays but he does not approve prejudice against anyone...
xxGizmo05xx 10 months ago
@xxGizmo05xx OK, I think all drugs should be legal. Tho I believe they are all bad for you. Well besides marijuana. I am an atheist,but I believe that there are a lot of good morals in the bible. I agree 100% with you on gays. It pisses me of that we even debate if on group of people should not be allowed. It also boggles my mind why people dislike gays so much.
nero8289 10 months ago
@nero8289
All drugs like cocaine and heroin are pretty much legal due to the fact that is what numbs you during surgery but the thing on gays.. people are scared and don't fully understand why a person is gay and believe it's by choice but it's not the same reason why I am so into women is the reason a guy likes a guy it's all genes and we can't do anything about it but it also kind of goes against adultery due to the fact that guys get bored of sex with the same person and have many partners.
xxGizmo05xx 10 months ago
@xxGizmo05xx Why should even be forced to pay in to social security,or medicare? Why should the government be allowed to steal?
nero8289 10 months ago
@nero8289
your just as ignorant as a kkk member... you should just try and become more informed on these policies before you even open your mouth, just knowing that people like you are actually allowed to vote just bewilders me and now I understand why the majority of other countries believe we are selfish and self-centered people I really pity that you have that type of mindset just hope you can think outside the box and not sound so ignorant...
xxGizmo05xx 10 months ago
@xxGizmo05xx You need to go and study your epidemiology.
nero8289 10 months ago
@xxGizmo05xx You need to go and study your epidemiology.
nero8289 10 months ago
@nero8289
HAHAHA do you even know what epidemiology even is???
xxGizmo05xx 10 months ago
@xxGizmo05xx I meant epistemology
nero8289 10 months ago
@xxGizmo05xx What is wrong with being selfish? Selfishness is a good thing. The problem is altruism.
nero8289 10 months ago
@nero8289
see there you go again, greed is the worst thing a person can have in their mind its immoral and I really pity you for thinking that way every country helps their citizens except for countries run by dictatorship so your best bet is moving to a country that is run by a dictator so you won't have to worry about paying social security and medicare...
xxGizmo05xx 10 months ago
@xxGizmo05xx Plus I said nothing of greed.I said selflessness was good,and it is. Tho I do believe greed is good. those are not the problem is altruism.
nero8289 10 months ago
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@nero8289
@xxGizmo05xx What is wrong with being selfish? Selfishness is a good thing. The problem is altruism.
nero8289 3 days ago
bro you said selfishness not selflessness.. I hate greedy people that is why our country is going downhill due to greedy banks and politicians....
xxGizmo05xx 10 months ago
@nero8289
another way to put it easy on you simpleton a fascist is when a country is run under dictatorship and the only people who have power are the wealthy and the dictator kind of sounds like the republican party now doesn't it...
xxGizmo05xx 11 months ago
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@xxGizmo05xx the dictionary definition of fascism is: “a governmental system with strong centralized power, permitting no opposition or criticism, controlling all affairs of the nation (industrial, commercial, etc.), emphasizing an aggressive nationalism . . .”
The American College Dictionary,
New York: Random House, 1957.
nero8289 11 months ago
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@xxGizmo05xx he dictionary definition of fascism is: “a governmental system with strong centralized power, permitting no opposition or criticism, controlling all affairs of the nation (industrial, commercial, etc.), emphasizing an aggressive nationalism . . .”
The American College Dictionary,
New York: Random House, 1957.
nero8289 11 months ago
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@xxGizmo05xx The dictionary definition of fascism is: “a governmental system with strong centralized power, permitting no opposition or criticism, controlling all affairs of the nation (industrial, commercial, etc.), emphasizing an aggressive nationalism . . .”
The American College Dictionary,
New York: Random House, 1957.
nero8289 11 months ago
The main characteristic of socialism (and of communism) is public ownership of the means of production, and, therefore, the abolition of private property. The right to property is the right of use and disposal. Under fascism, men retain the semblance or pretense of private property, but the government holds total power over its use and disposal.
nero8289 11 months ago
Fascism is a subset of European Socialism. Under the Fascist governments of Germany and Italy, those countries had universal health care, government ownership of industry, obsession with matters of race, and homosexuals in high places. Obama exhibits many of these traits and I have no doubt that he is a crypto Socialist at the very minimum and probably a Fascist at his evil heart.
StefanZ17 11 months ago
@StefanZ17 Fascist regimes have always criminalized homosexuality. Why do you think the Nazis sent gay people to concentration camps? Yes, Nazi Germany had one (closeted) gay person, Ernst Rohm, in its ranks at the very beginning... and Hitler eventually had him shot.
streetswell 11 months ago
@fullthrottlealways
Ahahahahaha! You seem about as coherent as "Because he is! He just is!!" man, but what you really mean to say is this:
"He's a n**ga; I don't like n**gas; no dirty n**ga can ever be my president."
Admit it. That's what you really want to say. Just admit it and stop making up bullshit excuses that make no sense anyway.
arthurneddysmith 1 year ago
The inability of this man to articulate WHY Obama is a fascist does NOT mean it isn't so read Obama's latest Executive Order which suspends Habeus Corpus. Before you grab your chips and watch TV comfortably thinking this doesn't apply to you, please look up the word YET. 12/22/10: The Washington Post reports that the Obama administration is preparing an executive order that would formalize indefinite detention without trial for some detainees at the US military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
fullthrottlealways 1 year ago
the guy really provided some strong arguements for the point he was making. "He's a fascist because he is." Probably doesn't know what the word means, he was just regurgitating what was written on his stupid posters. Ignorant fool's probably just there because he wants to feel like he's part of something and get his 15 seconds.
YouKnowThatYouDont 1 year ago
This guy doesn't even know what Fascism is, that is why his only answer was "because he is, he's a fascist!"
jonas189 1 year ago
@TeaPartySympathizer
It rings hollow that you were "mad at bush too" because we didn't hear from you guys until there was someone different in the white house. Practically overnight once the Obama administration begun the Tea baggers came out of the woodwork. If you can point to one, just one part of the Bush Doctrine you genuinely disagree with I will point to Tea party talking points that vehemently refute that.
geekiesthuffman 1 year ago
@geekiesthuffman and if you point ot one part of the bush doctrin ill name a democrat who voted for it.
point being everyone has different opinions that dont need to fall perfectly into certain groups. two tea partiers can have differing opinions about details but agree on an over all frustration with whats going on. if you arent frustrated you arent informed
rigatony019 1 year ago
lol obama-hitler
Convenant4life 1 year ago
The teabaggers are so upset by this reporter, but I can't blame her for condescending. As a human being, I couldn't simply sit by and watch others drown in their own idiocy. This is what separates me from FOX viewers.
ExtremeAvalanche 1 year ago
Big deal Madame reporter. Keith Olbermann called George W. a facsist on the air during his presidency.
TeaPartySympathizer 1 year ago
@TeaPartySympathizer But you actually could make the argument that Bush was fascist. He invaded Iraq for profit and to settle a score, and he gave government more power than any other president in recent memory. That's why the tea partiers should shut up, go home, and be glad that not all of America is as dumb and self-hating as they are.
ExtremeAvalanche 1 year ago
@ExtremeAvalanche
Right, and the Tea Party is just as angry with the Bush administration, particularly the spending spree it started. You need to do your homework. My comment was made to point out that liberals use the same language that conservatives do to be just as dumb and self-hating, as you put it.
TeaPartySympathizer 1 year ago
@TeaPartySympathizer Apparently youre pretty dim. The tea partiers are convenient dissenters. Most of them are republicans on the run, trying to pass off as good little populists so they can't be attacked for their pathetic hypocrisy. They hate Bush about as much as Bush hates Texas. Here's a tip: learn what the hell you're talking about before you condescend others.
I know you're trying to seem moderate, but your name is TeaPartySympathizer. Maybe you can fool Helen Keller with that one.
ExtremeAvalanche 1 year ago
@ExtremeAvalanche
"Learn what I'm talking about, and I was condescending to who?" We haven't talked about anything because you haven't presented one intelligible debate. You've actually taken a similar front of attack like the guy in the video. You can generalize all you want from the tea partiers you see on Fox and MSNBC. I should actually work on being more moderate by keeping tea party out of my screen name, so don't give me too much credit. And btw, keep Helen K's good name out of this.
TeaPartySympathizer 1 year ago
@TeaPartySympathizer I just gave you a debate. The truth is the tea party is just the most cowardly branch of the GOP. They insist on getting their voices heard, so they pretend that they hate the republicans, but only when you confront them on it. Hell, the stats say they are mostly republican. They are not true conservatives, they are merely populists, mad at Obama for making their lives better.
There's nothing wrong with dissent. But I hate hypocrisy. And the tea party IS hypocrisy.
ExtremeAvalanche 1 year ago
@ExtremeAvalanche
Yes, Americans DO insist on having their voices heard. Thank God for that. Of course the Tea Party is conservative and the majority Repubs. We are fiscal conservatives but differ on social issues because members span the entire political spetrum (8% is Dem). We are more fiscally conservative than Repubs, which is why the Party has upset both Repubs and Dems in the States' primaries. Most Americans are mad at Obama, even the Progressives (for different reasons of course).
TeaPartySympathizer 1 year ago
@ExtremeAvalanche granted all tea partiers have different opinions and you probably paint an accurate descirption of some, it is far from. tea partiers are fiscal conservatives therefore if they were paying attention they are frustrated with bush as well. we are living in a time when the (r) or (d) in front of someones name means very little. republican and conservative no longer go hand in hand.
rigatony019 1 year ago
the scary part of this is that that moron can vote.
LordKaisen 1 year ago
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"I think he's a Fascist!"
"Why?"
"Because he is!"
GuyFawkes501 1 year ago
"I think he's a Fascist!"
"Why?"
"Because he is!"
GuyFawkes501 1 year ago
this guy has no facts and seems a little on the dumb side.
mannhorn34 1 year ago
I highly doubt that guy could define what Fascism is, let alone state any sort of coherent reason why he think Obama is one. This is just name calling, plain and simple. But sInce that what he enjoys, I will join in and say that I think this guy's mother is a donkey. Why? Because she's a donkey. Yep, his mother is a donkey and lives in a barn, and not a nice barn either. Donkey!
bastardo2000 1 year ago 11
@bastardo2000 Well, the thing is he is a fascist. Why because of the things he dose. I would not call him a hardcore fascist,but a fascist he is. Just as Bush was.
nero8289 11 months ago
@nero8289 He isn't fascist, actually. For example take a look at the healthcare bill (witch I actually agree, wasn't good) If anything, it was socialist. Fascism is on the exact opposite side of the spectrum.
TheMrinternet 11 months ago
The dictionary definition of fascism is: “a governmental system with strong centralized power, permitting no opposition or criticism, controlling all affairs of the nation (industrial, commercial, etc.), emphasizing an aggressive nationalism . . .”
The American College Dictionary,
New York: Random House, 1957.
nero8289 11 months ago
@bastardo2000;
go look up Fascist.
then email the definition to that "reporter."
then get me some donkey milk!
MrNicespaces 11 months ago
@MrNicespaces is donkey milk good?
nero8289 11 months ago
@nero8289;
Donkey milk and Karaoke.
Try it.
MrNicespaces 11 months ago
@bastardo2000
How can Obama be a fascist when he has cultivated a
pose of being the true anti-war candidate – apart from such trifles as his demand that Pakistanis be
slaughtered with reckless abandon in their own country without notification to their government.
Many ordinary people will tend towards the view that he is just another
American pragmatist like the rest of us, but with views that are somewhat extreme and radical on a
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
range of subjects – making Obama someone to vote against perhaps, but not a fascist.
In order to
clarify this issue, we need to go back and look at what fascism was. To make matters simpler, we
will concentrate on the Italian fascists, partly since it was they who invented fascism, and partly
since we can conduct a calmer analysis if we do not make Hitler and the Nazis the prime examples
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
– although we will mention them from time to time to illustrate what we are saying about fascism in
general.
Obama’s signature mass rallies are perhaps the factor that first alerted some right-wing
journalists to the nature of the Obama pseudo-movement. For many, this awareness began to
emerge in February 2008, when the Obama postmodern coup was already well underway despite
temporary reverses. David Brooks, for example, wrote:
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
“The afflicted had already been through the
phases of Obama-mania — fainting at rallies, weeping over their touch screens while watching
Obama videos, spending hours making folk crafts featuring Michelle Obama’s face. These patients
had experienced intense surges of hope-amine, the brain chemical that fuels euphoric sensations of
historic change and personal salvation. But they found that as the weeks went on, they needed more
and purer hope-injections just to preserve the rush.
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
They wound up craving more hope than even the
Hope Pope could provide, and they began experiencing brooding moments of suboptimal
hopefulness. Anxious posts began to appear on the Yes We Can! Facebook pages. A sense of ennui
began to creep through the nation’s Ian McEwan-centered book clubs. Up until now The Chosen
One’s speeches had seemed to them less like stretches of words and more like soul sensations that transcended time and space.
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
But those in the grips of Obama Comedown Syndrome began to
wonder if His stuff actually made sense. For example, His Hopeness tells rallies that we are the
change we have been waiting for, but if we are the change we have been waiting for then why have
we been waiting since we’ve been here all along?” (David Brooks, New York Times, February 19,
2008)
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
The other aspect of the Obama lemming legions which has attracted the attention of some
commentators is a specious rage with which they turn on those who do not share their fanatical
devotion to the Perfect Master. Professor Paul Krugman is surely one of the more intelligent of
these critics when he writes:
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
“Why, then, is there so much venom out there? I won’t try for fake
evenhandedness here: most of the venom I see is coming from supporters of Mr. Obama, who want
their hero or nobody. I’m not the first to point out that the Obama campaign seems dangerously
close to becoming a cult of personality. We’ve already had that from the Bush administration —
remember Operation Flight Suit? We really don’t want to go there again.” (Paul Krugman, New
York Times, February 11, 2008)
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
Obama’s general demeanor and rhetorical style has been compared to that of Mussolini, the first
fascist to seize power in a major country. David Plotz of Slate.com was shocked by the mob rule
overtones of the Obama agitation: ‘The deputy editor of a major online magazine spent time in a
weekly podcast explaining how the style of Senator Barack Obama shares much in common with
the speech of fascist dictators like Benito Mussolini.
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
“That’s slightly fascistic,” David Plotz, the
deputy editor at Slate.com said in the magazine’s weekly podcast when one of his fellow editors
brought up Obama’s style. “That’s a very, like, let’s rally the nation. I don’t want to be rallied.” After his fellow Slate editors lightly gibed him for his statement, he continued the point: “My
brother who is an academic wrote this wonderful book about crowds, and crowd theory.
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
And one of
the sort of lessons that he’s always imparted to me is just that crowds are terrifying. Crowds are
horrifying for the most part because they have a will of their own, and they act independently of
rationality. And I think that Obama relies hugely on that. That’s not to say, I don’t, I still support
him, but I don’t like that fascistic, I like him not for the fascistic elements of his candidacy, which I
think are profound.”’ (Michael Roston,
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
“Slate editor calls Obama speech style ‘fascistic,’“
(Rawstory, February 4, 2008) An untenable position, we note in passing, since fascism, once
identified, must surely be opposed.
**DIALECTIC OF HOPE AND DESPAIR IN FASCISM FROM MUSSOLINI TO OBAMA**
One of the most reliable indications of Obama’s fascist ideology can be found in his obsessive
preoccupation with the theme of “hope.”
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
One of the staples of fascist demagogy from Mussolini to
Hitler, and especially in the latter, is a constant attempt to mobilize the latent and conscious despair
of the target audiences into a form of frenzied activism or flight forward in the service of the Fascist
party and the fascist cause.
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
One of the favorite themes of National Socialist propaganda was the
idea that Hitler represented the last hope of the despairing masses after the torments of World War
I, the great hyperinflation of 1923, and the great deflationary depression starting in 1929. This
theme was used in some of the NSDAP’s most effective posters.
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
In Obama’s case, his ability to
appeal to the despair of his followers is significantly enhanced by his own existentialist background,
as indicated by his interest during his college years in the existentialist-terrorist works of Frantz
Fanon. As has already been mentioned, a thoroughgoing existentialist is in grave danger of sliding
into fascism under the impact of a social crisis including military defeat and acute economic depression,
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
as was seen in the case of the leading European existentialist, Martin Heidegger, who
became an active Nazi propagandist. Every day, existentialists and other radical irrationalist
subjectivists who have been supporting Obama are sliding towards fascism like passengers
careening down the steeply sloping decks of the Titanic in its last throes.
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
Once again it is Georg Lukacs who, pre-eminently among the historians of European
philosophy, has pointed to the intimate interface between radical existentialism and fascism.
Lukacs writes: ‘no matter how distorted the presentation may be because of the solipsism of the
phenomenological method, we are dealing with a social fact: the internal situation of the bourgeois
individual
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
(especially the intellectual) in the crumbling world of monopoly capital, faced by the
perspective of annihilation. Heidegger’s despair thus has a dual character: on the one side the
implacable exposure of the inner nothingness of the individual in the crisis period of imperialism;
on the other hand — because the social causes of this nothingness are fetishized away as timeless
factors having nothing to do with the social situation —
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
the resulting feelings can very easily kick over into a despairing reactionary activity. It is surely no coincidence that Hitler’s agitation
continuously appealed to despair. Of course, this mainly addressed the economic-social situation of
the working masses. In the case of the intelligentsia, this mood of nothingness and despair, whose
subjective validity constitutes the starting point for Heidegger’s philosophy, and which he elevates
to the conceptual level,
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
transfigures into philosophy and canonizes as ‘authentic,” represents the
most fertile soil for the effectiveness of Hitler’s mass agitation.’ (Lukacs 441)
Existentialism, reinforced by the postmodern consensus in the Anglo-American academic world
frequented by Obama, represents a perfect culture medium for the postmodern fascist mentality.
The general nature of this dynamic was already clear many decades ago: “Agnostic irrationalism…
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
has as its final result a passionate rejection of objective truth of the same type that we see in Hitler
with other motives and with other justifications. In the interface between existentialist irrationalism
and the fascist world outlook we are not dealing with individual epistemological findings…but
rather with a general intellectual atmosphere of radical doubt about the possibility of objective
knowledge,
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
about the value of reason and understanding, and with a blind belief in intuition-based, irrational ‘revelations’ that contradict reason and understanding. We are dealing with an atmosphere
of hysterical-superstitious gullibility, in which the obscurantism of a struggle against objective
truths, against understanding and reason, is presented as the last word of modern science and of the
most ‘progressive’ epistemology.”
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
(Lukacs 633) These considerations should help make clear why
he Obama personally finds the postmodern fascist outlook to be congenial and coherent with his
general attitude towards life. As has already been shown, Michelle Obama represents an even more
militant version of this same fundamental worldview.
A DISTANT MIRROR: THE PEACE FASCISM OF SIR OSWALD MOSELEY
One large difficulty in evaluating Obama as a
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
postmodern fascist comes from the present-day tendency to identify fascism almost totally with militarism and military aggression. Obama has called successfully for the bombing of northern Pakistan, although most of his followers seem to be unable to comprehend his role in this regard. Of course, fascist movements, once they were well established and consolidated, did tend overwhelmingly towards military aggression.
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
But this does
not tell us anything about what these movements looked like in their earliest phases, before they had
taken power and before they were in a position to start military adventures. There is also the
problem of fascist movements in countries like Great Britain and France, who had been among the
winners of World War I. These fascist movements did not take power, but might have done so under slightly different circumstances.
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
In order to evaluate the Obama phenomenon of 2008, we must realize that overt jingoistic militarism is not necessary for fascism to arise. Many assume that all fascists must necessarily be first and foremost aggressive warmongers, but
this is not necessarily the case. As one scholar has noted, “most fascist parties in stable, prosperous
western European countries with mature colonial empires preached a kind of ‘peace fascism,’
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
unlike their counterparts in central and eastern Europe.”217 Stanley G. Payne, A History of Fascism,
1914-1945 [Madison, Wisconsin: The University of Wisconsin Press, 1995], 298 Stanley G. Payne
elaborates on the question of fascism and militaristic aggression as follows: “Fascism is usually said
to have been expansionist and imperialist by definition, but this is not clear from a reading of
diverse fascist programs.
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
Most were indeed imperialist, but all types of political movements and systems have produced imperialist policies, while several fascist movements had little interest in or even rejected new imperial ambitions. Those which appeared in satisfied national or imperialist states were generally defensive rather than aggressive.
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
All, however, sought a new order in foreign affairs, a new relationship or set of alliances with respect to contemporary states and forces, and a new status for their nations in Europe and the world. Some were frankly oriented towards war,
while others merely prized military values but projected no plans for aggression abroad. The latter
sometimes sought a place of cultural hegemony or other nonmilitary forms of leadership.”
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
(Payne 11) If we insert soft power and subversion after cultural hegemony, we may be close to
understanding the postmodern fascist ideology of a possible Obama regime. Examples of “peace fascism” included the French Parti Populaire Français, originally a protofascist
formation which emerged from the defeat of the mass strike upsurge of June 1936, the
biggest strike wave in France before 1968. The PPF grew in reaction to the socialist-communist
popular front regime of Léon Blum,
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
which soon disappointed its own left-wing followers. This PPF
received “considerable financial backing from big business interests, which sought to encourage a
popular nationalist and anti-communist force. The chef or leader was Jacques Doriot, a former
communist. “The new state envisaged by the PPF was to be ‘popular’ and authoritarian but
decentralized, honoring the family, the community, and the region, with the latter being strongly
emphasized.”
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
The PPF had its own approach to reforming broken souls: “PPF propagandists did
encourage an activist and vitalist philosophy and the creation of an homme nouveau (new man), and
the movement drew the support of some accomplished fascistic intellectuals like Pierre Drieu
LaRochelle.” (Payne 298) The PPF shows that it is possible to be fascist and anti-war at the same
time: “…though the PPF preached vitalism and activism, together with the military virtues,
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
it was – like all the French nationalist groups from the fascists of Bucard to the most conservative – a ‘peace
party’ that discouraged talk of war and sought no particular territorial aggrandizement for France.”
(Payne 298). To see what fascism looked like in the English speaking world during the 1930s, we have the
case of Sir Oswald Mosley and his British Union of Fascists, which was formed in 1932 and was
banned by the government when the Second World War began in 1939.
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
British fascism was not explicitly pro-war:
“Like other fascist movements in satisfied imperial powers, the BUF never
preached war and expansion, but peace and prosperity. Mosley was obsessed with overcoming
social, economic, and cultural decadence, and he believed that only the disciplined nationalism and
new cultural dynamism of a fascism on the Italian model could achieve it.” Also like Obama, the
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
BUF embraced corporatist solutions for the world economic crisis of the Great Depression: “The
BUF was one of the most thoroughly programmatic of all fascist movements, with elaborate
corporatist economic proposals. Its thrust was decidedly modernist, paying serious attention to
economic theory and concepts of ‘scientific production,’ while also espousing equal pay for women. The BUF also preached vitalism and the Shavian superman
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
[i.e., the superman concept of the playwright and essayist George Bernard Shaw], while stressing Britain’s civilizing and imperial mission in the world ‘to rescue great nations from decadence, and march together towards a higher and nobler order of civilization.’” (Payne 305) Strip away this imperial rhetoric and replace it with Obama’s Afrocentric multicultural relativism, and the similarities are striking.
SadegoGG 9 months ago
@bastardo2000
Stanley G. Payne, A History of Fascism, 1914-1945 (Madison, Wisconsin: The University of Wisconsin
Press, 1995), 298.
SadegoGG 9 months ago
The Reporter was offended. She was not reporting but editorializing. No different than Brian Williams. Are there any reporters or is this the best the universities can come up with?
mueygringo 1 year ago
"In what way can you say that [Obama s a fascist]?"
"Because the real pirates are in the White House, the Senate, and Congress."
That's some good argumentation there...
DiabolicBadger 1 year ago
Did ANY OF YOU defending Obama ever call Bush 43 such things? Fascist? Marxist? Communist? Or worse? Liberal hypocrites at their best.
jmn120176 1 year ago
Dude...what the hell I hate how these guys just say "Cause he's a fascist." And then that's it... I saw these guys on Lexington Avenue Hunter College. They came up to me and pretty much said the exact same thing that the guy in the video said. Stupid way to convince me he's a fascist.
biohazard22791 1 year ago
Like all tea baggers, this guy doesn't know what fascism is. He's just saying it because "dur, fascism is bad."
The problem with calling the President a fascist isn't that it's offensive, it's that he isn't one. As TorontoChuck1978 said, the Bush/Cheney policies were fascist.
fedos 1 year ago
Hussein Obama is creating a gang mentality among his followers like Hitler did in Germany and Mao in China. He is dividing this country like never before.
JimmyFormerMarine 1 year ago
Why?
Because he is...
ROTFLMAO!!!!
katobud 1 year ago
"fascist will come in the form of anifascism" You want to hurt people and be a fascist? Call THEM a fascist!
grendelee 1 year ago
"Ah'se da head niggah round heh." Barry Soetoro, aka Barrack Obama. And, why does obongo stink? Because he's BO!
mbabist01 1 year ago
These dumbasses can't even spell fascist much less know what the term means. They just throw words and phrases around..like marxist, nazi, maoist, communist because they hear it on Fox white trash TV. These teabaggers are, without a doubt, the stupidest people in America... Members in good standing of the lunatic fringe. I'm glad they are falling apart and disappearing. They are too damned dumb to sustain themselves.
172677 1 year ago
@172677 You should talk, fruit boy.
mbabist01 1 year ago
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Obama is a corporatist. He's taking care of corporations which are running the country. Finance industry, the military industrial complex, and now the health insurance companies. I see that as fascism or Bushism.
GovernmentSham912 1 year ago
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Obama is a corporatist. He's taking care of corporations which are running the country. Finance Industry, the military industrial complex, and now the health insurance industry. I see that as fascism or Bushism.
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GovernmentSham912 1 year ago
and do you realize that the basis for separating fascism from other political forms is that fascists are OPPOSED to liberalism and enlightenment ideas? and no one in their right mind could deny that obama is a liberal. but you know what? none of this shit even matters! you can all label him with whatever names you want but he is trying to help this country and is making the best of a terrible fucking situation. If you think he became president to destroy this country you're a complete sociopath
pbmaster198 1 year ago
@pbmaster198 Bush was a fascist that leaned corporatist (Halliburton). Obama is a fascist that leans socialist ($13 trillion in deficit spending and Government takeover of healthcare). Only the separation of business from state eliminates fascism.
Why do ignoramuses defend Obama’s actions, by saying Bush did it first, when you hated Bush? So why now do you accept fascism from Obama? Because Obama’s oppression is liberal? THE OIL FLOWS UNDER OBAMA!
islandmuffin 1 year ago
and there is still a free market! a few increased taxes for people making over 250K a year is not socialist! its a drastic temporary measure to pull us out of a fucking depression! and all of this seems familiar... oh wait FDR did the same shit! he expanded hoover's programs by increasing spending and reducing price flexibility!
pbmaster198 1 year ago
Along with reading the Nobel Prize winning Austrian School, I also suggest Goldberg’s “Liberal Fascism,” which details fascism's mutual connections and entangled roots with socialsm and progressives.
Socialism and fascism are collectivist crimes. Individuals do not commit collective crimes, socialist do.
Why do all the world’s greatest mass murderers call themselves socialists?
islandmuffin 1 year ago
Because Obama does not ascribe to individual, but collective responsibility; Because Obama has increased the size and power of the State through massive increases in Government spending and proposed taxation increases; Because Obama is dismantling the free market; Because Obama is undermining our Constitutionally guaranteed individual and private property rights; and because of Obama’s deliberate enslavement of certain industries (just as NAZI Germany did); Obama is a socialist leaning fascist.
islandmuffin 1 year ago
Fascists are quasi-socialists (Statists) who enslave aspects of industry for the will of the State. Obama is currently nationalizing the automotive, healthcare and financial industries, so that this fascist may determine their out-put.
The National Socialist Party is the classic definition of a fascist State. Of course, the Nazis were seeking its progressive Aryan utopia just like Obama is seeking his progressive multicultural utopia.
islandmuffin 1 year ago
In order to preserve democracy, the people must me protected from overreaching Government tyranny.
Obama along with his fellow socialists, fascists and leftwing progressives Hitler (2nd in election than popularly placed in power) , Mugabe, and Chavez were elected, so the ignorant masses can be fooled into giving up their freedoms to the new latest progressive cult of personality.
islandmuffin 1 year ago
We can agree that all market interference is communism, socialism, mercantilism or fascism.
Therefore, we advocate for free markets to prevent Government caused corruption, greed and tyranny. Yes. Corrupt government bureaucrats and officials have Greed for unearned wealth, so they steal by violent force called taxation.
“Government is an association of men who do violence to the rest of us.” - Leo Tolstoy
islandmuffin 1 year ago
WOW. none of you have any support to ur argument! JUST BECAUSE isn't a reason its a stupid response that should be reserved for shit minded four year olds. none of you can think for yourselves thats why you think he's a fascist; its convenient to go with the flow of the stupid ass american public's thinking. HE IS REGULATING CAPITALISM. that prevents big buisnesses from controlling the economy and destroying small buisness. How is he a fascist if the government structure is still unchanged?!
pbmaster198 1 year ago
@pbmaster198 Regulating capitalism is fascism or socialism. Obama is attacking the American free market engine that has brought hundreds of millions out of poverty in the last decade. Obama is a fascist tyrant, who is destroying the global economy. He has spent us to $13 Trillion in debt and harmed humanity’s collective future. He has enslaved the American people with his deficit spending.
islandmuffin 1 year ago
@islandmuffin Regulating capitalism is not fascism OR socialism. do you even know the difference?! destroying capitalism and having government owned enterprise is socialism not the loose regulation obama is putting on big buisnesses!! and you are making up fucking statistics!! hundreds of millions out of poverty?! HOW? and enslaving the american people? what?! your words are meaningless and the only one's stupid enough to support them are the conservatives. whatever just go watch fox news
pbmaster198 1 year ago
@islandmuffin,
Your not too fucking bright are you?? Socialism/communism and Fascism are oposites you fucking tool. When you say that they are the same because they share a common bond of a national healthcare system may I also remind you that Hitler was democratically elected as has been every president of your two party democracy (except of course King George II in 200). By your standards then democracy and fascism are the same. Again, your an idiot. Did you go to college by any chance???
ToJ01978 1 year ago
@ToJ01978 Bush was a fascist that leaned corporatist (Halliburton).
Obama is a fascist that leans socialist ($13 trillion in deficit spending and Government takeover of healthcare).
Only the separation of business from state eliminates fascism.
islandmuffin 1 year ago
Again, read a fucking book man. Socialism and Fascism are OPPOSITE. If fascism was the same as socialism and since conservatives claim that socialism is just communism in disguise then fascism and communism must be the same. If that is the case and you like to use Hitler as a (very improperly overused) citation than please explain to me why Hitler hated the commies so bad.
Again, just because you say it does not make it true when you have 150 year of political theory saying your an idiot.
ToJ01978 1 year ago
@ToJ01978 Why do ignoramuses defend Obama’s actions, by saying Bush did it first, when you hated Bush?
So why now do you accept fascism from Obama?
islandmuffin 1 year ago
CNN reporter feels being offended makes her right. Fascism doesn’t stop being fascism just because Obama was elected. Obama is a fascist.
islandmuffin 1 year ago
Fascism doesn’t stop being fascism just because Obama was elected.
Obama is a fascist.
islandmuffin 1 year ago
This moron doesn't even know what a fascist is.
anthonym267 1 year ago
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gingowitch 1 year ago
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Obama is a wannabe fascist dictator. Remember that when you go to vote in November.
JimmyFormerMarine 1 year ago
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Obama is a wannabe fascist dictator. Remember that when you go to vote in November.
JimmyFormerMarine 1 year ago
I was the Obama supporter at this event, it was fun arguing!!
Using the Reagan rule, are we better off than we were when Obama took office?? I say yes! YES WE CAN, ha ha!!
bcolovas 1 year ago
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I'd rather kill a Conservative Neocon than the Taliban anyday. You motherfuckers wanna fight....LET'S GET IT ON!!!
SarahPalinLies 1 year ago
Obama IS a fascist. Just like the grass is green and the sky is blue, Obama is a fascist. And anyone who tries to pretend otherwise is lying.
herbs814 1 year ago
@herbs814 Definiton of fascism -
"a person who is dictatorial or has extreme right-wing views."
OK ...right wing views? Are you sure you want to use the term fascist? Just maybe its you who are the fascist. I assume you are a concervative right-winger.
jimitl5 1 year ago
@jimitl5
Wrong. The definition of fascism is the use of the power of the government to force tyranny upon the citizenry. Therefore, ALL FASCISM IS LEFT-WING.
There is NO such thing as "right-wing" fascism. ALL FASCISM is left-wing.
All tyranny comes from the left.
All freedom comes from the right.
All evil comes from the left.
All good comes from the right.
herbs814 1 year ago
are you stupid or just retarded or being sarcastic?
beachnic 1 year ago
@beachnic
What are you incapable of understanding? Obama is a fascist. Obama is an evil tyrant who is destroying America. Praise God for this American who is speaking the truth. OBAMA IS A FASCIST. To PRETEND otherwise is dishonest.
herbs814 1 year ago
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Obama is a wannabe fascist dictator. Remember that when you go to vote in November.
JimmyFormerMarine 1 year ago
@herbs814 holy shit you fucking morons. none of you know what the fuck fascism is!!!! can you see that this fucking fat moron had no support to his claim of obama's fascism. Fascism is a totalitarian government with a socialist economy. Obama is simply regulating capitalism so big corporations dont create the stratified feudal society of the 16th fucking century. but i bet none of you fuckin conservative shitheads even understand what i just said so do the world a favor and SHUT THE FUCK UP!
pbmaster198 1 year ago
Fascism = State/Corporate hybrids, where the state colludes, interferes and controls the corporate output (like GM).
Socialism = all state control (Venezuela, like our Government healthcare takeover).
Mixed Economy = a mixture of socialism and capitalism. (Of course, the last 200 hundred years of history proves capitalism is superior to socialism. All economic research and data confirms free markets are always superior to socialist economies..)
islandmuffin 1 year ago